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2013-05-01 08:46:25 PM
3 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Laugh and giggle when you change 'em.

\someday, they'll be doing the same for you
\\I said laugh, not cry
2013-05-01 09:09:55 PM
2 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Yes, it gets better. Eventually they go to college. The trick is to change all the locks so they don't move back in when they're done with that.
2013-05-01 09:07:43 PM
2 votes:
For those that didn't click over to page two.


Police say the father told them that he was holding the baby with both hands around the torso and shaking the baby at around 12:30 a.m. He allegedly told police he "hit the back of the child's head on the kitchen counter at least three times," according to the report. He also allegedly struck the child's face, knocking her off the counter and onto the kitchen floor.


I'm secretly glad the child passed away after this attack.  My wife works at a center for special needs kids. I've met quite a few shaken babies. Death is better than what some of these kids have to go through for the rest of their lives.
2013-05-02 03:21:22 PM
1 votes:

ristst: 180IQ: To be fair, the parents are deaf. This means they're likely to be both unemployed and functionally illiterate.

I have a couple of hearing impaired friends who would absolutely take a swing at you for saying this.

/neither are unemployed nor illiterate.


I'll join in that line up.

/mother of Hard of hearing child who is an excellent reader
// also know a lot of DAHH adults who are employed in fabulous jobs
2013-05-02 07:20:43 AM
1 votes:
This doesn't sound as if it is about the baby crying,  but an argument by selfish people as to who will have to attend to a crying baby.   It seems they took their anger of having to inconvenience themselves to find out why the baby was crying by taking that anger out on the baby.    I suspect the same thing could have happened in the following situations.   who changes a diaper,  who has to mind the child if one goes out,   who needs to carry the child.

These two are just two selfish people.
2013-05-02 12:34:03 AM
1 votes:

TopoGigo: sleeps in trees: Keep baby in his own bed as much as possible

I don't really think there's anything explicitly wrong with "co-sleeping", as the hippies call it. It just presents problems down the road. Plenty of divorces get their start during the first couple of months of childrearing. Mom feels Dad isn't pulling his weight. Mom feels Dad doesn't love the baby as much as she does. Mom gets exasperated and nags Dad so he'll do his half of the job. (Nevermind the fact that almost no couple can come to any fair agreement on division of labor. Plenty of dads think Mom should do it all, and plenty of moms think Dad should work 40 hours a week while Mom stays home, but still do 50% of the housework and childrearing.) Meanwhile, Dad feels like Mom treats him like a hired babysitter who just isn't very good at the job. Dad is afraid he's a terrible father because the biological urges to not throw the irritating torture device known as baby to the wolves aren't as strong in males as in females. Nobody was brave enough to mention that fathers don't really get personally involved until they can see evidence of a potential padawan emerge. All of this creates monumental stress on the relationship. There is absolutely no reason to throw in the added stress of the crying baby sharing the bed, removing any chance of intimacy that was there in the first place. And then, once you get the kid in the habit, you won't sleep alone for six or seven years. More if you have another kid. A friend of my wife sleeps with her 8 and 10 year old boys and three little dogs...and is shocked that she has trouble keeping a boyfriend....


It depends on the baby -- cosleeping in the early months can be a godsend if the baby is the kind who takes forever to fall asleep and wakes up easily. Plus, if they're nursing, they're going to be constantly hungry, and having to get out of bed four times in one night to get the baby from the crib and feed him without tripping or falling asleep in your chair isn't too great for your stress levels either. Much, much easier to have the baby on one side and spouse on the other; everyone sleeps better. And let's face it, in the first few months, "intimacy" is going to be a rare commodity no matter where the baby is sleeping. We coslept with all of ours and they all transitioned to their own crib after they were past the new baby eating-every-five-minutes stage.
2013-05-01 11:24:00 PM
1 votes:

TopoGigo: surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?

It does. Four tips for you:

--Your child will not sleep through the night until his stomach is big enough to hold 6-8 hours worth of calories. You will be tempted to introduce some powdered cereal or cheerios because they take longer to digest. Resist the temptation.
--Your child, being male, severely dislikes a sudden cold, damp feeling on his penis. This is one reason he hates being changed at night. You can make it less uncomfortable if you immediately cover it with a washcloth after you whip the diaper down. This also reduces the chances of a surprise to your face.
--When your child cries at night, you run through the checklist. Hungry? Hot? (If you allow your wife to dress the child for bed, there's a better than average chance she's overdoing it. Babies lack the insulation of an adult, but their body temp is higher.) Cold? Lonely? Needs a diaper changed? Mild pain due to teething, reflux, colic, etc? When all of these problems are taken care of, shut the door, turn out the light, lock your wife in the basement, and let him cry. It will take a maximum of three nights for him to learn to put himself to sleep. And, for god's sake, do not let him sleep in your bedroom, or worse, in your bed. That's a habit not easily broken, and will lead to long-term relationship troubles with the wife.
--No matter what you think you have to be doing, you drop it. When the baby sleeps, you sleep. Babies sleep for 23.975 hours per day, and only wake up when it's time for you to go to bed. Prevent this by front loading your sleep. If kid is asleep, you lay down and sleep. No exceptions.

Trust me, it doesn't take long for this perverse leaky torture device to turn into a tiny human. Just get ...




Thank You. Keep baby in his own bed as much as possible. Crying can be from over stimulation, can't fix that and no child has been permanently damaged from crying. Further STOP reading shift off the Internet with catch phrases like "paleo parenting" " freestyle parenting" "attachment parenting" etc. Sure there are some good points but, he's your child and regardless of what people say - Raise him how he's bent.
2013-05-01 11:18:55 PM
1 votes:

trappedspirit: And this is one of the reasons I am not in law enforcement.  These two would have just disappeared.  Knowing full well that one of them was probably an order of magnitude more culpable than the other, it wouldn't have mattered.  I would have looked at them and figured no one with any kind of pull would be missing them and they would have disappeared.  There wouldn't even have been anything tortuous about it.  Except for the brief moment for the second one realizing that the first one just hit the floor like a discarded bag of rotten potatoes.  I supposed that moment before I could get to the second one would be some form of psychological torture, which wouldn't sit well with me.  But the whole thing would reach conclusion quickly.  And I would consider the laborious cleanup my penitence.


The sad thing is, my Boobies is serious, pun aside.  I hate to hear stories like this.  A baby that is unwanted by its parents would be scooped up in a fast heartbeat by an adoptive family wanting a newborn.  To see them treated like trash is  horrific and painful to those of us whose wombs are a rocky place where seed can find no purchase.

/My stepson - my SON - calls me mom. I'll be a fantastic grandma someday.
2013-05-01 11:12:54 PM
1 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


It does. Four tips for you:

--Your child will not sleep through the night until his stomach is big enough to hold 6-8 hours worth of calories. You will be tempted to introduce some powdered cereal or cheerios because they take longer to digest. Resist the temptation.
--Your child, being male, severely dislikes a sudden cold, damp feeling on his penis. This is one reason he hates being changed at night. You can make it less uncomfortable if you immediately cover it with a washcloth after you whip the diaper down. This also reduces the chances of a surprise to your face.
--When your child cries at night, you run through the checklist. Hungry? Hot? (If you allow your wife to dress the child for bed, there's a better than average chance she's overdoing it. Babies lack the insulation of an adult, but their body temp is higher.) Cold? Lonely? Needs a diaper changed? Mild pain due to teething, reflux, colic, etc? When all of these problems are taken care of, shut the door, turn out the light, lock your wife in the basement, and let him cry. It will take a maximum of three nights for him to learn to put himself to sleep. And, for god's sake, do not let him sleep in your bedroom, or worse, in your bed. That's a habit not easily broken, and will lead to long-term relationship troubles with the wife.
--No matter what you think you have to be doing, you drop it. When the baby sleeps, you sleep. Babies sleep for 23.975 hours per day, and only wake up when it's time for you to go to bed. Prevent this by front loading your sleep. If kid is asleep, you lay down and sleep. No exceptions.

Trust me, it doesn't take long for this perverse leaky torture device to turn into a tiny human. Just get through the first six weeks and then they start doing cool stuff.
2013-05-01 11:01:12 PM
1 votes:

legion_of_doo: surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?

my son is my buddy. he's my best bud. if I don't like what he's doing, it's ultimately my fault... so it's up to me to teach and lead.

it's hard work, but it's awesome. seeing him grow is awe inspiring.

/ and when he's a teenager, I will be the devil incarnate




As the mother of a teen, he's the bees knees. I love his whip assed sense of humour. He's crude, funny and wry. He's one of the people I most want to be around. Although, he is sometimes as dumb as a bag of rocks and drives me bananas. Just saying, people biatch about teenagers but once you dust them off and talk to them, they are pretty neat.
2013-05-01 09:35:18 PM
1 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Yes.  Tough it out, it's worth it.  The secret for those early months is to work out a schedule with your wife to allow both of you to get a length of uninterrupted sleep every night.  I did Daddy duty until 1am, then the wife took the early morning hours so I could get 5 or 6 hours before work.

/this too shall pass
2013-05-01 09:33:48 PM
1 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


8 months of colic.  no more than 3 hours of continuous sleep. Then, on a magical night she slept...... all night. When I awoke to sunlight I rushed to her room because I was sure she was sick or worse. Nope. Just sleeping. And that was the greatest and most scary sleep I ever had....
2013-05-01 09:33:42 PM
1 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Right there with ya. Our twins arrived on the 19th, and I think I got 6 hours a few days ago when my wife was feeling VERY generous.

I am, however, mastering the power-nap!
2013-05-01 09:33:05 PM
1 votes:

Kaenneth: I'd love to have a child, except for the first 2-4 years or so.


I loved having a baby. I didn't have to birth them.

with the poop, the feeding, I loved it. I wish I could have stayed home all day.

(just don't guilt trip your wife for supplementing feedings with formula when she's dead tired. don't even come close to that. you don't want tired, pissed off, hormonal wife and crying baby. I know because I have learned)

you don't realize how much you are willing to do until you are in it, I think. even poopy diapers are their own bit of humor.

/ would also love to adopt some day, Lord (and wife) willing. parenthood isn't for all, but I love it
2013-05-01 09:00:33 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "It's sort of been my understanding that they can somehow detect or feel these vibrations and stuff like that and you still have some hearing, but not something to where you can make out anything," Richardson Police Sgt. Kevin Perlich told ABCNews.com. "They could sense when the child was upset and crying."

"Anybody would know if a child was crying or not," Philadelphia Children's Hospital pediatrician Dr. Cindy Christian told ABCNews.com. There are the tears and the babies make faces, so there are visual cues to crying aside from the sound.


Upon hearing Dr. Christian's comment, Sgt. Perlich added, "Uh... Yeah. I guess they could have seen the baby crying, too. I just forgot to mention that."
2013-05-01 08:55:39 PM
1 votes:

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


my son is my buddy. he's my best bud. if I don't like what he's doing, it's ultimately my fault... so it's up to me to teach and lead.

it's hard work, but it's awesome. seeing him grow is awe inspiring.

/ and when he's a teenager, I will be the devil incarnate
2013-05-01 08:43:35 PM
1 votes:
As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?
2013-05-01 08:40:24 PM
1 votes:

gonegirl: I laughed way harder at that headline than was appropriate.

Curse you, subby.


+1
2013-05-01 08:23:19 PM
1 votes:
"It was pretty bad, certainly something children shouldn't have to go through."

Thank god someone pointed this out.
2013-05-01 08:19:18 PM
1 votes:
Bet they wish they'd "accidentally" shot the infant - no charged would've been filed.
2013-05-01 08:17:09 PM
1 votes:
Almost the same way Helen Keller killed the Lindbergh baby.
2013-05-01 08:13:42 PM
1 votes:
I laughed way harder at that headline than was appropriate.

Curse you, subby.
2013-05-01 08:10:40 PM
1 votes:
I'm not saying it's ok to beat your crying baby to death...

but I understand
2013-05-01 08:08:26 PM
1 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
oblig
2013-05-01 08:08:17 PM
1 votes:
Look. They thought it was a chicken. Who hasn't made that mistake at some point in their life?
 
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