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(Guardian)   3D printing has hit its "tipping point" and could soon be available to many households the world over for people with a flair for design   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 29
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2013-05-01 02:44:41 PM
4 votes:
It's like Desktop Publishing, but in 3-D.  Now everyone can make poorly designed stuff!
2013-05-01 01:58:45 PM
3 votes:

KellyX: Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...


dl.dropboxusercontent.com
2013-05-01 02:40:02 PM
2 votes:

way south: I try to be respectful of everyone, but when a guy comes in and commanders every jesus 3d tech thread to the point where nothing gets discussed but his own thread shiatting... Yea, they deserve a jab in the ribs.


What is funny is that he is still doing that in a thread that he hasn't even appeared in yet!

That is how bad it is!
2013-05-01 02:32:13 PM
2 votes:
I mentioned this in the last 3D printing thread, but...

When I got my Volvo C30, I soon noticed that there were no coat hooks in back where every other farking vehicle on the planet has them.  I did find accessory slots, thought, for things like cargo nets and pet barriers.  So, I designed coat hooks to fit into those slots and uploaded the design to Shapeways:

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/c30accessories

I've sold 70 of the things.  I doubt most people would be able to measure for them properly and pick up a CAD tool quickly... most would just find it frustrating.

Plus, I did it for one job. I wouldn't want to own a printing setup.  I certainly don't see manufacturers providing downloadable designs for printable replacement parts rather than selling the parts themselves -- they can't control the quality of a home-printed part being put into something that may be under warranty.  The liability could be quite high on something like a mower, for example.
2013-05-01 01:35:31 PM
2 votes:
Here's a tip, subby: when the headline of an article asks a question, the answer is no.
2013-05-01 10:15:54 PM
1 votes:
I am trying to figure out a reason why anyone in middle America would want one of these beyond making homemade dildos and pocket pussies.
2013-05-01 10:13:53 PM
1 votes:
It'll be $49.99 for the printer and $3000 for 16ml of that plastic resin.
2013-05-01 09:00:16 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Putting drops of paint on a piece of paper was easy.


And yet in my lifetime we've gone from XeroxTM machines the size of a Model T (see what I did there?) that cost tens of thousands of dollars to the color laser sitting on my desk right now that set me back a couple hundred.  The technology advanced to the point where it was feasible to commoditize it.  If you're betting against technological progress you'll lose, nearly every time.

SewerSquirrels: but technophobe & Luddite aren't on the list


I'll argue that Luddism applies, albeit of a strangely narrow-focused sort.  What sets QA above the usual anti-science troll is the unexplainable vehemence of his crusade.  You can be counted upon to show a towering frothing passion in your arguments, and a mighty unwillingness to allow any dissenting opinion to tarnish your rage.

/Show me on the doll where NASA touched you.
2013-05-01 08:12:43 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Stone Meadow: LOL...see what I mean?

No, I don't.


And that's what makes him a lost cause, ladies and gentlemen. He's got his head so far up his ass he can't even tell when he's being an asshole anymore. You simply cannot make it clear that he is a combative, condescending bag of shiat. His crusade is too holy, too just. Surely his attitude is justified by his correctness, and it's everyone else's fault for being so stupid and making him be an asshole...

AdrienVeidt: Yeah, because ignoring does any damn thing to stop threads from smelling like shiat due to you guys quoting him.


This. We didn't even need him here, the idea of QA threadshiat has become too strong. It's out of control and has pretty much ruined this tab. But of course, don't hurt his feelings, he's got a firm grip on mod cock or something.
2013-05-01 07:43:36 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Funny how when technology advances it makes certain things obsolete....

But not 3D printing. We'll live in a solid-state digital world with no moving parts because moving parts are so old-fashioned and obsolete...

Except for 3D printers! Then moving parts are fun again!


I understand your point, QA, but don't jump to conclusions too quickly. As someone pointed out above, wrt to 3d printing we are about where we were with PCs 30 years ago. A more prosaic example of technological persistence is the automobile. Here is a Ford from a century ago...yes, a 1913 Ford Model T.

oldcarbrochures.org

And here is the control suite of a 1913 Model T...

upload.wikimedia.org

A driver from a century ago could climb into a 2013 Ford Focus (a modern Model T, arguably) and drive away in it without more than a moment of instruction on how to start the engine. Sure, a lot of the underlying specifics have changed, but the device as a whole is so universally useful that it continues to be made, used and improved upon ubiquitously.

I have a strong feeling computers and, yes, 3d printers will prove as durable.
2013-05-01 07:41:14 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Funny how we always end up comparing completely different things. Putting drops of paint on a piece of paper was easy. Do you not see the difference here? How much structural integrity is demanded from a 2D printout?


Speaking of talking about different things... I use the 2d printing analogy not because they're accomplishing the same thing but because it's a device where the home version is always outdone by the professional version, but it has a place in the way we go about tasks. Perhaps them both having "printer" in the name was too confusing. Maybe I should have asked why they still bother selling sewing machines. I mean, you can just buy a shirt at the store or send a pattern off to a factory to have it made. Why would anyone ever need to sew anything at home? The answers' pretty much the same as 3d printing - it's a fun hobby, it's cheaper for small runs, it's amazing for prototyping, there's a niche industry in pattern creation, and it allows you a large degree of freedom in making things.

Quantum Apostrophe: How many people still even use printers that much in the era of iPhones and tablets and e-ink and whatnot?


Modern commerce, of course, being primarily accomplished through means of hand-written labels.

Quantum Apostrophe: But not 3D printing. We'll live in a solid-state digital world with no moving parts because moving parts are so old-fashioned and obsolete...


No, by all means, come up with a solid state 3d printer. That'd be pretty neat. I mean, I guess you could do SLA via a DLP chip. You'd still have to shift the fluid level though. Maybe a piezoelectric pump? You could get pretty good precision out of it too.

/You're counting MEMS as "solid-state" right?
//I mean, you said iPhone
2013-05-01 07:40:16 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Then the usual excuses of "yeah but some expensive industrial process that requires three-phase power and a staff of engineers to run is like 3D printing, therefore my glue gun on a stepper motor at home is just the same!" are equally absurd. What is difficult to understand or believe about this?


Since when is three-phase power not a household thing?  Also, it's clear you're not an engineer.
2013-05-01 05:43:34 PM
1 votes:

Uncle Tractor: As we all know, 3d printers will forever stay at the level they are right now. There will be no further advancements of that technology.

[i560.photobucket.com image 400x304]


Exactly. Medical technology will stagnate as well. I mean we already know all we need to about the human body, why bother trying to learn more?
2013-05-01 05:35:15 PM
1 votes:
As we all know, 3d printers will forever stay at the level they are right now. There will be no further advancements of that technology.

i560.photobucket.com
2013-05-01 05:20:12 PM
1 votes:

KellyX: Mentalpatient87: KellyX: way south: KellyX: Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...

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Careful, Mod banned me for a day for posting that, told me it was harassing him by doing that *rolls eyes*

Harassing him?! What a farking crock. 5 bucks nothing, he's gotta give a mean handy.

Agreed, I did feel it was a crock of shiat and I did contact the mod and was told I should just place him on ignore...


Yeah, because ignoring does any damn thing to stop threads from smelling like shiat due to you guys quoting him. I rightly call him an intellectual coward and get my entire post deleted, while he gets to continue shiatting over and entire tab.

Please y'all, put the shiathead trolls on ignore, for all our sakes.
2013-05-01 04:19:25 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Stone Meadow: irrationally intense antipathy towards space exploration

We can "explore" space from the comfort of our computer chairs. We won't colonize Mars or build asteroid deflectors. What is difficult to understand or believe about this? "Space tourism" is a joyride for rich people to stare out a Plexiglas porthole for a few minutes in the upper atmosphere. We ain't Starfleet yet. What is difficult to understand or believe about this? It's the same elements all across the universe. Rocks and sand, we have plenty of pictures. We even have Moon rocks. And? This still ain't Star Trek. What is difficult to understand or believe about this?

The species doesn't care, and physics won't let you anyways. The delusions about space are what annoy me.


LOL...see what I mean?
2013-05-01 04:04:39 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: What is difficult to understand or believe about this? "Space tourism" is a joyride for rich people to stare out a Plexiglas porthole for a few minutes in the upper atmosphere. We ain't Starfleet yet. What is difficult to understand or believe about this?


What you never understand is that people aren't saying "lets goto Mars today", they're saying one day in the future we might be able to goto Mars. Now hush.
2013-05-01 03:57:54 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: irrationally intense antipathy towards space exploration


We can "explore" space from the comfort of our computer chairs. We won't colonize Mars or build asteroid deflectors. What is difficult to understand or believe about this? "Space tourism" is a joyride for rich people to stare out a Plexiglas porthole for a few minutes in the upper atmosphere. We ain't Starfleet yet. What is difficult to understand or believe about this? It's the same elements all across the universe. Rocks and sand, we have plenty of pictures. We even have Moon rocks. And? This still ain't Star Trek. What is difficult to understand or believe about this?

The species doesn't care, and physics won't let you anyways. The delusions about space are what annoy me.

Stone Meadow: I do agree with you wrt current consumer grade 3d printing...they're toys.


Yes, and the endless hype and bogus uses people come up with them is tiresome. Clearly they've never used one. They think they press a button and they'll be buried in high-quality figurines or something.

Then the usual excuses of "yeah but some expensive industrial process that requires three-phase power and a staff of engineers to run is like 3D printing, therefore my glue gun on a stepper motor at home is just the same!" are equally absurd. What is difficult to understand or believe about this?
2013-05-01 03:13:51 PM
1 votes:

CheetahOlivetti: RatOmeter: Fark_Guy_Rob: Mark my words - 3D printing will show up in every house within one year of the 'Year of the Linux Desktop'

Well, since this year (or was it last year?) is the Year of the Linux Handheld, ship me my printer already!

Well, it's a bit of a stretch, but if you have an Android phone or tablet, you do have a Linux Handheld. I will concede that the Linux Desktop is deader than the Playbook.

Still want a 3D printer, tho'.


Not a stretch at all.  My phone (yes, that's a root prompt):

i.imgur.com
2013-05-01 02:58:01 PM
1 votes:

KellyX: Mentalpatient87: KellyX: way south: KellyX: Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 525x750]

Careful, Mod banned me for a day for posting that, told me it was harassing him by doing that *rolls eyes*

Harassing him?! What a farking crock. 5 bucks nothing, he's gotta give a mean handy.

Agreed, I did feel it was a crock of shiat and I did contact the mod and was told I should just place him on ignore...


It's a quantum threadshiat.  Before clicking the comments section, QA has either posted or not (there is no way to tell).  Regardless, the thread still ends up threadshiat due to references to him.
2013-05-01 02:24:45 PM
1 votes:
Mark my words - 3D printing will show up in every house within one year of the 'Year of the Linux Desktop'
2013-05-01 02:22:35 PM
1 votes:
3D printing will never take off though. Some people have a life
2013-05-01 02:14:14 PM
1 votes:

KellyX: way south: KellyX: Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 525x750]

Careful, Mod banned me for a day for posting that, told me it was harassing him by doing that *rolls eyes*


I try to be respectful of everyone, but when a guy comes in and commanders every jesus 3d tech thread to the point where nothing gets discussed but his own thread shiatting... Yea, they deserve a jab in the ribs.

/Its understandable that theres always someone who won't like things that others like.
/but you gotta know when to say your piece and bow out.
2013-05-01 02:11:23 PM
1 votes:
The only way this has reached its tipping point is if they've got on-the-fly swapable extruder, similar to older plotters that swapped pens depending on the colour needed.

It needs to work with a wide range of materials and different colours if its going in to the general publics home, ABS plastic whilst tough enough for most things isn't what people want everything made of.

It also needs something other than a work flow that is decidedly geeky to make it do anything.

  

KellyX: Careful, Mod banned me for a day for posting that, told me it was harassing him by doing that *rolls eyes*


It's a factually accurate statement though.  That is all he does.
2013-05-01 02:01:10 PM
1 votes:
Part of me would like to have a machine shop loaded with CNC mills and lathes and a water jet cutter, but for purposes of rapid prototyping I'm better off paying someone who uses the machines 24-7 to add my parts to their work que. I suspect they're actually automated to the point of lights out manufacturing. The costs of financing or leasing $60k of machine tools would damn near pay for all the parts I'd order.

3D printing at home is as efficient as owning a photo developing studio. A small number of people and artist will benefit but the rest of us should just let the pros do it.  Although I must admit I've done a bit of prototyping with a scroll saw, file, hammer, thin plate aluminum and brass rod.

/A coping saw with a metal cutting blade is the poor engineering student's waterjet cutter.
2013-05-01 01:43:46 PM
1 votes:
FOR THE LOW, LOW PRICE OF 10,000 DOLLARS A PIECE!

Affordable for ANYONE the world over, you know.
2013-05-01 01:43:43 PM
1 votes:

KellyX: Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...


You saved me the trouble.
2013-05-01 01:42:28 PM
1 votes:

KellyX: Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...


QFT
2013-05-01 01:39:04 PM
1 votes:
Summoning QA to shiat all over this thread... 3... 2... 1...
 
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