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(Chicago Trib)   The ultimate goal of the $300 million Wrigley Field renovation is to "make the stadium old"   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 46
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2013-05-01 11:05:42 AM  
Old stadium is old.
 
2013-05-01 11:07:12 AM  
So they're putting $300 million in the bank and just leaving the stadium as it is?
 
2013-05-01 11:08:34 AM  
I dunno: I guess this has to be done.

I love roadtripping to Wrigley. I love the old stadium, the small size and the history. The only things to hate about Wrigley:
-all the Chads and Trixies banging away on their cell phones like mad
-200 level seats behind a post
 
2013-05-01 11:23:44 AM  
The Chicago Cubs want to restore Wrigley Field in the style of an era long gone by

Just win a World Series. That was farking ages ago.
 
2013-05-01 11:24:39 AM  
Just move 'em to Rosemont already.
 
2013-05-01 11:26:20 AM  
Funny, I thought the focus needed to be on the Cubs winning some goddamn ballgames. Which is why all we asked for were a new clubhouse and new batting cages. You know, things the players on the field want. Butts are going to be in the seats with or without a Jumbotron.
 
2013-05-01 11:28:44 AM  

lifeboat: Just move 'em to Rosemont already.


We already played in Rosemont when it was called Shea Stadium. Nobody wants to play underneath airport traffic.
 
2013-05-01 11:36:28 AM  
Oh boy, more troughs to pee in for the Men's bathrooms.
 
2013-05-01 11:36:54 AM  
The team's renovation proposal calls for re-creating green terra-cotta canopies, along with the windows and wrought-iron fencing, that graced parts of Wrigley's exterior in the 1930s, according to drawings released to the media Tuesday, one day before Cubs Chairman Tom Ricketts plans to make them public.

How is releasing items to the media not the same as making them public? Do the Cubs not realize the purpose of the media?
 
2013-05-01 11:46:34 AM  
It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

i1089.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-01 11:46:50 AM  

Gosling: lifeboat: Just move 'em to Rosemont already.

We already played in Rosemont when it was called Shea Stadium. Nobody wants to play underneath airport traffic.


Then just move the damn airport to where Wrigley Field is now. Do I have to think of everything around here?
 
2013-05-01 11:55:04 AM  
Yes, they're going to make the field seem more antique by installing a giant LED screen and have a lot more stupid adverts.

Ah, fark it. Do whatever the hell you want. I give up.
 
2013-05-01 12:00:26 PM  

maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]


Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.
 
2013-05-01 12:09:19 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yes, they're going to make the field seem more antique by installing a giant LED screen and have a lot more stupid adverts.

Ah, fark it. Do whatever the hell you want. I give up.


Yes, because old baseball stadiums were pristine gems never sullied with advertising.
www.sports-venue.info
 
2013-05-01 12:11:59 PM  

SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.


I find that hard to believe. Wrigleyville bars are either "douchy" "very douchy" or "mega-ultra douchy".

/John Barleycorn: I'm looking at you.
 
2013-05-01 12:14:53 PM  

Gosling: Funny, I thought the focus needed to be on the Cubs winning some goddamn ballgames. Which is why all we asked for were a new clubhouse and new batting cages. You know, things the players on the field want. Butts are going to be in the seats with or without a Jumbotron.


I noticed the locals were unhappy with the performance of the team.

i291.photobucket.com

/was at Wrigley Monday
 
2013-05-01 12:16:02 PM  

mjohnson71: SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.

I find that hard to believe. Wrigleyville bars are either "douchy" "very douchy" or "mega-ultra douchy".

/John Barleycorn: I'm looking at you.


I liked Sheffield's, I went thanks to a recommendation from some TFers. Not sure if that counts as Wrigleyville though. We also went to the Cubby Bear and that place was douchetastic.
 
2013-05-01 12:20:49 PM  

Treygreen13: mjohnson71: SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.

I find that hard to believe. Wrigleyville bars are either "douchy" "very douchy" or "mega-ultra douchy".

/John Barleycorn: I'm looking at you.

I liked Sheffield's, I went thanks to a recommendation from some TFers. Not sure if that counts as Wrigleyville though. We also went to the Cubby Bear and that place was douchetastic.


They should have decontamination showers outside the Cubby Bear just so you can wash the douche off.
 
2013-05-01 12:22:29 PM  

SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.


And yet some of my friends want to continually go there because they love country music. My friends are awful.
 
2013-05-01 12:25:14 PM  

mjohnson71: Treygreen13: mjohnson71: SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.

I find that hard to believe. Wrigleyville bars are either "douchy" "very douchy" or "mega-ultra douchy".

/John Barleycorn: I'm looking at you.

I liked Sheffield's, I went thanks to a recommendation from some TFers. Not sure if that counts as Wrigleyville though. We also went to the Cubby Bear and that place was douchetastic.

They should have decontamination showers outside the Cubby Bear just so you can wash the douche off.


Cubby Bear is disgusting. It's less douchey than Barleycorn, but more of a trainwreck, and not the fun kind.

Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.
 
2013-05-01 12:30:07 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.


I was just impressed with the area. I didn't go into all the bars (had to actually go to the game) but we don't have anything like that at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. You go to the ballpark, you go inside, and that's it.

Wrigleyville had a sort of crowded smelly charm. So does Wrigley Field. I was surprised people complain about it so much.
 
2013-05-01 12:38:43 PM  

mjohnson71: Yes, because old baseball stadiums were pristine gems never sullied with advertising.


Wrigley Field wasn't.

t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-01 12:39:38 PM  

Huck Chaser: So they're putting $300 million in the bank and just leaving the stadium as it is?


More like bribe the people putting money in, hire expensive friends to do inspections and consulting work, do about $20 million in updates and painting, and pocket the rest as project management and consulting fees.

Okay, that bribery part might not be necessary, but the rest was the standard private equity firm approach.
 
2013-05-01 12:39:52 PM  

Treygreen13: Car_Ramrod: Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.

I was just impressed with the area. I didn't go into all the bars (had to actually go to the game) but we don't have anything like that at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. You go to the ballpark, you go inside, and that's it.

Wrigleyville had a sort of crowded smelly charm. So does Wrigley Field. I was surprised people complain about it so much.


Yea, I was just at the game on Monday and might go again tonight ($6 tickets? Done), and we were discussing how nice the neighborhood is in comparison to just being surrounded by parking lot like at Comiskey or Milwaukee (though I will say tailgating there is a metric ton of fun, but you need to rely on shuttles or have designated drivers). But I think a lot of it is the old adage "familiarity breeds contempt". I love Wrigleyville, and most of my time in Chicago has been spent living there, but passing by the same drunk assholes night after night, especially during the summer with the suburban crowd coming in more, gets tiring and frustrating. But if you go to the right places with the right people, it can be a ton of fun.

Kinda of back on topic: what intrigues me about these plans is how Clark/Addison is going to look right outside the stadium. It'll look nice and clean and probably is for the best, but will lose some of its neighborhood charm. Luckily that area has it in spades, so ultimately I think people will be ok with it.
 
2013-05-01 12:45:22 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Treygreen13: Car_Ramrod: Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.

I was just impressed with the area. I didn't go into all the bars (had to actually go to the game) but we don't have anything like that at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. You go to the ballpark, you go inside, and that's it.

Wrigleyville had a sort of crowded smelly charm. So does Wrigley Field. I was surprised people complain about it so much.

Yea, I was just at the game on Monday and might go again tonight ($6 tickets? Done), and we were discussing how nice the neighborhood is in comparison to just being surrounded by parking lot like at Comiskey or Milwaukee (though I will say tailgating there is a metric ton of fun, but you need to rely on shuttles or have designated drivers). But I think a lot of it is the old adage "familiarity breeds contempt". I love Wrigleyville, and most of my time in Chicago has been spent living there, but passing by the same drunk assholes night after night, especially during the summer with the suburban crowd coming in more, gets tiring and frustrating. But if you go to the right places with the right people, it can be a ton of fun.

Kinda of back on topic: what intrigues me about these plans is how Clark/Addison is going to look right outside the stadium. It'll look nice and clean and probably is for the best, but will lose some of its neighborhood charm. Luckily that area has it in spades, so ultimately I think people will be ok with it.


I'm not looking forward to the area being "Disneyfied". A few rough edges and some dirt is part of the area's charm in my book.
 
2013-05-01 12:49:22 PM  

Car_Ramrod: mjohnson71: Treygreen13: mjohnson71: SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.

I find that hard to believe. Wrigleyville bars are either "douchy" "very douchy" or "mega-ultra douchy".

/John Barleycorn: I'm looking at you.

I liked Sheffield's, I went thanks to a recommendation from some TFers. Not sure if that counts as Wrigleyville though. We also went to the Cubby Bear and that place was douchetastic.

They should have decontamination showers outside the Cubby Bear just so you can wash the douche off.

Cubby Bear is disgusting. It's less douchey than Barleycorn, but more of a trainwreck, and not the fun kind.

Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.


Yeah, Sheffield's I like, but it's a little bit further away than the standard Clark St bars. It can get obnoxiously crowded before a day game though.

I also enjoy the Gingerman and Blarney Stone, but those usually don't attract that many people, plus Gingerman is not in any way a sports bar.

Basically 95% of bars on Clark or Sheffield within a half mile of Wrigley are terrible, but there are a few hidden gems.

I'm a Sox fan but I go to plenty of Cubs games so it's important for me to be able to find a good neighborhood spot and avoid the bro bars where everyone wants to fight. Note - I don't go around and talk shiat about the Cubs nor wear any Sox gear when I go up there, but these idiots will fight you if you try to scoot past them to get to the bathroom in a shoulder-to-shoulder button-down infested bar.
 
2013-05-01 01:06:35 PM  

mjohnson71: Car_Ramrod: Kinda of back on topic: what intrigues me about these plans is how Clark/Addison is going to look right outside the stadium. It'll look nice and clean and probably is for the best, but will lose some of its neighborhood charm. Luckily that area has it in spades, so ultimately I think people will be ok with it.

I'm not looking forward to the area being "Disneyfied". A few rough edges and some dirt is part of the area's charm in my book.


Yea. Specifically this:

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It'll be easier on the eyes, but looks kind of soul-less. And are they tearing down the McDonald's? WHERE WILL I GET ILL ADVISED BIG MACS AT 2 AM?!
 
2013-05-01 01:07:43 PM  

Car_Ramrod: It'll be easier on the eyes, but looks kind of soul-less. And are they tearing down the McDonald's? WHERE WILL I GET ILL ADVISED BIG MACS AT 2 AM?!


On the floor in the red line. Can't get more ill-advised than that.
 
2013-05-01 01:09:02 PM  

SlagginOff: Car_Ramrod: mjohnson71: Treygreen13: mjohnson71: SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.

I find that hard to believe. Wrigleyville bars are either "douchy" "very douchy" or "mega-ultra douchy".

/John Barleycorn: I'm looking at you.

I liked Sheffield's, I went thanks to a recommendation from some TFers. Not sure if that counts as Wrigleyville though. We also went to the Cubby Bear and that place was douchetastic.

They should have decontamination showers outside the Cubby Bear just so you can wash the douche off.

Cubby Bear is disgusting. It's less douchey than Barleycorn, but more of a trainwreck, and not the fun kind.

Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.

Yeah, Sheffield's I like, but it's a little bit further away than the standard Clark St bars. It can get obnoxiously crowded before a day game though.

I also enjoy the Gingerman and Blarney Stone, but those usually don't attract that many people, plus Gingerman is not in any way a sports bar.

Basically 95% of bars on Clark or Sheffield within a half mile of Wrigley are terrible, but there are a few hidden gems.

I'm a Sox fan but I go to plenty of Cubs games so it's important for me to be able to find a good neighborhood spot and avoid the bro bars where everyone wants to fight. Note - I don't go around and talk shiat about the Cubs nor wear any Sox gear when I go up there, but these idiots will fight you if you try to scoot past them to get to the bathroom in a shoulder-to-shoulder button-down infested bar.


Yak-zie's FTW?

John Barleycorn
 
2013-05-01 01:09:08 PM  

SlagginOff: maxx2112: It's Country Night . . . so Roll Tide.

No, really . . . that's what the sign says.

[i1089.photobucket.com image 605x407]

Houndstooth may be one of the top 5 worst bars in the cesspool of bars known as Wrigleyville. The douche factor is about 90% more than the other bars, which were already nearing the point of saturation.



I was so surprised by the "Roll Tide" on the Wrigley marqueethat I didn't notice the name of the bar . . .

Well, never mind  then . . .

/ roll tide
 
2013-05-01 01:18:29 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yes, they're going to make the field seem more antique by installing a giant LED screen and have a lot more stupid adverts.

Ah, fark it. Do whatever the hell you want. I give up.


Plastering more adverts all over the stadium would make it more antique. Those old stadiums looked like Nascar autos.
 
2013-05-01 01:22:33 PM  

Lando Lincoln: mjohnson71: Yes, because old baseball stadiums were pristine gems never sullied with advertising.

Wrigley Field wasn't.

[t2.gstatic.com image 468x432]


WRIGLEY Field.
 
2013-05-01 01:31:59 PM  

Car_Ramrod: mjohnson71: Car_Ramrod: Kinda of back on topic: what intrigues me about these plans is how Clark/Addison is going to look right outside the stadium. It'll look nice and clean and probably is for the best, but will lose some of its neighborhood charm. Luckily that area has it in spades, so ultimately I think people will be ok with it.

I'm not looking forward to the area being "Disneyfied". A few rough edges and some dirt is part of the area's charm in my book.

Yea. Specifically this:

[img600.imageshack.us image 640x390]

It'll be easier on the eyes, but looks kind of soul-less. And are they tearing down the McDonald's? WHERE WILL I GET ILL ADVISED BIG MACS AT 2 AM?!


That's a shame.

I think my last Wrigley heavy drinking + the McDonalds across the street combo involved two Quarter Pounders with cheese and a large orange drink.
 
2013-05-01 01:40:00 PM  
How much does it cost to just drop a nuclear bomb on Wrigley Field?  It sure can't cost more that $300 million.
 
2013-05-01 01:49:54 PM  

Moopy Mac: Lando Lincoln: mjohnson71: Yes, because old baseball stadiums were pristine gems never sullied with advertising.

Wrigley Field wasn't.

[t2.gstatic.com image 468x432]

WRIGLEY Field.


Yes, Wrigley Field. Named after William Wrigley, the owner of the Cubs and the ball park.

At least the guy's name wasn't Minute Maid.
 
2013-05-01 01:50:57 PM  

Rann Xerox: How much does it cost to just drop a nuclear bomb on Wrigley Field?  It sure can't cost more that $300 million.


People still wouldn't like the Sox.
 
2013-05-01 01:51:27 PM  

Moopy Mac: Lando Lincoln: mjohnson71: Yes, because old baseball stadiums were pristine gems never sullied with advertising.

Wrigley Field wasn't.

[t2.gstatic.com image 468x432]

WRIGLEY Field.


Wrigley (the man, not the company) was the owner of the team. I don't really consider this advertising since it's not paid for by the gum company.
 
2013-05-01 01:52:22 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Sheffield's I wouldn't count as Wrigleyville, but I do like it there. In terms of Wrigleyville bars, my favorite is Vines because they have a nice beer garden with enough tables to actually sit outside.


I don't even consider Redmonds a Wrigleyville bar.

And I am not sure if I consider Blarney Stone a bar.

Treygreen13: I was just impressed with the area. I didn't go into all the bars (had to actually go to the game) but we don't have anything like that at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. You go to the ballpark, you go inside, and that's it.


For me, I never really had issues with the game day crowds.  You want to live next to a major tourist attraction, that is the price you pay.  It was the "regulars" who came out on Th-Sa from the 'burbs or around there that were too douchey.
 
2013-05-01 01:56:18 PM  

SlagginOff: Basically 95% of bars on Clark or Sheffield within a half mile of Wrigley are terrible, but there are a few hidden gems.


Solution: get out of Wrigleyville. You don't even have to go very far. For example,  this place is nice and only a 15 minute walk from the stadium.
 
2013-05-01 02:03:37 PM  

bacongood: For me, I never really had issues with the game day crowds.  You want to live next to a major tourist attraction, that is the price you pay.  It was the "regulars" who came out on Th-Sa from the 'burbs or around there that were too douchey.


I never understood the Wrigleyville residents who biatch about parking and traffic issues.
 
2013-05-01 02:32:08 PM  

odinsposse: SlagginOff: Basically 95% of bars on Clark or Sheffield within a half mile of Wrigley are terrible, but there are a few hidden gems.

Solution: get out of Wrigleyville. You don't even have to go very far. For example,  this place is nice and only a 15 minute walk from the stadium.


Oh I agree completely. Guthrie's is also a good little spot with board games, a little off the beaten path.
 
2013-05-01 03:12:25 PM  
Well, it already smells like old hobos and stale beer so they're nearly done.
 
2013-05-01 05:27:16 PM  

Lando Lincoln: mjohnson71: Yes, because old baseball stadiums were pristine gems never sullied with advertising.

Wrigley Field wasn't.

[t2.gstatic.com image 468x432]


It didn't have lights either.
 
2013-05-01 08:05:21 PM  
If you're going to spend 300 million, you might as well just tear the freaking thing down and start over.
 
2013-05-02 01:40:31 AM  
The stale urine and beer smell in the concourse is key to authenticity.
 
2013-05-02 01:11:37 PM  

jake3988: If you're going to spend 300 million, you might as well just tear the freaking thing down and start over.


300 million would not buy a new ballpark. Not even close.
 
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