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(Outside Online)   Conservationist says fracking operation near national park makes night sky "look like 'Blade Runner'" due to massive gas flares, attack ships on fire off shoulder of Orion   (outsideonline.com) divider line 90
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2013-05-02 07:14:24 PM  
is it fair to say she's seen things you people wouldnt believe?
 
2013-05-02 07:18:36 PM  
McMurray....

graphics8.nytimes.com

...let me tell you about McMurray
 
2013-05-02 07:22:13 PM  
I want more natural gas, Father.

/has no idea why they changed that line to say "farker" in the original cut
 
2013-05-02 07:27:12 PM  
I want more gas, fracker.
 
2013-05-02 07:27:51 PM  

jake_lex: I want more natural gas, Father.

/has no idea why they changed that line to say "farker" in the original cut


Dammit!
 
2013-05-02 07:28:05 PM  

jake_lex: I want more natural gas, Father.


Well, eat more Taco Bell then.
 
2013-05-02 07:28:24 PM  
The original article uses the word "smelt" instead of "smelled". You're fired.
 
2013-05-02 07:32:05 PM  
Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2013-05-02 07:32:07 PM  
Well apart from Rachel, the gas flares were the best part of the night time scenery
 
2013-05-02 07:32:16 PM  
You don't flare off gas while fracking
 
2013-05-02 07:32:33 PM  
See? SEE?

I shouldn't have missed that fracking question.

/send Six to my room to "correct" me
 
2013-05-02 07:35:06 PM  
I guess having a picture of said blade runner view would be too tough.
 
2013-05-02 07:35:14 PM  
wodumedia.com

It isn't fracking it is these guys
 
2013-05-02 07:36:06 PM  

LiquidTester: You don't flare off gas while fracking


Nope, you most certainly don't. But lets sit back and watch a thread full of people who wouldn't know a proppant from a propeller. It's just more entertaining this way.
 
2013-05-02 07:36:26 PM  

Livingroom: is it fair to say she's seen things you people wouldnt believe?


I've seen things..seen them with my eyes.
 
2013-05-02 07:36:30 PM  
Enjoyed the headline and adticle. This isnt anything new and isnt specific to fracking. I went to the university of rochester in the late 80s and one of the few pleasures of going to college in upstate new york at a 60% male or more school was that the bars of Toronto were reasonably close. The drive involved going by some massive gas/oil facilities and i remember waking up in a drunken stupor early one morning on the way home, looking out the window, and yup....looked just like the begining of blade runner. No flying cars, but my vision was blurry enough that it was a good approximation.
 
2013-05-02 07:38:24 PM  
Am I the only one who learned what "fracking" is from that science quiz like 10 threads back?
 
2013-05-02 07:38:29 PM  
It's too late now, you can't stop the beast we created. Even if we cut consumption, that just means more to export.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/297205-moodys-us-natural-ga s- exports-would-benefit-asia-europe
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-05-02 07:39:02 PM  
I went to Theodore Roosevelt National Park last year and didn't see a trace of oil drilling, except possibly for more truck traffic than would be normal in the middle of nowhere. But I didn't camp out in the park at night.

What I want to know is how we reconcile all the gas flaring with CO2-reducing national policies.
 
2013-05-02 07:39:13 PM  
Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

www.marcellusprotest.org
 
2013-05-02 07:39:19 PM  
That breaks my heart.  I spent a year working near Teddy Roosevelt (North Unit).  Beautiful country up there.
 
2013-05-02 07:43:17 PM  

ZAZ: I went to Theodore Roosevelt National Park last year and didn't see a trace of oil drilling, except possibly for more truck traffic than would be normal in the middle of nowhere. But I didn't camp out in the park at night.


They mostly come out at night, mostly.

Seriously.  I made a rare trip out at 2:30 in the morning a few months ago, and the fracking trucks were everywhere.  Convoys of them.  I'm sure they're using the cover of darkness to dispose of all that contaminated water in a safe manner.
 
2013-05-02 07:43:35 PM  

eatin' fetus: LiquidTester: You don't flare off gas while fracking

Nope, you most certainly don't. But lets sit back and watch a thread full of people who wouldn't know a proppant from a propeller. It's just more entertaining this way.


I admit I don't know the logistics of this particular area, but where there's gas there's flaring.

ND is trying to give incentives for companies to not flare it off:
http://www.shalereporter.com/government/article_3cbd3b84-aae4-11e2-a 67 b-001a4bcf6878.html

I have to laugh at giving the filthy rich companies that already control the world additional incentives to not destroy it too quickly.
 
2013-05-02 07:44:02 PM  

ZAZ: I went to Theodore Roosevelt National Park last year and didn't see a trace of oil drilling, except possibly for more truck traffic than would be normal in the middle of nowhere. But I didn't camp out in the park at night.

What I want to know is how we reconcile all the gas flaring with CO2-reducing national policies.


It's North Dakota. I can guarantee you they want nothing to do with CO2-reducing policies, since they think global warming is a myth made up by Satan-worshipping communists to destroy America.
 
2013-05-02 07:45:25 PM  
On the 405, the South Bay and Long Beach areas of LA County.  Plenty of refineries for miles.  Wouldn't be surprised if that was where they took the shots for the opening sequence of Blade Runner.

Very pretty at night. Sort of like watching c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate.
 
2013-05-02 07:45:37 PM  
Law should say you have to capture every farking molecule of fuel and store it for later use prior to drilling one CM.
Idiots.
Idiocracy.
 
2013-05-02 07:46:30 PM  
Let me think, eye sore or old people freezing to death in the winter. On one hand I love pissing off people who think aesthetics are important but on the other I enjoy the needless deaths of the helpless. This is a tough one.
 
2013-05-02 07:47:23 PM  
What about the c-beams?  Are they glittering?

/Tannheuser
 
2013-05-02 07:50:17 PM  

Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]


Got a citation that that's fire?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-05-02 07:50:58 PM  
The Madd Mann

I was thinking of policies out of Washington. Obama is anti-CO2 and he has the EPA, Army, and Department of the Interior to back him up. A lot of oil exploitation activities require permits from those agencies.

In California a federal judge recently ruled that a fracking permit requires an environmental impact statement. I don't know if the permit was originally granted by the Bush or Obama administratoin.
 
2013-05-02 07:55:54 PM  

vudukungfu: Law should say you have to capture every farking molecule of fuel and store it for later use prior to drilling one CM.
Idiots.
Idiocracy.


You know, I'm a big supporter of alternative and renewable sources of power, but a policy like that would be utterly catastrophic.
 
2013-05-02 07:56:39 PM  

Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.


Intergang is pleased with their progress
 
2013-05-02 07:57:29 PM  

eatin' fetus: LiquidTester: You don't flare off gas while fracking

Nope, you most certainly don't. But lets sit back and watch a thread full of people who wouldn't know a proppant from a propeller. It's just more entertaining this way.


Fracking is whatever environmentalists want it to be as long as it's bad.

When they find out they have no contamination they get pissed.
 
2013-05-02 08:05:40 PM  

theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?


Unless north Dakota suddenly grew a city bigger than Chicago that i didnt know about, thats either a lot of fires or a lot of campers with flaslights
 
2013-05-02 08:05:49 PM  

theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?


is your point of contention that it may be work lights instead of fire?  I think the main argument would be light pollution moreso than the source of the light.
 
2013-05-02 08:12:23 PM  

theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?


Look at the map. It's bigger than Chicago. It's bigger than Atlanta. It's bigger than Houston. It's in North Dakota.
 
2013-05-02 08:14:08 PM  

theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?


Don't have a citation but:

It's a bit blurrier than the city lights. There's a different quality and color to it. And it's in the middle of everything else that's damn near black, and even Los Angeles isn't that big, so it couldn't be a city.
 
2013-05-02 08:18:12 PM  
Not to mention radioactive substances
 
2013-05-02 08:21:14 PM  
WTF is a c-beam?
 
2013-05-02 08:25:05 PM  

SpdrJay: WTF is a c-beam?


Probably some kind of laser weapon. c, as in, speed of light in a vacuum.
 
2013-05-02 08:30:06 PM  

theknuckler_33: a policy like that would be utterly catastrophic.


How so?
Why not a law saying you cannot out anything into a water supply that isn't pure water?
 
2013-05-02 08:35:08 PM  

banandar123: Am I the only one who learned what "fracking" is from that science quiz like 10 threads back?


I don't really know what it is. Something to do with pumping stuff into the ground to get some kind of petroleum-based fuel product out, which causes earthquakes and groundwater contamination and all kinds of crazy shiat depending on who you talk to.

I'd edumacate myself but you know what? I'm just tired of this shiat. My ability to care about anything outside my very small personal sphere is basically zero.
 
2013-05-02 08:40:46 PM  

Peki: theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?

Don't have a citation but:

It's a bit blurrier than the city lights. There's a different quality and color to it. And it's in the middle of everything else that's damn near black, and even Los Angeles isn't that big, so it couldn't be a city.


Essentially, what you're saying is you don't like natural gas production.  Fracking, as such, would not reasonably require massive burn-offs (unlike oil production where they just burn the Natural Gas to get rid of it).

I'd point out that Natural gas is better than really any of the alternatives.  Personally I'm more than willing to live with light pollution and scrapping large sections of rural PA in exchange for US energy independence.
 
2013-05-02 08:51:12 PM  

Peki: It's a bit blurrier than the city lights. There's a different quality and color to it. And it's in the middle of everything else that's damn near black, and even Los Angeles isn't that big, so it couldn't be a city.


Industrial lights are many times brighter than standard security and street lights and are usually aimed horizontally rather than vertically straight down they therefore the put off more light pollution, they also have a much broader (read whiter) spectrum. Think about the lights used by road crews at night, now multiply that by thousands of units over a large mostly dark area and you get the idea.  Yes the light is because of drilling, some of the light may even be gas being burned off, but the majority of the light is from industrial lights.

/The brighter the light the darker the shadows which is why streetlights are no brighter than they are.
 
2013-05-02 08:54:52 PM  

theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?


http://www.examiner.com/article/fracking-light-seen-outer-space

I claim no validity to the article above; however it seems to be a reputable source for the claim.
 
2013-05-02 09:04:29 PM  
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2013-05-02 09:04:56 PM  

Tom_Slick: Yes the light is because of drilling, some of the light may even be gas being burned off, but the majority of the light is from industrial lights.

 
So we've gone from "No flaring whatsoever" to "Just a little bit of flaring but mostly artificial lighting"


media.npr.org
Couldn't possibly be thousands of these, could it?

www.cleanwateraction.org

Nah, crazy talk.
=Smidge=
 
2013-05-02 09:07:01 PM  
Boo hoo
 
2013-05-02 09:07:39 PM  
If they come across any of the basic pleasure models like Pris I wouldn't mind hearing about that.

www.cigaretteburnpictures.com
 
2013-05-02 09:07:44 PM  

Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: theknuckler_33: Rav Tokomi: Fracking is perfectly clean and safe, citizen. Never mind the giant field of fireballs visible from outer space.

[www.marcellusprotest.org image 624x350]

Got a citation that that's fire?

http://www.examiner.com/article/fracking-light-seen-outer-space

I claim no validity to the article above; however it seems to be a reputable source for the claim.


NPR: "Those lights are rigs, hundreds of them, lit at night, or fiery flares of natural gas."
 
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