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2013-05-01 09:26:00 PM

wrenchboy: camarugala: Funny, they don't look deaf

They look like brother and sister, but thats me

/deaf guy here


I was thinking the same thing. Does the house have an attic?
 
2013-05-01 09:28:55 PM
Rosemary's baby daddy

I'm not saying it's ok to beat your crying baby to death...

but I understand


I don't in this case. A crying infant can be incredibly grating, but I can't imagine it being that stressful to a Deaf person. Wouldn't you sleep through most if it anyway?
 
2013-05-01 09:31:01 PM
They look like the same person to me except in one shot he is wearing a wig and squinting his eyes.
 
2013-05-01 09:32:37 PM
I'd really like to know who subby is.
 
2013-05-01 09:33:05 PM

Kaenneth: I'd love to have a child, except for the first 2-4 years or so.


I loved having a baby. I didn't have to birth them.

with the poop, the feeding, I loved it. I wish I could have stayed home all day.

(just don't guilt trip your wife for supplementing feedings with formula when she's dead tired. don't even come close to that. you don't want tired, pissed off, hormonal wife and crying baby. I know because I have learned)

you don't realize how much you are willing to do until you are in it, I think. even poopy diapers are their own bit of humor.

/ would also love to adopt some day, Lord (and wife) willing. parenthood isn't for all, but I love it
 
2013-05-01 09:33:42 PM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Right there with ya. Our twins arrived on the 19th, and I think I got 6 hours a few days ago when my wife was feeling VERY generous.

I am, however, mastering the power-nap!
 
2013-05-01 09:33:48 PM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


8 months of colic.  no more than 3 hours of continuous sleep. Then, on a magical night she slept...... all night. When I awoke to sunlight I rushed to her room because I was sure she was sick or worse. Nope. Just sleeping. And that was the greatest and most scary sleep I ever had....
 
2013-05-01 09:35:18 PM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Yes.  Tough it out, it's worth it.  The secret for those early months is to work out a schedule with your wife to allow both of you to get a length of uninterrupted sleep every night.  I did Daddy duty until 1am, then the wife took the early morning hours so I could get 5 or 6 hours before work.

/this too shall pass
 
2013-05-01 09:48:08 PM

gonegirl: I laughed way harder at that headline than was appropriate.

Curse you, subby.


Me too.
 
2013-05-01 09:49:13 PM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


My boy is two and half and has turned into a different kid seemingly overnight. He's completely defiant and SUPER active now. I hope this passes. Good luck with your little one.
 
2013-05-01 09:53:27 PM

chumboobler: surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?

8 months of colic.  no more than 3 hours of continuous sleep. Then, on a magical night she slept...... all night. When I awoke to sunlight I rushed to her room because I was sure she was sick or worse. Nope. Just sleeping. And that was the greatest and most scary sleep I ever had....


Yeah, that first morning when you wake up and realize "the baby didn't wake us" is terrifying.
 
2013-05-01 09:54:12 PM
Thanks,  oi_piss_me_off.
 
2013-05-01 10:05:07 PM

Hector Remarkable: Almost the same way Helen Keller killed the Lindbergh baby.


When I heard that Helen Keller used to cut the grass in her yard I thought "That's incredible! In fact it's absolutely blindmowing!"
 
2013-05-01 10:13:46 PM
Thanks for the reassurance gang! He's been bathed, fed, and changed. I'm thinking of sacrificing a chicken to ensure he at least let's me get a few hours of sleep tonight.
 
2013-05-01 10:22:46 PM
Grumpy Cat

Thanks, oi_piss_me_off.


sure thing. Enjoy. Or not grumps
 
2013-05-01 10:36:47 PM
Figures. Deaf people are assholes
 
2013-05-01 10:46:34 PM

surrounded by arseholes: Thanks for the reassurance gang! He's been bathed, fed, and changed. I'm thinking of sacrificing a chicken to ensure he at least let's me get a few hours of sleep tonight.


Routine routine routine.
 
2013-05-01 10:51:56 PM
You can't expect the best judgment from a parents who are brother and sister.  It's creepy how much they look alike.
That said, poor, poor baby. :(
 
2013-05-01 11:01:12 PM

legion_of_doo: surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?

my son is my buddy. he's my best bud. if I don't like what he's doing, it's ultimately my fault... so it's up to me to teach and lead.

it's hard work, but it's awesome. seeing him grow is awe inspiring.

/ and when he's a teenager, I will be the devil incarnate




As the mother of a teen, he's the bees knees. I love his whip assed sense of humour. He's crude, funny and wry. He's one of the people I most want to be around. Although, he is sometimes as dumb as a bag of rocks and drives me bananas. Just saying, people biatch about teenagers but once you dust them off and talk to them, they are pretty neat.
 
2013-05-01 11:05:53 PM

katerbug72: surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?

My boy is two and half and has turned into a different kid seemingly overnight. He's completely defiant and SUPER active now. I hope this passes. Good luck with your little one.


Terrible twos
Trying threes
farking fours
 
2013-05-01 11:09:33 PM
And this is one of the reasons I am not in law enforcement.  These two would have just disappeared.  Knowing full well that one of them was probably an order of magnitude more culpable than the other, it wouldn't have mattered.  I would have looked at them and figured no one with any kind of pull would be missing them and they would have disappeared.  There wouldn't even have been anything tortuous about it.  Except for the brief moment for the second one realizing that the first one just hit the floor like a discarded bag of rotten potatoes.  I supposed that moment before I could get to the second one would be some form of psychological torture, which wouldn't sit well with me.  But the whole thing would reach conclusion quickly.  And I would consider the laborious cleanup my penitence.
 
2013-05-01 11:12:25 PM
not a bad thing, defected parents aborted  their crotch dropings, the world could only be a better place now
 
2013-05-01 11:12:54 PM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


It does. Four tips for you:

--Your child will not sleep through the night until his stomach is big enough to hold 6-8 hours worth of calories. You will be tempted to introduce some powdered cereal or cheerios because they take longer to digest. Resist the temptation.
--Your child, being male, severely dislikes a sudden cold, damp feeling on his penis. This is one reason he hates being changed at night. You can make it less uncomfortable if you immediately cover it with a washcloth after you whip the diaper down. This also reduces the chances of a surprise to your face.
--When your child cries at night, you run through the checklist. Hungry? Hot? (If you allow your wife to dress the child for bed, there's a better than average chance she's overdoing it. Babies lack the insulation of an adult, but their body temp is higher.) Cold? Lonely? Needs a diaper changed? Mild pain due to teething, reflux, colic, etc? When all of these problems are taken care of, shut the door, turn out the light, lock your wife in the basement, and let him cry. It will take a maximum of three nights for him to learn to put himself to sleep. And, for god's sake, do not let him sleep in your bedroom, or worse, in your bed. That's a habit not easily broken, and will lead to long-term relationship troubles with the wife.
--No matter what you think you have to be doing, you drop it. When the baby sleeps, you sleep. Babies sleep for 23.975 hours per day, and only wake up when it's time for you to go to bed. Prevent this by front loading your sleep. If kid is asleep, you lay down and sleep. No exceptions.

Trust me, it doesn't take long for this perverse leaky torture device to turn into a tiny human. Just get through the first six weeks and then they start doing cool stuff.
 
2013-05-01 11:15:23 PM
"Hector Rene Cupich-Quinones, 35, and Maria Guadalupe Zuniga, 37, of Richardson, Texas, have been arrested and charged in the death of their baby. Both parents are deaf and mute "

Did they not hear that baby was their anchor to stay in the country? What do they have to say for themselves now?
 
2013-05-01 11:18:55 PM

trappedspirit: And this is one of the reasons I am not in law enforcement.  These two would have just disappeared.  Knowing full well that one of them was probably an order of magnitude more culpable than the other, it wouldn't have mattered.  I would have looked at them and figured no one with any kind of pull would be missing them and they would have disappeared.  There wouldn't even have been anything tortuous about it.  Except for the brief moment for the second one realizing that the first one just hit the floor like a discarded bag of rotten potatoes.  I supposed that moment before I could get to the second one would be some form of psychological torture, which wouldn't sit well with me.  But the whole thing would reach conclusion quickly.  And I would consider the laborious cleanup my penitence.


The sad thing is, my Boobies is serious, pun aside.  I hate to hear stories like this.  A baby that is unwanted by its parents would be scooped up in a fast heartbeat by an adoptive family wanting a newborn.  To see them treated like trash is  horrific and painful to those of us whose wombs are a rocky place where seed can find no purchase.

/My stepson - my SON - calls me mom. I'll be a fantastic grandma someday.
 
2013-05-01 11:19:23 PM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?


Yes, then he will turn 16 then you will wish for this time again ("
 
2013-05-01 11:19:28 PM
 
2013-05-01 11:24:00 PM

TopoGigo: surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!

/it gets better right?
//hello? anyone?

It does. Four tips for you:

--Your child will not sleep through the night until his stomach is big enough to hold 6-8 hours worth of calories. You will be tempted to introduce some powdered cereal or cheerios because they take longer to digest. Resist the temptation.
--Your child, being male, severely dislikes a sudden cold, damp feeling on his penis. This is one reason he hates being changed at night. You can make it less uncomfortable if you immediately cover it with a washcloth after you whip the diaper down. This also reduces the chances of a surprise to your face.
--When your child cries at night, you run through the checklist. Hungry? Hot? (If you allow your wife to dress the child for bed, there's a better than average chance she's overdoing it. Babies lack the insulation of an adult, but their body temp is higher.) Cold? Lonely? Needs a diaper changed? Mild pain due to teething, reflux, colic, etc? When all of these problems are taken care of, shut the door, turn out the light, lock your wife in the basement, and let him cry. It will take a maximum of three nights for him to learn to put himself to sleep. And, for god's sake, do not let him sleep in your bedroom, or worse, in your bed. That's a habit not easily broken, and will lead to long-term relationship troubles with the wife.
--No matter what you think you have to be doing, you drop it. When the baby sleeps, you sleep. Babies sleep for 23.975 hours per day, and only wake up when it's time for you to go to bed. Prevent this by front loading your sleep. If kid is asleep, you lay down and sleep. No exceptions.

Trust me, it doesn't take long for this perverse leaky torture device to turn into a tiny human. Just get ...




Thank You. Keep baby in his own bed as much as possible. Crying can be from over stimulation, can't fix that and no child has been permanently damaged from crying. Further STOP reading shift off the Internet with catch phrases like "paleo parenting" " freestyle parenting" "attachment parenting" etc. Sure there are some good points but, he's your child and regardless of what people say - Raise him how he's bent.
 
2013-05-01 11:42:37 PM

GreenSun: Holy crap, this is late Darwinism in action! I hope that people should think first before deciding to breed. When the kid is born, it's too late to legally do anything about it.


Guess you haven't herd about this newfangled thing called adoption, huh?
 
2013-05-01 11:46:47 PM

sleeps in trees: Keep baby in his own bed as much as possible


I don't really think there's anything explicitly wrong with "co-sleeping", as the hippies call it. It just presents problems down the road. Plenty of divorces get their start during the first couple of months of childrearing. Mom feels Dad isn't pulling his weight. Mom feels Dad doesn't love the baby as much as she does. Mom gets exasperated and nags Dad so he'll do his half of the job. (Nevermind the fact that almost no couple can come to any fair agreement on division of labor. Plenty of dads think Mom should do it all, and plenty of moms think Dad should work 40 hours a week while Mom stays home, but still do 50% of the housework and childrearing.) Meanwhile, Dad feels like Mom treats him like a hired babysitter who just isn't very good at the job. Dad is afraid he's a terrible father because the biological urges to not throw the irritating torture device known as baby to the wolves aren't as strong in males as in females. Nobody was brave enough to mention that fathers don't really get personally involved until they can see evidence of a potential padawan emerge. All of this creates monumental stress on the relationship. There is absolutely no reason to throw in the added stress of the crying baby sharing the bed, removing any chance of intimacy that was there in the first place. And then, once you get the kid in the habit, you won't sleep alone for six or seven years. More if you have another kid. A friend of my wife sleeps with her 8 and 10 year old boys and three little dogs...and is shocked that she has trouble keeping a boyfriend.

no child has been permanently damaged from crying.

In fact, in my parent's day, they were told that if they never let me cry I'd never develop my lungs properly. While that's clearly bullsh*t, there is something to be said for a child learning to calm themselves and put themselves to sleep. It has to be good for long-term confidence. The corollary, of course, is that you need to be actively engaged with a baby when it's awake so it feels loved. Holding your child while texting or talking on the phone is not together time. I also recommend the little baby slings so you can be with your child when doing things like dishes or laundry. After a few weeks, you can tell when your kid is ready to play on the floor by herself and when she needs held.
 
2013-05-02 12:04:18 AM
Burn these farkers.  Took drunk to take care of her.  Asshole slammed her against the counter "at least" three times.  Then he punched her.  5 month old girl.  Wow.
 
2013-05-02 12:19:16 AM
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2013-05-02 12:29:17 AM

Fo Shiz: Burn these farkers.  Took drunk to take care of her.  Asshole slammed her against the counter "at least" three times.  Then he punched her.  5 month old girl.  Wow.


To be fair, the parents are deaf.  This means they're likely to be both unemployed and functionally illiterate. (The absurdity that is "deaf culture" guarantees that this problem isn't going away any time soon.)

It should come as no surprise that a couple of self-important, unemployed, and illiterate people think that a punch to the mouth is an excellent way to discipline an infant.
 
2013-05-02 12:34:03 AM

TopoGigo: sleeps in trees: Keep baby in his own bed as much as possible

I don't really think there's anything explicitly wrong with "co-sleeping", as the hippies call it. It just presents problems down the road. Plenty of divorces get their start during the first couple of months of childrearing. Mom feels Dad isn't pulling his weight. Mom feels Dad doesn't love the baby as much as she does. Mom gets exasperated and nags Dad so he'll do his half of the job. (Nevermind the fact that almost no couple can come to any fair agreement on division of labor. Plenty of dads think Mom should do it all, and plenty of moms think Dad should work 40 hours a week while Mom stays home, but still do 50% of the housework and childrearing.) Meanwhile, Dad feels like Mom treats him like a hired babysitter who just isn't very good at the job. Dad is afraid he's a terrible father because the biological urges to not throw the irritating torture device known as baby to the wolves aren't as strong in males as in females. Nobody was brave enough to mention that fathers don't really get personally involved until they can see evidence of a potential padawan emerge. All of this creates monumental stress on the relationship. There is absolutely no reason to throw in the added stress of the crying baby sharing the bed, removing any chance of intimacy that was there in the first place. And then, once you get the kid in the habit, you won't sleep alone for six or seven years. More if you have another kid. A friend of my wife sleeps with her 8 and 10 year old boys and three little dogs...and is shocked that she has trouble keeping a boyfriend....


It depends on the baby -- cosleeping in the early months can be a godsend if the baby is the kind who takes forever to fall asleep and wakes up easily. Plus, if they're nursing, they're going to be constantly hungry, and having to get out of bed four times in one night to get the baby from the crib and feed him without tripping or falling asleep in your chair isn't too great for your stress levels either. Much, much easier to have the baby on one side and spouse on the other; everyone sleeps better. And let's face it, in the first few months, "intimacy" is going to be a rare commodity no matter where the baby is sleeping. We coslept with all of ours and they all transitioned to their own crib after they were past the new baby eating-every-five-minutes stage.
 
2013-05-02 12:53:00 AM

RenownedCurator: t depends on the baby -- cosleeping in the early months can be a godsend if the baby is the kind who takes forever to fall asleep and wakes up easily. Plus, if they're nursing, they're going to be constantly hungry, and having to get out of bed four times in one night to get the baby from the crib and feed him without tripping or falling asleep in your chair isn't too great for your stress levels either. Much, much easier to have the baby on one side and spouse on the other; everyone sleeps better. And let's face it, in the first few months, "intimacy" is going to be a rare commodity no matter where the baby is sleeping. We coslept with all of ours and they all transitioned to their own crib after they were past the new baby eating-every-five-minutes stage.


Bah, babies will learn to put themselves to sleep, and it isn't child abuse to let them cry for a while. Like I said, though,I don't really see anything wrong with it; I just think it's the wrong choice for most parents--especially first timers. For every gain, there is a loss. Sure, you gain intimacy with your child, but you lose lessons in self-soothing. You gain convenience while nursing, but lose the convenience of room in the bed to toss and turn, or just being able to sleep more deeply since you're not thinking about baby falling out or being squashed. The real problem, though, is that most babies never make it to their own beds. If you were able to get yours to sleep by themselves at an early age, that pretty much leaves it to personal choice. Most people can't make that transition, though.
 
2013-05-02 12:55:37 AM

Show_The_O_Face: For those that didn't click over to page two.


Police say the father told them that he was holding the baby with both hands around the torso and shaking the baby at around 12:30 a.m. He allegedly told police he "hit the back of the child's head on the kitchen counter at least three times," according to the report. He also allegedly struck the child's face, knocking her off the counter and onto the kitchen floor.


I'm secretly glad the child passed away after this attack.  My wife works at a center for special needs kids. I've met quite a few shaken babies. Death is better than what some of these kids have to go through for the rest of their lives.


I know you do but on my behalf tell your wife thank you for doing what she does. I know it's hard work.

/thx
 
2013-05-02 01:13:12 AM

wrenchboy: camarugala: Funny, they don't look deaf

They look like brother and sister, but thats me

/deaf guy here


Yeah, looks like that are relatively deaf
 
2013-05-02 01:18:35 AM
I wonder what happens to a child's development when everyone who lives in the house is deaf and mute. These don't exactly seem like parents who would hire a playmate/tutor to compensate for the lack of stimulation.
 
2013-05-02 04:52:55 AM
so being deaf had nothing to do with the baby's death

I feel so trolled
 
2013-05-02 06:54:20 AM

MeanJean: Rosemary's baby daddy

I'm not saying it's ok to beat your crying baby to death...

but I understand

I don't in this case. A crying infant can be incredibly grating, but I can't imagine it being that stressful to a Deaf person. Wouldn't you sleep through most if it anyway?


Wouldn't they likely have a baby monitor that is flashing in their bedroom all night? It seems like it would be pretty much the same stress as for a hearing person.
 
2013-05-02 07:20:43 AM
This doesn't sound as if it is about the baby crying,  but an argument by selfish people as to who will have to attend to a crying baby.   It seems they took their anger of having to inconvenience themselves to find out why the baby was crying by taking that anger out on the baby.    I suspect the same thing could have happened in the following situations.   who changes a diaper,  who has to mind the child if one goes out,   who needs to carry the child.

These two are just two selfish people.
 
2013-05-02 08:28:41 AM

SlothB77: A deaf Texas couple have been charged in the beating death of their 5-month-old daughter who was allegedly killed after an argument

Both parents are deaf and mute.

What kind of argument is that?


An incendiary one. Calling someone "mute" who doesn't choose to own the label is pejorative. Most deaf people do make sounds, so they're not mute.
 
2013-05-02 08:39:02 AM
I used to be like the farkwads here, making stupid comments about the death of an infant in some kind of lame attempt to be funny.

Until I became a parent.  It hits a bit too close to home.  No infant deserves this.
 
2013-05-02 08:46:40 AM

180IQ: To be fair, the parents are deaf. This means they're likely to be both unemployed and functionally illiterate.


I have a couple of hearing impaired friends who would absolutely take a swing at you for saying this.

/neither are unemployed nor illiterate.
 
2013-05-02 08:56:56 AM
This is why you shouldn't attempt to sing a baby a lullaby in morse code.
 
2013-05-02 09:55:42 AM
sick people!
 
2013-05-02 10:06:06 AM
ristst

To be fair, the parents are deaf. This means they're likely to be both unemployed and functionally illiterate.

I have a couple of hearing impaired friends who would absolutely take a swing at you for saying this.

/neither are unemployed nor illiterate.


I agree. Since when can Deaf people not read? What do you think close-captioning is for, decoration?And if they're unemployed, its probably because of douchebags like you.
 
2013-05-02 10:06:38 AM
Sad.  Should have had the IRONIC tag.  I mean really folks, it's sicko they killed a baby, but for what?  Crying?  That they cannot even hear?  I mean c'mon how lame.
 
2013-05-02 10:22:28 AM

surrounded by arseholes: As a new dad who hasn't slept more than 3 continuous hours in the last 2.5 weeks, I've found that there were times where I wanted to off myself....but never my boy. And sweet Jews with Jesus does he hate being changed at night!


He is trying to tell you that he is cold. 30 seconds in the microwave will fix him right up.
 
2013-05-02 10:46:11 AM

jtips: what?

     - Ludwing Van Beethoven
 
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