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2013-05-02 09:28:33 AM
And racial discrimination lawsuit in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-05-02 09:33:32 AM
Calculator: Was my home a good investment?

I don't know, do you enjoy living in it? Why the fark is housing, of all things, yet another thing for wall street types to flip and fark over when we have so many homeless?
 
2013-05-02 09:34:18 AM
Realtors have to justify their continued existence somehow.

Properties that end up on public MLS systems can lead to buyers and sellers interacting directly without a middleman taking a cut, and that's bad news for the middleman industry.
 
2013-05-02 09:34:20 AM
Did Ric Romero write this? Houses above the 500,000 mark regularly have these kinds of restrictions placed.

This is like the most open "secret" in realty.
 
2013-05-02 09:35:00 AM
"When it's put on the MLS, sometimes the next morning you see people standing outside the property, hoping to talk to the sellers."

Yeah. Questions like, "How long has the house been empty? Any problems with termites? Roof leaks? Plumbing ok?

Ideally, the buyer has deep pockets is willing to pay in cash, fast.

Yeah, I'll bet.
 
2013-05-02 09:35:20 AM

FrancoFile: And racial discrimination lawsuit in 3... 2... 1...


Why would I care the race of who buys my house?   If you're purple and dumb enough to accept my price without concessions, you're getting the house, my soon-to-be ex-neighbors can kiss my ass.

That being said, I sold my house in 6 days by giving a FABULOUS! stager free reign of my house and not arguing with my real estate agent about what I should be asking for.   Sold it to a guy on a VA loan and the appraisal came in right at my selling price(They're more stringent than your typical appraiser).

/if you're selling in DC and need a guy, EIP
 
2013-05-02 09:36:51 AM

Girion47: FrancoFile: And racial discrimination lawsuit in 3... 2... 1...

Why would I care the race of who buys my house?   If you're purple and dumb enough to accept my price without concessions, you're getting the house, my soon-to-be ex-neighbors can kiss my ass.

That being said, I sold my house in 6 days by giving a FABULOUS! stager free reign of my house and not arguing with my real estate agent about what I should be asking for.   Sold it to a guy on a VA loan and the appraisal came in right at my selling price(They're more stringent than your typical appraiser).

/if you're selling in DC and need a guy, EIP


It's called steering.  It's a thing.
 
2013-05-02 09:42:33 AM
Practices such as this, and overpricing listings (then lowering them face-to-face for the "right kind of folks") is what kept Livonia MI one the most white suburb of Detroit for a very long time.  Until someone found out.
 
2013-05-02 09:43:42 AM
Keep your comments in your pocket!
 
2013-05-02 09:43:43 AM
I'm selling my house by owner so I'm getting a kick...

1) Do a limited listing with an agent or online services for $1000 or so and save $$ and/ or price your house lower so it will move
2) Pay the buying agent a standard commission
3) ... profit

Selling agents are worthless.

I'm moving, and if I could find a way to simply pay someone by the hour to "show" me houses, I would.

"Show" in quotes, because when I bought the current house, the agent had less information than what I did.   They all hate Zillow (which is not good for a specific price, but is certainly good for the market, the history, taxes, etc.).  But Zillow and the interwebs give you way more information.  You can eliminate many houses based on the photos they show.

If you're getting a "pocket listing" - you're just bidding on a house that an agent is trying to create an artificial market for.  You have less information about the house.

Anyway, the smart agents are moving toward the limited listing model and making their money on the buy side.
 
2013-05-02 09:45:43 AM

poot_rootbeer: Realtors have to justify their continued existence somehow.

Properties that end up on public MLS systems can lead to buyers and sellers interacting directly without a middleman taking a cut, and that's bad news for the middleman industry.


That's right. And the realtors are the first to squirm out of their jobs with their "you should have known that before" excuses. If I need to know everything by myself, why do I need you?
 
2013-05-02 09:48:00 AM
Is that a listing in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
 
2013-05-02 09:50:24 AM
Funny, I never considered my house as an investment, it is a place to hang my hat. Not moving anywhere soon.
 
2013-05-02 09:53:11 AM

Bronzed War God: I'm selling my house by owner so I'm getting a kick...

1) Do a limited listing with an agent or online services for $1000 or so and save $$ and/ or price your house lower so it will move
2) Pay the buying agent a standard commission
3) ... profit

Selling agents are worthless.

I'm moving, and if I could find a way to simply pay someone by the hour to "show" me houses, I would.

"Show" in quotes, because when I bought the current house, the agent had less information than what I did.   They all hate Zillow (which is not good for a specific price, but is certainly good for the market, the history, taxes, etc.).  But Zillow and the interwebs give you way more information.  You can eliminate many houses based on the photos they show.

If you're getting a "pocket listing" - you're just bidding on a house that an agent is trying to create an artificial market for.  You have less information about the house.

Anyway, the smart agents are moving toward the limited listing model and making their money on the buy side.


Sort of related but maybe not.  I moved to Dallas (Plano actually) in 2000 for awhile.  I wanted a rental.  I searched the internet (back when searching was a little dicey and e-commerce was fairly new) and found a consultant that helped people find places to live.  I filled out a questionairre and then after she reviewed it we had a 15 minute phone conversation to discuss my needs.  We arranged a date to look at places.  Half a day.  We looked at 4 places and by the second one I was sold.  I never paid her a dime.  The rentals she worked with paid her a commission equivalent to one month's rent.  I was extraordinarily pleased with the service.  You would think purchasing a house would have a similar efficiency built into it at this point.  I've bought a couple houses at this point and they were inefficient experiences that were horribly expensive.  What you are describing sounds a little better but still there must be a better business model.
 
2013-05-02 10:05:53 AM

poot_rootbeer: Realtors have to justify their continued existence somehow.


Yeah, it's on the ever-growing list of careers that really should just be replaced with websites.

I met a travel agent last week. Apparently that's still a thing.
 
2013-05-02 10:12:37 AM
As if all real estate agents love driving all over town showing places to people who will never buy. What's the worst that could happen.

To make up for the loss of income, some turn to prostition with a twist: sex in a stranger's house.

Given that agents have been know to be kidnapped, raped or killed by "clients," some have decided to make that risk pay off.
 
2013-05-02 10:16:58 AM
As others have pointed out, this is neither new nor a secret, so I am unsure why it is news worthy. Our local realty agents will ask how "public" you want the listing, depending on the neighborhood. In some of the more expensive areas, you will very rarely see a house on the market in any published form because the agent or friendly HOA reps already have people interested "pre-market".
 
2013-05-02 10:18:58 AM

Girion47: Why would I care the race of who buys my house? If you're purple and dumb enough to accept my price without concessions, you're getting the house, my soon-to-be ex-neighbors can kiss my ass.



YOU don't, but racists do.

It's illogical to care what race of a person buys your house, but people with a strong grasp of logic aren't generally racist to begin with.
 
2013-05-02 10:19:41 AM

Bronzed War God: I'm selling my house by owner so I'm getting a kick...

1) Do a limited listing with an agent or online services for $1000 or so and save $$ and/ or price your house lower so it will move
2) Pay the buying agent a standard commission
3) ... profit

Selling agents are worthless.


Not always - when we moved we didn't want to have to drive 45-60 mins on a moment's notice (had a 2 yr old - makes that difficult) to show our house.  To venture in to CSB-land, the eventual buyers for the townhouse had a real moran for an agent who ended up costing them more money.  They failed to show up at signing, then wanted to come back for a new contract, so we added a clause with an additional $100/day if they missed the next signing, which they did.  Their realtor never told them about the financial disclosure stuff and had $10k they couldn't (or wouldn't) account for as a gift*.  Our realtor took care of all the back-n-forth crap and put up with their jerk realtor who kept pulling the "I'm-a-man-you're-a-woman-so-you're-wrong" act.

/*the buyers were a young middle-eastern couple so that probably set off red flags.
//their realtor also "forgot" to tell them about the HOA fees until after they signed.  Our realtor had to tell them (we weren't there, we had our signing earlier).
 
2013-05-02 10:30:09 AM
It also helps set your home up as a commodity on top of a commodity, and there are certain people who will pay a premium for that sort of exclusivity.  And it keeps you from having showings for "buyers" who "just want to see what a house like this looks like on the inside." My two least favorite parts of selling a house is having to keep it spotless all the time (we had people who didn't like it because it "smelled like someone hadbeen cooking recently" and there were dishes in the dishwasher; yeah, you called when I was making lunch and wanted to see it in twenty minutes) and having to take the dogs away (or if they wanted to see it when we we set work, people complained the dogs were barking when they were there; yeah, three are strange people walking through their house).  Every showing its a complete pain in the ass for the seller.  A little screening would be great.
 
2013-05-02 10:30:14 AM
I dont find this as bad as the practice of charging people to see certain homes.
 
2013-05-02 10:32:30 AM

syberpud: Bronzed War God: I'm selling my house by owner so I'm getting a kick...

1) Do a limited listing with an agent or online services for $1000 or so and save $$ and/ or price your house lower so it will move
2) Pay the buying agent a standard commission
3) ... profit

Selling agents are worthless.

Not always - when we moved we didn't want to have to drive 45-60 mins on a moment's notice (had a 2 yr old - makes that difficult) to show our house.  To venture in to CSB-land, the eventual buyers for the townhouse had a real moran for an agent who ended up costing them more money.  They failed to show up at signing, then wanted to come back for a new contract, so we added a clause with an additional $100/day if they missed the next signing, which they did.  Their realtor never told them about the financial disclosure stuff and had $10k they couldn't (or wouldn't) account for as a gift*.  Our realtor took care of all the back-n-forth crap and put up with their jerk realtor who kept pulling the "I'm-a-man-you're-a-woman-so-you're-wrong" act.

/*the buyers were a young middle-eastern couple so that probably set off red flags.
//their realtor also "forgot" to tell them about the HOA fees until after they signed.  Our realtor had to tell them (we weren't there, we had our signing earlier).


Selling a house you don't live in may be different.  We are selling our current dwelling.   That said, most buying agents give you a heads-up at least a few hours, if not a day in advance.  And if it is a 3 hour effort (there/ back/ wait during the showing), and saves you $5000, it is worth it.

Also... agents "forget" all kinds of things.  And just because they're licensed doesn't mean they're honest... After signing the buying agent tried to renegotiate because she said the buyers thought they were paying too much... total BS.
 
2013-05-02 10:34:12 AM
When I bought my first house I signed with a realtor to represent me. As you would expect, he tried to steer me to his listings, and I did far more research on the properties that I was looking for than he did.
I also caught him in lies a couple times; either that or he was so stupid that he had no idea what he was doing. For example, we put in a bid on a foreclosure. The bank that owned the property countered, and we accepted. This was all in writing, and quite legally binding. So as we're getting ready to close, the bank contacts our realtor and asks for $1,500 more.... And our realtor said we should pay the extra money! When I told him that the bank could go to hell, he then tried to tell me I had to complete the sale because we made the initial offer.

Without going into too many details, we closed on the house at the originally agreed upon price, but two months late.

Last I heard, our realtor went bankrupt after the housing market took a dump, and was being investigated for running some sort of disability scam.

/We won't even get into the part of the story where BOA get involved....shudder....
 
2013-05-02 10:44:49 AM

mongbiohazard: Girion47: Why would I care the race of who buys my house? If you're purple and dumb enough to accept my price without concessions, you're getting the house, my soon-to-be ex-neighbors can kiss my ass.


YOU don't, but racists do.

It's illogical to care what race of a person buys your house, but people with a strong grasp of logic aren't generally racist to begin with.


It's called "not burning bridges."  You might want to remain on good terms with valuable contacts in the old neighborhood.
 
2013-05-02 10:56:58 AM
Pocket listings have been used for 20 years.
This is news?
This is fark
 
2013-05-02 10:57:53 AM

brandent: I've bought a couple houses at this point and they were inefficient experiences that were horribly expensive.


God. We told our realtor that we wanted a minimum of half an acre. We fired her ass after the 10th listing she emailed us that was on 1/5th. Freaking idiots.
 
2013-05-02 11:21:49 AM
You guys had some shiatty realtors.

In DC I had this gay guy that was awesome as a selling agent and here in Louisville I had this guy I went to school with that would take my wife and I out drinking after every group of showings we did.   Never pressured us into a house, and steered  us away from bad buys.   He's also been invaluable in hooking us up with contractors that can fix anything that goes wrong with our place.

/He also bought us Jefferson's Reserve 18 yr. as a closing gift.
//It's relabeled Pappy Van Winkle.
 
2013-05-02 11:29:01 AM
But pocket ninjas aren't just for luxury clients anymore. With the number of buyers far outpacing the number of posts for sale in hot markets like Los Angeles and Manhattan, pocket ninjas are becoming more common among more moderately-priced posts as well, he said. He has some pocket ninjas where sellers are asking for as little as $500,000

/This is how I read the article.
 
2013-05-02 11:29:43 AM

BigBooper: When I bought my first house I signed with a realtor to represent me. As you would expect, he tried to steer me to his listings, and I did far more research on the properties that I was looking for than he did.
I also caught him in lies a couple times; either that or he was so stupid that he had no idea what he was doing. For example, we put in a bid on a foreclosure. The bank that owned the property countered, and we accepted. This was all in writing, and quite legally binding. So as we're getting ready to close, the bank contacts our realtor and asks for $1,500 more.... And our realtor said we should pay the extra money! When I told him that the bank could go to hell, he then tried to tell me I had to complete the sale because we made the initial offer.

Without going into too many details, we closed on the house at the originally agreed upon price, but two months late.

Last I heard, our realtor went bankrupt after the housing market took a dump, and was being investigated for running some sort of disability scam.

/We won't even get into the part of the story where BOA get involved....shudder....


If any home I look at involves BOA and foreclosure in the same sentence, I am high tailing it the other direction.
 
2013-05-02 11:31:45 AM

Hyggelig lurker: But pocket ninjas aren't just for luxury clients anymore. With the number of buyers far outpacing the number of posts for sale in hot markets like Los Angeles and Manhattan, pocket ninjas are becoming more common among more moderately-priced posts as well, he said. He has some pocket ninjas where sellers are asking for as little as $500,000

/This is how I read the article.


Because, as you're fully aware, a large majority in this country are able to afford a $500K mortgage.
 
2013-05-02 11:33:13 AM

jayphat: Hyggelig lurker: But pocket ninjas aren't just for luxury clients anymore. With the number of buyers far outpacing the number of posts for sale in hot markets like Los Angeles and Manhattan, pocket ninjas are becoming more common among more moderately-priced posts as well, he said. He has some pocket ninjas where sellers are asking for as little as $500,000

/This is how I read the article.

Because, as you're fully aware, a large majority in this country are able to afford a $500K mortgage.


In some markets 500K would buy you a 1500 sq. ft. shiat hole 30 miles outside the center of the city.

Like in NoVA.
 
2013-05-02 11:52:35 AM

Girion47: jayphat: Hyggelig lurker: But pocket ninjas aren't just for luxury clients anymore. With the number of buyers far outpacing the number of posts for sale in hot markets like Los Angeles and Manhattan, pocket ninjas are becoming more common among more moderately-priced posts as well, he said. He has some pocket ninjas where sellers are asking for as little as $500,000

/This is how I read the article.

Because, as you're fully aware, a large majority in this country are able to afford a $500K mortgage.

In some markets 500K would buy you a 1500 sq. ft. shiat hole 30 miles outside the center of the city.

Like in NoVA.


Oh sure I paid close to that amount for 1000 sq ft home 50 miles outside NYC. I am also a corporate hobo who has travelled the nation and realize that most people buy homes significantly cheaper.

/also please re- read my post where I break fark rules by calling out a poster not present in the thread.
// sorry he is the best of fark.
 
2013-05-02 11:58:53 AM

mongbiohazard: Girion47: Why would I care the race of who buys my house? If you're purple and dumb enough to accept my price without concessions, you're getting the house, my soon-to-be ex-neighbors can kiss my ass.


YOU don't, but racists do.

It's illogical to care what race of a person buys your house, but people with a strong grasp of logic aren't generally racist to begin with.


It's just a different mix of logic and emotion.  You don't want to offend people, and it's popular right now to find racism offensive.  But classism isn't as offensive to most people and some are even oblivious to it.  Races are different just like classes are different, otherwise we wouldn't be able to name them.  It's just not okay to talk about it.  Whether you accept that yourself is a choice.  Cultures, too, are different.  For example, I decided not to date certain girls of many races, including my own, when I met their parents or saw up close how they lived.  I wasn't compatible with their culture, and they couldn't relate to mine.  I ended up marrying a woman of my same culture based on her intelligence, interests, her laugh, and her figure.  It had nothing to with race.

Is it "illogical" to object to having neighbors (or selling your house to someone) of a different culture?  The fact that race and culture overlap significantly is very often mere coincidence.  What if the Obamas wanted to live next door?  There are millions of Americans who would be honored to live by them but would object to a family of radically different culture of any race, even their own.  But racism enthusiasts will call it racism as long as they're different colors... and remain quiet in cases of intra-racial enmity.
 
2013-05-02 12:02:05 PM

jayphat: Hyggelig lurker: But pocket ninjas aren't just for luxury clients anymore. With the number of buyers far outpacing the number of posts for sale in hot markets like Los Angeles and Manhattan, pocket ninjas are becoming more common among more moderately-priced posts as well, he said. He has some pocket ninjas where sellers are asking for as little as $500,000

/This is how I read the article.

Because, as you're fully aware, a large majority in this country are able to afford a $500K mortgage.


Afford and qualifyfor are two completely separate things.
 
2013-05-02 12:36:36 PM

Bronzed War God: syberpud: Bronzed War God: I'm selling my house by owner so I'm getting a kick...

1) Do a limited listing with an agent or online services for $1000 or so and save $$ and/ or price your house lower so it will move
2) Pay the buying agent a standard commission
3) ... profit

Selling agents are worthless.

Not always - when we moved we didn't want to have to drive 45-60 mins on a moment's notice (had a 2 yr old - makes that difficult) to show our house.  To venture in to CSB-land, the eventual buyers for the townhouse had a real moran for an agent who ended up costing them more money.  They failed to show up at signing, then wanted to come back for a new contract, so we added a clause with an additional $100/day if they missed the next signing, which they did.  Their realtor never told them about the financial disclosure stuff and had $10k they couldn't (or wouldn't) account for as a gift*.  Our realtor took care of all the back-n-forth crap and put up with their jerk realtor who kept pulling the "I'm-a-man-you're-a-woman-so-you're-wrong" act.

/*the buyers were a young middle-eastern couple so that probably set off red flags.
//their realtor also "forgot" to tell them about the HOA fees until after they signed.  Our realtor had to tell them (we weren't there, we had our signing earlier).

Selling a house you don't live in may be different.  We are selling our current dwelling.   That said, most buying agents give you a heads-up at least a few hours, if not a day in advance.  And if it is a 3 hour effort (there/ back/ wait during the showing), and saves you $5000, it is worth it.

Also... agents "forget" all kinds of things.  And just because they're licensed doesn't mean they're honest... After signing the buying agent tried to renegotiate because she said the buyers thought they were paying too much... total BS.


In that case, the buyer's agent wasn't dishonest, just an idiot.  Here in the DC area, the housing boom never really ended, just cooled a little.  So there is still enough business for any half-wit with a licence to make some money.  Only the bottom of the barrel ones were weeded out.  I felt a little sorry for the buyers who had to pay for their realtor's fark-up but they choose the guy.  I'm assuming he was family or something.

But you are right, if you are living in the house you are selling, an agent isn't that helpful.
 
2013-05-02 01:39:26 PM
Man, I almost wish I'd done that with our house -- we just accepted an offer this morning. The morning after it went up on the MLS, people started showing up, wanting a look. The listing said no showings until after the open house, so we told people to come back then or talk to our realtor.

This went on all week until the day of the open house. My husband even had to chase off people who showed up and just started snooping around the back yard. We drew all the curtains because people were walking up to the house and trying to look inside. I would have given a great deal to have done one of these "pocket listings" if only for my fraying sanity.
 
2013-05-02 01:59:37 PM

eeyore102: Man, I almost wish I'd done that with our house -- we just accepted an offer this morning. The morning after it went up on the MLS, people started showing up, wanting a look. The listing said no showings until after the open house, so we told people to come back then or talk to our realtor.

This went on all week until the day of the open house. My husband even had to chase off people who showed up and just started snooping around the back yard. We drew all the curtains because people were walking up to the house and trying to look inside. I would have given a great deal to have done one of these "pocket listings" if only for my fraying sanity.


Then you shouldn't have listed it unless you were ready for it to be seen.   Open Houses are a waste of time and just your realtor trying to expand his customer base.
 
2013-05-02 02:04:09 PM
Back when I was a Realtor I always had a few "hip pocket" listings, but since this is a semi-rural area they were all raw land. A different situation though, these were unlisted & I had a handshake agreement with the owner(s) to show it if someone expressed an interest in a large (100+ acres) property, sometimes out in the middle of nowhere with no water or power..

/15 years of real estate was enough
//always honest, never got sued
///wanted to feed a lot of clients to the buzzards & coyotes
 
2013-05-02 04:30:49 PM

BarkingUnicorn: mongbiohazard: Girion47: Why would I care the race of who buys my house? If you're purple and dumb enough to accept my price without concessions, you're getting the house, my soon-to-be ex-neighbors can kiss my ass.


YOU don't, but racists do.

It's illogical to care what race of a person buys your house, but people with a strong grasp of logic aren't generally racist to begin with.

It's called "not burning bridges."  You might want to remain on good terms with valuable contacts in the old neighborhood.


It's still racism if you don't want to sell to a minority because your neighbors are racist. Doesn't really change much if the person selling doesn't realize they're racist.


Wangiss: It's just a different mix of logic and emotion. You don't want to offend people, and it's popular right now to find racism offensive. But classism isn't as offensive to most people and some are even oblivious to it. Races are different just like classes are different, otherwise we wouldn't be able to name them. It's just not okay to talk about it. Whether you accept that yourself is a choice. Cultures, too, are different. For example, I decided not to date certain girls of many races, including my own, when I met their parents or saw up close how they lived. I wasn't compatible with their culture, and they couldn't relate to mine. I ended up marrying a woman of my same culture based on her intelligence, interests, her laugh, and her figure. It had nothing to with race.

Is it "illogical" to object to having neighbors (or selling your house to someone) of a different culture? The fact that race and culture overlap significantly is very often mere coincidence. What if the Obamas wanted to live next door? There are millions of Americans who would be honored to live by them but would object to a family of radically different culture of any race, even their own. But racism enthusiasts will call it racism as long as they're different colors... and remain quiet in cases of intra-racial enmity.



And just what different "culture" do you believe the Obama's are from? Let me give you a hint: if you think it's a different culture than their neighbors then you might be a racist yourself. Just because someone's skin is a different color doesn't necessarily mean they're from a different culture. The "but they're a different culture" thing is often a cowardly euphamism for racism. I've heard it used like that numerous times before.
 
2013-05-02 06:30:00 PM

cig-mkr: Funny, I never considered my house as an investment, it is a place to hang my hat. Not moving anywhere soon.


THIS!

I live in South Florida, where every other home is sold as an "investment".  Meaning it is bought up by New Englanders who pay in cash and then rent it out to the locals at jacked-up New York City rates.  Trying to by a home as a local is close to impossible.  So much is sold as cash-only for investment purposes.
 
2013-05-02 08:13:48 PM

mongbiohazard: Wangiss: It's just a different mix of logic and emotion. You don't want to offend people, and it's popular right now to find racism offensive. But classism isn't as offensive to most people and some are even oblivious to it. Races are different just like classes are different, otherwise we wouldn't be able to name them. It's just not okay to talk about it. Whether you accept that yourself is a choice. Cultures, too, are different. For example, I decided not to date certain girls of many races, including my own, when I met their parents or saw up close how they lived. I wasn't compatible with their culture, and they couldn't relate to mine. I ended up marrying a woman of my same culture based on her intelligence, interests, her laugh, and her figure. It had nothing to with race.

Is it "illogical" to object to having neighbors (or selling your house to someone) of a different culture? The fact that race and culture overlap significantly is very often mere coincidence. What if the Obamas wanted to live next door? There are millions of Americans who would be honored to live by them but would object to a family of radically different culture of any race, even their own. But racism enthusiasts will call it racism as long as they're different colors... and remain quiet in cases of intra-racial enmity.


And just what different "culture" do you believe the Obama's are from? Let me give you a hint: if you think it's a different culture than their neighbors then you might be a racist yourself. Just because someone's skin is a different color doesn't necessarily mean they're from a different culture. The "but they're a different culture" thing is often a cowardly euphamism for racism. I've heard it used like that numerous times before.


I think what he meant by "culture" is an amalgamation of education, life experiences, worldview, etc.

For example, George Herbert Walker Bush probably would have greater cultural affinity with Barack Obama than with Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, because of their wealth, quality of education, and professional achievements.

Another example: King Abdullah of Jordan probably would have greater cultural affinity with George Herbert Walker Bush than with some nomadic Bedouin hillbilly (dunebilly? I know - racist!) for the same reasons.
 
2013-05-02 09:41:03 PM
FTFA: The housing rebound has given new life to an old, but little-known sales practice called "pocket listings," where agents reserve homes for serious buyers only.

Actually, a pocket listing can simply be a listing which hasn't yet posted on MLS. You can have a listing that isn't due to go active until a certain date, but if you find out that a buyer has cash and is looking to buy quickly, you can wind up selling the house before that date. It happens all the time in hot markets, and it is perfectly legal. There is absolutely no requirement for a listing to be made public before it can be sold.
 
2013-05-02 09:41:42 PM
"Hey, well don't stop there! Maybe you could post some guards on the roof who can shoot people as they try to get in..."
 
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