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(CBS News)   Justice Department files morning after appeal to abort morning-after pill   (cbsnews.com) divider line 28
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2013-05-02 07:59:12 AM
3 votes:

Even With A Chainsaw: Tell me again how Obama is the libbiest lib that ever libbed?


If this was 1983 instead of 2013 his policies would be considered conservative republican.
2013-05-02 08:36:18 AM
2 votes:
Oh look, the Bigot Research Council thinks teen girls should old be treated like incubators if they have sex.

What a shock.
2013-05-02 08:19:05 AM
2 votes:

TheWizard: Target Builder: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?

He's a lot more conservative than a lot of people, conservatives and liberals, think he is.

I think the word you are looking for is authoritarian.


Sure, if you're looking for a synonym for "conservative."
2013-05-02 08:08:27 AM
2 votes:
Just what we need........both sides intruding on a woman's reproductive rights.  This should be a decision made between a woman and her physician.  The FDA made a step in the right direction yesterday, and now the Justice Dept wants to reverse that.  Women, especially teenagers, need better access to birth control.  Some of these politicians should step foot in my clinic once in a while and see the number of teenagers who end up pregnant.
2013-05-02 07:54:51 AM
2 votes:
"Social conservatives were outraged by the FDA's move to lower the age limits for Plan B - as well as the possibility that Korman's ruling might take effect and lift age restrictions altogether."

Social conservatives are idiotic busy bodies.
2013-05-02 07:03:35 AM
2 votes:
Why is the Obama administration fighting this?
2013-05-02 10:30:34 AM
1 votes:

James!: So they're arguing to put the age limit at 15.  ZOMG, worst president ever.


The issue isn't age; it's that now a government issued ID is required for purchase.  My 15-year-old didn't have an ID.  And as we know from the last election, a statistically significant portion of the population doesn't.

Further, this med cost $50.  If an 11-year-old is eating Plan B like candy, she has too much allowance.
2013-05-02 09:24:11 AM
1 votes:

heinekenftw: Here's what I don't get.  The conservatives rail against welfare, but then they rail against systems that would limit the number of children being placed in the welfare system (contraception, abortion.)

It doesn't make sense.

At least with contraception, there's no ethical concerns over killing a developed fetus (at best, the morning after pill stops a fetus that's barely even began division?)

It only leads to fewer unwanted children on the welfare system.  People can ramble about abstinence all they want, but in practicality, contraception works much better than abstinence.

And yeah, I don't understand Obama's gameplan here.


Many abortion opponents sincerely believe that the termination of a fertilized egg, even one that has not divided once, is an act of willful, premeditated murder equivalent to the killing of a five-year old human child. If such a belief is incomprehensible or nonsensical to you, consider that you lack the perspective of someone who is completely insane and who willfully ignores reality.
2013-05-02 09:10:33 AM
1 votes:
With the appeal, the government is making clear that it's willing to ease access to emergency contraception only a certain amount - not nearly as broadly as doctors' groups and contraception advocates have urged.

Because why should the government listen to experts.
2013-05-02 09:07:54 AM
1 votes:
This isn't surprising; as someone noted, having the courts decides what is and is not a controlled prescription drug sets a risky precedent for the government in general and the FDA in particular.

The Obama administration, though, ought to be fully vilified for allowing the FDA to make the original choice as a political consideration and not a health consideration. That's where he shiat the bed on this subject and that is where he should have originally been held accountable for the bad policy and bad decision. The FDA should be making decisions based on scientific evidence and not politics.
2013-05-02 09:06:20 AM
1 votes:

heinekenftw: Here's what I don't get.  The conservatives rail against welfare, but then they rail against systems that would limit the number of children being placed in the welfare system (contraception, abortion.)

It doesn't make sense.

At least with contraception, there's no ethical concerns over killing a developed fetus (at best, the morning after pill stops a fetus that's barely even began division?)

It only leads to fewer unwanted children on the welfare system.  People can ramble about abstinence all they want, but in practicality, contraception works much better than abstinence.

And yeah, I don't understand Obama's gameplan here.


It's part of the prosperity gospel.  Conservatives think that people are poor because of their sinful/bad decisions and lack of work ethic, and thus they SHOULDN'T thrive or be helped, because to help them would be to reward such immoral behavior.  Basically: "See honey, see that single mom working a dead end job without health insurance? Guess she should've KEPT HER LEGS SHUT!"
2013-05-02 08:59:48 AM
1 votes:

Tomahawk513: TofuTheAlmighty: Lost Thought 00: 100% of the blame goes to Obama for this

I genuinely have no idea why he's pursuing this. Obama cannot be so knuckledraggingly stupid that he thinks GOPers will lend him support because he makes birth control harder to get. (Same as with the ramped up deportations and cannabis prosecutions.)

This is like watching your favorite team make some boneheaded play and cost themselves the game.  I don't know what the heck he's thinking with this.  He could singlehandedly reduce unemployment to 4%, increase middle class wealth, and bring peace and secular stability to the Middle East and Republicans still wouldn't have the decency to piss on his leg if it was on fire.  I don't know what his thought process is behind this one.  I'm really disappointed.


He did this because  the judge undermined the rulemaking of his administration and that cannot stand.  It is pure authoritarianism bleeding through.
2013-05-02 08:58:12 AM
1 votes:

Lexx: My understanding is that it's safe to use as indicated.  We're not considering the use case where girls who can't get access to the pill attempt to use "Plan B" as a regular birth control?


Plan-B is priced at about $40. How many teenagers do you think can afford Plan-B but can't get regular birth control? Even if that were an issue, it's more of an argument to make regular birth control more accessible.

/plan-b: most shoplifted product of all time
2013-05-02 08:53:34 AM
1 votes:
Great.  Stem cell research is next on the chopping block.  God damn Obama, why do you have to be so liberal conservative?
2013-05-02 08:52:26 AM
1 votes:
Why does Obama hate women?
2013-05-02 08:49:01 AM
1 votes:

cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?



Because they have to.  It's the first time a court has reversed a decision by the FDA with regard to how a medication is prescribed.  It sets a precedent for the courts to decide how drugs are approved.Albeit, the FDA really screwed this up by letting politics get in the way of the approval process of Plan B.I guess no one at the FDA thought through the consequences when they made that decision.
2013-05-02 08:48:48 AM
1 votes:

Lexx: At the same time, I really don't think we should be giving out hormonal birth control anything without even a consult with the pharmacist, but I do understand how young girls might be too intimidated to ask.


Birth control and sex hormone treatments are among the safest drugs ever produced. Waaaay safer than aspirin, acetaminophen, robitussin, etc. Should teens have to consult a doc or pharmacist to take those?
2013-05-02 08:46:48 AM
1 votes:
"We are deeply disappointed that just days after President Obama proclaimed his commitment to women's reproductive rights, his administration has decided once again to deprive women of their right to obtain emergency contraception without unjustified and burdensome restrictions," said Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, which filed the lawsuit that prompted Korman's ruling.

I think we can officially add 'Obama' to the list of people stubbornly standing in the way of the Obama Administration.  What a useless twat he's turned out to be.
2013-05-02 08:45:41 AM
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: Lexx: DubyaHater: Just what we need........both sides intruding on a woman's reproductive rights.  This should be a decision made between a woman and her physician.  The FDA made a step in the right direction yesterday, and now the Justice Dept wants to reverse that.  Women, especially teenagers, need better access to birth control.  Some of these politicians should step foot in my clinic once in a while and see the number of teenagers who end up pregnant.

Uh dude, the court decision is that young girls of any age don't NEED to see a physician, or even speak to a pharmacist, to buy the morning after pill.  I'm all for "a woman's health is hers and her doctor's concern only" but that's not what this is about.

At the same time, I really don't think we should be giving out hormonal birth control anything without even a consult with the pharmacist, but I do understand how young girls might be too intimidated to ask.

The only question is whether it is safe or not. Unless you are a gynocologist, shut up on the matter.


My understanding is that it's safe to use as indicated.  We're not considering the use case where girls who can't get access to the pill attempt to use "Plan B" as a regular birth control?
2013-05-02 08:43:21 AM
1 votes:

Lexx: DubyaHater: Just what we need........both sides intruding on a woman's reproductive rights.  This should be a decision made between a woman and her physician.  The FDA made a step in the right direction yesterday, and now the Justice Dept wants to reverse that.  Women, especially teenagers, need better access to birth control.  Some of these politicians should step foot in my clinic once in a while and see the number of teenagers who end up pregnant.

Uh dude, the court decision is that young girls of any age don't NEED to see a physician, or even speak to a pharmacist, to buy the morning after pill.  I'm all for "a woman's health is hers and her doctor's concern only" but that's not what this is about.

At the same time, I really don't think we should be giving out hormonal birth control anything without even a consult with the pharmacist, but I do understand how young girls might be too intimidated to ask.


The only question is whether it is safe or not. Unless you are a gynocologist, shut up on the matter.
2013-05-02 08:40:14 AM
1 votes:
While your at it, how about you just let me buy some cold medicine without jumping through hoops?
2013-05-02 08:40:10 AM
1 votes:

DubyaHater: Just what we need........both sides intruding on a woman's reproductive rights.  This should be a decision made between a woman and her physician.  The FDA made a step in the right direction yesterday, and now the Justice Dept wants to reverse that.  Women, especially teenagers, need better access to birth control.  Some of these politicians should step foot in my clinic once in a while and see the number of teenagers who end up pregnant.


Uh dude, the court decision is that young girls of any age don't NEED to see a physician, or even speak to a pharmacist, to buy the morning after pill.  I'm all for "a woman's health is hers and her doctor's concern only" but that's not what this is about.

At the same time, I really don't think we should be giving out hormonal birth control anything without even a consult with the pharmacist, but I do understand how young girls might be too intimidated to ask.
2013-05-02 08:14:46 AM
1 votes:

Target Builder: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?

He's a lot more conservative than a lot of people, conservatives and liberals, think he is.


I think the word you are looking for is authoritarian.
2013-05-02 08:10:18 AM
1 votes:

cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


He's a lot more conservative than a lot of people, conservatives and liberals, think he is.
2013-05-02 08:00:14 AM
1 votes:
Sometimes I wonder who's in charge of the Justice Department.  Do they still have a ton of Liberty University grads there?
2013-05-02 07:58:04 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Peter von Nostrand: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?

Trolling Republicans

Wait...because republicans are trolling, or he's trolling republicans?


It is probably because allowing 11 year olds to buy it to avoid getting pregnant will be spun as "Obama is okay with 11 year olds having sex"
2013-05-02 07:57:51 AM
1 votes:

Free Radical: "Social conservatives were outraged by the FDA's move to lower the age limits for Plan B - as well as the possibility that Korman's ruling might take effect and lift age restrictions altogether."

Social conservatives are idiotic busy bodies.


"But my daughter's abortion was different!"
2013-05-02 07:56:24 AM
1 votes:
Tell me again how Obama is the libbiest lib that ever libbed?
 
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