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(Mother Jones)   ADX Florence in Colorado tops the list for the worst prison in America, and for good reason, it's as close to hell as you can get   (motherjones.com) divider line 196
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2013-05-01 07:58:42 PM
Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.
 
2013-05-01 08:18:28 PM
So...move the Gitmo detainees there?
 
2013-05-01 08:42:24 PM

Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.


There's none of that at ADX Florence, so that's one problem solved.

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?


It's been suggested, but it's the whole quasi-legal status thing that's keeping it from happening. I'm all for it.

In any event, if you end up at ADX Florence you've failed completely at life. It's not easy to get there. Feel free to look at the devil's list of inmates and then ask yourself if you have a problem with it. Most of them would either kill others or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere. We could just execute them, but then we would be called inhuman monsters, so we don't, and we get called inhuman monsters. If we put them in genpop and something happens, we'll be called inhuman monsters. No-win situation.
 
2013-05-01 08:57:20 PM
Good.
 
2013-05-01 08:58:15 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.

There's none of that at ADX Florence, so that's one problem solved.

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?

It's been suggested, but it's the whole quasi-legal status thing that's keeping it from happening. I'm all for it.

In any event, if you end up at ADX Florence you've failed completely at life. It's not easy to get there. Feel free to look at the devil's list of inmates and then ask yourself if you have a problem with it. Most of them would either kill others or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere. We could just execute them, but then we would be called inhuman monsters, so we don't, and we get called inhuman monsters. If we put them in genpop and something happens, we'll be called inhuman monsters. No-win situation.


No holds barred cage fighting live on pay per view.
16 men enter. 15 men die. 1 wins his freedom.
 
2013-05-01 08:59:55 PM
Next door neighbor's 15 year old kid is already expelled from school and just got tossed in the juvie for breaking into another neighbor's house... he needs to see this place to know what he has to look forward to if he doesn't get his act together.
 
2013-05-01 09:00:29 PM
Angola prison begs to differ.
 
2013-05-01 09:01:00 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.

There's none of that at ADX Florence, so that's one problem solved.

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?

It's been suggested, but it's the whole quasi-legal status thing that's keeping it from happening. I'm all for it.

In any event, if you end up at ADX Florence you've failed completely at life. It's not easy to get there. Feel free to look at the devil's list of inmates and then ask yourself if you have a problem with it. Most of them would either kill others or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere. We could just execute them, but then we would be called inhuman monsters, so we don't, and we get called inhuman monsters. If we put them in genpop and something happens, we'll be called inhuman monsters. No-win situation.

No holds barred cage fighting live on pay per view.
16 men enter. 15 men die. 1 wins his freedom.


The Running Man?
 
2013-05-01 09:01:05 PM
this is among the most secure prisons in the world-and one of the most isolating: Many of its cells, fashioned out of poured concrete with solid steel doors, are equipped with built-in showers and automated chutes that open onto private concrete "exercise yards," such that occupants need never see a guard or fellow prisoner-much less a visitor. One former warden interviewed by 60 Minutes called it "pretty close" to hell. Some ADX prisoners have killed guards or prisoners at other facilities. But many others land here by virtue of their notoriety or politics. Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, shoe bomber Richard Reid, and Oklahoma City conspirator Terry Nichols are all notable personages, to be sure, but none of them has been shown to present any special security risks in an ordinary prison environment.

mlkshk.com
 
2013-05-01 09:01:12 PM
It's a top 10 list, but I cannot figure out how to see the other 9.
 
2013-05-01 09:03:19 PM

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?


oh FFS CONVICT THEM FIRST. I dont even care if it's a kangaroo court, put on the farking show at least. Theyre even in charge now that they went all hunger strike because everyone briefly forgot they existed
 
2013-05-01 09:03:32 PM

kmt11: It's a top 10 list, but I cannot figure out how to see the other 9.


go on a crime spree.
 
2013-05-01 09:03:51 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere.


That's an important point that the story missed.

Although keeping celebrity prisoners like Terry Nichols alive doesn't removing all human contact.
 
2013-05-01 09:03:59 PM
pant on de groun
 
2013-05-01 09:04:30 PM

kmt11: It's a top 10 list, but I cannot figure out how to see the other 9.


I think they're doing one a day.
 
2013-05-01 09:05:17 PM

kmt11: It's a top 10 list, but I cannot figure out how to see the other 9.


Commit some really heinous crimes.....
 
2013-05-01 09:05:43 PM
Those Prisons sound like the best place to put the scum of the earth.  Now if only we could make it worse somehow.  Remember these are monsters, they murder rape and destroy, show them all the mercy they show others.
 
2013-05-01 09:05:44 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: No holds barred cage fighting live on pay per view.
16 men enter. 15 men die. 1 wins his freedom.


It would make a great movie. Terrorist mastermind and 15 followers go in. The 15 followers commit suicide.
 
2013-05-01 09:06:40 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.

There's none of that at ADX Florence, so that's one problem solved.

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?

It's been suggested, but it's the whole quasi-legal status thing that's keeping it from happening. I'm all for it.

In any event, if you end up at ADX Florence you've failed completely at life. It's not easy to get there. Feel free to look at the devil's list of inmates and then ask yourself if you have a problem with it. Most of them would either kill others or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere. We could just execute them, but then we would be called inhuman monsters, so we don't, and we get called inhuman monsters. If we put them in genpop and something happens, we'll be called inhuman monsters. No-win situation.

No holds barred cage fighting live on pay per view.
16 men enter. 15 men die. 1 wins his freedom.


Thunderdome on steroids?
 
2013-05-01 09:07:54 PM
Not weeping that a bunch of murderers and rapists are living in a near Hell.
 
2013-05-01 09:08:16 PM

Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.


Where's the Liberal Douchebag retort of "STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE"?  Or does that only count when their tax dollars are getting bilked?
 
2013-05-01 09:08:24 PM
Don't most countries get along fine without having a prison like this and without so many life-without-parole sentences? The U.S. has the highest percentage of its population in prison of any country. That means we're doing it wrong.
 
2013-05-01 09:08:31 PM

Sick Old Farker: Angola prison begs to differ.


Yes.... and there are prisons in South America that make this place look like the Embassy Suites.
 
2013-05-01 09:09:49 PM
I like how they brush off one guys conviction as "low level terrorism"
 
2013-05-01 09:12:13 PM
fark prison guards they are some bastards
 
2013-05-01 09:12:33 PM
While there, in addition to repeated suicide attempts, he has removed one of his testicles, bitten off a finger and amputated another one, sliced off his earlobes, and severed his Achilles tendon.

Howaboutnobear.jpg
 
2013-05-01 09:12:36 PM

Nem Wan: Don't most countries get along fine without having a prison like this and without so many life-without-parole sentences? The U.S. has the highest percentage of its population in prison of any country. That means we're doing it wrong.


Correct. We are letting way too many of the dirtbags live.
 
2013-05-01 09:13:32 PM
Somehow the threat of being raped seems like an effective crime deterrent... Who's with me?
 
2013-05-01 09:14:18 PM

Nem Wan: Don't most countries get along fine without having a prison like this and without so many life-without-parole sentences? The U.S. has the highest percentage of its population in prison of any country. That means we're doing it wrong.


We probably spend as much on "law enforcement" as the next 20 countries combined. We can afford to enforce the law and incarcerate criminals.
 
2013-05-01 09:14:31 PM
Won't even call them animals, the scum that's at Florence have worked for every inch of their hell. They knew what they were getting into. They can enjoy their own personal hell.

/listened to stories of the prisoners at the sex crimes prison in Avenel NJ from my best friend who was a captain at the unit for many years.
 
2013-05-01 09:15:13 PM
 
2013-05-01 09:15:40 PM

Thebloodpotato: fark prison guards they are some bastards


ahhh, the first Fark perp finally speaks up. You win an Internet!
 
2013-05-01 09:16:07 PM

tjfly: Somehow the threat of being raped low level unconsensually penetrated seems like an effective crime deterrent... Who's with me?


FTFY
 
2013-05-01 09:17:28 PM
The only way to improve this place would be to move all the senators and congress critters there.
Then we can send the lobbyists in to keep them company.
 
2013-05-01 09:18:10 PM
Jack Powers, a convicted bank robber who landed at ADX after escaping from another prison.


Damn it he got me with that damn circle game, now I owe him 2 punches,


i wonder how he is going to collect
 
2013-05-01 09:19:04 PM
that video was haunting
 
2013-05-01 09:19:12 PM
That place sounds like Russia's Black Dolphin Prison, except prisoners are blind folded and are only allowed to sleep when told..
 
2013-05-01 09:22:00 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-01 09:22:54 PM

kmt11: It's a top 10 list, but I cannot figure out how to see the other 9.


I'd be surprised if flying Delta Air Lines isn't somewhere around five or six.
 
2013-05-01 09:25:41 PM
Meh. Carandiru -- now THAT shiat hole is supremely farkeed up!
Dare you to google it.
 
2013-05-01 09:25:51 PM

Krieghund: kmt11: It's a top 10 list, but I cannot figure out how to see the other 9.

I think they're doing one a day.


Not only is it a slideshow, but it is a 10 day long slideshow?

Speaking of cruel and unusual...
 
2013-05-01 09:27:57 PM

Giltric: tjfly: Somehow the threat of being raped low level unconsensually penetrated seems like an effective crime deterrent... Who's with me?

FTFY


thanks!
 
2013-05-01 09:29:19 PM

Theory Of Null: That place sounds like Russia's Black Dolphin Prison, except prisoners are blind folded and are only allowed to sleep when told..


Saw Black Dolphin on a TV show.

Holy shiat, that place is intimidating. Big farking dogs, blindfolds and bent over submission when being transferred between cells and buildings.

No thank you.
 
2013-05-01 09:29:26 PM

moothemagiccow: cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?

oh FFS CONVICT THEM FIRST. I dont even care if it's a kangaroo court, put on the farking show at least. Theyre even in charge now that they went all hunger strike because everyone briefly forgot they existed


Or start by charging them with a crime? If they did something so terrible that it could even remotely warrant invading their home country, abducting them, and shipping them across the globe, you'd think that someone would have pretty strong evidence of their wrongdoing.
 
2013-05-01 09:33:15 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.

There's none of that at ADX Florence, so that's one problem solved.

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?

It's been suggested, but it's the whole quasi-legal status thing that's keeping it from happening. I'm all for it.

In any event, if you end up at ADX Florence you've failed completely at life. It's not easy to get there. Feel free to look at the devil's list of inmates and then ask yourself if you have a problem with it. Most of them would either kill others or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere. We could just execute them, but then we would be called inhuman monsters, so we don't, and we get called inhuman monsters. If we put them in genpop and something happens, we'll be called inhuman monsters. No-win situation.

No holds barred cage fighting live on pay per view.
16 men enter. 15 men die. 1 wins his freedom.


Do you really want to release a hardened criminal who just killed 15 other hardened criminals in a cage fight back into society?  Personally, that's the last guy in the world I want walking around the streets.
 
2013-05-01 09:34:29 PM

Giltric: Nem Wan: Don't most countries get along fine without having a prison like this and without so many life-without-parole sentences? The U.S. has the highest percentage of its population in prison of any country. That means we're doing it wrong.

We probably spend as much on "law enforcement" as the next 20 countries combined. We can afford to enforce the law and incarcerate criminals.


Works great, too, as reflected in our lower crime rates.


Oh, wait........
 
2013-05-01 09:38:21 PM

tjfly: Meh. Carandiru -- now THAT shiat hole is supremely farkeed up!
Dare you to google it.


There was a great film made about it as well.
 
2013-05-01 09:39:33 PM

Thisbymaster: Those Prisons sound like the best place to put the scum of the earth.  Now if only we could make it worse somehow.  Remember these are monsters, they murder rape and destroy, show them all the mercy they show others.


Remember, at least one guy who was there was guilty of nothing but giving away socks and rain coats.  Sure, he gave them to bad people, but I don't think that deserves <i>this</i>.
 
2013-05-01 09:40:18 PM

Ringo48: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Weaver95: Doing time is not supposed to include being raped by fellow prisoners or staff, beaten by guards for the slightest provocation, driven mad by long-term solitary confinement, or killed off by medical neglect.

authoritarians consider those 'freebies', and gleefully enjoy every story of prison abuse that they read about in the papers.

There's none of that at ADX Florence, so that's one problem solved.

cretinbob: So...move the Gitmo detainees there?

It's been suggested, but it's the whole quasi-legal status thing that's keeping it from happening. I'm all for it.

In any event, if you end up at ADX Florence you've failed completely at life. It's not easy to get there. Feel free to look at the devil's list of inmates and then ask yourself if you have a problem with it. Most of them would either kill others or be killed in short order if they were elsewhere. We could just execute them, but then we would be called inhuman monsters, so we don't, and we get called inhuman monsters. If we put them in genpop and something happens, we'll be called inhuman monsters. No-win situation.

No holds barred cage fighting live on pay per view.
16 men enter. 15 men die. 1 wins his freedom.

Do you really want to release a hardened criminal who just killed 15 other hardened criminals in a cage fight back into society?  Personally, that's the last guy in the world I want walking around the streets.


Air drop the winnar in a country we dont recognize as a country like Iran or Best Korea.
 
2013-05-01 09:41:12 PM

jso2897: Giltric: Nem Wan: Don't most countries get along fine without having a prison like this and without so many life-without-parole sentences? The U.S. has the highest percentage of its population in prison of any country. That means we're doing it wrong.

We probably spend as much on "law enforcement" as the next 20 countries combined. We can afford to enforce the law and incarcerate criminals.

Works great, too, as reflected in our lower crime rates.


I thought crime rates were going down, or do we only say that when somebody suggests opening new prisons or advocates concealed carry permits for personal self-defence? It's so hard to keep the narrative straight.
 
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