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2013-05-01 11:53:12 AM
Imagine the havoc he could gave wrought if he had been given a Kinder Surprise.
 
2013-05-01 11:53:23 AM

PreMortem: 'just one of those crazy accidents.'


Honestly, it was wacky.
 
2013-05-01 11:53:29 AM
Maybe it was self defense
 
2013-05-01 11:53:48 AM
Definitive proof that a gun is just another tool, like a can-opener, and needs no extra care nor concern.

/amidoinitrite?
 
2013-05-01 11:53:59 AM
Who was the philosopher that said "There are no accidents"

Spot on here
 
2013-05-01 11:54:00 AM

bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.


No, the problem is not that a 5 year old was holding a loaded gun.  The problem was that an adult should have been there, also holding the gun, to make sure safety is a priority.  I've seen a kid about 18 months shoot a rifle... because his father was holding it at the same time.  I think teaching kids all about firearms at a young age is good because it takes the "mystery" out of guns.  Like abstinence-only education, kids are going to get curious and experiment.  The thing is, you need to never leave a child alone with a gun, and always keep the gun inaccessible from them, until they are old enough to be responsible.
 
2013-05-01 11:54:06 AM
Call me nutty, and lock and load your derp, gunheads, but I have to ask, are you okay with giving a farking weapon to a 5-year old?  Is there not even a minimum age for guns, or has the NRA fought this too?
 
2013-05-01 11:54:41 AM
I don't know rules.  Did the 5 year old need a permit to own the gun and did he have one?
 
2013-05-01 11:54:56 AM
Parental negligence.

Did not secure the weapon, did not clear the weapon, did not supervise the use, and clearly did not train the five year old on how he should handle a weapon (as if it is loaded).  I feel terrible for that five year old.  The parents should not have been allowed to breed.
 
2013-05-01 11:54:58 AM
And all Ralphie got was a Daisy Red Rider BB gun .
 
2013-05-01 11:54:59 AM
Kentucky's "Stand your Playground" law at work.
 
2013-05-01 11:55:11 AM

dittybopper: bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.

Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.


No, see, an 'accident' implies that there is no real fault here.

Unless you feel the parents aren't at fault, and shouldn't be prosecuted in any fashion? OH WELL, THESE THINGS JUST HAPPEN I SUPPOSE, *SHRUG* should be the appropriate response?

Let alone the idea of marketing a gun like "My First Rifle", as if it were a goddamn *TOY*...
 
2013-05-01 11:55:13 AM
My First Car yields predictable results

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10583657/ns/dateline_nbc/t/car-crash-trail -b roken-lives/

Shall we examine Statistics which is deadlier, or just flame gun owners, because that's what the new meme is?
 
2013-05-01 11:55:24 AM

the_immoral_minority: Who was the philosopher that said "There are no accidents"

Spot on here


Bob Ross.
 
2013-05-01 11:55:25 AM
Meh I was learning to shoot a rifle at that age. Was a tad funny because the rifle my mom was teaching me with was such that I had to brace it on the fence to shoot... I couldn't hold it by myself. I was pretty good at it other than that.
 
2013-05-01 11:55:48 AM
Cumberland County Coroner Gary White said the family had not realized a shell was left inside the gun, which was kept in a corner of the house.

Responsible gun owners, indeed.
 
2013-05-01 11:55:51 AM
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2013-05-01 11:56:17 AM

dittybopper: bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.

Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.


Rarity does not make something an accident.  Marathon bombings are also pretty uncommon.  Would you consider that an accident?
 
2013-05-01 11:56:18 AM

darth_badger: And all Ralphie got was a Daisy Red Rider BB gun .


"You'll shoot your sister's brain and eye out, kid!"
 
2013-05-01 11:56:21 AM
I think I meant to say: "In before the boring and overplayed anti-NRA cliches..." oh well. Too late.
 
2013-05-01 11:56:29 AM
When I'm dealing with a kid who makes the task of opening a tube of GoGurt look like the end of a porno movie, giving him a deadly firearm wouldn't be my first thought.
 
2013-05-01 11:56:29 AM
Brilliant work stopping that tyranny before she could mature into something more dangerous to our American way of life.  This boy should get a parade and a seat on the NRA Board of Directors.

The important thing is that this five year old's Second Amendment rights (bestowed in love from Jesus himself) weren't infringed upon by some lackwitted, goosestepping Obamanaut
 
2013-05-01 11:56:31 AM
If you give a .22 to a 5 year old then you have mental problems. I don't know how else to say it.

No one's going to jail for this, are they? They kept a loaded .22 leaning in the corner of the living room and they're going to be allowed to just keep on screwing up this 5 year olds life for the next 13 years.
 
2013-05-01 11:56:34 AM

Itstoearly: No, the problem is not that a 5 year old was holding a loaded gun.


No, the problem is that a 5 year old, who thinks DEATH IS REVERSIBLE, was given a loaded weapon and taught to play with it, and then given access to ammunition while being allowed to treat an unloaded weapon as a toy.

Itstoearly: The problem was that an adult should have been there, also holding the gun, to make sure safety is a priority.  I've seen a kid about 18 months shoot a rifle... because his father was holding it at the same time.


Hey, I too can present totally different situations than what happened here and argue from them.

Itstoearly: Like abstinence-only education, kids are going to get curious and experiment.  The thing is, you need to never leave a child alone with a gun, and always keep the gun inaccessible from them, until they are old enough to be responsible.


The only thing you should be teaching a kid to do with a gun that is not in the hands of a responsible adult at the age of five years old is to tell an adult and stay the fark away from them.
 
2013-05-01 11:57:02 AM

radarlove: When we ban guns for 5-year-olds, only criminal 5-year-olds will have guns!


Just ban 5-year olds!
 
2013-05-01 11:57:11 AM
Responsible gun owners are responsible.
 
2013-05-01 11:57:18 AM
Did anyone read the thing?  The kid was 4 when they gave him the gun!!!!  FTFA "The Lexington Herald-Leader reports the weapon - a Crickett branded by makers Keystone Sporting Arms as "My First Rifle" - was given to the boy last year."

WTF!  Charge those parents with criminally negligent manslaughter.
 
2013-05-01 11:57:19 AM

dittybopper: Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.


Being uncommon makes it an accident?

Only three people have been killed by bombs during the entire history of the Boston Marathon, so I guess that was "one of those crazy accidents."
 
2013-05-01 11:57:21 AM
Itstoearly:
I think teaching kids all about firearms at a young age is good because it takes the "mystery" out of guns.  Like abstinence-only education, kids are

Oh man, I remember when I was a dumb 14 year old, me and the girl next door sneaked into her parent's shed and totally shot each other with her dad's hunting rifle. Man, to be young again!
 
2013-05-01 11:57:25 AM

Clemkadidlefark: My First Car yields predictable results

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10583657/ns/dateline_nbc/t/car-crash-trail -b roken-lives/

Shall we examine Statistics which is deadlier, or just flame gun owners, because that's what the new meme is?


Was the driver 5 years old?
 
2013-05-01 11:57:25 AM

Clemkadidlefark: My First Car yields predictable results

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10583657/ns/dateline_nbc/t/car-crash-trail -b roken-lives/

Shall we examine Statistics which is deadlier, or just flame gun owners, because that's what the new meme is?


Generally cars are not marketed to five year olds, and I can think of no states where it is legal to attempt to teach your five year old to drive.

Again, please take a look at the rifle in the story. It's selling a farking *gun* as, well, a toy.

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Anything at all?
 
2013-05-01 11:57:43 AM
My 12 year old daughter has this exact same type of rifle, it has an internal lock that keeps the bolt from closing, and it stays locked and in my closet when we are not going out shooting. We also didn't give it to her until she was 11 and demonstrated she knew proper gun safety and she had a certain level of maturity to know the rifle is not a toy.
 
2013-05-01 11:57:51 AM
Oh yay.  This thread again (again, and again, and again...).
 
2013-05-01 11:58:04 AM

Clemkadidlefark: My First Car yields predictable results

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10583657/ns/dateline_nbc/t/car-crash-trail -b roken-lives/

Shall we examine Statistics which is deadlier, or just flame gun owners, because that's what the new meme is?


Funny how no one is saying ban guns, only attacking the irresponsibility and negligence of a parent.

But hey, that's just because we watched Sesame Street as a kid and learned how to tell "One of these things is not like the other", and not Bernie's Right Wing Christian Hate Fest on TBN.
 
2013-05-01 11:58:06 AM
FTFA: Promotional material on KSA's website says the gun aims to "instill safety in the minds of youth shooters."

Cumberland County Coroner Gary White said the family had not realized a shell was left inside the gun, which was kept in a corner of the house.


Of course what it doesn't state is it instills safety in the minds of youth shooters via negative reinforcement by learning the hard way what not to do. Parents too.
 
2013-05-01 11:58:24 AM
The important thing to remember is that further infringement of our second amendment rights would not have prevented this from happening.
 
2013-05-01 11:58:24 AM
dittybopper:
/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.


That sounds like socialism to me.  Why do you hate the 2nd Amendment?
 
2013-05-01 11:58:41 AM

hardinparamedic: This was a triumph.

I'm making a note here, huge success.

It's hard to understate my satisfaction.

For the good of all of us...

(EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE DEAD)

kbronsito: or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)

No offense, but perhaps five years old is a little too young to try to teach a child to do anything with a firearm but stay away from them and call an adult if they see one.

If he's too young to understand the gravitas of a concept such as death, then he's too young to play with a bang stick.


Bull.  5 years is old enough to teach how to properly handle a gun.  Not that I would ever trust one alone with one without adult supervision, but a five year old certainly has the mental capacity to learn "Don't point at people or animals, don't hold the trigger unless you are aiming at the paper target, assume there is always a bullet in the gun"
 
2013-05-01 11:58:48 AM
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEAL MY JELLO.
 
2013-05-01 11:59:08 AM

Itstoearly: No, the problem is not that a 5 year old was holding a loaded gun.  The problem was that an adult should have been there, also holding the gun, to make sure safety is a priority.  I've seen a kid about 18 months shoot a rifle... because his father was holding it at the same time.  I think teaching kids all about firearms at a young age is good because it takes the "mystery" out of guns.  Like abstinence-only education, kids are going to get curious and experiment.  The thing is, you need to never leave a child alone with a gun, and always keep the gun inaccessible from them, until they are old enough to be responsible.


Not a fan of guns myself, but I concur.
 
2013-05-01 11:59:29 AM

Marcus Aurelius: kbronsito: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)

I'm not certain that can be taught to every five year old.  What you do instead is keep your firearms in a gun safe, and keep the combination a closely guarded secret.


you should still do the gun safe thing too... but teaching him not to point the gun at humans is a nice built in redundancy in the system. And the kid was supposed to learn that rule eventually anyways. My uncle gave some sort of bb gun to his grandson (age 6) and told him the no pointing rule. A couple of days later, the kid pointed it at him anyways but then pointed it away quicly in a typical attempt to test his boundaries. He lost the gun for some time and got a time out also.
 
2013-05-01 11:59:43 AM

Yogimus: Complete failure of the parental system..

/where did the little fark get their hands on 22 ammo?


There was a live round left in the chamber ftfa.
 
2013-05-01 11:59:45 AM
i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-01 12:00:13 PM
What a crazy accident!  Just crazy I tells ya!
 
2013-05-01 12:00:43 PM

doyner: The 5 year-old had a clean record.  Background checks wouldn't have prevented this.


They may, however, have prevented his dumbass parents from purchasing it.

/speculating obviously
//but so is assuming this trigger-happy 5-year-old had a clean record
 
2013-05-01 12:01:31 PM

Shrugging Atlas: What a crazy accident!  Just crazy I tells ya!


Couldn't have been prevented, no sir!  It was like God wanted that kid to murder that baby.
 
2013-05-01 12:01:34 PM

James!: So the solution to the gun problem is better mental health services in the US but giving a gun to a kinder-gardener is A-OK?


If we had better mental health services, the parents would likely have been flagged.
 
2013-05-01 12:01:37 PM
They'll try the kid as an an adult and toss him into the general population at Rikers island.
 
2013-05-01 12:01:37 PM

Itstoearly: Bull.  5 years is old enough to teach how to properly handle a gun.


A child at five years of age does not understand the gravity or concept of Death. Unless you are teaching your child that it is okay to use that rifle when Dad, Mom, or Grandparents are with you and with their permission, and to not touch the thing otherwise, you are failing as a parent. In TFA, the gun being used was marketed  as a farking toy.Not as a weapon that could maim or kill another person.

Itstoearly: Not that I would ever trust one alone with one without adult supervision, but a five year old certainly has the mental capacity to learn "Don't point at people or animals, don't hold the trigger unless you are aiming at the paper target, assume there is always a bullet in the gun"


And guess what happened here.
 
2013-05-01 12:01:39 PM

Itstoearly


No, the problem is not that a 5 year old was holding a loaded gun.


THAT IS PRECISELY THE PROBLEM.

Unload the firearm: no accident. Lock up the firearm: no accident.


The problem was that an adult should have been there, also holding the gun, to make sure safety is a priority. I've seen a kid about 18 months shoot a rifle... because his father was holding it at the same time.


There is no set of circumstances under which it would be okay for a child to handle a loaded firearm in a dwelling.
 
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