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2013-05-02 03:52:09 PM
If they're not going to be held accountable, why would anyone think they'd stop?
 
2013-05-02 04:18:07 PM
Keep it up though banks, corporations, government.  The people keep getting angrier.  History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap.  So...keep it up.

Please.
 
2013-05-02 04:55:31 PM

Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.


The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.
 
2013-05-02 04:57:32 PM
This should be good.

/popcorn, I has it.
 
2013-05-02 05:07:45 PM
If it's allowed, then it's not criminal conduct. Duh.

/It might be wrong, and perhaps it *should* be criminal, but technically it isn't if it's allowed.
 
2013-05-02 05:15:39 PM

BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.


Moreover, the super-wealthy now have private jets and islands. Getting to them to haul them to the guillotines when it all breaks down may be a lot harder than it was in France a couple centuries ago.

Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.
 
2013-05-02 05:22:22 PM
that's ok - once people are out in the cold, no home, no hope, little money and nothing to lose....they'll realize that the GOP made powerful assault weapons cheap, easy to obtain and plentiful and put 2 and 2 together all on their own.
 
2013-05-02 05:24:13 PM

COMALite J: Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.


That's not entirely true.  People on the lam don't hold any influence, so you can rebuild without them.
 
2013-05-02 05:26:37 PM

COMALite J: BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.

Moreover, the super-wealthy now have private jets and islands. Getting to them to haul them to the guillotines when it all breaks down may be a lot harder than it was in France a couple centuries ago.

Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.


They can have their islands. The people will control the rest of the goddamn world including resources, clean water and food. Not looking as good with that in mind. Kings of nothing if they continue this way.
 
2013-05-02 05:27:59 PM

BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.


The more it'll take to make the people finally snap, the more powerful and destructive that snap is gonna be.
 
2013-05-02 05:28:40 PM

Weaver95: that's ok - once people are out in the cold, no home, no hope, little money and nothing to lose....they'll realize that the GOP made powerful assault weapons cheap, easy to obtain and plentiful and put 2 and 2 together all on their own.


Pressure cookers are cheaper than an AR-15, and no background checks needed.

Just sayin'
 
2013-05-02 05:30:33 PM

TV's Vinnie: Weaver95: that's ok - once people are out in the cold, no home, no hope, little money and nothing to lose....they'll realize that the GOP made powerful assault weapons cheap, easy to obtain and plentiful and put 2 and 2 together all on their own.

Pressure cookers are cheaper than an AR-15, and no background checks needed.

Just sayin'


i'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more effort to flat out murder bankers and CEOs by now.  sure, you can say the big boys are 'safe' (something I don't agree with but go with it for now), but the middle managers who carry out the daily operations of such massive organized greed and douchebaggery aren't protected at all.
 
2013-05-02 05:33:39 PM

COMALite J: BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.

Moreover, the super-wealthy now have private jets and islands. Getting to them to haul them to the guillotines when it all breaks down may be a lot harder than it was in France a couple centuries ago.

Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.


This. I don't think the rest of us will be able to control the resources. They control the military. All we can do is watch Jersey Boo Boo and pretend it's all a dream...
 
2013-05-02 05:42:05 PM

Weaver95: i'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more effort to flat out murder bankers and CEOs by now.


I'm sure they pay for VERY good security.
 
2013-05-02 05:55:09 PM
The Entire US Banking industry needs a massive overhaul, but whats needed would never get through Congress.

things needed include:

1. banning sub prime ARMs and regurgitating all others ARMs.
2. setting maximum amounts allowable for various fees.
3. reestablish the law making investment banks separate from commercial banks.
4. Loans/mortgages  cannot be sold with out the permission of the mortgagees.
5. bankers are legally responsible for crimes committed by their banks.
 
2013-05-02 06:00:10 PM

GoldSpider: Weaver95: i'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more effort to flat out murder bankers and CEOs by now.

I'm sure they pay for VERY good security.


yeah, for the top guys.  middle managers?  not so much.  remember - the top guys have the view that middle managers can be replaced.  I suspect that if a lot of the managers started getting killed off, the top 1% might find it difficult to keep their business from falling apart.
 
2013-05-02 06:00:16 PM
See what reality would look like if Congress actually cared about filthy rich criminals getting off scott free for fraudulently seizing people's homes.

Senator Warren biatch slaps banking regulators seeking to protect the banks for fraudulent illegal foreclosures while screwing over the people they foreclosed against.
 
2013-05-02 06:04:16 PM

COMALite J: The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.

Moreover, the super-wealthy now have private jets and islands. Getting to them to haul them to the guillotines when it all breaks down may be a lot harder than it was in France a couple centuries ago.

Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.


Not to mention that such a rebellion like the one in France has happened, what, three times in the 100,000 year history of humans?

Yeah, I'm sure another one is right around the corner.....
 
2013-05-02 06:18:14 PM
I figured not much would change when the states started diverting the settlement money to the general fund
 
2013-05-02 06:25:26 PM
I worked for a property preservation company (read: maintain foreclosed houses so the banks don't face lawsuits and fines). Number one rule was: Keep us from sued.

Did they properly train or teach us how to do that? Hell no.

Example: When a landlord evicts a tenant, how long do you have to wait before tossing the stuff? It's a different law for every state. Do they train you on that? Nope. They tell you just go get rid of the stuff unless it's worth more than $500 at a garage sale (now there's a specific metric for you)--meaning, fill out this electronic form, and hit "send", wait two weeks, verify that the contractors actually took the stuff and aren't trying to charge you again, rinse repeat, about 150 times a day, and with different states--and when you fark up because you weren't trained properly, you're fired. Then the company gets to say, "Oh, we've instituted a training program so that doesn't happen again."
 
2013-05-02 06:43:22 PM
And some of you assholes mocked OWS.

Who is laughing now?
 
2013-05-02 06:44:41 PM

nmemkha: And some of you assholes mocked OWS.

Who is laughing now?


the bankers.  the bankers are laughing.
 
2013-05-02 06:53:06 PM
Remember, boys and girls:

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Class warfare.

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Not class warfare.
 
2013-05-02 07:05:58 PM
Remember this also:

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The occupiers are the ones on the right.  Not the ones on the left.
 
2013-05-02 07:10:52 PM

COMALite J: BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.

Moreover, the super-wealthy now have private jets and islands. Getting to them to haul them to the guillotines when it all breaks down may be a lot harder than it was in France a couple centuries ago.

Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.


For somebody to "win" something has to be over. It's not going to be "over" until we're extinct - in which case, who, exactly, "wins"?
 
2013-05-02 07:18:02 PM

BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.


And the lefties Mock and villainize those who express concern
 
2013-05-02 07:19:31 PM

Weaver95: that's ok - once people are out in the cold, no home, no hope, little money and nothing to lose....they'll realize that the GOP made powerful assault weapons cheap, easy to obtain and plentiful and put 2 and 2 together all on their own.


Wrong. Leftist statist puppets like you will win the gun war. Traitors like you will ensure the elite win.
 
2013-05-02 07:25:41 PM

Nemo's Brother: BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.

And the lefties Mock and villainize those who express concern


Roight, guv.  It was the "lefties" who called people traitors and terrorists and America-haters for opposing the "Patriot" Act and george w. bush's war drums.
 
2013-05-02 08:00:33 PM
Doooooooooomed.
 
2013-05-02 08:02:43 PM
Yeah I got a $300 check in the mail this week.  What was odd was that the original letter said I was getting close to $900.
 
2013-05-02 08:16:28 PM

Nemo's Brother: Weaver95: that's ok - once people are out in the cold, no home, no hope, little money and nothing to lose....they'll realize that the GOP made powerful assault weapons cheap, easy to obtain and plentiful and put 2 and 2 together all on their own.

Wrong. Leftist statist puppets like you will win the gun war. Traitors like you will ensure the elite win.


What color is the sky in your world? Congress can't even pass a background check, which the vast majority of the populace supports. I'm not too worried about Fartbong0 kicking my door down and taking my guns anytime soon.
 
2013-05-02 08:21:55 PM

mod3072: Nemo's Brother: Weaver95: that's ok - once people are out in the cold, no home, no hope, little money and nothing to lose....they'll realize that the GOP made powerful assault weapons cheap, easy to obtain and plentiful and put 2 and 2 together all on their own.

Wrong. Leftist statist puppets like you will win the gun war. Traitors like you will ensure the elite win.

What color is the sky in your world? Congress can't even pass a background check, which the vast majority of the populace supports. I'm not too worried about Fartbong0 kicking my door down and taking my guns anytime soon.


I'm more worried about Fartbong0 appointing a cable and wireless industry lobbyist (and Obama fundraiser) to head the FCC yesterday.

The filthy rich completely own both parties.

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2013-05-02 08:28:37 PM

grimlock1972: regurgitating all others ARMs.


I hope they make it to the toilet in time.
 
2013-05-02 08:29:30 PM
If you want to be fined five minute's income, defraud hundreds of thousands of people out of billions of dollars.
if you want to go to prison for five years, steal a car worth $8000.

There was a brief period, back in the sixties and seventies, when i thought maybe this country was going to grow a set of balls. i forgot all that when that grinning piece of shiat was elected in 1980.
America is shiat, and not worth saving. Land of the cowards, and home of the pussies.
Enjoy the taste of your master's shiat. you f**king human dogs.
 
2013-05-02 08:30:06 PM

Elandriel: Keep it up though banks, corporations, government.  The people keep getting angrier.  History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap.  So...keep it up.

Please.


Bread and circuses, dude.   The banks, corporations, and government have devised a way to pump that shiat directly into your house, and you eat it up with relish and beg for more.   The change movement in this nation has devolved into the Tea Party retards and the Occupy retards, neither of which is going to do a damn thing except blog about how awesome they are at fighting the man.

Huxley (peace be upon him) was the last great prophet of God.

thumbs.imagekind.com
 
2013-05-02 08:32:37 PM

BooBoo23: Elandriel: History has shown that no matter how cowed a populace is, eventually they snap. So...keep it up.

The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.


The populace has never been as comfortable. Do you think envy is a strong enough emotion for the supposedly exploited masses to get out of their easy chairs, put down their chips and beer, turn off the tv, go outside in the rain/chill/heat, and risk jail/death by engaging in some sort of armed insurgency?

No. You may get a few insane ones to go out and try to cause some mayhem. But most will sit in the comfort of their homes and whine about CEO pay on the Internet whilst wiping cheeto crumbs with their sleeves.
 
2013-05-02 08:35:56 PM

jso2897: If you want to be fined five minute's income, defraud hundreds of thousands of people out of billions of dollars.
if you want to go to prison for five years, steal a car worth $8000.

There was a brief period, back in the sixties and seventies, when i thought maybe this country was going to grow a set of balls. i forgot all that when that grinning piece of shiat was elected in 1980.
America is shiat, and not worth saving. Land of the cowards, and home of the pussies.
Enjoy the taste of your master's shiat. you f**king human dogs.


LOL!! I disagree with you completely but credit where credit's due! awesome post!

/"enjoy the taste of your master's shiat" classic
 
2013-05-02 08:36:27 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: COMALite J: The populace has never been as fat, lazy, and sedated by brain-numbing media as they are now, though. That snap may take waaaay longer than we think.

Moreover, the super-wealthy now have private jets and islands. Getting to them to haul them to the guillotines when it all breaks down may be a lot harder than it was in France a couple centuries ago.

Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.

Not to mention that such a rebellion like the one in France has happened, what, three times in the 100,000 year history of humans?

Yeah, I'm sure another one is right around the corner.....


Exactly three, in fact.  There are three nations that have outright rejected monarchy in modern history.  Ireland,   France, and the US.  Only the US seems hell bent on bringing it back.
 
2013-05-02 08:39:53 PM
BullBearMS:

The filthy rich completely own both parties.

And that, boys and girls, is exactly why we are all well and truly farked.
 
2013-05-02 08:46:17 PM
I know that some people have been foreclosed upon.  I think that they should either get their property back and treble damages and expenses or cash equivilent.
 
2013-05-02 08:46:35 PM

BullBearMS: See what reality would look like if Congress actually cared about filthy rich criminals getting off scott free for fraudulently seizing people's homes.

Senator Warren biatch slaps banking regulators seeking to protect the banks for fraudulent illegal foreclosures while screwing over the people they foreclosed against.


Wow. The banking regulators saying "We have evidence of crimes by the banks who have defrauded people out of the homes, but we're not going to give that information to the home owner".

At least in the UK when they bailed out the banks it was in exchange for a huge chunk of equity. They didn't just throw money at the banks.
 
2013-05-02 08:46:54 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: jso2897: If you want to be fined five minute's income, defraud hundreds of thousands of people out of billions of dollars.
if you want to go to prison for five years, steal a car worth $8000.

There was a brief period, back in the sixties and seventies, when i thought maybe this country was going to grow a set of balls. i forgot all that when that grinning piece of shiat was elected in 1980.
America is shiat, and not worth saving. Land of the cowards, and home of the pussies.
Enjoy the taste of your master's shiat. you f**king human dogs.

LOL!! I disagree with you completely but credit where credit's due! awesome post!

/"enjoy the taste of your master's shiat" classic


Lol. He thinks he "disagrees" with that which is utterly beyond his slave comprehension.
 
2013-05-02 08:48:56 PM

ski9600: I know that some people have been foreclosed upon.  I think that they should either get their property back and treble damages and expenses or cash equivilent.


If they were foreclosed on illegally, or due to a bank mistake, then they should. Banks are very quick to charge you when you make a tiny mistake, so if a bank makes a mistake and takes away your home then damn right they should pay up.

Is this not the perfect case for a class action lawsuit?
 
2013-05-02 08:58:56 PM

jso2897: Debeo Summa Credo: jso2897: If you want to be fined five minute's income, defraud hundreds of thousands of people out of billions of dollars.
if you want to go to prison for five years, steal a car worth $8000.

There was a brief period, back in the sixties and seventies, when i thought maybe this country was going to grow a set of balls. i forgot all that when that grinning piece of shiat was elected in 1980.
America is shiat, and not worth saving. Land of the cowards, and home of the pussies.
Enjoy the taste of your master's shiat. you f**king human dogs.

LOL!! I disagree with you completely but credit where credit's due! awesome post!

/"enjoy the taste of your master's shiat" classic

Lol. He thinks he "disagrees" with that which is utterly beyond his slave comprehension.


"slave comprehension"?!? That's not nearly as funny as "master's shiat". Quit while you're ahead.

But surely, there are any number of communist paradises you could emigrate to, right? What's stopping you? Sure, the USSR and East Germany are gone. And China and Vietnam have abandoned Marxism. But you still have Cuba, right? And North Korea don't forget! Bon voyage, comrade!
 
2013-05-02 09:19:00 PM

IrateShadow: COMALite J: Face it: they're gonna win this time, and there's nothing we can do about it, even though we outnumber them hundreds of millions to one. Civilization itself is doomed, within our lifetimes.

That's not entirely true.  People on the lam don't hold any influence, so you can rebuild without them.


Not only that, you've invalidated a serious portion of their wealth.

Think of it this way: America snaps. The currency will immediately become suspect (armed mobs tend to undermine confidence) and much if the world's wealth is pegged to the dollar, including the currencies of many tax havens. On top of that some banks (read: those in tax havens) tend to record deposits in amount AND currency type. So if you deposit a million Lira it is recorded as 1 million Lira and is kept as such unless exchanged for a different currency type.

So I'm all for armed insurrection.
 
2013-05-02 09:19:07 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: But surely, there are any number of communist paradises you could emigrate to, right? What's stopping you? Sure, the USSR and East Germany are gone. And China and Vietnam have abandoned Marxism. But you still have Cuba, right? And North Korea don't forget! Bon voyage, comrade!


Most doing-well European countries are palces you would consider socialistic. Even Germany.
 
2013-05-02 09:33:44 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: grimlock1972: regurgitating all others ARMs.

I hope they make it to the toilet in time.


Whoops *facepalms*
 
2013-05-02 09:34:29 PM
Of course you guys will biatch about the rich on the Internet and expend your anger here.  Then you're be nice and sedated for the real world.
 
2013-05-02 09:39:23 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: But surely, there are any number of communist paradises you could emigrate to, right? What's stopping you? Sure, the USSR and East Germany are gone. And China and Vietnam have abandoned Marxism. But you still have Cuba, right? And North Korea don't forget! Bon voyage, comrade!


So then it's Marxist to insist that a contract ought to be binding on a party that has enough money to buy a few legislators?
 
2013-05-02 09:41:35 PM
OWS didn't  totally fail - we weren't even having conversations about inequality before OWS, at least not loudly and publicly. Romney would probably have been elected if it wasn't for OWS, which led to his very damaging public "47%" comment - which came from GOP talking points against the "1% vs 99%" that OWS brought to the forefront. So don't tell me OWS didn't do any good.

But as for this stuff - it's mortgage and tite fraud, on a institutional level. The banks are literally criminal organizations and should be dealt with like organized crime through RICO. But because the FIRE sector controls the country, they are let off. It literally will not end until there is a revolution or a new FDR appears. It may take another crash or two and perhaps a decade or more before it gets severe enough, but we are on the road to a very nasty place.

Interestingly, I've heard that the country was on the verge of insurrection when FDR came in and brought out the New Deal and other socialistic reforms. I don't know how true that is, but the commies were very strong in the 1930s. I prefer distributism, but that's just me.
 
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