Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CBS News)   Justice Department files morning after appeal to abort morning-after pill   (cbsnews.com ) divider line
    More: Followup, Justice Department, Center for Reproductive Rights, cabinet secretary, morning-after pills, Kathleen Sebelius, Nancy Northup, appeal  
•       •       •

2026 clicks; posted to Politics » on 02 May 2013 at 7:49 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



131 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2013-05-02 09:10:33 AM  
With the appeal, the government is making clear that it's willing to ease access to emergency contraception only a certain amount - not nearly as broadly as doctors' groups and contraception advocates have urged.

Because why should the government listen to experts.
 
2013-05-02 09:11:10 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Saiga410: He did this because  the judge undermined the rulemaking of his administration and that cannot stand.  It is pure authoritarianism bleeding through.

1. Administration makes a decision
2. Judge rules to override that decision
3. Administration appeals ruling to return to original policy

I'm pretty sure this is handled by a reasonably simple shell script running on a server under someone's desk. No need to get all "Obama is teh authoritarianz" about it. The administration made their policy based on what they probably think is sound reasoning and don't want to see it overridden by one guy with an ax to grind.


The original decision was purely political and represented the administration cowering to social conservative interests for political gain, not scientific evidence that age limits were necessary for public health reasons. The administration, FDA in particular, made bad policy for the wrong reasons.
 
2013-05-02 09:11:11 AM  

Jackson Herring: coeyagi: In before "Fark Liberal Elite Circle Jerk Club (need to find that badge someone created) is showing their unilateral support for Obama regardless of his position even though all evidence in this thread is to the contrary!"

[i.imgur.com image 301x376]


Ok, but can you add an obese dog into that badge?

//jk
 
2013-05-02 09:12:49 AM  

coeyagi: Jackson Herring: coeyagi: In before "Fark Liberal Elite Circle Jerk Club (need to find that badge someone created) is showing their unilateral support for Obama regardless of his position even though all evidence in this thread is to the contrary!"

[i.imgur.com image 301x376]

Ok, but can you add an obese dog into that badge?

//jk


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-02 09:13:28 AM  

ZaxTrax: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


Because they have to.  It's the first time a court has reversed a decision by the FDA with regard to how a medication is prescribed.  It sets a precedent for the courts to decide how drugs are approved.Albeit, the FDA really screwed this up by letting politics get in the way of the approval process of Plan B.I guess no one at the FDA thought through the consequences when they made that decision.


That makes a lot of sense.
 
2013-05-02 09:15:32 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Saiga410: He did this because  the judge undermined the rulemaking of his administration and that cannot stand.  It is pure authoritarianism bleeding through.

1. Administration makes a decision
2. Judge rules to override that decision
3. Administration appeals ruling to return to original policy

I'm pretty sure this is handled by a reasonably simple shell script running on a server under someone's desk. No need to get all "Obama is teh authoritarianz" about it. The administration made their policy based on what they probably think is sound reasoning and don't want to see it overridden by one guy with an ax to grind.


The appeal seems right to me, as much as I dislike the FDAs decision. Its one thing for the judge to say "you ignored your own experts and medical science. In doing so, your rule is arbitrary and capricious. Go back and do it right this time.". Its a whole different ballgame to tack "oh, btw, let me just write your new rule for you" on at the end...even if the result is the same. The process and separation of powers is important.

/on my phone, didn't read the new rule or decision
 
2013-05-02 09:19:04 AM  

heinekenftw: It doesn't make sense.


It's a legal issue, the judge ruled that there be absolutely no age restrictions and the FDA put the age requirement at 15 instead.  The Justice department is appealing the judge's ruling in favor of that of the FDA.  Which it should, they can't just go against the judge's ruling, they have to appeal it and see if the ruling gets overturned.

You can buy condoms in gas station bathrooms.
 
2013-05-02 09:19:31 AM  
Uh, didn't he get reelected?  Why is he STILL trying to appeal to social conservatives?  It's not like they'll give him any honoraria when he's ex-President.
 
2013-05-02 09:22:16 AM  
So they're arguing to put the age limit at 15.  ZOMG, worst president ever.
 
2013-05-02 09:24:11 AM  

heinekenftw: Here's what I don't get.  The conservatives rail against welfare, but then they rail against systems that would limit the number of children being placed in the welfare system (contraception, abortion.)

It doesn't make sense.

At least with contraception, there's no ethical concerns over killing a developed fetus (at best, the morning after pill stops a fetus that's barely even began division?)

It only leads to fewer unwanted children on the welfare system.  People can ramble about abstinence all they want, but in practicality, contraception works much better than abstinence.

And yeah, I don't understand Obama's gameplan here.


Many abortion opponents sincerely believe that the termination of a fertilized egg, even one that has not divided once, is an act of willful, premeditated murder equivalent to the killing of a five-year old human child. If such a belief is incomprehensible or nonsensical to you, consider that you lack the perspective of someone who is completely insane and who willfully ignores reality.
 
2013-05-02 09:25:26 AM  

Target Builder: ZaxTrax: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


Because they have to.  It's the first time a court has reversed a decision by the FDA with regard to how a medication is prescribed.  It sets a precedent for the courts to decide how drugs are approved.Albeit, the FDA really screwed this up by letting politics get in the way of the approval process of Plan B.I guess no one at the FDA thought through the consequences when they made that decision.

That makes a lot of sense.


Yes.
And Big Pharma ain't having any of that. Not for a New York minute.
 
2013-05-02 09:25:27 AM  
i895.photobucket.com i895.photobucket.com i895.photobucket.com i895.photobucket.com i895.photobucket.com
An age limit!!
 
2013-05-02 09:28:07 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Target Builder: ZaxTrax: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


Because they have to.  It's the first time a court has reversed a decision by the FDA with regard to how a medication is prescribed.  It sets a precedent for the courts to decide how drugs are approved.Albeit, the FDA really screwed this up by letting politics get in the way of the approval process of Plan B.I guess no one at the FDA thought through the consequences when they made that decision.

That makes a lot of sense.

Yes.
And Big Pharma ain't having any of that. Not for a New York minute.


This also strips the genertic from the shelves while keeping planb available.....  doesn't big pharma have deep pockets?
 
2013-05-02 09:28:28 AM  
The FDA shouldn't allow politics or personal opinions intrude in decisions it makes regarding the safety and availability of medical treatments.
 
2013-05-02 09:30:52 AM  

Saiga410: HotIgneous Intruder: Target Builder: ZaxTrax: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


Because they have to.  It's the first time a court has reversed a decision by the FDA with regard to how a medication is prescribed.  It sets a precedent for the courts to decide how drugs are approved.Albeit, the FDA really screwed this up by letting politics get in the way of the approval process of Plan B.I guess no one at the FDA thought through the consequences when they made that decision.

That makes a lot of sense.

Yes.
And Big Pharma ain't having any of that. Not for a New York minute.

This also strips the genertic from the shelves while keeping planb available.....  doesn't big pharma have deep pockets?


It only removes the generic from the shelves if the appeals court stays the lower courts decision while they hear the case. The original decision would have allowed the generic to also be available.
 
2013-05-02 09:33:49 AM  

Target Builder: cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?

He's a lot more conservative than a lot of people, conservatives and liberals, think he is.


He is solidly an economic liberal.  That is all.  Everything else is issue based.  He happens to pro-choice and pro-gay, which is wonderful, but he doesn't get there by way of having an individual rights position that he stands by, or you would see it across a range of other issues.  It's an a le carte selection, not a matter of declaring a set of principles and standing by them even when they favor something you find distasteful.   Labels that apply here are "leftist" and "Democrat."
 
2013-05-02 09:36:06 AM  

Lexx: DubyaHater: Just what we need........both sides intruding on a woman's reproductive rights.  This should be a decision made between a woman and her physician.  The FDA made a step in the right direction yesterday, and now the Justice Dept wants to reverse that.  Women, especially teenagers, need better access to birth control.  Some of these politicians should step foot in my clinic once in a while and see the number of teenagers who end up pregnant.

Uh dude, the court decision is that young girls of any age don't NEED to see a physician, or even speak to a pharmacist, to buy the morning after pill.  I'm all for "a woman's health is hers and her doctor's concern only" but that's not what this is about.

At the same time, I really don't think we should be giving out hormonal birth control anything without even a consult with the pharmacist, but I do understand how young girls might be too intimidated to ask.


And pharmacists might be too republican to help young girls in need, as we've seen like dozens of times over the last decade.
 
2013-05-02 09:39:32 AM  

dr_blasto: This isn't surprising; as someone noted, having the courts decides what is and is not a controlled prescription drug sets a risky precedent for the government in general and the FDA in particular.

The Obama administration, though, ought to be fully vilified for allowing the FDA to make the original choice as a political consideration and not a health consideration. That's where he shiat the bed on this subject and that is where he should have originally been held accountable for the bad policy and bad decision. The FDA should be making decisions based on scientific evidence and not politics.


Like global warming?
 
2013-05-02 09:47:07 AM  

James!: So they're arguing to put the age limit at 15.  ZOMG, worst president ever.


No, the Justice Department is trying to overturn the judges decision lowering the age from 17 to 15.
 
2013-05-02 09:55:25 AM  

Jackson Herring: James!: So they're arguing to put the age limit at 15.  ZOMG, worst president ever.

No, the Justice Department is trying to overturn the judges decision lowering the age from 17 to 15.


Read the first two paragraphs of the article.
 
2013-05-02 10:01:00 AM  

ikanreed: Lexx: DubyaHater: Just what we need........both sides intruding on a woman's reproductive rights.  This should be a decision made between a woman and her physician.  The FDA made a step in the right direction yesterday, and now the Justice Dept wants to reverse that.  Women, especially teenagers, need better access to birth control.  Some of these politicians should step foot in my clinic once in a while and see the number of teenagers who end up pregnant.

Uh dude, the court decision is that young girls of any age don't NEED to see a physician, or even speak to a pharmacist, to buy the morning after pill.  I'm all for "a woman's health is hers and her doctor's concern only" but that's not what this is about.

At the same time, I really don't think we should be giving out hormonal birth control anything without even a consult with the pharmacist, but I do understand how young girls might be too intimidated to ask.

And pharmacists might be too republican to help young girls in need, as we've seen like dozens of times over the last decade.


That's a whole other issue, and personally I think that pharmacists should have their license pulled for pulling that kind of bullshiat.
 
2013-05-02 10:05:41 AM  

Rapmaster2000: You know who else was a lib that hated abortion.  That's right...

Most communist commie that ever communed.


well, at least romania gave him a shot. and his wife.

/tyrannical dictator ≠ "lib"
 
2013-05-02 10:14:28 AM  

ComicBookGuy: Uh, didn't he get reelected?  Why is he STILL trying to appeal to social conservatives?  It's not like they'll give him any honoraria when he's ex-President.


Because he himself is pretty conservative on just about every issue. If you haven't caught on at this point you should probably wear water wings whenever you eat soup from now on.

So turn the question around. Why should he do anything to appeal to liberals? He isn't running for reelection.
 
2013-05-02 10:17:10 AM  

mrshowrules: dr_blasto: This isn't surprising; as someone noted, having the courts decides what is and is not a controlled prescription drug sets a risky precedent for the government in general and the FDA in particular.

The Obama administration, though, ought to be fully vilified for allowing the FDA to make the original choice as a political consideration and not a health consideration. That's where he shiat the bed on this subject and that is where he should have originally been held accountable for the bad policy and bad decision. The FDA should be making decisions based on scientific evidence and not politics.

Like global warming?


Well, I'm not sure what the FDA has to do with climate change, but for the appropriate regulatory agencies, yes.
 
2013-05-02 10:30:34 AM  

James!: So they're arguing to put the age limit at 15.  ZOMG, worst president ever.


The issue isn't age; it's that now a government issued ID is required for purchase.  My 15-year-old didn't have an ID.  And as we know from the last election, a statistically significant portion of the population doesn't.

Further, this med cost $50.  If an 11-year-old is eating Plan B like candy, she has too much allowance.
 
2013-05-02 10:35:36 AM  

cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


You can come up with a lot of politically motivated reasons, but I'd bet that it's because it is generally the position of the Justice Department to advocate for standing law to the best of their ability in court, and no one in the administration feels like this is an important enough issue to give it special consideration.

The default is for them to defend the law.
 
2013-05-02 10:40:18 AM  

Wendolyn the Wired: James!: So they're arguing to put the age limit at 15.  ZOMG, worst president ever.

The issue isn't age; it's that now a government issued ID is required for purchase.  My 15-year-old didn't have an ID.  And as we know from the last election, a statistically significant portion of the population doesn't.

Further, this med cost $50.  If an 11-year-old is eating Plan B like candy, she has too much allowance.


If an 11 year old is eating Plan B at all there is a serious problem going on in their lives.
 
2013-05-02 11:01:07 AM  
The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?
 
2013-05-02 11:12:24 AM  

Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?


Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.
 
2013-05-02 11:20:46 AM  

James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.


If I was a Pharmacist, I would place it on the counter in front of her and say.  "I'm going on break now".
 
2013-05-02 11:34:15 AM  

Theaetetus: What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?


Probably the same dude that's f*ckin' 'em.
 
2013-05-02 11:35:37 AM  

mrshowrules: James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.

If I was a Pharmacist, I would place it on the counter in front of her and say.  "I'm going on break now".


Probably not a bad idea, after you ask her if she needs any help or if someone is hurting her.
 
2013-05-02 11:54:20 AM  
FTA - "allow girls and women of any age to buy "

are men not allowed to buy this product? I know in the past I could have used it as a solution or a bargaining chip.
 
2013-05-02 12:26:51 PM  
WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE?
 
2013-05-02 12:46:24 PM  

cman: Why is the Obama administration fighting this?


Because, despite what the ravings of Tea Partiers might lead you to believe, President Obama is not particularly liberal. He's arguably the most conservative democrat to hold the presidency since FDR first won office.

Wendolyn the Wired: The issue isn't age; it's that now a government issued ID is required for purchase. My 15-year-old didn't have an ID. And as we know from the last election, a statistically significant portion of the population doesn't.


Generally tending to be poorer, and thus less likely to be able to afford regular use of contraceptive techniques less failure prone than rhythm/prayer methods, and whose economic margin will be more heavily impacted by having a baby.
 
2013-05-02 12:50:15 PM  
Deptartment?
 
2013-05-02 01:11:09 PM  
On what possible grounds can they oppose this?  I don't see them taking a stance against any other medicines that are out on the shelves, this is just hypocrisy that hurts young women.
 
2013-05-02 01:20:44 PM  

James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.


When you're done fighting that strawman, you could explain why it's better that an 11 year old should go through an invasive surgical procedure rather than take a pill that prevents pregnancy.
 
2013-05-02 01:24:57 PM  

Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.

When you're done fighting that strawman, you could explain why it's better that an 11 year old should go through an invasive surgical procedure rather than take a pill that prevents pregnancy.


Really? Abortion is the only other option if the hypothetical 11 year old can't just walk in and buy plan B? It's unfettered access, abortion or having a kid? Why have we been cursed with only three options!?
 
2013-05-02 01:30:21 PM  

James!: Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.

When you're done fighting that strawman, you could explain why it's better that an 11 year old should go through an invasive surgical procedure rather than take a pill that prevents pregnancy.

Really? Abortion is the only other option if the hypothetical 11 year old can't just walk in and buy plan B? It's unfettered access, abortion or having a kid? Why have we been cursed with only three options!?


Well, since we lack the ability to teleport fetuses from the womb, I'm not sure what else you're suggesting. You've got an 11 year old with a fertilized egg in transit. It's not going to end well in any way, but Plan B is the best option, and you've got limited time.

Of course, I know what you're suggesting with your concern trolling. But what you're implying is that, yes, you want pregnant 11 year olds to either have abortions or go through labor. And that's pretty despicable.
 
2013-05-02 01:35:33 PM  

Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.

When you're done fighting that strawman, you could explain why it's better that an 11 year old should go through an invasive surgical procedure rather than take a pill that prevents pregnancy.

Really? Abortion is the only other option if the hypothetical 11 year old can't just walk in and buy plan B? It's unfettered access, abortion or having a kid? Why have we been cursed with only three options!?

Well, since we lack the ability to teleport fetuses from the womb, I'm not sure what else you're suggesting. You've got an 11 year old with a fertilized egg in transit. It's not going to end well in any way, but Plan B is the best option, and you've got limited time.

Of course, I know what you're suggesting with your concern trolling. But what you're implying is that, yes, you want pregnant 11 year olds to either have abortions or go through labor. And that's pretty despicable.


Who afflicted is with only these limited choices? WHAT KIND OF GOD ALLOWS ONLY THREE VERY SPECIFIC OPTIONS FOR THESE CHILDREN!?!?!
 
2013-05-02 01:36:15 PM  
Honestly though, I'm starting to think you aren't even aware of what's being debated here.
 
2013-05-02 01:44:16 PM  
I just love coming into threads about the Justice Department doing whatever-the-fark and seeing people blame Obama personally for their actions. It feels great knowing I share this country with you mouthbreathers.

/sarcasm off
 
2013-05-02 01:45:37 PM  

James!: Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: The FDA actually had been poised to lift all age limits and let Plan B sell over the counter in late 2011, when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled her own scientists. Sebelius said some girls as young as 11 were physically capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own.

... because 11 year olds who have sex should be forced to get pregnant? What kind of sick fark wants pregnant 11 year olds?

Basically if an 11 year old can't walk into a pharmacy and buy plan B no questions asked there are no alternatives for her and she will have to have the child.  It's a cruel world.

When you're done fighting that strawman, you could explain why it's better that an 11 year old should go through an invasive surgical procedure rather than take a pill that prevents pregnancy.

Really? Abortion is the only other option if the hypothetical 11 year old can't just walk in and buy plan B? It's unfettered access, abortion or having a kid? Why have we been cursed with only three options!?

Well, since we lack the ability to teleport fetuses from the womb, I'm not sure what else you're suggesting. You've got an 11 year old with a fertilized egg in transit. It's not going to end well in any way, but Plan B is the best option, and you've got limited time.

Of course, I know what you're suggesting with your concern trolling. But what you're implying is that, yes, you want pregnant 11 year olds to either have abortions or go through labor. And that's pretty despicable.

Who afflicted is with only these limited choices? WHAT KIND OF GOD ALLOWS ONLY THREE VERY SPECIFIC OPTIONS FOR THESE CHILDREN!?!?!


[eyeroll]
When you're done with your hysterics, would you like to suggest a third option for a pregnant 11 year old? Or would you like to admit that you don't actually have anything to offer other than trolling?
 
2013-05-02 01:48:48 PM  

Theaetetus: [eyeroll]
When you're done with your hysterics, would you like to suggest a third option for a pregnant 11 year old? Or would you like to admit that you don't actually have anything to offer other than trolling?


Simple, she could speak to an adult.  Say a parent or school counselor or a doctor and have them procure plan B for her.

You definition of trolling is deep and wide my friend. Just because people don't agree with you or give you the deference you think you deserve it doesn't mean they're trolling you.
 
2013-05-02 01:50:50 PM  

James!: Simple, she could speak to an adult.  Say a parent or school counselor or a doctor and have them procure plan B for her.


In New York or Cali, this sounds like a good idea.

I fear for the girl's health in a midwestern/southern state. All it takes is her speaking to a fundie idiot for the shiat to hit the fan.
 
2013-05-02 01:54:34 PM  

James!: Theaetetus: [eyeroll]
When you're done with your hysterics, would you like to suggest a third option for a pregnant 11 year old? Or would you like to admit that you don't actually have anything to offer other than trolling?

Simple, she could speak to an adult.  Say a parent or school counselor or a doctor and have them procure plan B for her.


WHAAAAAAT?!! But YOU just said that there were OTHER options than Plan B, abortion, or labor!! HOW CAN THIS BEEEEEEE?!! WHAT KIND OF GOD WOULD ALLOW YOU TO BE SUCH A DOUCHE!?!?

Anyways, fark off, you trolling piece of shiat.
 
2013-05-02 01:54:45 PM  

un4gvn666: James!: Simple, she could speak to an adult.  Say a parent or school counselor or a doctor and have them procure plan B for her.

In New York or Cali, this sounds like a good idea.

I fear for the girl's health in a midwestern/southern state. All it takes is her speaking to a fundie idiot for the shiat to hit the fan.


If it's as bad as you say then the pharmacist/drug store cashier is just as risky.
 
2013-05-02 01:56:33 PM  

Theaetetus: James!: Theaetetus: [eyeroll]
When you're done with your hysterics, would you like to suggest a third option for a pregnant 11 year old? Or would you like to admit that you don't actually have anything to offer other than trolling?

Simple, she could speak to an adult.  Say a parent or school counselor or a doctor and have them procure plan B for her.

WHAAAAAAT?!! But YOU just said that there were OTHER options than Plan B, abortion, or labor!! HOW CAN THIS BEEEEEEE?!! WHAT KIND OF GOD WOULD ALLOW YOU TO BE SUCH A DOUCHE!?!?

Anyways, fark off, you trolling piece of shiat.


Oh so you don't know what anyone is talking about.  The question, friend, is if an 11 year old should be able to buy it by herself.  We are talking about an age restriction at 15.

Unless it gets your rocks off to come into a thread and completely miss what everyone else is talking about and then flame them.
 
2013-05-02 01:57:37 PM  
Reading into this more http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/justice-department-appeals-morn i ng-after-pill-ruling-90842_Page2.html
It seems what is really happening is that the Justice Department is trying to stop the idea that District Courts can set FDA policy nation-wide. This isn't about the morning after pill as much is it about jurisdiction.
 
Displayed 50 of 131 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter








In Other Media
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report