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(Some Guy's Wife)   When did Peanuts turn from a comic strip about cute kids doing cute things to a story about insecurities and pathos? February 1, 1954   (schulzmuseum.org) divider line 136
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2013-05-02 08:25:29 PM  
I liked that.
 
2013-05-02 09:08:22 PM  
Yeah, the problem came sometime in the late 70s when it turned back.

Those gloomy little kids with their existential angst and their casual cruelty to one another were awesome.
 
2013-05-02 09:51:27 PM  
Wow, the Jan 19 1954 strip has to be the first time that Peanuts made me laugh out loud
 
2013-05-02 11:53:52 PM  

Lor M. Ipsum: Wow, the Jan 19 1954 strip has to be the first time that Peanuts made me laugh out loud


You sound old.
 
2013-05-03 12:05:12 AM  
if Charlie Brown existed in the real world he would definitely shoot up a school.
 
2013-05-03 12:29:41 AM  

calbert: if Charlie Brown existed in the real world he would definitely shoot up a school.


In the past, he just drew a mediocre comic strip.
 
2013-05-03 12:32:08 AM  
Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.
 
2013-05-03 12:53:46 AM  
Don't forget the lesbian sex.
 
2013-05-03 01:10:18 AM  

Ghastly: Don't forget the lesbian sex.


Snoopy and Woodstock are boys.
 
2013-05-03 01:12:23 AM  

Rik01: I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip


Me neither, or the shows (even "Great Pumpkin). It's a bunch of kids acting too old and wise for their age, and I don't like that crap when it comes from an age-appropriate source.

Even some XKCD strips get too preachy for me; I stick to SMBC and Dilbert for the comfort of a quick laugh.
 
2013-05-03 01:19:21 AM  

doglover: Ghastly: Don't forget the lesbian sex.

Snoopy and Woodstock are boys.


straightlesbian.com

.


Honestly, I think it's reading too much into the characters.
 
2013-05-03 01:22:19 AM  

Ghastly: Don't forget the lesbian sex.



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2013-05-03 01:25:37 AM  

Rik01: Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.


Note:

Just like Jesus in his lifetime. NTTAWWT.

Gig103: Even some XKCD strips get too preachy for me; I stick to SMBC and Dilbert for the comfort of a quick laugh.


Concerning XKCD, do you have an example of "too preachy". I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just not sure I've 'experienced' it myself, so please, really, share if you can.

Also, are you familiar with Perry Bible Fellowship (not what it sounds like, and possibly NSFW)? Might be one of the most balanced comics ever, if you don't mind all the gallows humor.

Also, Red Meat.
 
2013-05-03 01:29:09 AM  

Lor M. Ipsum: Wow, the Jan 19 1954 strip has to be the first time that Peanuts made me laugh out loud


Okay, I'm confused. I don't see anything about a "Jan 19 1954" strip.

CSB

My mother taught me to read at a young age, three to four. My father had a decent sized collection of paperback sized book collections of comic strips. There were many different strips, The Wizard of ID, B.C., Hagar the Horrible, and Peanuts just to name a few. I read every single one of those books that he had, often more than once. I credit them with starting me on my way to having a passion for reading.
 
2013-05-03 01:45:54 AM  
Many of the 50s Peanuts strips are pretty funny:

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2013-05-03 02:22:48 AM  

Sid_6.7: Perry Bible Fellowship


best comic EVAR!
 
2013-05-03 04:03:19 AM  

Rik01: Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)


A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs.  That's why they sympathize with Charlie.
 
2013-05-03 05:10:48 AM  

Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.




You have to understand one thing: without Schultz Peanuts, there would be no Calvin and Hobbes. Before him, comics were filled with vaudeville humor, adventure strips or soap opera comics. He made the comics about the characters, and he drew the pain from his own life. You would have no Calvin, unless Snoopy came before him.

And he was highly experimental in his form- he was trying to simplify the strip, until he old tell a rich full story in one panel.
 
2013-05-03 05:12:07 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Rik01: Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs.  That's why they sympathize with Charlie.


Wasn't Linus Charlie Brown's closest friend?
 
2013-05-03 05:14:06 AM  

Ghastly: Wasn't Linus Charlie Brown's closest friend?


Yes
 
2013-05-03 05:31:27 AM  

Rik01: His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.


I'd like to see how brave you would get if you were the only gay kid at hydrocephalus camp, and you were being stalked by a manic depressive b*tch with a libido complex?
 
2013-05-03 05:32:53 AM  
Linus was Charlie Brown's friend.


Facts before opinions are a good thing.


God I hate SLAYER. "Cum On Feel The Noize" really sucked.
 
2013-05-03 05:37:22 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs. That's why they sympathize with Charlie.


Yeah, they're passive aggressive dicks.  That's why I sympathize with Peppermint Patty.
 
2013-05-03 05:38:19 AM  

log_jammin: Ghastly: Wasn't Linus Charlie Brown's closest friend?

Yes




Actually, Schroeder is his oldest friend. Linus would be his best friend. In Trek terms, Charlie would be Kirk, Linus would be Spock. And Schroeder would be McCoy.

What people don't remember is that Shermy, Patty, Violet, and Snoopy where the original cast of first/second graders. None of them liked Charlie. Snoopy wasn't even specifically Charlie Browns dog. Schroeder was introduced as a toddler who was gifted at playing a toy piano. Lucy was introduced as a kindergardener. In a few months she was Charlie Brows age and Linus was introduced as a baby.Soon enough, Linus was a year younger.

Eventually Schroeder became a love interest for Lucy. In the strangest twist, both Marcie and Peppermint Patty started competing over Charlie Brown. Who was oblivious to the whole thing.
 
2013-05-03 05:38:22 AM  

craigdamage: Linus was Charlie Brown's friend.


Facts before opinions are a good thing.


God I hate SLAYER. "Cum On Feel The Noize" really sucked.


Ha!
 
Qel
2013-05-03 05:40:33 AM  

craigdamage: Linus was Charlie Brown's friend.


Facts before opinions are a good thing.


God I hate SLAYER. "Cum On Feel The Noize" really sucked.


Dumas!  Everybody knows Van Halen did that song!
 
2013-05-03 05:40:35 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: In Trek terms, Charlie would be Kirk, Linus would be Spock. And Schroeder would be McCoy.


every time I start to get cranky or annoyed with this place, someone posts something that reminds me why I'm still here.
 
2013-05-03 05:46:35 AM  

Rik01: I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.


Helga: I'm tired of you going away from months on your business trips.  Why can you work closer to home.
Hagar: ... ... ... They'd throw me in jail if I worked closer to home.
 
2013-05-03 05:47:52 AM  

thamike: BarkingUnicorn: A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs. That's why they sympathize with Charlie.

Yeah, they're passive aggressive dicks.  That's why I sympathize with Peppermint Patty.


l

Peppermint Patty was based on his second Wife-who was a big tomboy when she was a girl. She had things that made her feel like an outcast as well.

And I don't think Charlie Brown as a Nobel Martyr. I think people can relate to failure and feeling like the world is overwhelming. And yet despite his failings, Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick that football...
 
2013-05-03 05:47:57 AM  
Yeah, my memory is clouded. Schroeder was Brown's "2nd best friend after Linus" according to wiki.

I honestly can't remember that many panels with the two of them together.

sorry.
 
2013-05-03 05:49:16 AM  
Good grief, what an asshole.
 
2013-05-03 05:49:50 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.

You have to understand one thing: without Schultz Peanuts, there would be no Calvin and Hobbes. Before him, comics were filled with vaudeville humor, adventure strips or soap opera comics. He made the comics about the characters, and he drew the pain from his own life. You would have no Calvin, unless Snoopy came before him.

And he was highly experimental in his form- he was trying to simplify the strip, until he old tell a rich full story in one panel.


While that is all true and important, it doesn't mean Rik01 (or I) have to like Peanuts. What Rik01 said is perfectly true and valid. Schultz was brilliant, and he broke all kinds of ground, but I found Peanuts frustrating, perhaps because I identified too much with Charlie Brown.

For the reocrd, the fist couple years of Peanuts - before it became completely misery-centric - I enjoy enough to own the compilations.
 
2013-05-03 05:50:23 AM  

log_jammin: Darth_Lukecash: In Trek terms, Charlie would be Kirk, Linus would be Spock. And Schroeder would be McCoy.

every time I start to get cranky or annoyed with this place, someone posts something that reminds me why I'm still here.




It helps if you stay out of the political tabs....
 
2013-05-03 05:52:04 AM  

Sid_6.7: Rik01: Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Note:

Just like Jesus in his lifetime. NTTAWWT.

Gig103: Even some XKCD strips get too preachy for me; I stick to SMBC and Dilbert for the comfort of a quick laugh.

Concerning XKCD, do you have an example of "too preachy". I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just not sure I've 'experienced' it myself, so please, really, share if you can.

Also, are you familiar with Perry Bible Fellowship (not what it sounds like, and possibly NSFW)? Might be one of the most balanced comics ever, if you don't mind all the gallows humor.

Also, Red Meat.


An xkcd strip that's too preachy? Too easy: http://xkcd.com/603/
 
2013-05-03 05:52:29 AM  
HAHAHA WOW

I fell asleep in my chair for a moment.

I had a dream that there was a benevolent Farker in here paying off everyone's soul crushing, wrist tying down debt.
 
2013-05-03 05:53:45 AM  
I disagree with the author of TFA though - I think the quoted strip from a few days prior (where Charlie is laughing at the end) is in a way equally filled with youthful despair.
 
2013-05-03 05:54:38 AM  

craigdamage: Yeah, my memory is clouded. Schroeder was Brown's "2nd best friend after Linus" according to wiki.

I honestly can't remember that many panels with the two of them together.

sorry.




Schroeder was In the early days, especially with the baseball. He was the catcher to Charlie's pitcher.
 
2013-05-03 05:54:53 AM  

libranoelrose: HAHAHA WOW

I fell asleep in my chair for a moment.

I had a dream that there was a benevolent Farker in here paying off everyone's soul crushing, wrist tying down debt.


Dude...

Don't pop my bubble.
 
2013-05-03 05:58:53 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: It helps if you stay out of the political tabs....


Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.
 
2013-05-03 06:08:25 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: thamike: BarkingUnicorn: A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs. That's why they sympathize with Charlie.

Yeah, they're passive aggressive dicks.  That's why I sympathize with Peppermint Patty.

l

Peppermint Patty was based on his second Wife-who was a big tomboy when she was a girl. She had things that made her feel like an outcast as well.

And I don't think Charlie Brown as a Nobel Martyr. I think people can relate to failure and feeling like the world is overwhelming. And yet despite his failings, Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick that football...


That explains the size of his head. Not enough dynamite.
 
2013-05-03 06:11:15 AM  
I did't realize Schultz wrote about internal server errors in 1954. He was really ahead of his time.
 
2013-05-03 06:13:18 AM  

doglover: libranoelrose: HAHAHA WOW

I fell asleep in my chair for a moment.

I had a dream that there was a benevolent Farker in here paying off everyone's soul crushing, wrist tying down debt.

Dude...

Don't pop my bubble.


Sorry, dude.

I feel much better now.

I'm able to realize how crushing the debt is now.
 
2013-05-03 06:28:08 AM  

Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.


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Weapon Brown: The best gritty reboot I have ever read.
 
2013-05-03 06:35:30 AM  

calbert: if Charlie Brown existed in the real world he would definitely ...


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...plead guilty to stalking.
 
2013-05-03 06:41:57 AM  
Fix the link.
 
2013-05-03 06:44:06 AM  
tetsoushima:

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Weapon Brown: The best gritty reboot I have ever read.


Wait a minute. Did he shoot her, go around get blood, paint the "OUT" and then get back out front for a pose? It makes no sense!

(I smirked.)
 
2013-05-03 06:51:08 AM  
Snoopy looks like he was a better character back in the 50s.
 
2013-05-03 06:51:57 AM  
Charlie Brown without Snoopy. The original John Arbuckle without Garfield.
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2013-05-03 06:58:37 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: An xkcd strip that's too preachy? Too easy: http://xkcd.com/603/


xkcd does have some funny strips, but quite a sizeable amount of them feel like comic strips for pedants; it's what i imagine Grammar Nazis humor themselves with.
 
2013-05-03 06:59:51 AM  
I disagree. Charlie Brown was hated from day one...

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/Never forget
 
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