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(Washington Post)   Remember how global warming would cause violent weather outbreaks? Tornado activity in the US was at a record low in 2012 since records started being kept six decades ago   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 282
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2013-05-02 07:06:23 PM
#Achillies would like a word, subby.
 
2013-05-02 07:14:01 PM
Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

www.realscience.us

www.rushlane.com
 
2013-05-02 07:42:42 PM

Cyberluddite: Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

[www.realscience.us image 630x420]

[www.rushlane.com image 640x480]


Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather
 
2013-05-02 07:51:02 PM
rofl
 
2013-05-02 07:52:20 PM
Please pay no attention to last year's drought.
 
2013-05-02 07:53:00 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather


This.

Plus, if bad weather isn't happening right now it doesn't count. That's why global warming doesn't exist during the winter.
 
2013-05-02 07:53:12 PM
Tell that to the folks in Alabama, I bet they'll feel better knowing that.
 
2013-05-02 07:53:29 PM
weather ≠ climate
 
2013-05-02 07:53:53 PM

Pituophis: Please pay no attention to last year's drought.


Last years drought was bad but the one the year before was just as bad.
 
2013-05-02 07:54:27 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Cyberluddite: Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

[www.realscience.us image 630x420]

[www.rushlane.com image 640x480]

Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather


They're not the only type, but they are the sexiest type.
 
2013-05-02 07:56:30 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Cyberluddite: Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

[www.realscience.us image 630x420]

[www.rushlane.com image 640x480]

Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accumulated_Cyclone_Energy

PANIC!!!
no wait
boring
 
2013-05-02 07:56:46 PM
I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.
 
2013-05-02 07:56:53 PM
www.imperfectparent.com

Indiana March 3 2012
 
2013-05-02 07:58:57 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather


Plus, this sort of thing kept happening all winter:

images.wjla.com

And we all know that there can't be any global warming because so much snow has been falling, amirite?!?
 
2013-05-02 08:01:50 PM

violentsalvation: I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.


I thought they meant eXtreme weather, like a tornado that can grind a rail.

/how many degrees does a hurricane pull? 3600000?
 
2013-05-02 08:02:43 PM

violentsalvation: I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.


And in that vein, areas of the southwest are going to set record cold temps tonight. Parts of Albuquerque could freeze. They are also in a record-setting drought, and currently the worst in the nation.
 
2013-05-02 08:07:05 PM
Around this time last year, we had 17 tornadoes in one day.
 
2013-05-02 08:08:12 PM

nmrsnr: violentsalvation: I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.

I thought they meant eXtreme weather, like a tornado that can grind a rail.

/how many degrees does a hurricane pull? 3600000?


lol they probably call it eXtreme on The Weather Chanel.
 
2013-05-02 08:09:07 PM

texdent: Around this time last year, we had 17 tornadoes in one day.


Yeah, but that was ONE day, so it only counts as one.
 
2013-05-02 08:09:11 PM
And the channels are running dry.
 
2013-05-02 08:16:51 PM
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/severeweather/tornadoes.html#hist o ry

oh look
more YAWN

"Droughts are periodic, alternating with floods over a series of years. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_the_United_States:_1901-2000

even more YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
 
2013-05-02 08:17:30 PM
i woke to two inches of snow here, so i'd say that counts for some odd weather for may 2nd.
 
2013-05-02 08:26:24 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Cyberluddite: Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

[www.realscience.us image 630x420]

[www.rushlane.com image 640x480]

Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather


Plus tornadoes only happen in Reel 'Murica! Hurricanes and blizzards happen to elites on the coast and Aspen ski lodges.
 
2013-05-02 08:51:36 PM

violentsalvation: violentsalvation: I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.

And in that vein, areas of the southwest are going to set record cold temps tonight. Parts of Albuquerque could freeze. They are also in a record-setting drought, and currently the worst in the nation.


This. Our last snows for the winter have been in May for the last 3 years. Last night was 28 degrees. We're now running our pellet stove 6 months a year, and our cooler (which we didn't even need when I was a kid), for the other 6. We're getting more like Phoenix, where spring and fall are almost nonexistent.
 
2013-05-02 09:21:33 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather


They're not the only type of violet weather, but they're tied for the most destructive. See, "tornado" has 3 syllables. Some people have posted pictures of "floods" (1 syllable), "droughts" (1 syllable), and "snowstorms" (2 syllables) in this thread, which are certainly types of violent weather, but none of them is quite as violent, syllablically speaking, as a tornado. The other 3-syllable type of violent weather, of course, is a "hurricane," but this year was actually quite mild, hurricane speaking. So when you figure that both of the most syllabically violent weather systems were significantly lower this year than previous years, it's enough to make one seriously doubt this entire "global warming/climate change/demon goat/whatever the current en-vogue term is" cult of destruction that the media is so fond of bandying about.
 
2013-05-02 09:22:12 PM
"Subby Totally Owned... now in progress..."
 
2013-05-02 09:28:25 PM
And of course one metric in one country is conclusive evidence. Of something.

About Subby.
 
2013-05-02 09:29:05 PM
That was predicted to occur specifically in 2012, too, wasn't it?
 
2013-05-02 09:30:08 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: violentsalvation: violentsalvation: I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.

And in that vein, areas of the southwest are going to set record cold temps tonight. Parts of Albuquerque could freeze. They are also in a record-setting drought, and currently the worst in the nation.

This. Our last snows for the winter have been in May for the last 3 years. Last night was 28 degrees. We're now running our pellet stove 6 months a year, and our cooler (which we didn't even need when I was a kid), for the other 6. We're getting more like Phoenix, where spring and fall are almost nonexistent.


That's actually incorrect, while it's been ten years since I been there, Phoenix has two seasons. Fall and BLAZING HOT.  It doesn't get cold enough to snow/ice in Phoenix.  There is an actual incremental climb/decrease. And Hot really isn't that hot  after you've been there a while.
 
2013-05-02 09:44:16 PM

Darth_Lukecash: ecmoRandomNumbers: violentsalvation: violentsalvation: I thought global warming/climate change was to cause weather extremes. A million tornadoes an hour for an entire year, or a record scarcity of them would both be extremes.

And in that vein, areas of the southwest are going to set record cold temps tonight. Parts of Albuquerque could freeze. They are also in a record-setting drought, and currently the worst in the nation.

This. Our last snows for the winter have been in May for the last 3 years. Last night was 28 degrees. We're now running our pellet stove 6 months a year, and our cooler (which we didn't even need when I was a kid), for the other 6. We're getting more like Phoenix, where spring and fall are almost nonexistent.

That's actually incorrect, while it's been ten years since I been there, Phoenix has two seasons. Fall and BLAZING HOT.  It doesn't get cold enough to snow/ice in Phoenix.  There is an actual incremental climb/decrease. And Hot really isn't that hot  after you've been there a while.


In 2007 we almost lost our rubber tree (huge tree, lost all the leaves) and we lost all our bougainvilleas in the Arcadia neighborhood. We had like 5 days of 20-degree weather. I was loving it. It was nice going out in fashion, instead of shorts and sandals.
 
2013-05-02 09:48:11 PM

Darth_Lukecash: It doesn't get cold enough to snow/ice in Phoenix.


Oh, and it did snow in Tucson and Phoenix a couple months ago. I moved out of Phoenix in 2009. I've lived in the White Mountains of AZ half my life and the rest in Phoenix and Tucson.
 
2013-05-02 09:55:57 PM

FlashHarry: i woke to two inches of snow here, so i'd say that counts for some odd weather for may 2nd.


There's a freeze warning west of the metroplex tonight (D/FW). Beating
 
2013-05-02 09:58:39 PM

wxboy: Peter von Nostrand: Cyberluddite: Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

[www.realscience.us image 630x420]

[www.rushlane.com image 640x480]

Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather

They're not the only type, but they are the sexiest type.


static.wix.com
 
2013-05-02 10:00:51 PM
We saw snow in Raleigh this year for half a night in February, and it's cold and rainy tonight, therefore Global Warming is a myth made up by liberal scientists. Look at the statisticals. Study it out.
 
2013-05-02 10:15:16 PM

FlashHarry: weather ≠ climate


FlashHarry: weather ≠ climate

 
2013-05-02 10:26:34 PM
It's snowing in the Midwest in May, how's your global warming witchhunt now libtard sheeple LOL ZOMG!
 
2013-05-02 11:07:19 PM

Notabunny: FlashHarry: weather ≠ climate

FlashHarry: weather ≠ climate


this
more this
ONLY THIS

but let's pretend that cyclical droughts and floods are somehow a sign of climate change, rather than
cyclical

let's pretend that a big hurricane is proof of something
and those tornadoes, which are proof that there are tornados, well that just clinches it !!!

OMG SNOW in MAY!!
 
2013-05-02 11:22:22 PM
In fairness, the worst thing that Al Gore did was popularize the word "global warming" when talking about climate change.

It's not about worse, or better, warmer or colder weather, it is about systemic changes in weather cycles, which can lead not to simple disasters, but changes in storm patterns, dry and wet seasons, the ability to model these changes in the long term, and the systemic changes can mean that what are now fertile areas are going to experience changes, and the folks who have invested in these areas are going to be SOL.

Some areas are going to see changes that they may like. A lot of folks who have been literally betting the farm on weather patterns for their crops, they may actually want to pay attention. It isn't about "better" or "worse" but the patterns changing to the point where folks cannot expect things to remain the same--and if you happen to be looking at real estate as an investment, this is sort of important. If you are looking at agribusiness, this is sort of important. If you have any seasonal portion to your income stream, this is sort of important. If you are looking to retire to sunny climes, this is sort of important.

It doesn't mean disaster. It means change. And when folks are betting their livelihoods on such patterns, it is important to understand what these changes can mean. Especially when you look at agriculture, fishing, and water issues. Phoenix has the most golf courses per capita of any US metro area. Gorgeous suckers too. Reliant on water piped in, and if that water flow changes, then Phoenix is boned. Not just for the golf courses, but the few crops that they do bring in, and certainly for the folks who've retired there. It will become a ghost town, and land will be CHEEP which means a lot of folks who sunk a fair amount of cash out there in real estate can expect catastrophic losses. This isn't just about hippies and scientists, it will have very real, demonstrable economic repercussions, and the sooner folks stop nailing their hands to their foreheads and actually LOOK at the issues, and the possible consequences, the sooner we can better model these changes, and prepare for them.

Because it's not just about disasters, but fundamental changes to the seasons, and their effects across a wide swath. It's not "warming" or "cooling" but change, and that will mean a LOT of flux in markets, it will mean areas that are expecting X amount of rainfall, are going to possibly get Y or Z amount, and if you have money in those areas, and are banking on X amount, then you may find serious problems with your bottom line, and if you don't, then the folks who DO, and who you rely on as customers, it behooves you to get your head out of tochis and actually think on the issue a bit.
 
2013-05-02 11:25:28 PM
OOooh! I bet religious people prayed some of the tornadoes away... I bet that's what happened.
 
2013-05-02 11:26:00 PM
I had the air conditioning on yesterday as it was close to 80 degrees. Today it snowed and I had to turn the furnace back on. It is 36 degrees right now.
 
2013-05-02 11:27:50 PM
This long period of calm surely portends additional calm to follow.
 
2013-05-02 11:28:13 PM
Feb last year, half my city got destroyed and 3 trees slammed through the house by a tornado.
 
2013-05-02 11:29:13 PM
Remember how global warming would cause violent weather outbreaks? Tornado activity in the US

The USA is what percentage of the globe, again?
 
2013-05-02 11:29:30 PM
it's snowing right now here in Kansas City. In May. Has been most of the day.
 
2013-05-02 11:29:30 PM

namatad: Notabunny: FlashHarry: weather ≠ climate

FlashHarry: weather ≠ climate

this
more this
ONLY THIS

but let's pretend that cyclical droughts and floods are somehow a sign of climate change, rather than
cyclical

let's pretend that a big hurricane is proof of something
and those tornadoes, which are proof that there are tornados, well that just clinches it !!!

OMG SNOW in MAY!!


Denying science and relying on AM radio talking points won't change the fact that the climate is changing, and man is contributing to it.
 
2013-05-02 11:29:33 PM

JohnnyC: OOooh! I bet religious people prayed some of the tornadoes away... I bet that's what happened.


Nah, midwesterners are just stopped having gay sex.
 
2013-05-02 11:29:50 PM

Cyberluddite: Peter von Nostrand: Oh please. Everyone knows tornadoes are the only type of violent weather

Plus, this sort of thing kept happening all winter:

[images.wjla.com image 606x404]

And we all know that there can't be any global warming because so much snow has been falling, amirite?!?


Up here in Winterpeg, we just broke a 100 year record for coldest April
 
2013-05-02 11:30:59 PM

Cyberluddite:

Yep, no violent weather in the U.S. at all last year, totally calm year.  Sure, there was that little tiny bit of breezy, damp weather in the Northeast last fall . . . but that doesn't count, right?

[www.realscience.us image 630x420]

[www.rushlane.com image 640x480]


It only counts as ONE storm, and NOT a tornado. Nobody mentioned "totally calm," either, FFS. The horrible increases in violent weather, especially tornadoes, has not materialized; just the opposite has happened, in fact.  Do you not understand the concept of "record low tornadoes?"  You point to one hurricane, and post this crap?
 
2013-05-02 11:31:09 PM

Alicious: I had the air conditioning on yesterday as it was close to 80 degrees. Today it snowed and I had to turn the furnace back on. It is 36 degrees right now.


You're experiencing a Spring Cold Front.  Exxon-Mobil invented them in 1973, and they MUST be stopped.
 
2013-05-02 11:31:43 PM
Seaports are farked, long-term, as they always are, over time.
 
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