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2013-05-01 12:27:42 PM  
I was given my first .22 at 7 by my uncle.  Yeah, I didn't have access to it unattended till I was older.  Parents should be charged.  There is no excuse for negligence of this level.
 
2013-05-01 12:27:43 PM  
The Lexington Herald-Leader reports the weapon - a Crickett branded by makers Keystone Sporting Arms as "My First Rifle" - was given to the boy last year.

 Crickett rifles from the "My First Rifle" collection for kids on the website of Keystone Sporting ArmsPromotional material on KSA's website says the gun aims to "instill safety in the minds of youth shooters."

..................so much for that promo material. Kids will ALWAYS be kids that why they are call KIDS!!!  You CANNOT 'GUNPROOF' kids anymore than you can 'CHILDPROOF' a chainsaw.


Farking gun ads and farking dumass redneck parents.
 
2013-05-01 12:27:44 PM  

pedrop357: Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 530x453]

I've been assured that nothing can be done and this is just the price we pay for freedom.

Don't tell him about the hundreds of kids who die in car crashes.



If only there was some sort of government regulation to make cars as safe as possible and limit the number of needless deaths!
 
2013-05-01 12:28:03 PM  

Lord_Baull: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Yeah, because making alcohol illegal for people under 21 stops them from drinking and driving.. and dying over a thousand times each year.  Oh wait, it doesn't.

And the number would be what without those laws? Higher, maybe? Your position that we should do nothing because current laws are not 100% effective is, well, stupid.


Do you have proof that the laws do anything?  Do teenagers care that alcohol is illegal?  Do they care that drinking and driving is illegal?  You're trying to legislate against stupidity, which is well, stupid.

Rules written on paper aren't what stop people from doing things that are harmful.  People stop doing things that are harmful when they have a deep realization of the reality, and consequences of harmful actions.
 
2013-05-01 12:28:10 PM  
hey, coonts from the previous thread:

farking owned.  now stfu.
 
2013-05-01 12:28:10 PM  

TNel: pedrop357: Is anyone going to criticize parents for allowing their kids to ride in cars, given that motor vehicles crashes are the leading cause for people 4 to 26?

Riding in cars (passive occupant) is the same as someone actively using a weapon?  I don't understand your logic.


I thought saving lives was the goal here.  Less than 50 kids die due to firearm accidents each year, while hundreds die in car crashes.

A child passenger is as passive as the victim was in this case.  A young driver is as active as the shooter was in this case.

People fail to realize that the reason people can exhaustively tabulate the children who die from firearm accidents is because the number is so small.

They wouldn't be able to keep up with all the kids who die in car crashes as passengers, drivers, and non occupants.
Their list would be much bigger if they did the same thing for all the kids killed at the hands of their parents and other caregivers, ditto for accidental drownings in pools and even things like buckets.

If saving children's lives is the goal and the standard is zero as set by some people here, let's go after the really big fish and try to save hundreds of lives.

The fact that people obsess over <50 and ignore hundreds demonstrates that they care more about the death in its ability to further a political agenda.
 
2013-05-01 12:29:08 PM  
here's my thoughts
#1 if you feel the need to arm your 5 year old, make it a bb/pellet gun
#2 this wasn't a "freak" accident, this was poor parenting, not only did they give a 5 y/o a .22 but they left it loaded, sitting in a corner of the house.
#3 getting past #2, it was left unsupervised, without a trigger lock or locked in a cabinet.

It's sad the little girl died, but I find it hard to have sympathy given the circumstances
 
2013-05-01 12:29:35 PM  

mytdawg: Hey, already got that "My First Manslaughter" out of the way too.  Making progress kid.


How many achievment points is that??
 
2013-05-01 12:29:50 PM  

dittybopper: Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).


So that's an acceptable able number of child deaths?  I wonder how much it has to be too much? Then I remember  Buckyballs have killed exactly 0 kids, but we can't have those anymore.
 
2013-05-01 12:29:59 PM  

dittybopper: bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.

Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.


That's nice.  How many 5 year olds do you think are given their own weapon and ammo without direct, constant supervision?  41 deaths seems low compared to the entire population of children.  41 deaths may seem much, much higher when you consider how many children have parents stupid enough to give them access to a gun unsupervised.
 
2013-05-01 12:30:02 PM  
crzybtch:

Well then lets give every 5 year old a bottle of Jack and a rifle, that ought to solve the problem!

This is pretty much why your side fails in these debates.  You only see your solution, and the exact opposite of your solution.  You can't ever seem to grasp that there's other options.
 
2013-05-01 12:30:07 PM  
There is no such thing as an accident with a gun. Every act carried out with a firearm is done with foresight and full intent. Calling any act involving a gun an "accident" is merely an attempt by the guilty party to dodge responsibility.

The parents are guilty of first-degree murder. Anyone who disagrees isn't responsible enough to own a gun.
 
2013-05-01 12:30:25 PM  

hardinparamedic: A_Listless_Wanderer: 15-year-olds are too young to be trusted with birth control

If you read that thread, you should have also learned that women are all filthy whores who seek to victimize men.


Oh, I knew that already!
 
2013-05-01 12:30:37 PM  
I think that as a parent if you are going to have a gun or guns in your house, the kids should be taught how to respect them and realize they are not a toy.  With that said,  the parents "didn't realize a shell was left in the rifle"  I'm sorry but part of responsible gun ownership is ensuring the weapon is safe and secured.  Crazy circumstances or not this is parental negligence.
 
2013-05-01 12:30:46 PM  

pedrop357: Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 530x453]

I've been assured that nothing can be done and this is just the price we pay for freedom.

Don't tell him about the hundreds of kids who die in car crashes.


When guns are subject to even a fraction of the regulation that cars are, then you MIGHT have an argument here.....
 
2013-05-01 12:30:46 PM  

pedrop357: TNel: pedrop357: Is anyone going to criticize parents for allowing their kids to ride in cars, given that motor vehicles crashes are the leading cause for people 4 to 26?

Riding in cars (passive occupant) is the same as someone actively using a weapon?  I don't understand your logic.

I thought saving lives was the goal here.  Less than 50 kids die due to firearm accidents each year, while hundreds die in car crashes.

A child passenger is as passive as the victim was in this case.  A young driver is as active as the shooter was in this case.

People fail to realize that the reason people can exhaustively tabulate the children who die from firearm accidents is because the number is so small.

They wouldn't be able to keep up with all the kids who die in car crashes as passengers, drivers, and non occupants.
Their list would be much bigger if they did the same thing for all the kids killed at the hands of their parents and other caregivers, ditto for accidental drownings in pools and even things like buckets.

If saving children's lives is the goal and the standard is zero as set by some people here, let's go after the really big fish and try to save hundreds of lives.

The fact that people obsess over <50 and ignore hundreds demonstrates that they care more about the death in its ability to further a political agenda.


It's the old "Look at all the crickett rifles that DIDN'T kill anyone" argument.
 
2013-05-01 12:30:58 PM  

Jairzinho: pedrop357: Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 530x453]

I've been assured that nothing can be done and this is just the price we pay for freedom.

Don't tell him about the hundreds of kids who die in car crashes.

How many of them were 5yr old and driving?


Probably not many.  Again, I thought the goal was saving lives and railing against dangerous behavior that kills children.

Since cars, pools, parents, etc. kill far more children than guns, why the obsession with guns?  It's almost like the death is used not to just call for safer behavior, but to pursue a tired agenda.
 
2013-05-01 12:31:02 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: hicks + no education + guns =


hicks
+ no education
+ guns
=
www4.bluevalleyk12.org
 
2013-05-01 12:31:09 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Do you have proof that the laws do anything?  Do teenagers care that alcohol is illegal?  Do they care that drinking and driving is illegal?  You're trying to legislate against stupidity, which is well, stupid.

Rules written on paper aren't what stop people from doing things that are harmful.  People stop doing things that are harmful when they have a deep realization of the reality, and consequences of harmful actions.


Ah, the old "Laws don't do anything but punish people" spiel. It's been about 20 minutes since this one was used on FARK, I was starting to worry people had grown old and tired of being so intellectually dishonest.

pedrop357: I thought saving lives was the goal here.  Less than 50 kids die due to firearm accidents each year, while hundreds die in car crashes.


And how many of those deaths were preventable in the car crash, due to circumstances outside of the control of the driver?

Let's look at that, and then look at how many preventable deaths there were from firearms among children. (I'm going to say equal to the amount that die each year)
 
2013-05-01 12:31:16 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: My First Car yields predictable results

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10583657/ns/dateline_nbc/t/car-crash-trail -b roken-lives/

Shall we examine Statistics which is deadlier, or just flame gun owners, because that's what the new meme is?



1. Cars/Guns comparison is stupid. Cars have a primary use of transportation. Guns have a primary use of firing bullets.

2. No one gives a car to a 5 year old or tries to teach a five year old to drive.

3. We do require licensing to drive a car.
 
2013-05-01 12:31:57 PM  

the_immoral_minority: Who was the philosopher that said "There are no accidents"

Spot on here


That was the turtle in "Kung Fu Panda."

Still spot on.
 
2013-05-01 12:32:14 PM  

hardinparamedic: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Do you have proof that the laws do anything?  Do teenagers care that alcohol is illegal?  Do they care that drinking and driving is illegal?  You're trying to legislate against stupidity, which is well, stupid.

Rules written on paper aren't what stop people from doing things that are harmful.  People stop doing things that are harmful when they have a deep realization of the reality, and consequences of harmful actions.

Ah, the old "Laws don't do anything but punish people" spiel. It's been about 20 minutes since this one was used on FARK, I was starting to worry people had grown old and tired of being so intellectually dishonest.

pedrop357: I thought saving lives was the goal here.  Less than 50 kids die due to firearm accidents each year, while hundreds die in car crashes.

And how many of those deaths were preventable in the car crash, due to circumstances outside of the control of the driver?

Let's look at that, and then look at how many preventable deaths there were from firearms among children. (I'm going to say equal to the amount that die each year)


I'll be waiting patiently for your proof that laws stop people from doing stupid things.
 
2013-05-01 12:33:44 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Do you have proof that the laws do anything?


We really need to eliminate homicide laws. We're punishing the responsible killers while criminals will kill regardless of the law.
 
2013-05-01 12:34:14 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: James!: So the solution to the gun problem is better mental health services in the US but giving a gun to a kinder-gardener is A-OK?

No, even the NRA would not say that this was A-OK.


Wait a day or so.  The 2nd amendment applies to all citizens equally, and this kid was a citizen from the moment of conception.  As long as it wasn't legitimate rape.
 
2013-05-01 12:34:24 PM  

tricycleracer: Yogimus: Gotta admit, though... it IS a pretty good litmus test of someone's parenting skills.

You can only buy a gun for your kid if you're a good parent, but only a bad parent would want to buy a gun for their kid.

A real "Catch .22".



my sides have left the building
 
2013-05-01 12:34:25 PM  

pedrop357: Since cars, pools, parents, etc. kill far more children than guns, why the obsession with guns?


Q: Which of the following were invented to inflict harm and death?

a- cars
b- pools
c- guns
 
2013-05-01 12:34:32 PM  

Lord_Baull: pedrop357: Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 530x453]

I've been assured that nothing can be done and this is just the price we pay for freedom.

Don't tell him about the hundreds of kids who die in car crashes.


If only there was some sort of government regulation to make cars as safe as possible and limit the number of needless deaths!


Yes, and it's doing a wonderful job.  Hundreds dead, thousands injured.
Repeat with things like pools, bathtubs and buckets and their role in small children drowning

Guns which number in the hundreds of millions are responsible for about 40-50 deaths each year,  and that is where everyone really wants to focus?  Perhaps a little perspective is called for.  Parents should be definitely more responsible, but given that we tolerate far more deaths due to accident in other areas, I can't help but wonder why the high priority given to gun accidents.
 
2013-05-01 12:34:55 PM  
I love the comments.

"If that 2 year old were armed she'd be alive today.
sincerely, The NRA"
 
2013-05-01 12:36:12 PM  
Guns still don't kill people though, right?
 
2013-05-01 12:36:15 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: I'll be waiting patiently for your proof that laws stop people from doing stupid things.


I'm not getting into this circular argument with you, because I get tired of chasing your goalposts down. If you want proof that laws stop people from doing "stupid things", you can resort to what ever social philosopher that is your soup de jour.

I'm just going to mock you for touting out such intellectual laziness and dishonesty.

In other words, welcome to FARK.
 
2013-05-01 12:36:29 PM  
white people, amirite?

smdh
 
2013-05-01 12:36:32 PM  

noitsnot: Itstoearly: hardinparamedic: This was a triumph.

I'm making a note here, huge success.

It's hard to understate my satisfaction.

For the good of all of us...

(EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE DEAD)

kbronsito: or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)

No offense, but perhaps five years old is a little too young to try to teach a child to do anything with a firearm but stay away from them and call an adult if they see one.

If he's too young to understand the gravitas of a concept such as death, then he's too young to play with a bang stick.

Bull.  5 years is old enough to teach how to properly handle a gun.  Not that I would ever trust one alone with one without adult supervision, but a five year old certainly has the mental capacity to learn "Don't point at people or animals, don't hold the trigger unless you are aiming at the paper target, assume there is always a bullet in the gun"

No Bull. Have a look here at the emotional development of a five year old. They have not yet learned the concept of death. They cannot yet view the world from another's point of view. They do not understand ethical or moral values.


Yes. But is a 5-year old able to understand that you'll take the gun away forever and whoop his ass if he touches it w/o an adult present.

Of course... if the kid knows that you'll take his gun away to whoop his ass... he may shoot you to protect his gun ownership right and to keep you from whooping him. I guess it is a bit of a conundrum.
 
2013-05-01 12:36:57 PM  

dittybopper: Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.


Lawn darts killed a total of 3 people before they were banned.

/Given enough lawn darts, I'm pretty sure I can hold back a SWAT assault.
 
2013-05-01 12:37:17 PM  
I learned to shoot at 7 with a .22 but in a controlled environment in scouting. My folks let me have a bb gun and let me shoot unsupervised at targets in the backyard when I was probably 8.

I would never consider giving a .22 to a 5 year old. If I had a child in the house, a gun would always be in a locked safe it sure as shiat wouldn't be sitting in the corner whether or not I thought it was loaded because a gun is ALWAYS considered loaded.

A family is ruined because the parents couldn't observe a simple farking safety rule. Imagine how the 5 yo is going to have to live the rest of his life knowing he killed his sister.
 
2013-05-01 12:37:25 PM  
From the Crickett Testimonials page


http://www.crickett.com/crickett_testimonials.php?osCsid=fg527ig2rj8 qa gprf906lgcpl2">http://www.crickett.com/crickett_testimonials.php?osCs id=fg527ig2rj8qa gprf906lgcpl2

"My wife told me to do something with my daughter after gymnastics today, she recommended going for hot chocolate or a donut. I thought, that's not special, plus once you've consumed the item where does that leave you. Instead we bought a pink Crickett from my six year old daughter and wanted to say thanks for making quality affordable firearms for new shooters. The 'girls' option is especially appreciated because as scary as it sounds the color really helped get her excitet about it. Bethany says thanks too! She'll be quite fashionalble at the Sportsman Club tomorrow." Chris "I wanted to tell you about my daughter's first gun. For Christmas 05' My oldest kid,6,wanted Santa to bring her, her first real gun. When her teacher at school told the class to write a letter to Santa about what they really wanted for Christmans, she wrote "I want a rel gun my size". The teacher said she couldn't write that at school and had to write something else. When she told me and her mom about that I decided taht if i had to sell one of my guns to get her one I would..Luckally I didn't have to sell any of mine to get Chris her gun. She is so responsible, and had proved it with a bb gun, that my wife and I went shopping a few days before Christmas...Our local gun store had just the perfect model in stock. Pink laminiated stock and stainless barrel. To see her face on Christmas morning after opening te wrapping paper was priceless. Out of the box she was a crack shot at 10-15 yeards, and just yesterday she bagged her first ground squirl at about 15 yards..thank you for such a great product that has brought so much fun and joy to my kid...and our family."Michael "I just wanted to send in a photo of my daughter's new Crickett rifle. I ordered it from Gander Mountain.It is a bull barrel thumbhole pink laminated stock model. I added a bipod and a 3.5x10x50 scope. It turned out to be a great little target gun for her. I enjoy shooting it too."

Larry -- From GA
 
2013-05-01 12:37:28 PM  

pedrop357: Lord_Baull: pedrop357: Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 530x453]

I've been assured that nothing can be done and this is just the price we pay for freedom.

Don't tell him about the hundreds of kids who die in car crashes.


If only there was some sort of government regulation to make cars as safe as possible and limit the number of needless deaths!

Yes, and it's doing a wonderful job.  Hundreds dead, thousands injured.
Repeat with things like pools, bathtubs and buckets and their role in small children drowning

Guns which number in the hundreds of millions are responsible for about 40-50 deaths each year,  and that is where everyone really wants to focus?  Perhaps a little perspective is called for.  Parents should be definitely more responsible, but given that we tolerate far more deaths due to accident in other areas, I can't help but wonder why the high priority given to gun accidents.


Ladies and gentlemen, the stereotypical libertarian.
 
2013-05-01 12:37:48 PM  

pedrop357: crzybtch: Only 41 kids dead? Oh, then no problem. Lets keep kids and guns together.

Or maybe....ZERO kids dead might be a better idea??

Like it would RUIN someone's life if they didn't touch a gun til they are 21? Seriously??

ZERO is a good number.  Like it would seriously RUIN someone's life if they didn't ride in or drive a car until they are 21?  Seriously??


A person can live their whole life without ever touching a gun without any problem.  Completely realistic.
A person could live their whole life without ever driving a car.  Unrealistic in today's world, but possible.

However, if you throw out a vote for a law that gun and cars are banned for all until age 21, you get my vote.  Call me an idiot, but I want less dead children.

That being said, for you to compare teenagers getting killed in car wrecks versus a FIVE year old killing his little sister with a gun, I think you really need to think a little harder about the difference between the two.  Seriously!
 
2013-05-01 12:37:57 PM  
but they're sooooo cute with their little guns...
won' t someone think of the children('s second amendment rights)

www.addictinginfo.org

btw... don't do a google image search of 'kids with guns'
 
2013-05-01 12:37:58 PM  

dittybopper: bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.

Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.


Well that excuses the fact that following firearm safety rules could have prevented this. "Doesn't happen often so that makes it an accident." Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
2013-05-01 12:38:07 PM  
A 5-year-old certainly has the capacity to learn firearm safety and understand certain consequences. The emotional and intellectual discipline to be relied on to apply that learning is something else entirely, as is the physical development to avoid waving it around or accidentally pulling the trigger if they're rough-housing or get distracted.

I'm about as freedom loving as they get, but these parents should be charged. It's Guns 101 that there could always be a loaded round you didn't know about. The simple fact that they've admitted they didn't care enough or know enough to check for a round and yet left it out for a child to access anyway should really be treated as a reckless disregard for human life. Just because it was a crazy accident doesn't mean the crazy that led to the death of a child shouldn't be regarded as a crime.
 
2013-05-01 12:38:14 PM  
Why wouldn't you just get the kid a BB gun? What could you possibly be doing at 5 years old that you couldn't do with a BB gun? It's like giving a 5yr old a Kawasaki instead of a tricycle. They're called "baby steps" for a reason.
 
2013-05-01 12:38:55 PM  

kbronsito: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)


Five, dude. Five years old. You can't teach a 5-year-old not to crap his pants with 100 percent success. You buy a rifle for a 5-year-old, you should get a stern talking-to from DFCS. Eight is another thing entirely, but no kid should have unsupervised access to firearms and ammo.
 
2013-05-01 12:39:06 PM  

dittybopper: bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.

Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.


Just because other parents are smart enough to keep loaded guns locked up and away from their children doesn't suddenly make this not a case of negligence.  These kids parents were negligent, plain and simple.

/the little ones probably would have found some other way to die if it weren't for the gun
 
2013-05-01 12:39:13 PM  

pedrop357: Is anyone going to criticize parents for allowing their kids to ride in cars, given that motor vehicles crashes are the leading cause for people 4 to 26?


No, but I would certainly criticize parents for allowing their kids to  drive cars, and I would most assuredly criticize a company that produces, markets and sells a fully functional car designed especially for 5-year-olds.
You really can't be so daft that you don't recognize the difference, right?
 
2013-05-01 12:39:36 PM  

Jairzinho: pedrop357: Since cars, pools, parents, etc. kill far more children than guns, why the obsession with guns?

Q: Which of the following were invented to inflict harm and death?

a- cars
b- pools
c- guns


I suppose you want the answer c, so I'll give you that.

What's great about the order you placed those in, is that it's the same rank those things have in accidental deaths and injuries of small children.

The one thing "invented to inflict harm and death " is responsible for much less of it than things not invented for that purpose.

I guess when it comes to focusing on the things that kill and injure small children, their welfare takes a backseat (no pun intended) to more agenda pushing.
 
2013-05-01 12:40:33 PM  

pedrop357: Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 530x453]

I've been assured that nothing can be done and this is just the price we pay for freedom.

Don't tell him about the hundreds of kids who die in car crashes.


You know, I grew up around guns. Hunted most of my life and I do in fact support the 2nd amendment. The rest of us reasonable and rational gun owners really wish guys like you would STFU. You are not helping. Your argument is the worst kind of nonsense and everyone see's through your lame attempt to change the subject.
 
2013-05-01 12:41:12 PM  

Sofa King Smart: but they're sooooo cute with their little guns...
won' t someone think of the children('s second amendment rights)

[www.addictinginfo.org image 650x422]

btw... don't do a google image search of 'kids with guns'


...now imagine they're black.
 
2013-05-01 12:41:43 PM  
There weren't guns in the house when I was growing up,my mom can't stand them because she watched her dad shoot himself in the chest twice with a .38. I went to a summer camp thing sponsored by the Kentucky Forestry division and before we ever got to even touch the guns we were taught a ton about gun safety and they never allowed us to be unsupervised with them.
/Boring story sis.
 
2013-05-01 12:41:45 PM  

pippi longstocking: Get rid of the 2nd Amendment, it's a relic. A gun is not a human right to life, it's a privilege. I'm not saying that they should take away your guns, but they should be treated as a privilege not a right.

You have more of a "right" to a gun than you do to a driver's license.


Well, that, and most people who keep guns for "protection" keep it for "protecting" themselves from fellow civilians, not against the government.
 
2013-05-01 12:42:31 PM  
Giving a 4 year old child a gun is a God given right!

Shooting toddlers is just some crazy accident...much in the same way as a shart!  There's no need to charge the parents, hell I'm sure they'll look back on this in the coming years and just laugh and laugh about how they armed their 4 year old and then a year later, whoo boy did we have fun!
 
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