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2013-05-02 07:45:53 PM
Damn kids need to toughen up their hands.
 
2013-05-02 07:49:19 PM
Who the hell makes content unavailable for mobile devices?
 
2013-05-02 07:53:39 PM
On one hand it is inappropriate to cause injuries to students, even blisters.

On the other hand, it's just freakin' blisters and some dirt. "*sniffle* they were all black and hurt" yeah no shiat. I've seen girls younger than you tear their knee open and bloody falling on gravel, get up and ignore it, and keep playing whatever they were playing.
 
2013-05-02 07:55:18 PM

Bontesla: Who the hell makes content unavailable for mobile devices?


Works on my iPad
 
2013-05-02 08:06:47 PM
Can't stop staring at pink suit....

Do you buy a suit like that at a pimp store and you ask them to alter a pimp suit to a regular single breast with a wide lapel, or do you go to a suit store and ask for a regular suit in pimp colours?
 
2013-05-02 08:15:58 PM
Meh, I've seen worse. Like the day I discovered internet porn.

/That's gnarly
 
2013-05-02 08:18:09 PM

doglover: On one hand it is inappropriate to cause injuries to students, even blisters.

On the other hand, it's just freakin' blisters and some dirt. "*sniffle* they were all black and hurt" yeah no shiat. I've seen girls younger than you tear their knee open and bloody falling on gravel, get up and ignore it, and keep playing whatever they were playing.


Seriously, after after the bruises, cuts, smashed fingers, etc from football practice these kids would have been down for the count. Running Indians, suicides, or green bays till you puke or pass out. God even two-a-days...ugh...I hated those...Track practice was a cake walk compared to football.
 
2013-05-02 08:21:09 PM
Why don't you try not missing practice, girls?
 
2013-05-02 08:26:11 PM
Fark you, internet tough guys.  This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.
 
2013-05-02 08:30:16 PM

Tellingthem: doglover: On one hand it is inappropriate to cause injuries to students, even blisters.

On the other hand, it's just freakin' blisters and some dirt. "*sniffle* they were all black and hurt" yeah no shiat. I've seen girls younger than you tear their knee open and bloody falling on gravel, get up and ignore it, and keep playing whatever they were playing.

Seriously, after after the bruises, cuts, smashed fingers, etc from football practice these kids would have been down for the count. Running Indians, suicides, or green bays till you puke or pass out. God even two-a-days...ugh...I hated those...Track practice was a cake walk compared to football.


Yeah, but it was bruises and cuts purposely inflicted by Sadists as punishment. Not normal accidental injuries. Big diffrence there.
 
2013-05-02 08:36:57 PM
Why weren't they wearing their track gloves and helmets?
 
2013-05-02 08:38:56 PM

optikeye: Tellingthem: doglover: On one hand it is inappropriate to cause injuries to students, even blisters.

On the other hand, it's just freakin' blisters and some dirt. "*sniffle* they were all black and hurt" yeah no shiat. I've seen girls younger than you tear their knee open and bloody falling on gravel, get up and ignore it, and keep playing whatever they were playing.

Seriously, after after the bruises, cuts, smashed fingers, etc from football practice these kids would have been down for the count. Running Indians, suicides, or green bays till you puke or pass out. God even two-a-days...ugh...I hated those...Track practice was a cake walk compared to football.

Yeah, but it was bruises and cuts purposely inflicted by Sadists as punishment. Not normal accidental injuries. Big diffrence there.


Not really,  we did all sorts of nasty stuff as punishment. We were always pushed to the edge. Was it to much in this case? Sounds like it. But some blisters are not some major story. Make the coaches apologize and if they ever cross a line again fire them. But this is not that big of a deal.
 
2013-05-02 09:54:14 PM
Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.
 
2013-05-02 10:09:46 PM
This seems like a good time to teach students about Milgram's experiment and how you don't always have to obey authority.
 
2013-05-02 10:39:32 PM
When Tammy Rulfs picked up her injured daughter after the next track practice, which included those backward bear crawls, she couldn't believe it.


"Honestly I would like to see the coaches do exactly what they had to do - and lose their jobs," said Rulfs.


I'd be okay with that.  I'm thinkin' they just wanted to stare at the girls' asses up in the air as they did "backwards bear crawls".
 
2013-05-03 12:09:44 AM
There's a lot of masturbation going on in that high school.
 
2013-05-03 12:10:15 AM

Tellingthem: But this is not that big of a deal.


period. this. if the snowflakes are to precious, keep them on the prom decoration committee. keep them off a sports team.
 
2013-05-03 12:11:20 AM
"It's a hard workout and they didn't intend for us to get hurt," said Sycophant.

But they did let you get hurt, didn't they, toady?

Shepard missed practice for a prom meeting. He didn't have the blisters some students did.

Oh.  Only the whiny girls got hurt, then?  Fair enough.
 
2013-05-03 12:12:56 AM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Tellingthem: But this is not that big of a deal.

period. this. if the snowflakes are to precious, keep them on the prom decoration committee. keep them off a sports team.


Dude, it's not like they just got their widdy feewings huwt.

They got their widdle hands cowered in bwisters!
 
2013-05-03 12:14:24 AM
I think the workout is a great idea and a good punishment (though I'm not sure it should apply to someone with a Dr's appt).  Next time they should just supply work gloves for those who do them.
 
2013-05-03 12:15:20 AM
FTFA: Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment.

"These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.


(*sigh*) If these kids really believe this nonsense, then they got what they deserved.
 
2013-05-03 12:15:38 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: This seems like a good time to teach students about Milgram's experiment and how you don't always have to obey authority.


Go on....
 
2013-05-03 12:15:44 AM
So... What the hell is a "bear crawl"?
 
2013-05-03 12:15:59 AM

scottydoesntknow: Meh, I've seen worse. Like the day I discovered internet porn.



That must have been one helluva day!  Glad you recovered.  Now drop and give me 20.
 
2013-05-03 12:16:15 AM
Meh, kids today don't know tough practices.

/know a few coaches
//it's hard to get kids to gut it out now
///just a different time/culture
 
2013-05-03 12:17:12 AM
It's hard to remember for me, but I seem to remember doing something similar although I think it was on a gym floor not a track which would have a much rougher surface. I am pretty sure we had a different name for them too.
 
2013-05-03 12:17:16 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: This seems like a good time to teach students about Milgram's experiment and how you don't always have to obey authority.


What good is punishment if you don't have to follow authority?
 
2013-05-03 12:17:20 AM
control f at the article, in search for the term 'police'.....

No hits.

/what the f*ck is wrong with people that they don't call the police for the abuse/assault/being in a position of power over individuals and f*cking them up in the process.
 
2013-05-03 12:17:32 AM
I see the requisite "back in my day" and "snowflake" comments have been made. It's simultaneously hilarious and sad how quickly the internet wants to find a way to justify hurting kids.

Bad judgment aside, the bear crawls are just plain counterproductive. Moving that way is only going to risk back strain and other injuries that would potentially WEAKEN a person's track performance. If they'd just stuck with laps, no one would have cared.
 
2013-05-03 12:17:52 AM

180IQ: So... What the hell is a "bear crawl"?


That's what I wondered, then I decided their sadistic Asian coach actually meant to send them to Dunkin Donuts.
 
2013-05-03 12:18:34 AM

sheep snorter: control f at the article, in search for the term 'police'.....

No hits.

/what the f*ck is wrong with people that they don't call the police for the abuse/assault/being in a position of power over individuals and f*cking them up in the process.


Police are authoritarians, too.  They're agree that this was a "good punishment."
 
2013-05-03 12:18:54 AM
farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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2013-05-03 12:19:37 AM
Isn't that normal for a lot of sports?

Wait for the callus to form and you're fine.
 
2013-05-03 12:19:53 AM
Shouldn't their hands be all calloused from playing vidya games?
 
2013-05-03 12:20:34 AM
most children know the word 'no'. there is a time and place for everything.
 
2013-05-03 12:21:11 AM

eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.
 
2013-05-03 12:21:33 AM
Back when I was that age, we used to throw rocks at each other, for FUN.
 
2013-05-03 12:22:33 AM
Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.
 
2013-05-03 12:23:25 AM
Whaa whaaa whaaa whaa somebody call them a whambulance.
 
2013-05-03 12:23:42 AM
Leather-palmed work gloves are great at preventing blisters. Damned uncomfy in the summer though.
 
2013-05-03 12:24:48 AM

basemetal: Meh, kids today don't know tough practices.

/know a few coaches
//it's hard to get kids to gut it out now
///just a different time/culture


eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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That sentiment really doesn't apply to this case.  If you read the article, the kids were defending the coaches.  It was the parents and administrators that freaked out.
 
pla
2013-05-03 12:24:57 AM
FTA : As the school district notifies all parents about the incident, one of the students and her mother left for a doctor's appointment for a thorough examination.

Ca-CHING!
 
2013-05-03 12:25:38 AM
If that's abuse then I know several people in my military training that are going to jail.  Bear crawls on a track is nothing compared to bear crawls though Fire Ant infested terrain.
 
2013-05-03 12:25:38 AM
Meh, crybabies, I'm an old man and I had a martial arts class tonight where they made us do bear crawls.

/ For thirty feet on soft mats
 
2013-05-03 12:26:08 AM

Wayne 985: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.


Don't you get it?  Athletics are absolutely the highest priority in America.  If we can't run several times in an oval, hit a ball with a bat, or throw a ball through a hoop, how on Earth are we ever going to beat China to Mars and get those iPads made right here in America?
 
2013-05-03 12:26:25 AM
one of my best buddies is a middle school football coach gym teacher in a southern state, and heads a team that wins lots of middle school football contests (look, I ain't a sports chick, I'm trying to explain a thing, here). He is one of the sweetest, sappiest, most good-hearted fellows I know. When it is late summer, and the temps are busting records and we're in a drought, yet it's more humid than should be allowed by the laws of all that is good and holy...he turns into gotdamed Hartman. he refuses all arguments that 13 year olds can't handle laps in 115 degree heat. I know they have water, etc etc...I can't help it. I think he's mean.
 
2013-05-03 12:27:14 AM
Coaches are hard on you in order to make you want to try harder. That's their job. If it happens to involve some minor non-scarring skin lesions then that's what it will have. If you don't like it then don't send your precious snowflake into high school sports (and especially not beyond that level) or they may scrape a knee. Sports are not academics. Not everyone can be good at them no matter how hard they try nor how dedicated they may be.
 
2013-05-03 12:27:48 AM

JungleBoogie: Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.


They did that IN REVERSE.  Meaning, their hands were the pushing force, not their feet.

I still say the coaches did this to look at their asses.
 
2013-05-03 12:27:54 AM
also i suspect these parents didnt participate in sports or were the ones that were "picked" on in school.....either way this is why i dont have kids and fark the pansies that have these farking snowflakes....

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2013-05-03 12:28:04 AM

eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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Yeah, you never ran track, did you?

Two laps around the track is 800 yards, not 50 yards.  Even at your "2 a days" you were doing 1/8 the distance they did.
 
2013-05-03 12:28:11 AM

sendtodave: What_Would_Jimi_Do: Tellingthem: But this is not that big of a deal.

period. this. if the snowflakes are to precious, keep them on the prom decoration committee. keep them off a sports team.

Dude, it's not like they just got their widdy feewings huwt.

They got their widdle hands cowered in bwisters!


If they were taking proper care of the football team their hands would be tougher.
 
2013-05-03 12:29:08 AM
Bear crawl, and reverse bear crawl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11CWWeeTxbY
 
2013-05-03 12:29:51 AM
I'm glad the internet has apparently decided that it's totally cool to hurt kids (in the past, and present). Just like bad parents hit their kids, bad coaches resort to this nonsense. Good coaches don't need to.
 
2013-05-03 12:29:52 AM

Wayne 985: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.


You're just a sissy.

Back in my day the coach would regularly hold "penis inspection days". He would make us strip naked in the sport shack and do pull-ups in front of him after greasing ourselves and the rod up. If any of us falls he would start shooting bbs at our junk and beat us with a pool noodle until everyone has zebra stripes of red on us.

Naturally we had to keep it a secret from our parents and other adults. Even back then society was too sissified with snowflake syndrome to instill discipline in teenagers and couldn't process coach's ways.  But man did we build character with him.
 
2013-05-03 12:30:02 AM

eas81: and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days


So, you are saying these kids are much tougher than you. Considering, you know, that they did between 800 and 1600 meters of bear crawl (based on one girl saying she had to do two laps and another saying 4 laps in TFA).
 
2013-05-03 12:30:20 AM

JungleBoogie: Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.


Soo....you just posted a video talking about what a great exercise this is.
 
2013-05-03 12:31:19 AM

Wayne 985: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.


In a wheelchair so there is some fat around the belly but the arms and shoulders are rock hard....live on my own doing the 40 hour week...

i758.photobucket.com

/high school track photo....
 
2013-05-03 12:32:49 AM
First, who the fark runs a news site nowadays that doesn't have a mobile version? Second, what the fark is a "bear crawl"? Third, if most of the students are fine with the punishment they received, why the fark should we care?
 
2013-05-03 12:33:05 AM
If priests don't have the kids on their knees then it's the teachers. If it isn't the teachers then it's the coaches. If it isn't the coaches then it's the Boy Scouts.

Does anyone grow up and just get through school normally anymore?
 
2013-05-03 12:33:15 AM
When I was a kid, if anyone missed practice, the coach would rip their heart right out of their chest and drop it on the ground. The kid would have to pick up his own heart, reattach the veins and arteries, stick the heart back in his chest cavity and sew it up using a spare shoelace. Then the kid would do 500 pushups and run a mile in less than 4 minutes.
 
2013-05-03 12:33:17 AM

eas81: Wayne 985: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.

In a wheelchair so there is some fat around the belly but the arms and shoulders are rock hard....live on my own doing the 40 hour week...

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/high school track photo....


BUUUUUURRRRRNNNNN!!!!
 
2013-05-03 12:33:33 AM

bingethinker: Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.


This. However; CSB. My highschool basketball coach was also the Dean of Discipline. (No shiat, actual title). He assigned punishments for detention. His usual gig was pick up trash under the bleachers and around the school grounds. Since the trash was pretty well picked up, he assigned me and one other kid to carry a picnic table around the school for three laps. This farking table was huge and heavy. We made the three laps, but my hands were bleeding from it. He kind of freaked out, apologizing etc.. but due to the way I was raised, respect for authority and all that, I assured him he would get no shiat from me for it. He and I became pretty good friends after this, and although I got detention many more times, (I was kind of a rebel/asshole in high school) he punished me, but treated me fairly. I guess my point is: suck it up snowflakes. Sometimes you gotta take shiat in life. Usually it makes you a better person. End of csb/rant.
 
2013-05-03 12:33:43 AM
Not as bad during freshman year of high school when our P.E. teachers made all the boys play leap frog over each other, while all the girls were on the bleachers giggling.


/it payed off when it switched
 
2013-05-03 12:33:53 AM
Those blisters seem excessive.. I'd like to think that, adult authority figure imposing over a high school kid not withstanding, I would've stopped and quit if the pain got so unbearable. Most our PE teachers ever did was laps and go sit alone on the timeout bench sort of things though so I can't say whether or not I'd have the backbone.
 
2013-05-03 12:35:07 AM

Strolpol: If they'd just stuck with laps, no one would have cared.


Maybe that's the point?
 
2013-05-03 12:36:26 AM

RINO: First, who the fark runs a news site nowadays that doesn't have a mobile version? Second, what the fark is a "bear crawl"? Third, if most of the students are fine with the punishment they received, why the fark should we care?


Imagine how a bear walks. Now imagine a supple, milk-skinned strawberry blonde teen girl who developed early walking like that, with her ample posterior toned from sprinting bobbing up and down in the early summer heat.
 
2013-05-03 12:36:29 AM

deadlymonkey: If that's abuse then I know several people in my military training that are going to jail.  Bear crawls on a track is nothing compared to bear crawls though Fire Ant infested terrain.


Holy shiat, you joined the military with no more papers to sign than a high-school athlete? Are you sure you didn't sign up to be processed like meat? What farking country did you sign up in?

Or maybe it's just an absurd comparison.

This is Indiana. The coaches did this to prove their superiority to other faculty and facets of highschool life. In rural Indiana, literally anything can and will be considered threatening to the Bible and High School sports.
 
2013-05-03 12:36:30 AM
These ain't no farm kids, that's for sure.
 
2013-05-03 12:36:33 AM
I'm trying to find that high school "feelings" questionaire or whatever that was handed out. Dammit I forget what it was called.  I need to print it out here at work.

Help me Fark!!
 
2013-05-03 12:36:39 AM
Even by Fark standards, there is an incredibly high concentration of sociopaths in this thread.
 
2013-05-03 12:38:20 AM
Sounds like a great workout idea taken to a ridiculous extreme.  Half a mile or more of this would have questionable positive impact on one's athletic ability and a high chance for injury.

Having said this, I might try it (for a few dozen yards at any rate) in tomorrow's workout.
 
2013-05-03 12:38:23 AM

Radioactive Ass: Coaches are hard on you in order to make you want to try harder. That's their job.


Sound like assholes, to me.
 
2013-05-03 12:38:34 AM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment.

"These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.

(*sigh*) If these kids really believe this nonsense, then they got what they deserved.


Word. Kids should be born with enough inborn knowledge to be cynical and possess deeply-rooted mistrust of everyone. If they failed to be born with all of this experiential knowledge, then they obviously deserve any and all harm and mistreatment for not having previously known better. Just like all victims of abuse and violence. ...am I doing it right?

/it's hard blaming victims, but someone's gotta be brave enough to do it
 
2013-05-03 12:38:46 AM
doglover: On the other hand, it's just freakin' blisters and some dirt.

You're mistaken, the blisters and dirt affected both hands.
 
2013-05-03 12:38:55 AM
This isn't a death camp.  If someone is telling you to do something to the point of physical injury.... STOP DOING IT.  Unless that person is going to cause you bodily harm => the harm you'd otherwise do to yourself.
 
2013-05-03 12:39:05 AM

StevieWonder_DrivingInstructor: Two laps around the track is 800 yards, not 50 yards. Even at your "2 a days" you were doing 1/8 the distance they did.


If his practices were like mine, you did several of them, along with many other fast paced conditioning drills.
 
2013-05-03 12:39:13 AM
Man, I love those things! Can I get an "om nom nom"?

www.deerfieldsbakery.com
 
2013-05-03 12:41:57 AM
It seems the overarching sentiment here is "I went through abuse as a kid doing sports.  These kids should, too. It builds character."

Which is... pretty farking crazy.

Fark sports.
 
2013-05-03 12:42:39 AM

Honest Bender: This isn't a death camp.  If someone is telling you to do something to the point of physical injury.... STOP DOING IT.  Unless that person is going to cause you bodily harm => the harm you'd otherwise do to yourself.


Exactly.  This is why the whole "statutory rape" thing is just a crock of shiat as well.

Just because one person is just a kid and the other one is an adult authority figure doesn't mean the kid can't exercise the same kind of informed and clearheaded judgement as an anonymous internet commentator after the fact.
 
2013-05-03 12:43:12 AM
Drill Sgt's would be doing patrol point duty in 'stan if they did this to recruits.But kids? This is child abuse, simple as that. Fire them, and a ban on them working with kids foe 3 years. And a spanking.
 
2013-05-03 12:43:39 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: RINO: First, who the fark runs a news site nowadays that doesn't have a mobile version? Second, what the fark is a "bear crawl"? Third, if most of the students are fine with the punishment they received, why the fark should we care?

Imagine how a bear walks. Now imagine a supple, milk-skinned strawberry blonde teen girl who developed early walking like that, with her ample posterior toned from sprinting bobbing up and down in the early summer heat.


Okay, but the male students had the same punishment. Also, unless things have changed in the past decade, you have to sign an injury waiver to take part in extra-curricular sports.
 
2013-05-03 12:43:54 AM

deadlymonkey: If that's abuse then I know several people in my military training that are going to jail.  Bear crawls on a track is nothing compared to bear crawls though Fire Ant infested terrain.


Bear crawls through fire ants? Try low crawls, dear god I hated the south and all the goddamn fire ants. Not to mention that it seemed like the PT area for my unit at the time was crawling with the bastards.
 
2013-05-03 12:44:42 AM

theMightyRegeya: Wayne 985: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.

Don't you get it?  Athletics are absolutely the highest priority in America.  If we can't run several times in an oval, hit a ball with a bat, or throw a ball through a hoop, how on Earth are we ever going to beat China to Mars and get those iPads made right here in America?


because why waste all the education and training money on someone that'll die from lard-heart when they're 45.
 
2013-05-03 12:45:25 AM
I had coaches whup on me for years, and I never had a blister the size of a squids eye on my hands. this is creepy
 
2013-05-03 12:45:26 AM
Ah I sometimes miss our "Fun Runs" - basically running for about 4~6 miles in a single file like passing a 10 pound medicine ball over our heads to the person behind us.  When it gets to the back the person sprints to the front and starts over.

/Only sometimes
 
2013-05-03 12:45:31 AM
I don't have many good things to say about coaches from my own life experience.
Passive-aggressive has-beens eager to mete out punishment to the non-jocks, desperately seeking acceptance from people 1/3rd their own age.

It's not the coach's job to deal physical punishment, but this was just ignorance and stupidity instead of malice. I.E coaches being coaches.
 
2013-05-03 12:48:08 AM

super_grass: You're just a sissy.

Back in my day the coach would regularly hold "penis inspection days". He would make us strip naked in the sport shack and do pull-ups in front of him after greasing ourselves and the rod up. If any of us falls he would start shooting bbs at our junk and beat us with a pool noodle until everyone has zebra stripes of red on us.

Naturally we had to keep it a secret from our parents and other adults. Even back then society was too sissified with snowflake syndrome to instill discipline in teenagers and couldn't process coach's ways.  But man did we build character with him.


Man I miss penis inspection day. My butt was red for a week.

csb but
We had a "smoking hot" female coach.
 
2013-05-03 12:48:36 AM
Holy shiat. Some of you people are insane. This country's fetish for sports is goddamn scary at times. Sports is the single largest instance of culturally accepted and encouraged psychopathic behavior in this country.
 
2013-05-03 12:48:49 AM

sendtodave: It seems the overarching sentiment here is "I went through abuse as a kid doing sports. These kids should, too. It builds character."

Which is... pretty farking crazy.


When I was young (up until maybe 14 or 15), I was in the boy scouts.  My troop went on two camping trips a month.  One was what we called "car" camping.  Drive out to a camping site, pitch camp, hang out.  The other type of trip was "camping."  IE, backpacking.

We'd leave friday night after, hike out ~8 miles.  Rough country with ~50 lb. backpacks, a good workout.  Saturday we hike another ~12 miles in, you're tired at the end of the day but it feels really good to rest around the fire that night.  Sunday we hike all the way back out.  Brutal.

Those backpacking trips are some of my most cherished childhood memories. Character built.
 
2013-05-03 12:48:53 AM
This isn't really that bad. We did the same thing when I was in high school 3 years ago. I played football and threw shot. Hanging under the bleachers during three-a-days in the summer was what we did during breaks. If we threw rocks onto the track, we had to crawl around on all fours until every single pebble was picked off of it. It was a rubberized track surrounded by gravel. There were rocks everywhere. Sometimes we had to push the field house like a sled. It had stucco walls. My hands were torn up. Quit if you don't like it. Discipline is important in a sport. Stuff like this instills it. Throwing shot was a cakewalk because we could do anything we wanted. The track team lost almost every meet due to a lack of respect for the coaches.
 
2013-05-03 12:49:20 AM

scottydoesntknow: Meh, I've seen worse. Like the day I discovered internet porn.

/That's gnarly


i412.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-03 12:49:44 AM
Where have all the masochists gone?
 
2013-05-03 12:50:10 AM
Okay one it's farking high school sports. Not training for the farking Olympics. Two what the hell happened to just having the kid run killers?
 
2013-05-03 12:50:40 AM
Holy farking Stockholm Syndrome!
 
2013-05-03 12:50:48 AM
Was it the students or the parents who complained?

Had an ex-Marine drill instructor-type who used to kill my hands when he'd shake them, or wish I had bigger muscles on my shoulder when he grip that or pat my back (and no, not sexual, I could tell the creepy touch). He taught the only co-ed  PE class in my middle school, and I loved it, but holy crap that hurt. So finally one day, towards the end of the semester, I ask to talk to him in his office. I said, "Hey man, I love your class, you're a pretty awesome teacher, but you might want to be a little easier with the grip on the girls. You're a little harsh." He was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't know, sheesh, uh," and got kinda embarrassed. I told him I didn't have an issue (I didn't, really, you wince and walk away, but he was leaving himself pretty open for a problem), and I hadn't heard any complaints, but in the future.

On other hand, I can so see some parents looking at the kids' hands and flipping out, while the kid is sitting in the back going, "Ma. . would you just sit down?"

*reads article*

HA!
 
2013-05-03 12:52:40 AM

super_grass: Honest Bender: This isn't a death camp.  If someone is telling you to do something to the point of physical injury.... STOP DOING IT.  Unless that person is going to cause you bodily harm => the harm you'd otherwise do to yourself.

Exactly.  This is why the whole "statutory rape" thing is just a crock of shiat as well.

Just because one person is just a kid and the other one is an adult authority figure doesn't mean the kid can't exercise the same kind of informed and clearheaded judgement as an anonymous internet commentator after the fact.


Seriously?  I went to high school in America. As a kid/teenager, if ANY adult ever told me to do something to where I was hurting myself, I'd stop. To hell with them.  What are they going to do? Get me in "trouble?"  Well, I bet that trouble isn't physical injury.

Maybe I was just a punk kid, but that's honestly what my mindset has been my whole life.
 
2013-05-03 12:53:24 AM

Tellingthem: Was it to much in this case?


Does a bear crawl in the woods?
 
2013-05-03 12:53:28 AM
Seriously? Jailarity should ensue for a stunt like this.
 
2013-05-03 12:54:19 AM

mikebdoss: I'm glad the internet has apparently decided that it's totally cool to hurt kids (in the past, and present). Just like bad parents hit their kids, bad coaches resort to this nonsense. Good coaches don't need to.


agreed - The coach should've done a lap with them to see how it was working out.  It sounds like the coach whipped out an idea that wasn't proven prior.  At least that's what I'd like to believe in my "Lisa Franks Moment" right now
 
2013-05-03 12:54:55 AM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Can't stop staring at pink suit....

Do you buy a suit like that at a pimp store and you ask them to alter a pimp suit to a regular single breast with a wide lapel, or do you go to a suit store and ask for a regular suit in pimp colours?


Poppin' tags? (NSFW 3:00)
I'll wear your granddad's clothes
I look incredible
Wearing this big-ass coat
From that thrift shop down the road.
 
2013-05-03 12:55:02 AM
When those scabs come in, I bet they could give a handjob that would scrape the warts off my shaft.
 
2013-05-03 12:56:35 AM

doglover: On one hand it is inappropriate to cause injuries to students, even blisters.

On the other hand, it's just freakin' blisters and some dirt. "*sniffle* they were all black and hurt" yeah no shiat. I've seen girls younger than you tear their knee open and bloody falling on gravel, get up and ignore it, and keep playing whatever they were playing.


Um, kind of both of these.

It's not the injuries themselves that's the problem. It's how and why the coaches inflicted them. Making the girls do something extra for punishment would have been fine and nobody would have thought it out of line. Making them do this....it's wrong, because it's abuse of authority.
 
2013-05-03 12:57:23 AM

180IQ: So... What the hell is a "bear crawl"?


According to my research on youtube, it's an exercise that isn't really intended to be done for long stretches, outdoors on a track.
 
2013-05-03 12:58:15 AM
Just imagine what they'd have to do if somebody wore an NRA shirt.
 
2013-05-03 01:00:49 AM
I ran varsity track in high school for an old school, tough as nails coach. When we shirked practice we had to run   bleachers for a while. It was horrible, but at least it was punishing us while we got in better shape. Sometimes we did bear crawls, but that was on the football field and only for serious infractions. No one left with large, open wounds unless they tripped while doing a lap.

Four laps around a paved track on your hands is ridiculous... it doesn't correct the behavior and just results in, well.... see article. The kids want to support the coach but the parents will scream bloody murder. And it wasn't like these kids posted party pictures on facebook the night before a big meet.... the coaches were probably just pissed because on some random day a lot of athletes didn't show up.
 
2013-05-03 01:02:21 AM

llortcM_yllort: basemetal: Meh, kids today don't know tough practices.

/know a few coaches
//it's hard to get kids to gut it out now
///just a different time/culture

eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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That sentiment really doesn't apply to this case.  If you read the article, the kids were defending the coaches.  It was the parents and administrators that freaked out.


The only student in TFA defending the teacher is the one who missed out on the punishment. Most of those kids had to do it for half a mile. If you paid attention to the beginning of TFA (first few paragraphs) one girl had to do it for a mile.

That's not a 50 yard adrenaline rush for funsies. That's torturing high school kids because you feel disrespected.
 
2013-05-03 01:02:54 AM
I can tell stories of practices in the 70's/80's I was in that was just horrible.  Coaches were jerks and power hungry.  I remember track..running a lot and doing stairs.  I was a jumper, so go figure why they had everyone do the exact same practice..pretty dumb.

Football practice ... in Kansas... in August.  That was not fun either.
Baseball practice.  Running bases until your thighs burned and couldn't go up/down stairs for a week without screaming in pain...etc.
Basketball.  Sprint until you puke and do leg-lifts until you cry.

Sports is suppose to be fun, coaches ruin that.  I loved intramural sports in college.  Couldn't get enough
 
2013-05-03 01:05:35 AM
If I'm ever lucky enough to have kids, I hope I'm able to raise them into people who are able to recognize that a jackass high school track coach is not a drill sergeant and can be told no if the situation calls for it.

/The situation called for it.
 
2013-05-03 01:06:26 AM

Honest Bender: Seriously? I went to high school in America. As a kid/teenager, if ANY adult ever told me to do something to where I was hurting myself, I'd stop.


Exercise hurts. And they're just frickin' blisters. Will be a little tender for a few days, and then be completely gone. As if by magic.

I do still think the teachers were completely in the wrong to punish them with this, especially over something so petty. But there's no need to treat blisters like 3rd degree burns or something.
 
2013-05-03 01:08:49 AM
You all should come see what gymnastics does to the hands. Look up gymnastics hand rip, and they practice with those.
 
2013-05-03 01:12:17 AM

Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys.  This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.


So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

/"roadmarching" was better by far; same deal only they made you wear boots.
 
2013-05-03 01:12:25 AM

Dauvan: You all should come see what gymnastics does to the hands. Look up gymnastics hand rip, and they practice with those.


Are you suggesting hand rips are imposed as arbitrary punishment by gymnastics coaches, Sporto?
 
2013-05-03 01:12:40 AM
I don't understand the mindset that would institute half-mile "bear crawls" in place of push ups, sit ups or running laps as punishment.
 
2013-05-03 01:12:41 AM

Dauvan: You all should come see what gymnastics does to the hands. Look up gymnastics hand rip, and they practice with those.


These kids didn't sign up for gymnastics.  They signed up for track, traditionally done with the feet.
 
2013-05-03 01:12:42 AM
And the nerfing of the next generation continues...

Oh big farking deal, a couple of blisters.  One day I screwed up at home and set my right hand on fire (magic trick gone wrong).  My parents gave me some aspirin, then yelled at me for an hour.  The next day they handed me a safety pin, told me to pop the blisters, put some band aids on my hand and not to be late for school.

Blisters aren't a big deal.  You made a commitment to your coach to show up to all practices on time ready to practice.  It's May, even by January you should know that the coach expects you to be on the field on time ready to practice and if you aren't going to be there you should at the very least let him/her know and you should also know what to expect, punishment wise, if you are late or not ready to practice.

I remember hearing a speech by a former high school football coach named Art Williams.  He said that when he coached, if he heard another player say the word "can't", then that player got paddled.  And he was proud of that paddle.  And if a player heard another player say the word "can't", that player got to paddle the player who said "can't".  He bragged about how you could not invent a word game or trick any player on his team into saying the word "can't".  Now we have coddled little children who whine when their coaches punish them when they fail to live up to the commitments which they made.

When I was 17, I was on a school trip one weekend.  I was part of the JROTC and we were doing an orienteering meet. This one weekend in November, in the middle of the woods, I slipped down a hill and put my foot into a hornets nest.  I was stung 27 times.  I did not finish the course that day.  It was a two day event.  That night my parents offered to drive the couple hundred miles to pick me up, but I declined.  Yes I hurt.  Oh fark did I hurt that night.  I stayed that night in the hotel with my fellow friends and cadets, and the next day, knowing that there was zero chance at placing I still ran the course.  Even being in pain (not as much as the day before) I ran through the woods and completed that course.  That Christmas I received plenty of shirts advertising for a team called the Hornets, a plastic model of a Hornet fighter jet, rubber hornets and some toy bees.  These kids, if they complain about some blisters, if they went through what I did, probably would have called up their parents, crying and asking to come home.  Me, I stuck it out and got a sympathy pass to second base that night in the hotel.
 
2013-05-03 01:16:13 AM
I was expecting this story to involve real bears. Leaving disappointed.
 
2013-05-03 01:17:02 AM

Great Janitor: And the nerfing of the next generation continues...

Oh big farking deal, a couple of blisters.  One day I screwed up at home and set my right hand on fire (magic trick gone wrong).  My parents gave me some aspirin, then yelled at me for an hour.  The next day they handed me a safety pin, told me to pop the blisters, put some band aids on my hand and not to be late for school.

Blisters aren't a big deal.  You made a commitment to your coach to show up to all practices on time ready to practice.  It's May, even by January you should know that the coach expects you to be on the field on time ready to practice and if you aren't going to be there you should at the very least let him/her know and you should also know what to expect, punishment wise, if you are late or not ready to practice.

I remember hearing a speech by a former high school football coach named Art Williams.  He said that when he coached, if he heard another player say the word "can't", then that player got paddled.  And he was proud of that paddle.  And if a player heard another player say the word "can't", that player got to paddle the player who said "can't".  He bragged about how you could not invent a word game or trick any player on his team into saying the word "can't".  Now we have coddled little children who whine when their coaches punish them when they fail to live up to the commitments which they made.

When I was 17, I was on a school trip one weekend.  I was part of the JROTC and we were doing an orienteering meet. This one weekend in November, in the middle of the woods, I slipped down a hill and put my foot into a hornets nest.  I was stung 27 times.  I did not finish the course that day.  It was a two day event.  That night my parents offered to drive the couple hundred miles to pick me up, but I declined.  Yes I hurt.  Oh fark did I hurt that night.  I stayed that night in the hotel with my fellow friends and cadets, and the next day, knowing that there was zero chance at placing I s ...


Paddling is the answer. Thank you for your insight; I will digest this wonderful gem of wisdom.

Although I imagine a male coach paddling a high school girl probably wouldn't end better than the present situation....
 
2013-05-03 01:17:34 AM
Let's all wait and see how America goes when generation duckface/oh I broke a nail/fark all authority gets along when the shiat hits the fan. Some of the punishment our grandparents and greatgrandparents experienced makes this shiat look like a day on the beach. No wonder the Asians are kicking our collective asses in all respects, and will rule our world. Toughen up kiddies.
 
2013-05-03 01:18:29 AM
Should have had them do the bear crawl on the football field. Problem solved.
 
2013-05-03 01:20:44 AM
What is Bear Crawl please?

I am furriner. Our bear do not crawl. Bear walk and shiat in woods.
 
2013-05-03 01:20:49 AM

Honest Bender: sendtodave: It seems the overarching sentiment here is "I went through abuse as a kid doing sports. These kids should, too. It builds character."

Which is... pretty farking crazy.

When I was young (up until maybe 14 or 15), I was in the boy scouts.  My troop went on two camping trips a month.  One was what we called "car" camping.  Drive out to a camping site, pitch camp, hang out.  The other type of trip was "camping."  IE, backpacking.

We'd leave friday night after, hike out ~8 miles.  Rough country with ~50 lb. backpacks, a good workout.  Saturday we hike another ~12 miles in, you're tired at the end of the day but it feels really good to rest around the fire that night.  Sunday we hike all the way back out.  Brutal.

Those backpacking trips are some of my most cherished childhood memories. Character built.


Hm.  So, perhaps we should force today's kids to do the same?  I mean, if you enjoyed exerting yourself to the point of pain, they should, too, right?

And if they aren't 100% for it, they come late or whatever,  they can bear crawl for the whole 20 miles.

That'll build some farking character.

/personally, I don't really like the characters that get build through physical bullshiat
 
2013-05-03 01:21:44 AM

Shmopee: So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?


Insane.
 
2013-05-03 01:23:26 AM

J. Frank Parnell: Exercise hurts.


Well, OK.  Sure.

Then the question is "if excercise hurts, should kids have to do excercise?"

Because that is advocating hurting kids.
 
2013-05-03 01:23:47 AM

farkinglizardking: Great Janitor: And the nerfing of the next generation continues...

Oh big farking deal, a couple of blisters.  One day I screwed up at home and set my right hand on fire (magic trick gone wrong).  My parents gave me some aspirin, then yelled at me for an hour.  The next day they handed me a safety pin, told me to pop the blisters, put some band aids on my hand and not to be late for school.

Blisters aren't a big deal.  You made a commitment to your coach to show up to all practices on time ready to practice.  It's May, even by January you should know that the coach expects you to be on the field on time ready to practice and if you aren't going to be there you should at the very least let him/her know and you should also know what to expect, punishment wise, if you are late or not ready to practice.

I remember hearing a speech by a former high school football coach named Art Williams.  He said that when he coached, if he heard another player say the word "can't", then that player got paddled.  And he was proud of that paddle.  And if a player heard another player say the word "can't", that player got to paddle the player who said "can't".  He bragged about how you could not invent a word game or trick any player on his team into saying the word "can't".  Now we have coddled little children who whine when their coaches punish them when they fail to live up to the commitments which they made.

When I was 17, I was on a school trip one weekend.  I was part of the JROTC and we were doing an orienteering meet. This one weekend in November, in the middle of the woods, I slipped down a hill and put my foot into a hornets nest.  I was stung 27 times.  I did not finish the course that day.  It was a two day event.  That night my parents offered to drive the couple hundred miles to pick me up, but I declined.  Yes I hurt.  Oh fark did I hurt that night.  I stayed that night in the hotel with my fellow friends and cadets, and the next day, knowing that there
was zero chance at placing I s ...


Paddling is the answer. Thank you for your insight; I will digest this wonderful gem of wisdom.

Although I imagine a male coach paddling a high school girl probably wouldn't end better than the present situation....
Why not?  Okay, I can see issues with male coaches paddling female students, but knowing people who were teachers when paddling was allowed in schools and knowing people who were students when paddling was allowed in schools and were paddled, none of them ever complained about it.  None of them ever said it was wrong or abusive or any of that.  Many of them actually wish paddling would return to schools. The people who I've met who are the loudest voices against paddling are those who started school after paddling was done away with in schools.

One thing that I thought was interesting was a former teacher who taught when paddling was allowed.  She told me that when the school that a punishment as powerful as paddling, there was actually a higher level of trust in the school between students and teaching staff.  But when the paddle went away, that trust also vanished.
 
2013-05-03 01:24:18 AM

eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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Something told me in the article that the kids are not the ones complaining here... It is likely that the parents from your generation are the ones that complained.
 
2013-05-03 01:24:43 AM

thorthor: Let's all wait and see how America goes when generation duckface/oh I broke a nail/fark all authority gets along when the shiat hits the fan. Some of the punishment our grandparents and greatgrandparents experienced makes this shiat look like a day on the beach. No wonder the Asians are kicking our collective asses in all respects, and will rule our world. Toughen up kiddies.


See, again, this is insanity.

Only someone who is abused thinks that abuse is normal, or beneficial.
 
2013-05-03 01:26:01 AM

Shmopee: Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys. This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.

So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?


Up and down the hallway? Linoleum? Tile? Carpet? Sod?

You and your fellow pussy government titty-suckers should shut the F up maybe, hero.

Unless you'd like to man up like a teenage girl and bearwalk four laps around a cinder-paved track field.

Fun fact: "cinders" are crushed pumice, a substance used specifically for abrading human skin, hard and sharp as broken glass.
 
2013-05-03 01:27:25 AM
Oh noes, won't someone think of the high school athletes?
 
2013-05-03 01:30:50 AM
Authoritarins.

Authoritarians everywhere.
 
2013-05-03 01:31:07 AM
I think the one kid did it correctly and the others sucked at it. If all the kids had their hands farked up might lean more towards the coaches being dicks, but not all of them were. There also seems to be varrying degrees of blisters/bruises. Do the drill right you don't get farked up hands.
 
2013-05-03 01:32:55 AM

Great Janitor: And the nerfing of the next generation continues...


Oh, FFS, we're not talking about JROTC kids amped up on adrenaline from getting stung by (hopefully European) hornets, or football players; we're talking about, at least in one case, 14-year-old girls doing 880-1760 yards of reverse bear crawls.  I mean...what parent wouldn't at least LIKE to do that to thier pubescent "princess", amirite?  But there's a difference between thinking it and doing it imho.

That's not to say they shouldn't be punished.  Sounds like a bunch of 'em decided to blow off practice at the end of the year and the little shiats needed to be brought into line.  Make 'em run up and down stairs or something.  With their feet.  The things they use to run during the meets.

The only thing more amazing than the discipline is that apparently only one of them told the coach to fark off and quit.

And the whole pervy thing of making them stick their asses up in the air and crawl backwards as punishment...believe if a person in a position of authority did that to one of my girls, I might have to administer some discipline of my own, on the coach.

After years of working desk jobs, my hands aren't nearly as calloused as they used to be, but I've had my share of blisters, bruises, pulled muscles, sunburns, and hell, more than once I shrugged off what I thought might have been the verge of heat stroke, and getting stung a few dozen times by field wasps (not near as bad as hornets, but they tend to swarm inside your clothes) but I still question the judgement of this coaching staff.
 
2013-05-03 01:33:05 AM

sendtodave: Shmopee: So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Insane.


No sir, "insane" was half hour wall sits, 50 "proper" push-ups in full formation while wearing winter BDUs in August in Kentucky; insane was trusting sleep deprived teenagers with machine guns and live ammo to man a functioning lp/op out in the middle of a field in December; insane was having to low crawl with an ugly stick under razor wire while drill sergeant blasted off live .50 cal ammo a foot above your head in the middle of the night (pretty sure I could hear that sadistic s.o.b. laughing as he was reloading) and then having to do it again at dawn.

And just like the kids on that team, I signed up of my own volition, so no, no sympathy.
 
2013-05-03 01:34:20 AM

deadlymonkey: If that's abuse then I know several people in my military training that are going to jail.  Bear crawls on a track is nothing compared to bear crawls though Fire Ant infested terrain.


Because adult military recruits are totally the same as 14 year old school kids.
 
2013-05-03 01:38:00 AM

BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys. This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.

So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Up and down the hallway? Linoleum? Tile? Carpet? Sod?

You and your fellow pussy government titty-suckers should shut the F up maybe, hero.

Unless you'd like to man up like a teenage girl and bearwalk four laps around a cinder-paved track field.

Fun fact: "cinders" are crushed pumice, a substance used specifically for abrading human skin, hard and sharp as broken glass.


You're right, that's my fault for not specifying; the hallway is what the concrete alley that ran between to the two barracks buildings that housed our training company was referred to as, but by all means, continue to hurl insults over the use of a colloquialism; way to prove your point, brah. -_-
 
2013-05-03 01:38:07 AM

Shmopee: sendtodave: Shmopee: So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Insane.

No sir, "insane" was half hour wall sits, 50 "proper" push-ups in full formation while wearing winter BDUs in August in Kentucky; insane was trusting sleep deprived teenagers with machine guns and live ammo to man a functioning lp/op out in the middle of a field in December; insane was having to low crawl with an ugly stick under razor wire while drill sergeant blasted off live .50 cal ammo a foot above your head in the middle of the night (pretty sure I could hear that sadistic s.o.b. laughing as he was reloading) and then having to do it again at dawn.

And just like the kids on that team, I signed up of my own volition, so no, no sympathy.


Well, sure, but I already knew that most soldiers are insane.  That they are actively broken down to think they are part of a unit, as opposed to individuals.

But we're talking about high school kids here.
 
2013-05-03 01:38:46 AM

Great Janitor: farkinglizardking: Great Janitor: And the nerfing of the next generation continues...

Oh big farking deal, a couple of blisters.  One day I screwed up at home and set my right hand on fire (magic trick gone wrong).  My parents gave me some aspirin, then yelled at me for an hour.  The next day they handed me a safety pin, told me to pop the blisters, put some band aids on my hand and not to be late for school.

Blisters aren't a big deal.  You made a commitment to your coach to show up to all practices on time ready to practice.  It's May, even by January you should know that the coach expects you to be on the field on time ready to practice and if you aren't going to be there you should at the very least let him/her know and you should also know what to expect, punishment wise, if you are late or not ready to practice.

I remember hearing a speech by a former high school football coach named Art Williams.  He said that when he coached, if he heard another player say the word "can't", then that player got paddled.  And he was proud of that paddle.  And if a player heard another player say the word "can't", that player got to paddle the player who said "can't".  He bragged about how you could not invent a word game or trick any player on his team into saying the word "can't".  Now we have coddled little children who whine when their coaches punish them when they fail to live up to the commitments which they made.

When I was 17, I was on a school trip one weekend.  I was part of the JROTC and we were doing an orienteering meet. This one weekend in November, in the middle of the woods, I slipped down a hill and put my foot into a hornets nest.  I was stung 27 times.  I did not finish the course that day.  It was a two day event.  That night my parents offered to drive the couple hundred miles to pick me up, but I declined.  Yes I hurt.  Oh fark did I hurt that night.  I stayed that night in the hotel with my fellow friends and cadets, and the next day, knowing that th ...


I can't tell if you're trolling or just a moron.

/g'night folks, time for beer and sleepies
 
2013-05-03 01:39:27 AM

Shmopee: BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys. This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.

So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Up and down the hallway? Linoleum? Tile? Carpet? Sod?

You and your fellow pussy government titty-suckers should shut the F up maybe, hero.

Unless you'd like to man up like a teenage girl and bearwalk four laps around a cinder-paved track field.

Fun fact: "cinders" are crushed pumice, a substance used specifically for abrading human skin, hard and sharp as broken glass.

You're right, that's my fault for not specifying; the hallway is what the concrete alley that ran between to the two barracks buildings that housed our training company was referred to as, but by all means, continue to hurl insults over the use of a colloquialism; way to prove your point, brah. -_-


Not paved with razor-sharp abrasive cinders, then, cupcake?
 
2013-05-03 01:41:53 AM

eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


2 a days?

im always looking out for new ways to torture myself.
Cant say I ever heard of these 2 a days though
 
2013-05-03 01:42:14 AM

thorthor: Ignored "thorthor". If you want to completely hide ignored user comments, change the "Show header of ignored comments" option in your user profile.


Well, Generation Duckface probably won't let authority trample all over their rights and then thank them for it because it "builds character." In other words, they'll be better people than you on your best day.

Also, "Generation Duckface"? Hah, kids these days! They probably came onto your lawn and stole your quad-cane and pawned it to buy the crack weed, am I right? Damn kids!

So! I want to thank all the get-over-it types and the I-suffered-so-you-have-to-suffer people, because it's been a Goddamn eternity since I got to ignore this many stupid farks in a nonpolitical thread. Gonna go ahead and make it political though because it's what I do: you are everything wrong with this country. You're the people who whine about the idea that we do something about income disparity, student loans, the lack of decent healthcare, etc. because you never caught a farking break and so your suffering absolves you of any obligation to try and prevent the next poor asshole from turning out as farked up and farked over as you. Cowards and sociopaths, to the "man."

I exhort each and every one of you to consume a penis.
 
2013-05-03 01:42:46 AM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Can't stop staring at pink suit....

Do you buy a suit like that at a pimp store and you ask them to alter a pimp suit to a regular single breast with a wide lapel, or do you go to a suit store and ask for a regular suit in pimp colours?


Pink suit?
 
2013-05-03 01:43:53 AM

sendtodave: Shmopee: sendtodave: Shmopee: So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Insane.

No sir, "insane" was half hour wall sits, 50 "proper" push-ups in full formation while wearing winter BDUs in August in Kentucky; insane was trusting sleep deprived teenagers with machine guns and live ammo to man a functioning lp/op out in the middle of a field in December; insane was having to low crawl with an ugly stick under razor wire while drill sergeant blasted off live .50 cal ammo a foot above your head in the middle of the night (pretty sure I could hear that sadistic s.o.b. laughing as he was reloading) and then having to do it again at dawn.

And just like the kids on that team, I signed up of my own volition, so no, no sympathy.

Well, sure, but I already knew that most soldiers are insane.  That they are actively broken down to think they are part of a unit, as opposed to individuals.

But we're talking about high school kids here.


You can enlist at seventeen (excluding those ROTC hard-chargers who start 12, I think, if they go Jr. ROTC), and yes, I realize the kids in the article are a few years younger than that, but it's still the same ballpark.
 
2013-05-03 01:44:00 AM

bingethinker: Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.


Those who can't teach gym become critics.
 
2013-05-03 01:51:13 AM

Shmopee: Ignored "Shmopee". If you want to completely hide ignored user comments, change the "Show header of ignored comments" option in your user profile.


I know the army's desperate enough to take any-farking-body these days, but I'd like to think you're smart enough to figure out the difference between military training, where you have basically signed away your rights to be beaten into whatever the army wants you to be because you will be fighting for your life for them, and civilian minors in a high school gym class.

But since you've already been squeezed out of the Pentagon Fun Factory, possibly you're not anymore.
 
2013-05-03 01:52:08 AM

BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys. This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.

So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Up and down the hallway? Linoleum? Tile? Carpet? Sod?

You and your fellow pussy government titty-suckers should shut the F up maybe, hero.

Unless you'd like to man up like a teenage girl and bearwalk four laps around a cinder-paved track field.

Fun fact: "cinders" are crushed pumice, a substance used specifically for abrading human skin, hard and sharp as broken glass.

You're right, that's my fault for not specifying; the hallway is what the concrete alley that ran between to the two barracks buildings that housed our training company was referred to as, but by all means, continue to hurl insults over the use of a colloquialism; way to prove your point, brah. -_-

Not paved with razor-sharp abrasive cinders, then, cupcake?


Ugh. Obvious troll is obvious and shame on me for falling prey.
 
2013-05-03 01:56:41 AM

tlchwi02: I had coaches whup on me for years, and I never had a blister the size of a squids eye on my hands. this is creepy


I'm puzzled by two things here: one, is a backwards bear crawl like doing a crab walk... and two, how did these kids do whatever this is to the point of the injury in the picture? I mean, the blisters look like they tried to grab the headpiece to the staff of Ra. I mean, wouldn't self preservation kick in? These kids must be hard core.
 
2013-05-03 01:58:15 AM

Shmopee: BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys. This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.

So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Up and down the hallway? Linoleum? Tile? Carpet? Sod?

You and your fellow pussy government titty-suckers should shut the F up maybe, hero.

Unless you'd like to man up like a teenage girl and bearwalk four laps around a cinder-paved track field.

Fun fact: "cinders" are crushed pumice, a substance used specifically for abrading human skin, hard and sharp as broken glass.

You're right, that's my fault for not specifying; the hallway is what the concrete alley that ran between to the two barracks buildings that housed our training company was referred to as, but by all means, continue to hurl insults over the use of a colloquialism; way to prove your point, brah. -_-

Not paved with razor-sharp abrasive cinders, then, cupcake?

Ugh. Obvious troll is obvious and shame on me for falling prey.


What?
/Wait, what?
 
2013-05-03 01:59:05 AM

Atomic Spunk: When I was a kid, if anyone missed practice, the coach would rip their heart right out of their chest and drop it on the ground. The kid would have to pick up his own heart, reattach the veins and arteries, stick the heart back in his chest cavity and sew it up using a spare shoelace. Then the kid would do 500 pushups and run a mile in less than 4 minutes.


But you try to tell that to the young people of today, and will they believe you?
 
2013-05-03 02:00:53 AM
Sure are a lot of badasses up in this thread.

Injuring your athletes doesn't build strength, it doesn't improve endurance, and it doesn't develop skill. What it does is teach people to accept abuse by authority figures as normal and acceptable. Citation: this thread.
 
2013-05-03 02:02:04 AM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....

2 a days?

im always looking out for new ways to torture myself.
Cant say I ever heard of these 2 a days though



It's just double workouts.
 
2013-05-03 02:02:57 AM

knight_on_the_rail: Shmopee: BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: BuckTurgidson: Shmopee: Earguy: Fark you, internet tough guys. This is incorrigible and intolerable torture.

So when my drill sergeant made the entire platoon do it up and down the hallway for half an hour, what was that?

Up and down the hallway? Linoleum? Tile? Carpet? Sod?

You and your fellow pussy government titty-suckers should shut the F up maybe, hero.

Unless you'd like to man up like a teenage girl and bearwalk four laps around a cinder-paved track field.

Fun fact: "cinders" are crushed pumice, a substance used specifically for abrading human skin, hard and sharp as broken glass.

You're right, that's my fault for not specifying; the hallway is what the concrete alley that ran between to the two barracks buildings that housed our training company was referred to as, but by all means, continue to hurl insults over the use of a colloquialism; way to prove your point, brah. -_-

Not paved with razor-sharp abrasive cinders, then, cupcake?

Ugh. Obvious troll is obvious and shame on me for falling prey.

What?
/Wait, what?


Reverse psychology.
 
2013-05-03 02:05:29 AM

pedobearapproved: teenage mutant ninja rapist: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....

2 a days?

im always looking out for new ways to torture myself.
Cant say I ever heard of these 2 a days though


It's just double workouts.


Ah I see.

suppose I coulda figured that out myself if I didnt have half a bottle of vodak in me
 
2013-05-03 02:07:37 AM
Were I seeking employment, I would definitely gravitate toward positions where PAID ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE was potential.


That ain't workin'
THAT'S THE WAY YOU DO IT!


/Money for nuthin'
//And the chicks for free
 
2013-05-03 02:08:58 AM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Tellingthem: But this is not that big of a deal.

period. this. if the snowflakes are to precious, keep them on the prom decoration committee. keep them off a sports team.




Period at the beginning of an argument? Congrats, you've taken the douchebagery of this word and kicked it up a notch.
 
2013-05-03 02:10:35 AM
Hearing the words, "fark you! Not doing it!" from time to time is a salutary experience for functionaries of our educational institutions. This incident would have been a fine occasion for those words to be spoken. I'm trying to get this idea across to my kid. She's afraid of getting in trouble. Yeah, getting in trouble at my house is bad. I'm an ogre. But school? What are they going to do to you? Not let you go there? Ohhhh, nooooo! The typical school is a cross between a blocked toilet and a minimum security prison. Getting suspended is like receiving a get out of jail free card.
 
2013-05-03 02:11:14 AM

180IQ: So... What the hell is a "bear crawlifif


If only there was a handy dandy link on the page for you to click and find out
 
2013-05-03 02:15:34 AM

Fano: how did these kids do whatever this is to the point of the injury in the picture? I mean, the blisters look like they tried to grab the headpiece to the staff of Ra. I mean, wouldn't self preservation kick in? These kids must be hard core.


Considering the exertion that their entire bodies were putting out, and the adrenaline and endorphins involved in that, they may not have even really felt it until the punishment was complete. I've done some runs while breaking in shoes that resulted in blisters I didn't even know about until I finished (and which subsequently prevented me from running for a couple days until they were healed enough).

But, yeah, you gotta be a little hardcore to participate in organized competitive sports. That's kind of the point of organized sports (vs. the more free-for-all fun of just playing with friends or not really competitive intramural stuff).

/and no, I don't condone this punishment; way out of line, as well as stupid from the coaching point of view as it may result in injuries that prevent his athletes from being able to compete
 
2013-05-03 02:16:14 AM

Shostie: Why don't you try not missing practice, girls?


My Jr. High PE teacher made us do bear crawls, and it wasn't punishment for doing something wrong. He was just a bit of a sociopath.
 
2013-05-03 02:21:12 AM

RINO: Second, what the fark is a "bear crawl"?


A bear crawl is when you go to a bar with the intent of meeting men who look something like Billy Mays.
 
2013-05-03 02:21:29 AM

forgotmydamnusername: She's afraid of getting in trouble. Yeah, getting in trouble at my house is bad. I'm an ogre. But school?


Interesting tangent.  What if it had been these kid's parents that caused them to sustain injury through such punishment?

I think they'd be getting a visit from Child Protective Services on behalf of their snowflake.
 
2013-05-03 02:23:49 AM

scottydoesntknow: Meh, I've seen worse. Like the day I discovered internet porn.

/That's gnarly


Internet what?
 
2013-05-03 02:34:46 AM

mamoru: Fano: how did these kids do whatever this is to the point of the injury in the picture? I mean, the blisters look like they tried to grab the headpiece to the staff of Ra. I mean, wouldn't self preservation kick in? These kids must be hard core.

Considering the exertion that their entire bodies were putting out, and the adrenaline and endorphins involved in that, they may not have even really felt it until the punishment was complete. I've done some runs while breaking in shoes that resulted in blisters I didn't even know about until I finished (and which subsequently prevented me from running for a couple days until they were healed enough).

But, yeah, you gotta be a little hardcore to participate in organized competitive sports. That's kind of the point of organized sports (vs. the more free-for-all fun of just playing with friends or not really competitive intramural stuff).

/and no, I don't condone this punishment; way out of line, as well as stupid from the coaching point of view as it may result in injuries that prevent his athletes from being able to compete


I'll give some credit for that, I guess. I dunno. I did tennis, cross country, and fencing. I could usually tell when I was doing something that was going to lead to blisters, which is why I suppose the students weren't the ones to complain. After that post I finally could load up the video and see what a bear crawl was and was trying to imagine how hot late April/early May Indiana asphalt is and wondering how these kids were holding their hands to get these sorts of marks. I started wondering if they were made out of the same material as Bobby Hill or didn't know how to mitigate pain when doing exercises. Then I realized I'm really tired and then it crossed my mind to ask why a 14 year old girl is on a high school track team.
 
2013-05-03 02:37:56 AM
This is going to be awesome when they have arthritis in their 30s. Good old repetitive stress on joints when your young, bites you in the ass with early onset joint inflammation.
 
2013-05-03 02:40:26 AM

brukmann: Or maybe it's just an absurd comparison.


Or maybe we shouldn't tolerate it in the military either.
 
2013-05-03 02:51:47 AM
It's all fun and "toughen up, pansies" until some kid gets a gnarly staph infection or MRSA.  Sports should be tough, and if they missed practice for a stupid reason, make them run laps or fetch equipment or something.  But a doctor's appointment is an excusable absence(even a prom meeting if it was mandatory for attendees or something), and getting big open sores on your hands isn't an acceptable punishment.  If I put blisters like that on my kid, CPS would put them in foster care.
 
2013-05-03 02:52:41 AM

JungleBoogie: Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.


Having participated in Bear Crawls as a form of aerobic exercise, I can say from experience that these are shiat on regular rubber turf fields. The fact that a track coach decided to take his job so seriously that 
he made farking track kids do this shiat on a concrete track is purely dickish. In football, they're done to weed out the boys from the men, because only men should be on that field. In track, who the fark cares? It's track for christ sake.

Yeah, fire all four of them. I remember when I was in high school, they canned a baseball coach who made a kid run around the field until he passed out and I completely agreed with it - that kind of intensity is purely sadistic and serves zero purpose. There are no boys to weed out in farking track.
 
2013-05-03 02:56:00 AM

eas81: Wayne 985: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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I am 90% convinced that you're out of shape and live a sheltered, coddled life. It's always the softest people who scream about toughening up on Internet forums.

In a wheelchair so there is some fat around the belly but the arms and shoulders are rock hard....live on my own doing the 40 hour week...

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/high school track photo....


Farva?
 
2013-05-03 02:58:56 AM

Yaxe: In football, they're done to weed out the boys from the men, because only men should be on that field.


If the only way you can tell "boys" and "men" apart with through an test like this I don't see why it makes any difference in terms of playing football. And if it's something you can determine by observing play, why bother with this ridiculous test?
 
2013-05-03 02:59:41 AM
Buncha crybaby pussies.
 
2013-05-03 03:04:11 AM
When I played sports in high school, you know how we separated the boys from the men? With crowbars.
 
2013-05-03 03:07:04 AM

Atomic Spunk: When I played sports in high school, you know how we separated the boys from the men? With crowbars.


You had to pry the men off of the boys?
 
2013-05-03 03:09:53 AM

JungleBoogie: Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.


Getting punished by being sent off to run laps wasn't a problem for me in high school gym class because I never ended up running. The coach would be too busy trying to flirt with the student teacher so he never bothered to check up on those who were supposed to be running and the track was on the far end of the school grounds. Reporting for class in street clothes was usually reason enough to be sent to the track and my "punishment" involved sitting under the bleachers by the track smoking. If it were cold enough outside for a jacket, I could also manage to sneak a Walkman out with me. It also helped that gym class was right before my lunch period and I'd usually be hungry enough by that time to eat the awful dishes that the cafeteria considered to be food. It was kind of nice that the coaches sent to babysit the general phys ed classes didn't want to be there.
 
2013-05-03 03:11:59 AM

sendtodave: Atomic Spunk: When I played sports in high school, you know how we separated the boys from the men? With crowbars.

You had to pry the men off of the boys?


I know my joke is a failure when I have to explain the punch line.
 
2013-05-03 03:16:24 AM
Mark jacksomn isnotfrom thecaucasys oreven the vicinity
 
2013-05-03 03:20:09 AM

QT_3.14159: I think the workout is a great idea and a good punishment (though I'm not sure it should apply to someone with a Dr's appt).  Next time they should just supply work gloves for those who do them.


first of all, no kids really need doctors appointments. it is just some bullshiat excuse to skip something.  if you are sick, you go to a doctor and miss a week. no one is ever, NEVER, sick for one day, and you dont go to doctors unless you are sick, really sick, not just flu or cold.   That said, if this biatch really had a reason to go to a doctor, WHAT THE fark IS SHE EVEN DOING AT PRACTICE ? damn, western civilization is turning, has turned, intoa bunch of whining pussies.
 
2013-05-03 03:25:25 AM

Atomic Spunk: When I was a kid, if anyone missed practice, the coach would rip their heart right out of their chest and drop it on the ground. The kid would have to pick up his own heart, reattach the veins and arteries, stick the heart back in his chest cavity and sew it up using a spare shoelace. Then the kid would do 500 pushups and run a mile in less than 4 minutes.



And you try to tell the young people of today that...and they won't believe you.

/Nope nope no
 
2013-05-03 03:30:27 AM
So what I'm seeing here is a lot of people who were beaten by sadists growing up and now they believe it's fine to do the same to kids.

There's a line between discipline and degrading someone just to get your big man jollies off.
 
2013-05-03 03:31:45 AM

profplump: Yaxe: In football, they're done to weed out the boys from the men, because only men should be on that field.

If the only way you can tell "boys" and "men" apart with through an test like this I don't see why it makes any difference in terms of playing football. And if it's something you can determine by observing play, why bother with this ridiculous test?


Because the bear crawls, gassers, snakes, and all other form of sadistic exercise is to see who will give that extra effort when the chips are down, or when you have to stop somebody at a 4 and 1 in the fourth quarter. Not to mention it's great aerobic exercise, which builds endurance, which people who go hard for a few seconds every down need to sustain for long games.

Which is why I say that's it's too weed out the boys from the men. A player who is gassed late in the 2nd quarter and forgets his proper form stands a very real chance of being severely injured versus a player who still has the energy to keep doing what he needs to be doing. If you've ever seen somebody get earholed (clotheslined), a lot of that is because players stop paying attention and forget their drilling when they're gassed.

Track wise, none of this is necessary - severe injury is unlikely unless something goes terribly wrong and Track coaches really only need to run somebody around a track to see how they perform after several laps, whereas football coaches can't just have players play a full pads on game to see how they will perform in an actual game.
 
2013-05-03 03:38:57 AM
This thread is so full of derp.. I dont even...
 
2013-05-03 03:39:22 AM

StevieWonder_DrivingInstructor: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


[images.wikia.com image 500x281]

Yeah, you never ran track, did you?

Two laps around the track is 800 yards, not 50 yards.  Even at your "2 a days" you were doing 1/8 the distance they did.


The furthest Ive ever been asked to bear crawel is 400M.  it hurt, i could probably  do it twice, but i sure wouldnt want to.  However, I think the surface was the problem here.  I dont think they thought this all the way through.
 
2013-05-03 03:44:03 AM
If only these track athletes had some way of getting to practice quickly.
 
2013-05-03 03:51:38 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: Holy shiat. Some of you people are insane. This country's fetish for sports is goddamn scary at times. Sports is the single largest instance of culturally accepted and encouraged psychopathic behavior in this country.


I don't think the US has much of a fetish for track and field, except when the Olympics roll around once every four years. Track athletes certainly aren't lionized like football or basketball players and therefore have to act like human beings. How many people carry memories of being shoved into a locker by members of the cross country team?
 
m00
2013-05-03 03:54:13 AM
When I was about 8 I was walking through the gym locker room, and some kids were joking around swinging a baseball in circles in the middle of the lockers. I tried to walk by them, but I got hit me right in the face, smashed my nose to pieces. Blood everywhere. I started crying. Coach told me to hold my nose back and stop crying like a little girl. Made me go back to class. My nose is crooked to this day. :( I could have been pretty :(
 
m00
2013-05-03 03:56:29 AM

Moonfisher: If I put blisters like that on my kid, CPS would put them in foster care.


Yeah but you don't have custody of your kids... the government and schools do.

\welcome to Obama's America
\\kidding!!!!! :)
 
2013-05-03 04:33:38 AM
My track coach made us do bear crawls sometimes, but she had us wear gloves to do them because our outdoor track was nasty black gravel with the occasional bit of broken glass in it and the indoor gym wasn't entirely splinter-free. And she never had us do them as punishment.

Punishment was usually five curl-ups for every minute you'd been late without a note or just extra laps. Unless you'd been caught cheating, bullying someone or breaking the Honor Code, then you had to sit out a game for dishonoring the team and apologize in writing to each one of your teammates. It happened ONCE.

My track coach was awesome. She also coached fast-pitch, taught biology and kept several pet snakes in class. She also insisted on wearing a little black dress and her usual lab coat to games, as well as one of her many snakes, usually Popcorn the python, who was long enough to sun herself across the necks of four players. Picture Jeri Ryan with glasses and that's what Coach looked like. I'm fairly sure she only coached girls' sports because the boys were invariably useless in her presence.
 
2013-05-03 05:01:55 AM
Damn, abuse victims really do believe that abuse is normal and future victims deserve it.

This thread should be a psychology case study.
 
2013-05-03 05:03:43 AM
And another example of why sports culture in this country has gone completely insane.

Quick, find a story about the internet or video games and tell everyone how destructive they are to cover for it.
 
2013-05-03 05:04:39 AM
I love how the report ends with the students saying that the firing of the coaches will affect their performance at an upcoming track meet. Newsflash for you high school jocks: Nothing you do in high school, particularly high school athletics, will make a damn bit of difference in the rest of your life. Oh sure, it seems like that upcoming football game or whatever is the be-all end-all of your entire lifetime, but guess what? It's just a stupid game, and nobody really cares about it. And your future employer certainly won't care about it. Heck, nobody at college will even give a damn how you did in this track meet.

High school coaches are really miserable specimens of humanity, and high school athletes seem to exhibit some sort of Stockholm syndrome when they defend these lowlife jackholes who get off on hurling abuse at adolescents because of their own failed dreams and their desperate attempts to feel like they're somehow relevant to anyone, anywhere.

Just saying.
 
2013-05-03 05:07:46 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Injuring your athletes doesn't build strength, it doesn't improve endurance, and it doesn't develop skill.


But blisters do build callouses. What a grown ass workin' man can do to his hands without gloves painlessly and teenage girl will get friction blisters and pain from doing.

Hell, I know construction guys who can put out cigarettes on the heel of their palm. Their hands are tougher than my feet after a summer at the beach.
 
2013-05-03 05:11:07 AM
Gloves? Gloves.
 
2013-05-03 05:13:21 AM

Yaxe: whereas football coaches can't just have players play a full pads on game to see how they will perform in an actual game.


Because?
 
2013-05-03 05:16:34 AM
Geez, guys. I know that kids these days need some good ol' fashioned discipline, but this is pretty much overkill.

The track coach should have just have them do ~20 laps marine corps style (that is, non-stop). Be harsh, yes. But not like the example in TFA.

And definitely don't punish a student for doctor's appointments.
 
2013-05-03 05:18:14 AM

Yaxe: Not to mention it's great aerobic exercise, which builds endurance


If only there was some way to get great aerobic exercise and build endurance without "sadistic exercise". But that's just crazy talk.

/ By the same standards you apply, amputation is great for weight loss.
 
2013-05-03 05:22:07 AM

eas81: also i suspect these parents didnt participate in sports or were the ones that were "picked" on in school.....either way this is why i dont have kids and fark the pansies that have these farking snowflakes....

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I agree with you. It's a real shame your parents decided to have a snowflake, the world certainly could have done without you.

pla: FTA : As the school district notifies all parents about the incident, one of the students and her mother left for a doctor's appointment for a thorough examination.

Ca-CHING!


Really, I didn't see one word in the article about a parent threatening to sue. My daughters in track and if she came home with damage lie that to her hands I would probably get itlooked at by her doctor. You see, this type of injury isn't expected in track, something very extreme went on if she were to come gone with injuries lie this to her hands.

 And before you chine in about what a sissy she is, she just posted a 6 minute 12 second mile at her last meet. Not bad for 7th grade girl. I'd like to see your jelly donut ass beat that time.
 
2013-05-03 05:27:44 AM

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2013-05-03 05:55:14 AM
I played rugby all the way through school and, as a group of teenage boys are wont to do, we pissed about constantly.  Our punishments were always exercise based but never to the point we'd have been injured.  No sane coach wants their team injured.  We would do things like bleep tests, running up a couple of ridiculous hills in the local park over and over or do something called "hare and hounds" where one teacher would run half way around the track before we were allowed to start chasing him and if one of us finished behind him we had to do it again.  I don't remember any corporal punishment which is what this amounts to.
 
2013-05-03 05:59:24 AM

I sound fat: StevieWonder_DrivingInstructor: eas81: farking wussies...i remember back in my day during football we had to run stadiums for shiat like that...and a 50 yard bear crawl was part of 2 a days....i swear kids today are p%ssies...and the parents are having some flash backs to when they did that shiat and freaking the fark out....live with it learn it deal with it....


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Yeah, you never ran track, did you?

Two laps around the track is 800 yards, not 50 yards.  Even at your "2 a days" you were doing 1/8 the distance they did.

The furthest Ive ever been asked to bear crawel is 400M.  it hurt, i could probably  do it twice, but i sure wouldnt want to.  However, I think the surface was the problem here.  I dont think they thought this all the way through.


The surface was definitely a problem: I'm guessing it was also warm and sunny out, so the temperature of the track (which looks to either be asphalt or artificial) probably also made things worse.

Way back in the dark ages of 1989-1990, when I ran track, coaches didn't do this kind of stuff.  Our punishment if late for practice?  Extra laps.  You know, upright.

/of course, when practice was going out and running seven miles...
 
2013-05-03 06:06:07 AM

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2013-05-03 06:09:18 AM
I'm just so glad it was a white guy this time you guys.
 
2013-05-03 06:17:53 AM
sounds like shoulder injuries waiting to happen. At least at that crazy distance. Blisters heal quick but joint injuries are a biatch.

The macho workout:  its all fun and games until you blow out a shoulder or herniate a disc.
 
2013-05-03 06:22:34 AM
Been there done that, although bear crawling across hot asphalt is painful, these kids won't be scarred for life.
 
2013-05-03 06:28:36 AM
When I played football in high school our coach would always tell us to keep working because we would pass out before we die, so therefore it was safe and we had nothing to worry about. And then this story broke. Our coach told us he wasn't going to tell us that anymore. Seems like he would have known about the risks of this kind of stuff earlier, but I guess not.
 
2013-05-03 06:47:01 AM

Bontesla: Who the hell makes content unavailable for mobile devices?


People that don't like them?  Incorrectly setup websites that disable mobile access rather than set it up.
 
2013-05-03 06:53:12 AM
When I was in school, my wrestling coach made us run outside, in shorts, in the middle of winter as a punishment. We didn't run to the media. And this was in 2002
 
2013-05-03 06:55:20 AM
That happened to me in gym. Coach had us play crab soccer on the basketball court. We gathered at the end and I said 'what do I do about this?" and showed him a square inch of skin hanging off my palm. He told me to tear it off, so I did. That's how I got in good with the old-school coach even though I wasn't on the football team. For all the good that did me.
 
2013-05-03 07:02:59 AM
Unimpressed
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2013-05-03 07:06:12 AM

Tellingthem: Seriously, after after the bruises, cuts, smashed fingers, etc from football practice these kids would have been down for the count.


After you had a cut or a smashed finger you probably had it cleaned up or looked at.  They were crawling over a dirty rough track with blisters.


Fark France: This isn't really that bad. We did the same thing when I was in high school 3 years ago. I played football and threw shot. Hanging under the bleachers during three-a-days in the summer was what we did during breaks. If we threw rocks onto the track, we had to crawl around on all fours until every single pebble was picked off of it. It was a rubberized track surrounded by gravel. There were rocks everywhere. Sometimes we had to push the field house like a sled. It had stucco walls. My hands were torn up. Quit if you don't like it. Discipline is important in a sport. Stuff like this instills it. Throwing shot was a cakewalk because we could do anything we wanted. The track team lost almost every meet due to a lack of respect for the coaches.


So do your hands may have had thicker calouses that would make this a little different?
 
2013-05-03 07:08:02 AM
We were skipping practice a lot and after a particularly bad showing at a meet we got punished. Up the ladder down the ladder. Run 1 mile, 3/4 mile, 1/2 mile, 1/4 mile, 200m, 100m, 50m, then repeat it all back up to 1 mile. If he thought you weren't sprinting or running your absolute fastest for each segment he kicked us off the team.

/CSB
//learned our lesson though
 
2013-05-03 07:10:21 AM

Mimic_Octopus: no one is ever, NEVER, sick for one day


Really? Could have sworn that a few months ago I was completely down from an ear infection + fever for one day, but that the next day I was just fine. Maybe you're not as healthy as you think.

Also, people comparing this to what they had to do in the military are morons. These kids didn't sign up for the military.
 
2013-05-03 07:12:45 AM
The worst part about the story is that these dumb coaches are teaching these kids that "crab walks" are bear crawls.


Great Janitor:
Blisters aren't a big deal.

Those aren't just blisters.
 
2013-05-03 07:13:13 AM
We had to do those a lot, but on a reasonably clean, flat gym floor, not some nasty outdoor(?) track.

To those unconcerned about the kids' injuries, there are continuing to be more and more incidents of minor injuries infected by resistant bacteria, leading to brutal infections, resulting in long term treatments and amputations. Something we never really worried about 30 years ago.
 
2013-05-03 07:16:48 AM

Mimic_Octopus: QT_3.14159: I think the workout is a great idea and a good punishment (though I'm not sure it should apply to someone with a Dr's appt).  Next time they should just supply work gloves for those who do them.

first of all, no kids really need doctors appointments. it is just some bullshiat excuse to skip something.  if you are sick, you go to a doctor and miss a week. no one is ever, NEVER, sick for one day, and you dont go to doctors unless you are sick, really sick, not just flu or cold.   That said, if this biatch really had a reason to go to a doctor, WHAT THE fark IS SHE EVEN DOING AT PRACTICE ? damn, western civilization is turning, has turned, intoa bunch of whining pussies.


Bullshiat, dude. Trust me. Kids need meds sometimes for a chronic condition (say, ADD like me), get blasted by a fever for a day where the school won't let you go in, they get the shiats from crappy school food, you name it.

Where's your MD from?

/ Doctor
// Boxed and played football
/// fark bleacher runs
 
2013-05-03 07:17:14 AM
We had to play soccer like that......when I was 7
 
2013-05-03 07:22:50 AM

Dear Jerk: That happened to me in gym. Coach had us play crab soccer on the basketball court. We gathered at the end and I said 'what do I do about this?" and showed him a square inch of skin hanging off my palm. He told me to tear it off, so I did. That's how I got in good with the old-school coach even though I wasn't on the football team. For all the good that did me.


Not quite the same.  The damage from crab walking around a track is much worse than n a smooth court.
 
2013-05-03 07:27:49 AM
this is the same school that made the news a while ago for suspending 30 or so seniors for a post-it note prank. not bad making the news twice in one year for a tiny country school.
 
2013-05-03 07:33:18 AM

JungleBoogie: They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.



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They've shown a blister.  The kid got a blister.  At a practice.
 
2013-05-03 07:33:19 AM
The funniest thing is that these kids are saying how much these coaches care about them. Guess what?  They don't.

As with most coaches, these are people who had a tough time in college, so they went the education or teaching degree route. This is just a job to them and they hate it. Most probably spend a good portion of the day thinking about what might have been. If they were smarter, if they had gotten better grades, etc.
 
2013-05-03 07:37:58 AM

RogueLeader: You're mistaken, the blisters and dirt affected both hands.


Wow, so both hands were affected by dirt.  Fire the entire coaching team, then.
 
2013-05-03 07:39:58 AM

Fano: 180IQ: So... What the hell is a "bear crawl"?

That's what I wondered, then I decided their sadistic Asian coach actually meant to send them to Dunkin Donuts.


+1
 
2013-05-03 07:50:22 AM

marius2: Damn kids need to toughen up their hands.


 Apparently, they don't work at all down there.
Too busy fappin'.
Well, they can stop fappin now.
 
2013-05-03 07:51:15 AM
Love the aging jocks in this thread. We get it, you were a tough as nails bad ass in your day, and coach really loved you. Kids these days, etc.
 
2013-05-03 08:04:31 AM
While I think making the kids do their bear crawls around the track was a bit harsh (that rubberized track stuff hurts!), so is asking the coaches to resign. We were warned that missing practices would result in some kind of punishment, whether it was extra repeats, or being ineligible to compete in the next meet, but some kids will always be drama queens and slackers. Although, punishment for a doctor's appointment seems rough, perhaps she didn't warn the coaches that she'd be out? If she just told them, "Oh I had a doctor's appointment," the next day, it's understandable that they might not believe her.

Next time, make the kids do their bear crawls up and down the football field, and warn the coaches that punishments should be reasonable. No permanent damage was done, their hands will heal.

/our favorite punishment was when the soccer coach made his guys run our cross country course for losing a game
 
2013-05-03 08:04:56 AM
What's wrong with bear claws? They're delicious!
 
2013-05-03 08:12:16 AM

Nabb1: Bontesla: Who the hell makes content unavailable for mobile devices?

Works on my iPad


Now I remember why I have you farkied as red.
 
2013-05-03 08:15:52 AM
The only way this could be bad is if it involved real bears. Other then that, man up nancy boys.
 
2013-05-03 08:17:52 AM
1/4 mile is a long way to bear crawl.

next time, i want to see them quadrupedal it.
 
2013-05-03 08:18:49 AM
Lol @ the wusses on fark equating this to sociopathic and psychopathic behavior. Way to lack perspective, fatty.

Track kids were once proud that their sport was other kids' punishment, and in this case it looks like the kids still are.

Its the parents who are going on a derp fest because little billy got blisters. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BLISTERS!!! I guess they never bothered to look at their kids' feet after hell week. Or are todays little snowflakes too precious to have a hell week anymore?

Used to have to do cliff sprints at Oley Valley if anyone ran track in pa. Ill take BLISTERS over being covered in cuts bruises and vomit. Not to mention being unable to walk right for a few days. But we also were champions in our region for years in a row thanks to that cliff, and to this day I have calves and quads that don't quit.

If you are going to whine that some blisters from exercise are abuse, you have absolutely no sense of perspective to what real abuse is and are a pretty shallow uninformed human being.
 
2013-05-03 08:20:03 AM

liam76: The worst part about the story is that these dumb coaches are teaching these kids that "crab walks" are bear crawls.


They're not. Crab walks are belly up. Bear crawls are ass up. Backwards bear crawls, what these kids did, are bear crawls moving backwards. Feet first. Which is way worse on the hands.
 
2013-05-03 08:20:19 AM

JungleBoogie: Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.


HOLY SHEEIT THERE ARE SOME BIATCHES UP IN THIS THREAD.

BLISTERS FARKING HEAL!  THESE KIDS WILL SURVIVE!

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ROWERS LAUGH AT YOUR WEAKNESS.
 
2013-05-03 08:21:32 AM

scubamage: Track kids were once proud that their sport was other kids' punishment, and in this case it looks like the kids still are.


I've never seen a bear crawl event at a track meet.
 
2013-05-03 08:21:38 AM
I would be interested to see video evidence of how the people making "snowflake" comments reacted to being punished for failing to be in two places at once.   The article clearly says at least one of them was at a meeting making arrangements for the schools prom.

Because they'll be whining like the little biatches they are.
 
2013-05-03 08:22:23 AM

SmellsLikePoo: JungleBoogie: Hands are pretty important. For stuff like writing and typing. Building stuff. They haven't been used for walking for millenia.

They did this for half a mile. On a cinder or concrete track. Probably not those college tracks with the rubberized surface. Regardless. Totally unacceptable to f••k up someone young teenagers hands like that.

I can understand punishment, so make them miss a meet or run extra laps. You know, with shoes on.

Half a mile of that. Young teenagers. That's extremely poor judgement on the part of the coaches.

HOLY SHEEIT THERE ARE SOME BIATCHES UP IN THIS THREAD.

BLISTERS FARKING HEAL!  THESE KIDS WILL SURVIVE!



ROWERS LAUGH AT YOUR WEAKNESS.


EXACTLY! Obviously this wasn't a farm school. These parents would explode. Kids are tough, so is the world. Some scrapes and bruises do in fact make you a better person.
 
2013-05-03 08:23:57 AM

Fano: 180IQ: So... What the hell is a "bear crawl"?

That's what I wondered, then I decided their sadistic Asian coach actually meant to send them to Dunkin Donuts.


/keyboard...
// owed
 
2013-05-03 08:24:38 AM
In this thread: Plenty of idiots that don't have kids, and therefore don't fully understand the consequences of these actions.

The coaches should be fired, and anyone telling the kids to man up should have their heads examined for brain damage.
 
2013-05-03 08:26:30 AM

HotWingConspiracy: scubamage: Track kids were once proud that their sport was other kids' punishment, and in this case it looks like the kids still are.

I've never seen a bear crawl event at a track meet.


Making runners run 2 laps as punishment. Yeah, that'll make a difference.

Here's a hint: runners don't mind running. Most of them do it on their own outside of track. Using something someone enjoys as punishment isn't a very good approach.

As for the kida being two places at once: did they have proof? Or are we taking a kid's word with no proof.
 
2013-05-03 08:27:19 AM
My soccer kids are younger than these guys, but my rule is that I don't make them do something I won't do with them. They run laps, I run laps. And last season I somehow ended up with every hyper kid in the district on my team. I ran a lot of laps.

I found that this policy prevented whining, made parents happy, caused kids to respect me as a coach, and got my ass in great shape by the end of the season.

So, coaches. Down on all fours. You want these kids to bear crawl, you first.

I got no respect for beer belly, yell from the sideline coaches who are in it to relive their HS glory days.
 
2013-05-03 08:27:34 AM
If my kid got those bruises and blisters I'd call the coaches and chew them out but I would not get them fired.

I doubt they realized that the kids hands would get hurt bacause theyre idiots, but it probably wasn't intentional. And your kid isn't going to be able to whine to Mommy and Daddy all the time.
 
2013-05-03 08:29:03 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: When those scabs come in, I bet they could give a handjob that would scrape the warts off my shaft.


That caused involuntary coffee-spitting. You are a sick boy.
 
2013-05-03 08:32:11 AM

Vaneshi: I would be interested to see video evidence of how the people making "snowflake" comments reacted to being punished for failing to be in two places at once.   The article clearly says at least one of them was at a meeting making arrangements for the schools prom.

Because they'll be whining like the little biatches they are.


Team sport mothafarka.  You made a commitment to be there to work with your teammates.  It is called PRIORITIES.You  are expected to follow through, live up to expectations!  You are letting your teammates down if you do anything else.

And if you don't show up, don't whine like a biatch to your mom & dad that you got taken out of the relay, or you are just benched.  A physical punishment for missing practice, how is this something new?
 
2013-05-03 08:34:59 AM

mainstreet62: In this thread: Plenty of idiots that don't have kids, and therefore don't fully understand the consequences of these actions.

The coaches should be fired, and anyone telling the kids to man up should have their heads examined for brain damage.


Also in this thread: self righteous toolbags who think their way of parenting (being overly protective and trying to cover kids in bubblewrap) is perfect and everyone else is wrong for thinking a few scrapes isn't really a big deal.
 
2013-05-03 08:35:05 AM
All I'm seeing here is some kid didn't know better than to do bear crawls with so much weight on the heel of her hand.  Sure, the track's surface probably wasn't as kind as grassy football and soccer fields, but that's not a job losing factor.  If you're doing a lot of push-ups  or at "front leaning rest" position for an extended period of time, and are not evenly distributing your weight on your hands, but rather just bracing yourself on the heels, this is gonna happen.
 
2013-05-03 08:38:08 AM

scubamage: HotWingConspiracy: scubamage: Track kids were once proud that their sport was other kids' punishment, and in this case it looks like the kids still are.

I've never seen a bear crawl event at a track meet.

Making runners run 2 laps as punishment. Yeah, that'll make a difference.


Maybe you can think a little out of your comfort zone on this, I'm confident that you'll see there are other options.

Here's a hint: runners don't mind running. Most of them do it on their own outside of track. Using something someone enjoys as punishment isn't a very good approach.

There is a difference between discipline and punishment, but shiatty coaches probably can't see it. One will help, the other will get you suspended.

As for the kida being two places at once: did they have proof? Or are we taking a kid's word with no proof.

Yeah if they were lying they should be water boarded.
 
2013-05-03 08:39:50 AM

mainstreet62: In this thread: Plenty of idiots that don't have kids, and therefore don't fully understand the consequences of these actions.

The coaches should be fired, and anyone telling the kids to man up should have their heads examined for brain damage.


What sports did you participate in?  Competitive crocheting?
 
2013-05-03 08:44:51 AM
The most outrageous things about this article are that the journalist quoted a student explaining a bear crawl as 'like this' and the fact that the web designer managed to create a mobile experience worse than those of pages that don't let you scroll once they load.
 
2013-05-03 08:47:27 AM
I got no respect for beer belly, yell from the sideline coaches who are in it to relive their HS glory days.

Indeed.


memestorage.com
 
2013-05-03 08:49:47 AM
High School football.  Every damn day after school.
 
2013-05-03 08:52:25 AM
SmellsLikePoo:

And if you don't show up, don't whine like a biatch to your mom & dad that you got taken out of the relay, or you are just benched.  A physical punishment for missing practice, how is this something new?

The biggest load of crap about sports these days is that if you bench a kid in high school, you can get sued for jeopardizing their college recruitment status. If you bench a kid in college, you can get sued for jeopardizing their pro-recruitment status.  Coaches can't do anything to discipline their players these days without some risk to their jobs...
 
2013-05-03 09:02:41 AM

JungleBoogie: concrete


Pretty sure it is rubberized. That is why their hands were so black like they have been handling tires. If you look at the school's website you can see that it is still a very dark track. Asphalt would become ashy or grey fairly quickly.

LMGTFY: http://www.ihigh.com/cascadecadets/gallery_52495.html
 
2013-05-03 09:04:29 AM

Semantic Warrior: SmellsLikePoo:

And if you don't show up, don't whine like a biatch to your mom & dad that you got taken out of the relay, or you are just benched.  A physical punishment for missing practice, how is this something new?

The biggest load of crap about sports these days is that if you bench a kid in high school, you can get sued for jeopardizing their college recruitment status. If you bench a kid in college, you can get sued for jeopardizing their pro-recruitment status.  Coaches can't do anything to discipline their players these days without some risk to their jobs...


YUP.  When I used to coach, I outlined all team policies for the kids on day 1, and made the parents agree to them as well just to cover my ass.  Fast forward to middle/end of season and I decide to sit one the kids and not let him race because he missed a critical team practice without any notice to me.  In rowing this is particularly unacceptable because if you are missing one person, you can't even row the boat.  I decided to swap the kid out for someone who was there everyday.

Lo and behold... I get a phone call from the head coach telling me my decision has been overruled and the slacker kid who consistently missed practice would get to row anyway.  Of course the boat did poorly, but more importantly, how is this kid EVER GOING TO SUCCEED IN LIFE?
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To all the people complaining about the coaches actions, I hope you teach your kids how to follow through on responsibility & commitments.Otherwise their high school years will be the peak of their existence and it will all be down hill disappointment from there.
 
2013-05-03 09:15:00 AM

Great Janitor: And the nerfing of the next generation continues...

Oh big farking deal, a couple of blisters.  One day I screwed up at home and set my right hand on fire (magic trick gone wrong).  My parents gave me some aspirin, then yelled at me for an hour.  The next day they handed me a safety pin, told me to pop the blisters, put some band aids on my hand and not to be late for school.

Blisters aren't a big deal.  You made a commitment to your coach to show up to all practices on time ready to practice.  It's May, even by January you should know that the coach expects you to be on the field on time ready to practice and if you aren't going to be there you should at the very least let him/her know and you should also know what to expect, punishment wise, if you are late or not ready to practice.

I remember hearing a speech by a former high school football coach named Art Williams.  He said that when he coached, if he heard another player say the word "can't", then that player got paddled.  And he was proud of that paddle.  And if a player heard another player say the word "can't", that player got to paddle the player who said "can't".  He bragged about how you could not invent a word game or trick any player on his team into saying the word "can't".  Now we have coddled little children who whine when their coaches punish them when they fail to live up to the commitments which they made.

When I was 17, I was on a school trip one weekend.  I was part of the JROTC and we were doing an orienteering meet. This one weekend in November, in the middle of the woods, I slipped down a hill and put my foot into a hornets nest.  I was stung 27 times.  I did not finish the course that day.  It was a two day event.  That night my parents offered to drive the couple hundred miles to pick me up, but I declined.  Yes I hurt.  Oh fark did I hurt that night.  I stayed that night in the hotel with my fellow friends and cadets, and the next day, knowing that there was zero chance at placing I still ran the course.  Even being in pain (not as much as the day before) I ran through the woods and completed that course.  That Christmas I received plenty of shirts advertising for a team called the Hornets, a plastic model of a Hornet fighter jet, rubber hornets and some toy bees.  These kids, if they complain about some blisters, if they went through what I did, probably would have called up their parents, crying and asking to come home.  Me, I stuck it out and got a sympathy pass to second base that night in the hotel.


Go on.......
 
2013-05-03 09:20:20 AM

sendtodave: J. Frank Parnell: Exercise hurts.

Well, OK.  Sure.

Then the question is "if excercise hurts, should kids have to do excercise?"

Because that is advocating hurting kids.


Ok, let's think about this.
1.  These may or may not be 'kids'.  When I did track, it was all four grade levels together.  If they do theirs the same way that means that these kids are anywhere from 14-19 years old this late in the year.
2.  The job of parents, authority, leaders is NOT to make people feel good about themselves.  My first priority as a parent is to ensure that my kids can survive on their own by the time they're 18.
3.  Have you ever worked out or done any weightlifting?  That crap hurts.  It also builds more muscle, and makes you stronger in the long run.

I don't necessarily agree with this method (doing it on grass would have been fine).  Either you trolled me pretty good, or you're advocating 'kids' never having to do anything that's too hard or that they don't want to do.  Grow up, suffer in silence, and learn that there are times in life where you're going to have to deal with assholes.
Later on, you can Saran Wrap their car, slash their tires, etc...  if you're so put off by it.
 
2013-05-03 09:21:55 AM

I_ROUTE: JungleBoogie: concrete

Pretty sure it is rubberized. That is why their hands were so black like they have been handling tires. If you look at the school's website you can see that it is still a very dark track. Asphalt would become ashy or grey fairly quickly.

LMGTFY: http://www.ihigh.com/cascadecadets/gallery_52495.html


Pussies. In my day we ran on cinder tracks. Guess what happens when you fall in THAT?
 
2013-05-03 09:25:02 AM
I'm reminded of the time, in Junior High, when I was punished by my football coach for not "hustling" to a 40-yard sprint drill, I was doomed to do forward rolls, to the 40 -yard mark and back.

Couldn't walk for a few minutes.

/good times
 
2013-05-03 10:24:21 AM
I'm all for whatever kinds of normal conditioning the coaches want to hand out, including bear crawls, but on the pavement?  That's bullshiat.  Tracks usually go around these funny things called football fields that are made out of GRASS.  Coaches should have made them bear crawl up and down the field til they puked.  Make the coaches each do a bear crawl mile on the pavement and call it a day.

Our football coaches sometimes made us do bear crawls as a finisher.  That shiat will put you on your ass.
 
2013-05-03 10:28:01 AM

Carn: I'm all for whatever kinds of normal conditioning the coaches want to hand out, including bear crawls, but on the pavement?


Wasn't on pavement.  Check the pics posted... its a rubber track.
 
2013-05-03 10:32:04 AM

SmellsLikePoo: Carn: I'm all for whatever kinds of normal conditioning the coaches want to hand out, including bear crawls, but on the pavement?

Wasn't on pavement.  Check the pics posted... its a rubber track.


Rubber will still tear your skin off (obviously).  The conditioning is punishment enough and the coaches should have known better.  Still should have been on the grass.  I still say make the coaches do a mile of it in front of the kids then call it square.
 
2013-05-03 10:37:57 AM
Is this the thread where folks who confuse punishment with conditioning and ignorance with mentorship belittle the kids for not sucking up injuries experienced at the hands of inept coaches? Yes? Sweet!
 
2013-05-03 10:47:00 AM
Another reason aside from the pure sadistic nature that this was a bad idea is doesn't this track team have any throwers?  I threw shot and disc in high school and you can't do either with giant blisters on your hands.  Maybe the coaches left the throwers out of the punishment but considering how stupid this was, I doubt they put that thought into it.
 
2013-05-03 10:53:29 AM
WTF is wrong with people ITT? It is either full of trolls or a bunch of armchair green berets. What these coaches did to these students is deplorable. Me being me when I was in high school, would have refused and told the coaches where to shove it (like you would have found me at track to begin with), but to some of the kids, track is a big deal and could even be how they expect to get scholarship money for college.

FTA: "Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment. "These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.
Students also said the move to remove the coaches would seriously affect their performance at an upcoming track conference and sectionals."

Isn't this the same line of thinking that leads to women stay with boyfriends that beat the brakes off their ass? Dangerous behavior...
"Ohh he loves me. He didn't mean to hurt me. It won't happen again."
Bullshiat.

Shame on the coaches for being such a colossal douche nozzle and in my mind taking advantage of the trust these youths put in to someone.
 
2013-05-03 10:55:13 AM

doglover: and bloody falling on gravel


I didn't know you were from the UK
 
2013-05-03 10:55:14 AM

namegoeshere: liam76: The worst part about the story is that these dumb coaches are teaching these kids that "crab walks" are bear crawls.

They're not. Crab walks are belly up. Bear crawls are ass up. Backwards bear crawls, what these kids did, are bear crawls moving backwards. Feet first. Which is way worse on the hands.


My mistake.

I would rather bear crawl backwards than forwards (if I am concerned about farking up my hands)
 
2013-05-03 10:59:53 AM

DeathCipris: WTF is wrong with people ITT? It is either full of trolls or a bunch of armchair green berets. What these coaches did to these students is deplorable. Me being me when I was in high school, would have refused and told the coaches where to shove it (like you would have found me at track to begin with), but to some of the kids, track is a big deal and could even be how they expect to get scholarship money for college.

FTA: "Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment. "These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.
Students also said the move to remove the coaches would seriously affect their performance at an upcoming track conference and sectionals."

Isn't this the same line of thinking that leads to women stay with boyfriends that beat the brakes off their ass? Dangerous behavior...
"Ohh he loves me. He didn't mean to hurt me. It won't happen again."
Bullshiat.

Shame on the coaches for being such a colossal douche nozzle and in my mind taking advantage of the trust these youths put in to someone.


Obviously these coaches should be put in front of a firing squad for daring to discipline children in a way that could give them blisters. OMG TEH BLISTURS!!!!! DERRRRPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Runners don't whine about blisters because they're not a big farking deal. Ever look at a runner's feet? You won't do it twice. Especially not after a distance run.
 
2013-05-03 11:12:52 AM

UDel_Kitty: While I think making the kids do their bear crawls around the track was a bit harsh (that rubberized track stuff hurts!), so is asking the coaches to resign. We were warned that missing practices would result in some kind of punishment, whether it was extra repeats, or being ineligible to compete in the next meet, but some kids will always be drama queens and slackers. Although, punishment for a doctor's appointment seems rough, perhaps she didn't warn the coaches that she'd be out? If she just told them, "Oh I had a doctor's appointment," the next day, it's understandable that they might not believe her.

Next time, make the kids do their bear crawls up and down the football field, and warn the coaches that punishments should be reasonable. No permanent damage was done, their hands will heal.

/our favorite punishment was when the soccer coach made his guys run our cross country course for losing a game


How dare you bring sense into this???!?

This is Fark, of course.  The news story tells you all you need to know.  Punishment?  For not showing up?  And the widdle snowfwakes got bwisters?  MAN UP, GIRLS!  BLISTERS ARE PART OF SPORT AND SHOWING UP IS PART OF BEING ON THE TEAM!  LIFE AIN'T FAIR!

I have to think there's more to the story.  I know we like to pretend we know better than the whole world, but...   Well, first thing I can think of is that the kid who went to the prom meeting might have said, "Hey, coach, there's a prom meeting during practice.  Is it okay if I go to the meeting instead?" and the coach might have dismissively said, "Yeah", and then forgot.  I'm married to a teacher, they're people too, sometimes they make mistakes and sometimes they forget.  It could be that the kid(s) who had other sporting events have coaches who would dole out even worse punishment for missing.  Yeah, I get the need for discipline but I remember high school and how arbitrary they can be.  I know we see these horror stories but here I am, 20 years out, and my wife tells me the stories about school and it doesn't seem like (locally) school has gotten any worse, or any better.

And...ugh...seriously, guys, I know, Fark, Internet tough guys...I know we like to pretend we had it as rough as our great-grandparents here on Fark, but if you're 40 or younger, you were part of a precious snowflake generation, too.  Yes, really.
 
2013-05-03 11:13:37 AM
I meant to say on that last comment that something seems a little fishy that so much of the team was missing.
 
2013-05-03 11:25:10 AM
As a lacrosse goalie in high school, my coach got frustrated with me and my team one day, and took it out on me.  During my goalie warm up, where the coach shoots at different segments of the goal, he instead just wound up and chucked the ball at me as  hard as he could.

That was not a fun day.
 
2013-05-03 11:28:46 AM
That's pretty bad, but I would still give it to the coaches if it didn't continue to happen with everyone given the punishment.  Seriously, what are you thinking?  One kid with bad blisters, yeah, ok.  But when it gets to be a "thing" and especially when you punish people with valid reasons for not being at practice, there is the line.

These kids will survive.  I was in marching band and oh my god blisters!  I also played cymbals and at one point was hit in the face with one.  I also continually got my knuckles hit by drummers sticks (I'd hold the cymbal out for them to use as a crash).  Things are not always peasant.
 
2013-05-03 11:32:23 AM
 Wow are people really arguing that this is ok?
I wasn't aware that there were so many sociopaths on fark.
Of course it's not about being an internet toughguy  because if it were them then they woould have much more wine on the menu.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-05-03 11:36:27 AM
If some a-hole coach did that to one of my kid's, I'd shove my boot up his shiat pipe!  Oh wait, my kids wouldn't be stupid enough to actually do it.  They would tell that guy to go fark himself.
 
2013-05-03 11:45:03 AM

plewis: But when it gets to be a "thing" and especially when you punish people with valid reasons for not being at practice, there is the line.


My question is if the kids had a valid excuse at the time the punishment came out.

So we have a girl saying she was at a prom planning thing. Did she let the coach know in advance? Did she have proof showing that she was going to be elsewhere? Did a daily email blast go out saying, 'Hey, excuse these kids from practice today because they're going to be at X'? Was there some context involved that isn't mentioned, like season-deciding meet near the end of the year when the coaches explicitly asked everyone to be present so they could get things in order for the event?

Or was this a situation where the kid thought, "Well, I should be at track but this planning meeting sounds fun so I'll just blow it off for today!"?

I'm engaged to a teacher, and I know kids don't always do things like that maliciously, but they DO do it. A lot. And I tend to side with teachers, coaches, and administrators because somewhere in the past 50 years we switched our collective thinking from understanding that kids lie, cheat, steal, and generally screw up, to thinking that all kids are perfect angels with Hawking-esque smarts that the BIG BAD EVIL teachers, coaches, and administrators just want to abuse, belittle, and humiliate.

www.thomastalksoncitrusschools.com
 
2013-05-03 11:52:53 AM
Bear crawls are not torture.  They are difficult to do if the participant is bitter and whining about being picked on due to the sense of entitlement and lack of responsibility developed through continuous coddling.

If they're in track, then they're expected to show up for track.  Will they later be excused from their jobs when they have a golf game or feel the need to go shopping that day?  Sports build physical fitness and responsibility.  All of the kids involved in this incident have now been taught that, if you whine enough, you will not get in trouble.... someone else will.

I love how their linked YouTube video showed BACKWARDS Bear Crawls.  Brilliant.

Next time, make them do duck walks.  Build up those leg muscles.
 
2013-05-03 12:08:58 PM
HypnozombieX:
I wasn't aware that there were so many sociopaths on fark.

Do you actually know what the definition of sociopath is? Here's a hint, someone who instills discipline in a way which increases overall physical health, understanding of action and consequence, a better developed sense of determination, but maybe causes one or two blisters along the way is not a farking sociopath.

Here is a link to the wiki article, featuring the complete DSM definition for you so you don't use that word improperly again.
 
2013-05-03 12:10:52 PM
I had a gym coach make me run laps around a soccer field with a few other people once. I can't recall what I did, probably something like not bringing clothes to change in or failing to give a shiat about whatever sport I was supposed to care about. It was gym class and I wasn't an athelete by any stretch of the means, by then I'd learned that sports were for people who were naturally good at it. Nobody had any interest in someone just wanting to learn or to practice. By the fifth or sixth lap, I decided to start crawling like I'd been in the Sahara farking desert for a week with no water, completing it with mock begging for mercy. Fark her, what's she going to do to me, right? Nothing. It just infruiated her and convinced a few of the people running laps with me to engage in the melodramatic display of the complete pansification of youth. On the downside, I really looked ridiculous and like a complete asshat. On the upside, I never had to run laps again.
 
2013-05-03 12:32:05 PM
I mocked my track coach ONCE. After practice, he made me run 110 hurdles until I was so was so weak that I was running through the hurdles instead of over them, just to set them back up and do it again. This went on until I fell on my face and damn near passed out and puked. As I laid there dizzy and puking, I found out why he liked coaching 9th grade boys track.... Needless to say, I never considered mocking a coach again.

/stay away from church based private schools
 
2013-05-03 12:34:26 PM

jennies1897: I had a gym coach make me run laps around a soccer field with a few other people once. I can't recall what I did, probably something like not bringing clothes to change in or failing to give a shiat about whatever sport I was supposed to care about. It was gym class


Gym class isn't an athletic sport.
 
2013-05-03 12:42:09 PM

GoodOmens: Ah I sometimes miss our "Fun Runs" - basically running for about 4~6 miles in a single file like passing a 10 pound medicine ball over our heads to the person behind us.  When it gets to the back the person sprints to the front and starts over.

/Only sometimes


I'd forgotten about that, thanks for those memories back >.>
 
2013-05-03 12:45:00 PM
I keep forgetting that fark is full of people who got notes excusing them from PE classes because of their sensitivities.
 
2013-05-03 12:46:08 PM

badscooter: jennies1897: I had a gym coach make me run laps around a soccer field with a few other people once. I can't recall what I did, probably something like not bringing clothes to change in or failing to give a shiat about whatever sport I was supposed to care about. It was gym class

Gym class isn't an athletic sport.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-03 12:58:13 PM
The ITGs are hilarious, as always. The shiat is 100% ok so long as it is being done to someone else's children, however if someone did it to them they'd be screaming bloody murder.

So ask yourself ITGs who say this is good and build character: Would you be ok with being forced to do this if you missed a meeting at work (or probably more accurately a WoW raid, given the ITG crowd), because you had another work activity? Would you just say "Yep, I deserved it, I should have made this my highest priority, despite having other things to do. The bruises and blisters and well earned?" I'm thinking not. I'm guess you'd wail, scream, call the police, cry discrimination, and so on about how extremely unfair and so on this was.

If there is a punishment you aren't ok with as an adult, then it really isn't an ok punishment for kids. The adult world has more serious consequences, not less.
 
2013-05-03 01:03:34 PM

sycraft: The ITGs are hilarious, as always. The shiat is 100% ok so long as it is being done to someone else's children, however if someone did it to them they'd be screaming bloody murder.

So ask yourself ITGs who say this is good and build character: Would you be ok with being forced to do this if you missed a meeting at work (or probably more accurately a WoW raid, given the ITG crowd), because you had another work activity? Would you just say "Yep, I deserved it, I should have made this my highest priority, despite having other things to do. The bruises and blisters and well earned?" I'm thinking not. I'm guess you'd wail, scream, call the police, cry discrimination, and so on about how extremely unfair and so on this was.

If there is a punishment you aren't ok with as an adult, then it really isn't an ok punishment for kids. The adult world has more serious consequences, not less.


You realize some of us actually did this in track, right? And no, it didn't kill us.
 
2013-05-03 01:21:16 PM

scubamage: DeathCipris: WTF is wrong with people ITT? It is either full of trolls or a bunch of armchair green berets. What these coaches did to these students is deplorable. Me being me when I was in high school, would have refused and told the coaches where to shove it (like you would have found me at track to begin with), but to some of the kids, track is a big deal and could even be how they expect to get scholarship money for college.

FTA: "Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment. "These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.
Students also said the move to remove the coaches would seriously affect their performance at an upcoming track conference and sectionals."

Isn't this the same line of thinking that leads to women stay with boyfriends that beat the brakes off their ass? Dangerous behavior...
"Ohh he loves me. He didn't mean to hurt me. It won't happen again."
Bullshiat.

Shame on the coaches for being such a colossal douche nozzle and in my mind taking advantage of the trust these youths put in to someone.

Obviously these coaches should be put in front of a firing squad for daring to discipline children in a way that could give them blisters. OMG TEH BLISTURS!!!!! DERRRRPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Runners don't whine about blisters because they're not a big farking deal. Ever look at a runner's feet? You won't do it twice. Especially not after a distance run.


I'm a distance runner. Blisters are a sign of ill-fitting shoes and/or socks.
 
2013-05-03 01:35:30 PM

scubamage: You realize some of us actually did this in track, right? And no, it didn't kill us.


If the standard is "it didn't kill me" then there's an awful lot that is ok by that standard. But again I reiterate: Are you ok with a meeting organizer making you do bear crawls until your hands bleed because you missed that meeting at work? If not, why not? Why is it ok to do something more harsh to kids but not adults?
 
2013-05-03 01:55:36 PM

jayphat: I_ROUTE: JungleBoogie: concrete

Pretty sure it is rubberized. That is why their hands were so black like they have been handling tires. If you look at the school's website you can see that it is still a very dark track. Asphalt would become ashy or grey fairly quickly.

LMGTFY: http://www.ihigh.com/cascadecadets/gallery_52495.html

Pussies. In my day we ran on cinder tracks. Guess what happens when you fall in THAT?


This?
a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2013-05-03 02:06:11 PM

I_ROUTE: jayphat: I_ROUTE: JungleBoogie: concrete

Pretty sure it is rubberized. That is why their hands were so black like they have been handling tires. If you look at the school's website you can see that it is still a very dark track. Asphalt would become ashy or grey fairly quickly.

LMGTFY: http://www.ihigh.com/cascadecadets/gallery_52495.html

Pussies. In my day we ran on cinder tracks. Guess what happens when you fall in THAT?

This?
[a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com image 600x450]


farking ow.  Looks like a good 15 stitches.  I bet that left a nice stain.
 
2013-05-03 02:06:31 PM

SmellsLikePoo: mainstreet62: In this thread: Plenty of idiots that don't have kids, and therefore don't fully understand the consequences of these actions.

The coaches should be fired, and anyone telling the kids to man up should have their heads examined for brain damage.

What sports did you participate in?  Competitive crocheting?


I didn't participate in high school sports because of jock assholes like you. My kids, however, are participating.

They get their bumps, cuts, and bruises. One had a partial tear on her MCL.

High school sports, from my point of view, has a subculture of stupid coaches, which is why I avoided all that crap. I played sports outside of school.

scubamage: Also in this thread: self righteous toolbags who think their way of parenting (being overly protective and trying to cover kids in bubblewrap) is perfect and everyone else is wrong for thinking a few scrapes isn't really a big deal.


Yes, it is self righteous to worry about your kids getting hurt, moron. I let them play sports despite my personal objections to it because that's what they want.

I never said anyone was wrong thinking a few bruises isn't a big deal. The big deal is when some stupid farking asshole coach tries to take my place and does shiat that only impacts my kids negatively.

Are you a coach? Because that would explain a LOT.
 
2013-05-03 02:32:52 PM

Nogale: scubamage: DeathCipris: WTF is wrong with people ITT? It is either full of trolls or a bunch of armchair green berets. What these coaches did to these students is deplorable. Me being me when I was in high school, would have refused and told the coaches where to shove it (like you would have found me at track to begin with), but to some of the kids, track is a big deal and could even be how they expect to get scholarship money for college.

FTA: "Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment. "These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.
Students also said the move to remove the coaches would seriously affect their performance at an upcoming track conference and sectionals."

Isn't this the same line of thinking that leads to women stay with boyfriends that beat the brakes off their ass? Dangerous behavior...
"Ohh he loves me. He didn't mean to hurt me. It won't happen again."
Bullshiat.

Shame on the coaches for being such a colossal douche nozzle and in my mind taking advantage of the trust these youths put in to someone.

Obviously these coaches should be put in front of a firing squad for daring to discipline children in a way that could give them blisters. OMG TEH BLISTURS!!!!! DERRRRPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Runners don't whine about blisters because they're not a big farking deal. Ever look at a runner's feet? You won't do it twice. Especially not after a distance run.

I'm a distance runner. Blisters are a sign of ill-fitting shoes and/or socks.


Sadly I don't have too many options - I have super wide feet (beyond quad E width), and even in Brooks (the most accomodating) it seems the shoes always end up having some extra room in them. I've had several nails turn black and fall off because of hitting the front of shoes constantly (usually a worse problem on courses with looooooong downhills. Been to 4 different running stores, no one has been able to fix it.

sycraft: scubamage: You realize some of us actually did this in track, right? And no, it didn't kill us.

If the standard is "it didn't kill me" then there's an awful lot that is ok by that standard. But again I reiterate: Are you ok with a meeting organizer making you do bear crawls until your hands bleed because you missed that meeting at work? If not, why not? Why is it ok to do something more harsh to kids but not adults?


About the only way those two things are equivalent is if I am a professional sports player, and then yes I would have no issue with it, since I would have signed on to a career where it is understood that discipline can take the form of physical exercise. Just like when I signed up to the high school sports team.  I would have no issue with it, nor should anyone in the stadium/training ground since they all know that that is how athletes train and discipline one another. There is no difference between this and "go run 10 laps" or "drop and give me 50." The downside is this one caused blisters.

But that situation can't be compared to a meeting. First, we have no track. Second, it's not acceptable in the office context. The kids weren't in an office, they were on a sports team. To match context, it would be like my boss telling me I have to work a long shift on the weekend because I blew off work on tuesday. And I have no problem with that, especially if they were counting on me to be there and I farked them over.

Your comparison is false equality because the context is entirely different. See false analogy.
 
2013-05-03 02:38:32 PM

mainstreet62: SmellsLikePoo: mainstreet62: In this thread: Plenty of idiots that don't have kids, and therefore don't fully understand the consequences of these actions.

The coaches should be fired, and anyone telling the kids to man up should have their heads examined for brain damage.

What sports did you participate in?  Competitive crocheting?

I didn't participate in high school sports because of jock assholes like you. My kids, however, are participating.

They get their bumps, cuts, and bruises. One had a partial tear on her MCL.

High school sports, from my point of view, has a subculture of stupid coaches, which is why I avoided all that crap. I played sports outside of school.

scubamage: Also in this thread: self righteous toolbags who think their way of parenting (being overly protective and trying to cover kids in bubblewrap) is perfect and everyone else is wrong for thinking a few scrapes isn't really a big deal.

Yes, it is self righteous to worry about your kids getting hurt, moron. I let them play sports despite my personal objections to it because that's what they want.

I never said anyone was wrong thinking a few bruises isn't a big deal. The big deal is when some stupid farking asshole coach tries to take my place and does shiat that only impacts my kids negatively.

Are you a coach? Because that would explain a LOT.


Nope, I'm an ex-fat kid who realized that all of my biatching about coaches and sports was pointless elitism and sour grapes to make up for the fact that I was a fatass. Then I grew up and I got over it, and I figured it was time to try it out. I joined up with track (specifically as a thrower), and even though I sucked and got my ass kicked a little bit by the coach, I got better. Then I dropped around 150 pounds and started running. Yes, I got disciplined, and I am a stronger, better person for it.

The fact that you actually have objections to your kids participating in physical activities... wow. Just wow.
 
2013-05-03 04:00:51 PM

Skanque: As a lacrosse goalie in high school, my coach got frustrated with me and my team one day, and took it out on me.  During my goalie warm up, where the coach shoots at different segments of the goal, he instead just wound up and chucked the ball at me as  hard as he could.

That was not a fun day.


The lawsuit you should have filed would've been an awesome day.
 
2013-05-03 04:06:50 PM
The part that gets me about this story is that the kids were practicing! That sounds like they were going to COMPETE in a race where some of the kids would LOSE! I thought we had banned competition in case some kids feelings got hurt. They should have all the kids run around the track but then the kids in front should stop right before the finish line and wait for everyone else so they can cross the line TOGETHER! This is why we have school shootings.
 
2013-05-03 04:18:08 PM

Fano: tlchwi02: I had coaches whup on me for years, and I never had a blister the size of a squids eye on my hands. this is creepy

I'm puzzled by two things here: one, is a backwards bear crawl like doing a crab walk... and two, how did these kids do whatever this is to the point of the injury in the picture? I mean, the blisters look like they tried to grab the headpiece to the staff of Ra. I mean, wouldn't self preservation kick in? These kids must be hard core.


My guess is the coach threatened them with something like an automatic fail if they didn't finish.  Depending on if this is a formal class, or if extracurricular activities have an impact on GPA, that can be a pretty serious motivator.  Most track kids aren't the type that don't care about their grades, and failing a class at all can mean not being able to graduate, etc.

Anyway, I'm on the "coaches were assholes and should have known better" side of the fence.  FTFA: One girl had a doctor's appointment and she was told she had to do four laps. In other words, "how DARE you make an appointment to see a medical professional when I expect you to be here at an arbitrary time for practice of an activity that will not matter beyond high school.  THIS UNDERMINES MY AUTHORITY." Yeah, that's not a deserved punishment, that's power tripping.
 
2013-05-03 04:22:45 PM

Mimic_Octopus: QT_3.14159: I think the workout is a great idea and a good punishment (though I'm not sure it should apply to someone with a Dr's appt).  Next time they should just supply work gloves for those who do them.

first of all, no kids really need doctors appointments. it is just some bullshiat excuse to skip something.  if you are sick, you go to a doctor and miss a week. no one is ever, NEVER, sick for one day, and you dont go to doctors unless you are sick, really sick, not just flu or cold.   That said, if this biatch really had a reason to go to a doctor, WHAT THE fark IS SHE EVEN DOING AT PRACTICE ? damn, western civilization is turning, has turned, intoa bunch of whining pussies.


I know this is a rather blatant troll, but I have the perfect response for this.

One word: ladytrouble.
 
2013-05-03 04:36:51 PM

tukatz: I love how their linked YouTube video showed BACKWARDS Bear Crawls. Brilliant.


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-05-03 04:39:40 PM

scubamage: DeathCipris: WTF is wrong with people ITT? It is either full of trolls or a bunch of armchair green berets. What these coaches did to these students is deplorable. Me being me when I was in high school, would have refused and told the coaches where to shove it (like you would have found me at track to begin with), but to some of the kids, track is a big deal and could even be how they expect to get scholarship money for college.

FTA: "Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment. "These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.
Students also said the move to remove the coaches would seriously affect their performance at an upcoming track conference and sectionals."

Isn't this the same line of thinking that leads to women stay with boyfriends that beat the brakes off their ass? Dangerous behavior...
"Ohh he loves me. He didn't mean to hurt me. It won't happen again."
Bullshiat.

Shame on the coaches for being such a colossal douche nozzle and in my mind taking advantage of the trust these youths put in to someone.

Obviously these coaches should be put in front of a firing squad for daring to discipline children in a way that could give them blisters. OMG TEH BLISTURS!!!!! DERRRRPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Runners don't whine about blisters because they're not a big farking deal. Ever look at a runner's feet? You won't do it twice. Especially not after a distance run.


I think you missed the point. These blisters were on their hands, not their feet. How bout you go run 4 laps like that like these students did?
My money is on you wussing out by the 2nd lap, ITG.
As for me, I am smart enough to stay the hell away from it and stick by my guns that these coaches were douche nozzles.
 
2013-05-03 05:38:48 PM
I'M not even allowed to do that to my kid... CPS would be all up my ass in half a heartbeat.  I'll be goddamned if I let some farking gym coach do this to them... these morons were forunate that a parent or two didn't show up afterwards for some "batting practice".
 
2013-05-03 06:11:50 PM

scubamage: sup philly

mainstreet62: I didn't participate in high school sports because of jock assholes like you. My kids, however, are participating.


I can't really buy your excuse about sports; there are so many sports available, and each one draws a different kind of person.  Some sports are more conducive for introverted type, like x-country or track or swimming, others are heavy on the teams, by each one has its own flavor and community.  If you missed out on this, it is too bad... kids need to learn about more than just academics to lead fulfilled lives.  I'm glad your bad experiences haven't stopped you from letting your kids enjoy sports.

And that would certainly be the first time I was described as a jock asshole.  I found out that by working hard and dedicating my time and efforts to a sport, I got better and stronger... but by no means was i a big jock.  I was the honor student science nerd.
 
2013-05-04 01:02:18 AM
I fail to see how some stupid high school track medals or ribbons would be worth having your hands rubbed raw as punishment for missing a practice session because you had a doctors appointment. You grow up and get to the real world, and realize nobody gives a shiat about the things you did in high school. It's too bad these teenagers' lack of perspective would lead them to tolerate stuff like this. It's like how that story about that teenage worker who was forced to strip by her manager at McDonalds after someone falsely accused her of stealing. She didn't have to do that. He wasn't a cop. He was just some shiat who worked at McDonalds. But because he was an authority figure, she simply obeyed him because she was too young to know any better. She didn't have the perspective to realize that she could have just stormed out the door, and losing her McJob wouldn't mean much of anything.
 
2013-05-04 01:10:29 AM

Fano: tlchwi02: I had coaches whup on me for years, and I never had a blister the size of a squids eye on my hands. this is creepy

I'm puzzled by two things here: one, is a backwards bear crawl like doing a crab walk... and two, how did these kids do whatever this is to the point of the injury in the picture? I mean, the blisters look like they tried to grab the headpiece to the staff of Ra. I mean, wouldn't self preservation kick in? These kids must be hard core.


I think at that point it was a matter of peer [and coaches] pressure.. you are already being punished for not showing up at the previous meet.. if you say 'fark it!' the punishment might get worse or you might get kicked out of the track team
 
2013-05-04 01:22:12 AM

Atomic Spunk: sendtodave: Atomic Spunk: When I played sports in high school, you know how we separated the boys from the men? With crowbars.

You had to pry the men off of the boys?

I know my joke is a failure when I have to explain the punch line.


it was hilarious!!
 
2013-05-04 01:26:13 AM

CowardlyLion: Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: Most of the track team members, though, said they stand by the same coaches who doled out a painful punishment.

"These coaches care about us so much. They didn't intend for this at all," said Solik.

(*sigh*) If these kids really believe this nonsense, then they got what they deserved.

Word. Kids should be born with enough inborn knowledge to be cynical and possess deeply-rooted mistrust of everyone. If they failed to be born with all of this experiential knowledge, then they obviously deserve any and all harm and mistreatment for not having previously known better. Just like all victims of abuse and violence. ...am I doing it right?

/it's hard blaming victims, but someone's gotta be brave enough to do it


First of all, they're high school kids in the 21st century. They should already have some level of cynicism at this point.

Secondly, after what they went through, it should simply be a matter of common sense that something isn't right about what the coaches did.

I'm more inclined to think that the kids are backing up the coaches actions because of peer pressure more than anything else. Nobody wants to be seen as a pussy in this situation.

The injuries are real. This was abuse, plain and simple. The coaches should be fired. The school can always get more coaches.
 
2013-05-04 12:38:20 PM

bingethinker: Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.


hehehe. I dunno ,my sophmore science teacher was a pretty cool guy and he also taught wrestling I think.
 
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