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2013-05-01 10:55:33 AM
You should see the bill from the taxidermist.
 
2013-05-01 10:59:04 AM
The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.
 
2013-05-01 11:06:08 AM
That toddler was coming right at him.
 
2013-05-01 11:08:53 AM
this wouldn't have happened if the two-year-old had been carrying.
 
2013-05-01 11:11:31 AM
The only solution to a bad five year old with a gun is a good five year old with a gun.
 
2013-05-01 11:13:02 AM
Wait wait wait, I have another.  When will Obama call this a terrorist act?
 
2013-05-01 11:15:58 AM

jehovahs witness protection: You should see the bill from the taxidermist.


"He gonna have a heart attack when he sees what I brung him!"
 
2013-05-01 11:17:20 AM

bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.


Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.
 
2013-05-01 11:18:20 AM

Marcus Aurelius: jehovahs witness protection: You should see the bill from the taxidermist.

"He gonna have a heart attack when he sees what I brung him!"


How farked would that be if the parents did have the toddler stuffed and kept it in the house?  Like make the older kid apologize to his stuffed dead sister every day.
 
2013-05-01 11:18:58 AM

Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.


just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.
 
2013-05-01 11:25:17 AM
'just one of those crazy accidents.'
 
2013-05-01 11:29:33 AM
When we ban guns for 5-year-olds, only criminal 5-year-olds will have guns!
 
2013-05-01 11:33:12 AM

bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.


Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.
 
2013-05-01 11:34:03 AM

Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.


or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)
 
2013-05-01 11:40:50 AM
Ma, come quick I accidentally instilled safety into the mind!
 
2013-05-01 11:42:28 AM

dittybopper: bdub77: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

just one of those 'crazy accidents' i guess. OOPSIE.

Actually, yes, it is.

Do you know how many kids age 11 and under die in gun accidents every year?

Less than 50.  In fact, in 2010, the number was 41.  The chance is literally greater than a million to one (the rate is .08 per 100,000).

So yeah, it *IS* one of those crazy accidents.

/Of course, shouldn't have been any ammo in the room
//Should have been very supervised at that age.
///littlebopper got his first .22 at age 8.


No, an accident is 'Tommy fell out of the tree'. OK you're a parent, you told Tommy to play outside, you didn't mind that Tommy wants to climb the tree, you might have even been watching him, so maybe you blame yourself for his fall. Maybe he dies, you're definitely broken up about it, you definitely blame yourself. Still, accidents happen and you can't always be a split second from your child.

Maybe a gun accident is Tommy was for whatever reason out hunting, supervised by an adult, and accidentally shoots someone or is accidentally shot. I dunno maybe someone was mistaken for a deer. Still terrible.

A gun accident is not 'I left a working firearm in the presence of a five year old which could at any time be used to actually load a bullet into the chamber and be fired, and one of the main rules of firearms is always assume the weapon is loaded. It's obviously tragic, but more importantly, entirely preventable with proper firearm safety. This was gross negligence, not an accident. And as I said before, a five year old IMO should NEVER have access to a firearm because they are five f*cking years old. It was his firearm. It was given to him. That isn't an accident either.
 
2013-05-01 11:43:54 AM
This was a triumph.

I'm making a note here, huge success.

It's hard to understate my satisfaction.

For the good of all of us...

(EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE DEAD)

kbronsito: or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)


No offense, but perhaps five years old is a little too young to try to teach a child to do anything with a firearm but stay away from them and call an adult if they see one.

If he's too young to understand the gravitas of a concept such as death, then he's too young to play with a bang stick.
 
2013-05-01 11:44:42 AM
So the solution to the gun problem is better mental health services in the US but giving a gun to a kinder-gardener is A-OK?
 
2013-05-01 11:45:42 AM
Literally a child too young to control it's bladder has a firearm and that's perfectly fine.
 
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2013-05-01 11:46:21 AM

jehovahs witness protection: You should see the bill from the taxidermist.


Thanks.  Now we're both going to hell.
 
2013-05-01 11:48:07 AM

James!: How farked would that be if the parents did have the toddler stuffed and kept it in the house? Like make the older kid apologize to his stuffed dead sister every day.


Can you even do that?  I mean, get a person stuffed or have their head mounted?
 
2013-05-01 11:48:39 AM
Complete failure of the parental system..

/where did the little fark get their hands on 22 ammo?
 
2013-05-01 11:48:48 AM

James!: So the solution to the gun problem is better mental health services in the US but giving a gun to a kinder-gardener is A-OK?


No, even the NRA would not say that this was A-OK. It's a farking tragedy of stupid proportions. I just hope they sterilize the parents and place the kid with someone who has more farking sense.
 
2013-05-01 11:48:48 AM
BB guns for kids under 10. That's the golden rule of guns.

A .22? What the hell were these parents thinking?

A Daisy or even an airsoft would have been just as good for a 5 year old.
 
2013-05-01 11:49:01 AM
Future responsible gun owner.
 
2013-05-01 11:49:04 AM
This is just a necessary sacrifice of responsible gun ownership. To NOT allow the five year old to have a gun would have been a GRAVE violation of the 2nd amendment.
 
2013-05-01 11:49:23 AM
Yet another gun-accident article on Fark.... *yawn*
 
2013-05-01 11:49:44 AM
It is absolutely disgusting the way gun makers manufacture weapons of destruction to children,  Absolutely shameful.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:22 AM
Once I doused my house in gasoline and gave a 5 year old a pack of matches to play with. Long story short, just one of those crazy accidents.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:26 AM
I really hate moron parents.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:34 AM

Satanic_Hamster: James!: How farked would that be if the parents did have the toddler stuffed and kept it in the house? Like make the older kid apologize to his stuffed dead sister every day.

Can you even do that?  I mean, get a person stuffed or have their head mounted?


I think it's legal.  You can burn it, you can bury it, you can shoot it up into space.  May as well be able to stuff it.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:39 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: A .22? What the hell were these parents thinking?


I dunno. You should ask  dirtybopper. He's actually defending this act.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:49 AM

James!: So the solution to the gun problem is better mental health services in the US but giving a gun to a kinder-gardener is A-OK?


I blame video games.  If not for violent, hyper-realistic video games like Big Bird Teaches Typing, this kid never would have committed this atrocious but totally unforeseeable act.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:50 AM

Satanic_Hamster: James!: How farked would that be if the parents did have the toddler stuffed and kept it in the house? Like make the older kid apologize to his stuffed dead sister every day.

Can you even do that?  I mean, get a person stuffed or have their head mounted?


Can't think of any reason you couldn't. You can get your miscarried child mounted in a "memory box", so I can imagine having a kid taxidermied would be possible.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:53 AM
Parent(s) should be charged with manslaughter.
 
2013-05-01 11:50:55 AM

kbronsito: Marcus Aurelius: bdub77: The county coroner has ruled the death 'just one of those crazy accidents.'

No. Some adult gave a loaded gun to a 5-yr old. This isn't a crazy accident. This is parental negligence.

Also WHO GIVES A F*CKING FIREARM TO A 5 YEAR OLD?

Congratulations, dumbass. Now you've ruined at least four lives.

Or brings a loaded gun into the house.  Or leaves a gun leaning in a corner somewhere.

or neglect to teach a gun owner that you never ever, ever point a gun at another human even if you think it is unloaded (unless your intent is to actually shoot that person)


I'm not certain that can be taught to every five year old.  What you do instead is keep your firearms in a gun safe, and keep the combination a closely guarded secret.
 
2013-05-01 11:51:01 AM

Slaves2Darkness: No, even the NRA would not say that this was A-OK. It's a farking tragedy of stupid proportions. I just hope they sterilize the parents and place the kid with someone who has more farking sense.


Really?  They've consistently opposed all forms of storage laws, they've come out against criminal charges for firearms "accidents" of this nature in the past.
 
2013-05-01 11:51:02 AM

jehovahs witness protection: You should see the bill from the taxidermist.


You're attempts to divert and evade from this tragedy is noted.  Sad and idiotic as they are.
 
2013-05-01 11:51:07 AM
These parents get to keep both their firearms and children.  That's part of a healthy society, right?
 
2013-05-01 11:51:13 AM
The 5 year-old had a clean record.  Background checks wouldn't have prevented this.
 
2013-05-01 11:51:29 AM

hardinparamedic: AverageAmericanGuy: A .22? What the hell were these parents thinking?

I dunno. You should ask  dirtybopper. He's actually defending this act.


Da fuq, dittybopper?
 
2013-05-01 11:51:36 AM
Wow. I was about that age the first time I was taken shooting, but I didn't own my own until I was 12. Farking stupid people making Darwin proud.
 
2013-05-01 11:51:58 AM
No offense, but perhaps five years old is a little too young to try to teach a child to do anything with a firearm but stay away from them and call an adult if they see one.

Five is a very typical age to start showing a kid how to shoot.  I probably started around that age.  I could see buying them their own small-sized gun too, if you had the money.

What I think is crazy is leaving the gun around for them to play with.  Loaded or unloaded, doesn't matter, a kid that age should never touch a gun without a parent standing right there (with their hand on the gun too, or maybe inches away from it ready to keep it from pointing at anyone).
 
2013-05-01 11:52:05 AM
Well, it's not like you could give the kid hand grenades. Their hands are too small.
 
2013-05-01 11:52:05 AM

FlashHarry: this wouldn't have happened if the two-year-old had been carrying.


There's no defense against a My First Assault Rifle.

Would add to the WTF sentiment here.

My dad was a bit of a gun nut and he wouldn't let me near one until I was 11.

/ got a Benjamin pellet gun for X-mas...
 
2013-05-01 11:52:10 AM
my five year old will learn to shoot eventually.

he's still mastering tooth brushing, how to tie his own shoes, wiping his ass after a dump, choosing appropriate clothes to go outside.

I put gun safety a little bit later, myself.
 
2013-05-01 11:52:28 AM
As someone who has experienced this kind of thing (one cousin killed his brother in a hunting accident) I will say I don't find anything humorous in this story, nor any of the comments.

I grew up in a family where both sides were committed hunters.  And in this culture it was very common to see children hunting.  We did it, my brother and I hunted from an early age.

I gave it up decades ago, and I would never even think of giving my daughter a loaded weapon.  Before she died I asked my mom how they did it, and she said it was just a different time.

And all these Ted Nuget-type hunting shows say "take a kid hunting".  It's one of their major themes.
 
2013-05-01 11:52:30 AM
came for photo of dittybopper as an infant holding a rifle

shoot my frown up side down
 
2013-05-01 11:52:56 AM
We just need armed guards in every home to prevent this sort of thing. Why isn't Obama working with the Republicans on this common sense measure?
 
2013-05-01 11:53:00 AM

Felgraf: This is just a necessary sacrifice of responsible gun ownership. To NOT allow the five year old to have a gun would have been a GRAVE violation of the 2nd amendment.


I'm offended his communist pinko parents gave him such a european sissy gun like a 22

Real American shoot the AR15 and its 30 round clips of .223
 
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