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(News 14 Carolina)   Charlotte mayor--out the door to Obama's cabinet--signs paper declaring the "National Day Of Prayer" to be a "Day Of Reason" instead. Some people not happy about this   (charlotte.news14.com) divider line 112
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2013-05-02 06:34:20 AM
I have an idea

Keep the day of prayer and make a day of reason on a different day. This way you wont piss off the religious folk.
 
2013-05-02 06:44:49 AM
An atheist and agnostic group is hoping to provide an alternative to non-believers, but some pastors said the move is offensive.

Hey, look at that. They're offended by your prayer and your offended by their reason. Everyone's offended. It's the American way.


Also, you'll get over it, Padres.
 
2013-05-02 06:49:49 AM
What the hell is a mayor-out and cabinet-signs?
 
2013-05-02 06:50:55 AM
"It's an affront in many ways. I think the fact that the National Day of Prayer was established as a time to cry out to God and yet we find that declaring this National Day of Reason is somehow saying that human reasoning has offered more hope," said Harris.


I mean we specifically set this day up to exclude some people and here you go and be all inclusive.
 
2013-05-02 07:00:22 AM

cman: I have an idea

Keep the day of prayer and make a day of reason on a different day. This way you wont piss off the religious folk.


How about religious people get down from their cross and realize they don't need a day of prayer to legitimize their faith?

/religious
//doesn't need a day of prayer
///Matthew 6:5 biatch
 
2013-05-02 07:00:34 AM
I can't parse the headline.
 
2013-05-02 07:00:50 AM
lolz for people being offended by a day of being reasonable. 

I AM UNREASONABLE AND I INTEND TO STAY THAT WAY!!
 
2013-05-02 07:07:35 AM

keylock71: An atheist and agnostic group is hoping to provide an alternative to non-believers, but some pastors said the move is offensive.

Hey, look at that. They're offended by your prayer and your offended by their reason. Everyone's offended. It's the American way.


Also, you'll get over it, Padres.


Christians are persecuted by non-Christians having equality.
 
2013-05-02 07:07:48 AM
I pray that using hyphens for commas doesn-t catch on. That would be unreasonable.
 
2013-05-02 07:09:14 AM
I say we cut off Piggy's head and put it on a pole.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
 
2013-05-02 07:11:59 AM
So everyone now acknowledges that religion is the enemy of reason?
 
2013-05-02 07:12:02 AM
"I frankly thought there must be some sort of misunderstanding or mistake but then, I actually looked at the proclamation read the order and thought, wow," said Pastor Mark Harris of First Baptist Church in Charlotte.

To paraphrase David Willis, "Welcome to the background radiation of non-believers lives."
 
2013-05-02 07:13:12 AM

Barfmaker: What the hell is a mayor-out and cabinet-signs?


Mayor Fox has been nominated as Transportation Secretary. I have no clue why. His big transportation idea for Charlotte was a trolley virtually no one else wants that would not solve a single traffic problem.
 
2013-05-02 07:13:57 AM

sendtodave: keylock71: An atheist and agnostic group is hoping to provide an alternative to non-believers, but some pastors said the move is offensive.

Hey, look at that. They're offended by your prayer and your offended by their reason. Everyone's offended. It's the American way.


Also, you'll get over it, Padres.

Christians are persecuted by non-Christians having equality.


Heh... They do seem to get offended and whine about "persecution" an awful lot in this country.

For followers of an omnipotent god, they do seem to be quite insecure about their beliefs.
 
2013-05-02 07:15:33 AM

EvilEgg: "It's an affront in many ways. I think the fact that the National Day of Prayer was established as a time to cry out to God and yet we find that declaring this National Day of Reason is somehow saying that human reasoning has offered more hope," said Harris.


He says from his air-conditioned office, via his computer connected to the sum repository of human knowledge, having his words broadcast to every corner of the globe, with the picture of his wife (who didn't die in child birth) and his two children (both of whom lived past the first year) on his desk, right after taking medication for his high blood pressure.
 
2013-05-02 07:15:58 AM
Well as a reasoning Carolinian, I salute this move.

Even if it a cowardly act to hit the button on the way out the door so none of it gets on you.

/See? Reasoning!
 
2013-05-02 07:16:52 AM
Why the fark do we have a government-sanctioned day of prayer anyway?
 
2013-05-02 07:17:06 AM

sammyk: Barfmaker: What the hell is a mayor-out and cabinet-signs?

Mayor Fox has been nominated as Transportation Secretary. I have no clue why. His big transportation idea for Charlotte was a trolley virtually no one else wants that would not solve a single traffic problem.


What does he know about Benghazi? Hmmmmmm.... bet you didn't think of it from that angle
 
2013-05-02 07:18:10 AM

jayhawk88: EvilEgg: "It's an affront in many ways. I think the fact that the National Day of Prayer was established as a time to cry out to God and yet we find that declaring this National Day of Reason is somehow saying that human reasoning has offered more hope," said Harris.

He says from his air-conditioned office, via his computer connected to the sum repository of human knowledge, having his words broadcast to every corner of the globe, with the picture of his wife (who didn't die in child birth) and his two children (both of whom lived past the first year) on his desk, right after taking medication for his high blood pressure.


God did all of that.
 
2013-05-02 07:18:50 AM
"Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense." - Voltaire
 
2013-05-02 07:19:59 AM

LordJiro: Why the fark do we have a government-sanctioned day of prayer anyway?


Why do we have Christmas as a sanctioned holiday when it is a Christian holiday?
 
2013-05-02 07:20:36 AM
State-sponsored prayer?  Yeah, it needed to go anyway.
 
2013-05-02 07:24:36 AM

cman: LordJiro: Why the fark do we have a government-sanctioned day of prayer anyway?

Why do we have Christmas as a sanctioned holiday when it is a Christian holiday?


Christian origins, maybe. But the modern Christmas is almost entirely secularized. The "standard" Christmas and the religious one are practically completely different holidays that just happen to be on the same day. Same goes for Easter.
 
2013-05-02 07:26:40 AM

Dracolich: State-sponsored prayer?  Yeah, it needed to go anyway.


My wife is a public school teacher. It happens ALL the time but they've gotten smarter about the nomenclature. "Moment of Reflection." "Moment of Silence" "Moment of Reasoning." "Moment of Angular Velocity" etc etc

Ten bucks says this is still a public prayer, they've just decided to not be quite so overt.
 
2013-05-02 07:27:14 AM
Every-time we Democrats do a good job of convincing the middle-class moderates that we aren't gonna fark with their guns, bibles, or values, some dipshiat has to sign something stupid like this.

Just do it on a different day and everybody could have been happy.
 
2013-05-02 07:28:55 AM

LordJiro: cman: LordJiro: Why the fark do we have a government-sanctioned day of prayer anyway?

Why do we have Christmas as a sanctioned holiday when it is a Christian holiday?

Christian origins, maybe. But the modern Christmas is almost entirely secularized. The "standard" Christmas and the religious one are practically completely different holidays that just happen to be on the same day. Same goes for Easter.


It's now a 3 month shopping season, and growing.
 
2013-05-02 07:30:34 AM
I don't need any politician promoting any beliefs.

so lets get stop the national day of __________ already.

Unless its bacon or beer.
 
2013-05-02 07:31:56 AM
The Day of Reason is a national movement that coincides with the congressionally-mandated National Day of Prayer.

I think the author might not understand the word mandated. Either that or Obama's super-atheist jackbooted thugs of secular terror are preventing Congress from forcing allowing me to pray.

cman: I have an idea

Keep the day of prayer and make a day of reason on a different day. This way you wont piss off the religious folk.


Or we could just drop the government recognized day of prayer because it's a violation of the first amendment. Although, to be fair, pissing off the type of people who would be offended by that is just a bonus.
 
2013-05-02 07:35:15 AM
It ties in with many southern States celebrating Robert E Lee day. On Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Perfect sense.
 
2013-05-02 07:41:37 AM

cman: This way you wont piss off the religious folk


Why do rational people have to dedicate their lives to avoiding pissing off religious folk?
 
2013-05-02 07:44:38 AM
How about a national day of non-prayer? Arrest anyone caught praying in public.
 
2013-05-02 07:45:28 AM

Muta: cman: This way you wont piss off the religious folk

Why do rational people have to dedicate their lives to avoiding pissing off religious folk?


Because religious folk have been known to be very fanatical if they believe you are trying to destroy their religion
 
2013-05-02 07:50:02 AM

Lost Thought 00: How about a national day of non-prayer? Arrest anyone caught praying in public.


How about a few hundred ot them?  Somewhere between 3-400 per year?

But then, well, Christians erally would be persecuted, and that would make them too happy.
 
2013-05-02 07:52:09 AM

sendtodave: Christians are persecuted by non-Christians having equality.


^^this^^

Nothing incites frothing at the mouth rage in a christian than making them merely equal to everyone else.
 
2013-05-02 07:52:31 AM

sammyk: Barfmaker: What the hell is a mayor-out and cabinet-signs?

Mayor Fox has been nominated as Transportation Secretary. I have no clue why. His big transportation idea for Charlotte was a trolley virtually no one else wants that would not solve a single traffic problem.


I have to agree with you on this. Nominating Fox to SecTrans is a head scratcher. The light rail system in Charlotte was already approved and under construction when Fox was mayor; he had little to do with it, and AFAIK he had little to do with their road network (I work in NC's DOT office) improvements.

I did hear the White House saying Fox knew how to get Democrats and Republicans to work together on common issues, but so what? Don't we need someone familiar with nationwide transportation issues in that office?
 
2013-05-02 07:54:39 AM
Without the state endorsing religious activity, apparently more people are going to go to hell.

Reason tells us that the state has an effect on rather or not one goes to hell.

/Small government ftw of Satan
 
2013-05-02 07:55:03 AM
Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but--more frequently than not --struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.
  - Martin Luther
 
2013-05-02 07:55:03 AM

cman: Muta: cman: This way you wont piss off the religious folk

Why do rational people have to dedicate their lives to avoiding pissing off religious folk?

Because religious folk have been known to be very fanatical if they believe you are trying to destroy their religion


Oh farking well. Let the fundy nutters go nuts. I'm thinking TJ would have been just fine with a national day of reason, and a national day of prayer, but I'm guessing only one of them bumps up against the constitution.
 
2013-05-02 07:55:31 AM

cman: I have an idea

Keep the day of prayer and make a day of reason on a different day. This way you wont piss off the religious folk.


Seriously!  Just have a separate-but-equal* day for for your silly atheism religion!


*As long as some are more equal than others
 
2013-05-02 07:58:54 AM

neongoats: sendtodave: Christians are persecuted by non-Christians having equality.

^^this^^

Nothing incites frothing at the mouth rage in a christian than making them merely equal to everyone else.


Well this is like that article on Muslims the other day.  It mentioned that most Muslims support religious freedom while, at the same time, supporting the death penalty for apostates.  The reality is that to them, just as to Christians, religious freedom is the freedom to seek out the correct world view.  Their world view.
 
2013-05-02 07:59:17 AM

JasonOfOrillia: Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but--more frequently than not --struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.
  - Martin Luther


Well that's true for me anyway. I certainly have nothing but contempt for all things deity related.
 
2013-05-02 08:02:12 AM

Bendal: sammyk: Barfmaker: What the hell is a mayor-out and cabinet-signs?

Mayor Fox has been nominated as Transportation Secretary. I have no clue why. His big transportation idea for Charlotte was a trolley virtually no one else wants that would not solve a single traffic problem.

I have to agree with you on this. Nominating Fox to SecTrans is a head scratcher. The light rail system in Charlotte was already approved and under construction when Fox was mayor; he had little to do with it, and AFAIK he had little to do with their road network (I work in NC's DOT office) improvements.

I did hear the White House saying Fox knew how to get Democrats and Republicans to work together on common issues, but so what? Don't we need someone familiar with nationwide transportation issues in that office?


I don't think you truly understand how childish the house Republicans have gotten. They basically need a baby sitter to keep from shiatting themselves when they hear the word, "fartb0ng0."

Anyways, to the people upset about this, fark you.
 
2013-05-02 08:03:57 AM

LordJiro: cman: LordJiro: Why the fark do we have a government-sanctioned day of prayer anyway?

Why do we have Christmas as a sanctioned holiday when it is a Christian holiday?

Christian origins, maybe. But the modern Christmas is almost entirely secularized. The "standard" Christmas and the religious one are practically completely different holidays that just happen to be on the same day. Same goes for Easter.


Nah.

Christmas was stolen from the pagans, remember?  It was the feast of Bacchus (and various other solstice celebrations) and it was about drinkin', eatin', and farkin' to say "hey!  we've survived the worst day of winter!  fark yeah!"

That's why it's the most important holiday, not Because Jesus™.
 
2013-05-02 08:10:21 AM
enry:
///Matthew 6:5 biatch

Matthew 6:5 is one of those verses that "doesn't count" for most Christians.

In my church it was and my mother used to argue that even the preacher preaching aloud wasn't really OK. I never understood why my Baptist friends all seemed unaware of the verse's existence.
 
2013-05-02 08:15:21 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: I don't need any politician promoting any beliefs.

so lets get stop the national day of __________ already.

Unless its bacon or beer.


Maybe we should dedicate a day for the nation to give up national day of _____
 
2013-05-02 08:15:45 AM
Dummy, if it's a day of prayer then it's not a day of reason.
 
2013-05-02 08:17:37 AM
Why do we need a day for either?
 
2013-05-02 08:18:51 AM
Every damn day is a day of prayer. We can't have one day of reason? LOOK AT THIS COUNTRY. We need it.
 
2013-05-02 08:21:17 AM
So is this "Dumb shiat North Carolina Is Doing" or "Not-so Dumb shiat North Carolina Is Doing"?
 
2013-05-02 08:21:56 AM

Muta: cman: This way you wont piss off the religious folk

Why do rational people have to dedicate their lives to avoiding pissing off religious folk?


That's a bloody good question.

I would say that in most cases it's not intended.  It just sort of happens.  You fail to give a shiat about something they put an inordinate amount of belief in and they get their noses put out of joint.  This usually snowballs as they feel compelled to tell everyone whom they share the faith with that will listen about it.  In part they kind of create an "Us v. Them" situation.

In a small amount of cases it's just fun on a slow day to watch them go batshiat crazy over something incredibly minor.  For me personally I find some sense of sympathy for the generally downtrodden; those who have to put up with the constant abuse as the result of the overly common; the guy working the cafeteria doling out soup whom Seinfeld lines get doled out to, the band in a bar that gets "Freebird" screamed at them.  But if I say "Happy Holiday" to the Fundie I work with he just flies off the handle and turns into 180 pounds of simmering fervor.  As the result of something so innocuous and generally good-natured to begin with he has set himself up to believe that everything is an affront to his life and lifestyle.  And with no real repercussions for it then I almost feel compelled to make it happen on a regular basis.  I have no bias against him in the slightest but I know it's the one thing where his impotent rage can be coaxed out for fun, and I think in hopes that perhaps after him doing it so often he might mellow out a bit and realize that were not a threat.

As an Atheist I am not a threat to his life or lifestyle.  During a BBQ I might be considered a threat to his beer 'fridge or the steak tips, but that's about it.
 
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