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(NBC New York)   Plane crashes into the Hudson River. This is not a repeat from 2009   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line 25
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2013-05-03 12:18:38 AM
"Police say divers and other rescue crews were at the scene but were delayed in entering the water because they were waiting for the fuel to dissipate."

Well, that sucks.
 
2013-05-03 01:52:11 AM
It wasn't clear how many people were aboard the pontoon plane when it crashed about 4:30 p.m. Thursday near Germantown in Columbia County.

Ouch

/probably didn't do that right
//sad
 
2013-05-03 04:56:53 AM
And you all thought the sequester wouldn't have dire consequences.
 
2013-05-03 05:12:46 AM
The Hudson river must be stopped before it's too late
 
2013-05-03 05:15:15 AM
Tried to pull a half sully but did not stick the landing.
 
2013-05-03 05:16:23 AM
Too bad that PONTOON plane didn't have something to float on....
 
2013-05-03 05:21:04 AM
Holy balls, was that all the way back in 2009?
 
2013-05-03 05:54:41 AM

CarnySaur: And you all thought the sequester wouldn't have dire consequences.


Did you pull a muscle with that stretch?
 
2013-05-03 05:55:26 AM
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RIP HUDSON BROTHERS
 
2013-05-03 06:06:26 AM
Thread jack:
Why do local news stations want to use my location on an iPhone? Seriously, assume I'm from Middle of Nowhere, NY just like your crappy TV station
/thread jack
 
2013-05-03 06:11:12 AM
I understand the feeling to want to fly. Being aloft a few thousand feet up. Moving in three dimensions instead of just the normal two on the ground. The feeling of freedom as you physically separate yourself from the workaday world. Flying is freedom, and that has a strong draw on just about everybody.

But unless you live in the wilderness or desert island where there aren't any airports or runways, there isn't much need for a pontoon plane. They are unwieldy and have no purpose in any modern city. They give a false sense of security in that even without a runway you could, perhaps, land in the water. However, as this incident shows us, that sense of security is illusory. People just shouldn't be allowed to own these contraptions.
 
2013-05-03 06:11:49 AM

mike_d85: Thread jack:
Why do local news stations want to use my location on an iPhone? Seriously, assume I'm from Middle of Nowhere, NY just like your crappy TV station
/thread jack


Targeted advertisements don't work right if they don't know where you are.
 
2013-05-03 06:59:08 AM
When a pontoon plane lands on water, how can you call it a crash?

/my aircraft has no landing gear. Every time it lands, it's a crash
 
2013-05-03 07:00:02 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I understand the feeling to want to fly. Being aloft a few thousand feet up. Moving in three dimensions instead of just the normal two on the ground. The feeling of freedom as you physically separate yourself from the workaday world. Flying is freedom, and that has a strong draw on just about everybody.

But unless you live in the wilderness or desert island where there aren't any airports or runways, there isn't much need for a pontoon plane. They are unwieldy and have no purpose in any modern city. They give a false sense of security in that even without a runway you could, perhaps, land in the water. However, as this incident shows us, that sense of security is illusory. People just shouldn't be allowed to own these contraptions.


This happened in Albany.

In the north country, wilderness hunting and fishing trips are a huge business.

BTW, most folks don't realize just how fast you can travel in a small plane. Straight line, no traffic, ect. And you haven't been fishing until you've been flown into some remote lake in the wilderness, where the only way in is by floatplane.
 
2013-05-03 07:11:29 AM

Basily Gourt: AverageAmericanGuy: I understand the feeling to want to fly. Being aloft a few thousand feet up. Moving in three dimensions instead of just the normal two on the ground. The feeling of freedom as you physically separate yourself from the workaday world. Flying is freedom, and that has a strong draw on just about everybody.

But unless you live in the wilderness or desert island where there aren't any airports or runways, there isn't much need for a pontoon plane. They are unwieldy and have no purpose in any modern city. They give a false sense of security in that even without a runway you could, perhaps, land in the water. However, as this incident shows us, that sense of security is illusory. People just shouldn't be allowed to own these contraptions.

This happened in Albany.

In the north country, wilderness hunting and fishing trips are a huge business.

BTW, most folks don't realize just how fast you can travel in a small plane. Straight line, no traffic, ect. And you haven't been fishing until you've been flown into some remote lake in the wilderness, where the only way in is by floatplane.


Yeah Alaska style! You drop down in a beaver into what looks like mangroves and go to some of the best salmon streams on the planet. Just hope the bears aren't too pissy.
 
2013-05-03 07:27:54 AM
It's supposed to be able to land on rough water, which clearly isn't the case here, but still so incredibly sad.
 
2013-05-03 07:43:09 AM

Basily Gourt: This happened in Albany.


About half an hour south of Albany. I live near the crash site. Lots of people in Columbia County have some serious money but don't give a shiat about showing it off, so they spend their weekends here instead of the Hamptons - they think nothing of flying their small plane up from Westchester or whatever for the weekend or even just breakfast.

Lots of Columbia County looks like a Merchant-Ivory film, only with Americans - and that makes sense since Merchant and Ivory lived in Claverack for ages.

On the other hand, the place where the plane went down is about the nastiest spot on the river not named Newburgh. There's abandoned cement factories, all kinds of weird shiat on the river between Saugerties and Catskill.
 
2013-05-03 08:01:17 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I understand the feeling to want to fly. Being aloft a few thousand feet up. Moving in three dimensions instead of just the normal two on the ground. The feeling of freedom as you physically separate yourself from the workaday world. Flying is freedom, and that has a strong draw on just about everybody.

But unless you live in the wilderness or desert island where there aren't any airports or runways, there isn't much need for a pontoon plane. They are unwieldy and have no purpose in any modern city. They give a false sense of security in that even without a runway you could, perhaps, land in the water. However, as this incident shows us, that sense of security is illusory. People just shouldn't be allowed to own these contraptions.


I got it.   8/10.
 
2013-05-03 08:08:17 AM

TanSau: Too bad that PONTOON plane didn't have something to float on....


Depends on what type of floatplane it was...if it was an amphibian, and his landing gear (for dry land, ie, his wheels) was down when he hit the water...if they jammed, say...that's often fatal.

The wheels catch the water and flip you...you'd probably be better off trying to fit between some trees and losing your wings at the roots.
 
2013-05-03 08:12:54 AM

PunGent: TanSau: Too bad that PONTOON plane didn't have something to float on....

Depends on what type of floatplane it was...if it was an amphibian, and his landing gear (for dry land, ie, his wheels) was down when he hit the water...if they jammed, say...that's often fatal.

The wheels catch the water and flip you...you'd probably be better off trying to fit between some trees and losing your wings at the roots.


It's usually not a case of jamming, it's usually a case of forgetting. And sadly, very often fatal. Most civvies aren't trained in upside down emergency underwater egress the way navy guys are.
 
2013-05-03 08:13:41 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I understand the feeling to want to fly. Being aloft a few thousand feet up. Moving in three dimensions instead of just the normal two on the ground. The feeling of freedom as you physically separate yourself from the workaday world. Flying is freedom, and that has a strong draw on just about everybody.

But unless you live in the wilderness or desert island where there aren't any airports or runways, there isn't much need for a pontoon plane. They are unwieldy and have no purpose in any modern city. They give a false sense of security in that even without a runway you could, perhaps, land in the water. However, as this incident shows us, that sense of security is illusory. People just shouldn't be allowed to own these contraptions.


0/10. I almost bit until the last line.
 
2013-05-03 08:18:15 AM
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I always had trouble with that stage, until I started using the Pulse Jet so I could do a boost right before the engine blows out, and then I could get enough airspeed to glide above the entire river and not have to worry about crashing into the damn walls
 
2013-05-03 08:48:46 AM

fatbear: PunGent: TanSau: Too bad that PONTOON plane didn't have something to float on....

Depends on what type of floatplane it was...if it was an amphibian, and his landing gear (for dry land, ie, his wheels) was down when he hit the water...if they jammed, say...that's often fatal.

The wheels catch the water and flip you...you'd probably be better off trying to fit between some trees and losing your wings at the roots.

It's usually not a case of jamming, it's usually a case of forgetting. And sadly, very often fatal. Most civvies aren't trained in upside down emergency underwater egress the way navy guys are.


Yep...I just hate to immediately jump to "pilot error".   If he had an engine-out situation, and was trying to deal with that, AND glide safely to the river...I could easily see forgetting he had wheels down, like if he'd just taken off from dry land...
 
2013-05-03 01:13:35 PM
I live about 20 minutes north of the crash site. Local news is now reporting that it was NOT a float plane, but instead a WWII reconnaissance plane. They have found the debris field using side scan sonar.
 
2013-05-03 01:31:36 PM
Ironic:  I just started reading Sullenberger's  Higheset Duty late last night.
 
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