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(Phys Org2)   Google Plus actually seeing growth. In meh   (phys.org) divider line 22
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2013-05-01 09:06:17 AM
I find that Google Plus tends to attract techies instead of everyone and their mom, so I think the demographics of Google Plus is a bit different. Discussions on G+ are a bit more technical than on, say, Facebook.
 
2013-05-01 09:10:15 AM
I find this hard to believe.
 
2013-05-01 09:24:04 AM
Similar to how EA's Origin platform counts its users?  IE prodding and then forcing users of other products to use it by merging them together into one big cesspoll of suck?
 
2013-05-01 09:34:40 AM

RexTalionis: I find that Google Plus tends to attract techies instead of everyone and their mom, so I think the demographics of Google Plus is a bit different. Discussions on G+ are a bit more technical than on, say, Facebook.


Which, oddly, should make me want to use it. I'm curious, do the techie discussions tend to devolve like techie Fark threads where people just scream at one another over their preference of manufacturer/vendor?

/Had a G+ account
//Right after it launched
///Absolute ghost town
 
2013-05-01 09:35:18 AM
My google+ photo is a stock photo of a tree so it would quit biatching at me. I'm sure I'm counted as  "user" too.
 
2013-05-01 09:45:45 AM

MightyPez: RexTalionis: I find that Google Plus tends to attract techies instead of everyone and their mom, so I think the demographics of Google Plus is a bit different. Discussions on G+ are a bit more technical than on, say, Facebook.

Which, oddly, should make me want to use it. I'm curious, do the techie discussions tend to devolve like techie Fark threads where people just scream at one another over their preference of manufacturer/vendor?

/Had a G+ account
//Right after it launched
///Absolute ghost town


Most people active on G+ are social outcasts with few friends and nothing really to offer society.  The rest are Google employees.
 
2013-05-01 10:00:16 AM
I'd wager that the recent activity on G+ has more to do with Ingress than anything else.  It's a fun game but you need a G+ account to play.
 
2013-05-01 10:14:42 AM

Nemo's Brother: Most people active on G+ are social outcasts with few friends and nothing really to offer society.  The rest are Google employees.



I'm excited because recently more than half of the posts in my feed have been from people other than me.
 
2013-05-01 10:31:11 AM

RexTalionis: I find that Google Plus tends to attract techies instead of everyone and their mom, so I think the demographics of Google Plus is a bit different. Discussions on G+ are a bit more technical than on, say, Facebook.


+1. I go to G+ to follow Linus Torvalds and a couple of other guys whose streams generate interesting tech discussions.
 
2013-05-01 10:36:10 AM
I accidentally clicked the little +1 thingie on a page. Now I am a Google+ user.

Then I went to Google+ to remove the +1.  Now I am an active Google+ user.

BTW, if I'm in Firefox and I scroll to the bottom, it'll warp me back to the top of the page, so I can never see the controls on the bottom.  WTF?  No I'm not switching to Chrome just so I can read the bottom few lines on Google+, Google, don't be ridiculous.
 
2013-05-01 10:40:27 AM

Nemo's Brother: MightyPez: RexTalionis: I find that Google Plus tends to attract techies instead of everyone and their mom, so I think the demographics of Google Plus is a bit different. Discussions on G+ are a bit more technical than on, say, Facebook.

Which, oddly, should make me want to use it. I'm curious, do the techie discussions tend to devolve like techie Fark threads where people just scream at one another over their preference of manufacturer/vendor?

/Had a G+ account
//Right after it launched
///Absolute ghost town

Most people active on G+ are social outcasts with few friends and nothing really to offer society.  The rest are Google employees.



Yes, but not that many Farkers use google plus.
 
2013-05-01 10:50:30 AM
I've been told that Google hangouts are great places for virtual meetings. That said, I take any such pronouncements from Google with a grain of salt:

-If you ever signed up for Google to attend a hangout meeting, you are a Google+ user
-If you have an Android phone and have downloaded any apps from Google Play, you are a Google+ user
-If you used to have a Google home page, you are a Google+ user
-If you used Google Buzz in the past, you are a Google+ user
-If you are a Google Reader* (R.I.P) user, you are a Google+ user
-If you ever clicked the + sign anywhere, you are a Google+ user
-If a random stranger added you to a circle, you are a Google+ user
etc,etc

So I am a Google+ "user" but  I never post or share anything. When I used Google Reader, I would 'plus' stuff which I guess pushed to Google+, but I never did anything beyond that. Whenever anyone adds me to their "Circles" I check them out. I've blocked a few that seemed creepy or marketing bots.

On my Facebook account, everyone connected to me is a relative, a friend IRL, or a colleague. They can use any email account (my SIL used her AOL account) to sign up.

There is no way that we're all flocking to Google+ and it's being competitive with Facebook. I believe that it might be actively used in the techie community and the library & academic community (where I am), due to hangouts and such, but no way are average people using it. Normal people are using Facebook, Instagram, and Pinterest, and weirdos like us are using Fark, reddit, etc. For example, my mom has a Google account to access her Android phone, but she doesn't use any it for anything else (ditto my uncle, and a few cousins). She didn't even understand where my profile picture came from automatically when corresponding with me through texting and email for goodness' sake!

Facebook just isn't anywhere near dead yet and regular average people use the shiat out of it.

/anyway, my 2cents
 
2013-05-01 10:52:11 AM
One other thing that Google+ irritated me with when if first came out.  I create a new email address every time I sign up for something (they all get forwarded into one of two mailboxes), plus I have a GMail account for throwaway usage, and a work email.  Google+ utterly failed to cope with this when it first came out.  All of the "people" it suggested for my circles were mostly my other email aliases.

And although I'm an extreme case, I don't think it's uncommon for people to have more than one email address.  I don't know if they got around to fixing it, but that was the thing that killed whatever remote chance I had of adpoting it.
 
2013-05-01 10:56:58 AM
And, in case anyone asks, the reason this isn't an issue for other sites (after all, Facebook doesn't know I have 200+ email addresses either) is that other sites don't use email address as a unique one-to-one identifier like Google+ does.
 
2013-05-01 11:12:54 AM

johnnieconnie: -If you have an Android phone and have downloaded any apps from Google Play, you are a Google+ user


That's not true. You only need Google+ to leave a review on Google Play, but you don't need Google+ to download from Google Play.

johnnieconnie: -If you used to have a Google home page, you are a Google+ user


That's not true, either. Some people just have a default google home page or a iGoogle homepage, neither of which requires Google+.

johnnieconnie: -If you used Google Buzz in the past, you are a Google+ user


I'm fairly sure that's false. I had Google Buzz, but I had to set up a new Google+ account (fairly recently, long after Buzz has been dismantled).

johnnieconnie: -If you are a Google Reader* (R.I.P) user, you are a Google+ user


Fairly sure that's false, too, since I also had Google Reader, but I had to set up a new Google+ account.

johnnieconnie: -If you ever clicked the + sign anywhere, you are a Google+ user


If you aren't a Google+ user and you click on the + sign, it will bring up a page that asks you if you want to set up a Google+ account. If you cancel out of this, you aren't a Google+ user.

johnnieconnie: If a random stranger added you to a circle, you are a Google+ user


I don't think that works, either. You can add someone to your circle, but it doesn't convert their account to a Google+ user account. I just added one of my non Google+ gmail accounts to my circles, and yet, my non G+ gmail account still doesn't have a G+ account attached to it.
 
2013-05-01 11:38:50 AM

brigid_fitch: I'd wager that the recent activity on G+ has more to do with Ingress than anything else.  It's a fun game but you need a G+ account to play.


No, you don't have to have account to play. Level 8, enlightened.
 
2013-05-01 11:54:23 AM
most recent post date by any of my friends on google+:

December 9, 2011 "Soooo.... Is google plus still a thing??"

/i did participate in a google hangout video chat recently, so yes?
 
2013-05-01 11:54:40 AM

RexTalionis: johnnieconnie: -If you have an Android phone and have downloaded any apps from Google Play, you are a Google+ user

That's not true. You only need Google+ to leave a review on Google Play, but you don't need Google+ to download from Google Play.

johnnieconnie: -If you used to have a Google home page, you are a Google+ user

That's not true, either. Some people just have a default google home page or a iGoogle homepage, neither of which requires Google+.

johnnieconnie: -If you used Google Buzz in the past, you are a Google+ user

I'm fairly sure that's false. I had Google Buzz, but I had to set up a new Google+ account (fairly recently, long after Buzz has been dismantled).

johnnieconnie: -If you are a Google Reader* (R.I.P) user, you are a Google+ user

Fairly sure that's false, too, since I also had Google Reader, but I had to set up a new Google+ account.

johnnieconnie: -If you ever clicked the + sign anywhere, you are a Google+ user

If you aren't a Google+ user and you click on the + sign, it will bring up a page that asks you if you want to set up a Google+ account. If you cancel out of this, you aren't a Google+ user.

johnnieconnie: If a random stranger added you to a circle, you are a Google+ user

I don't think that works, either. You can add someone to your circle, but it doesn't convert their account to a Google+ user account. I just added one of my non Google+ gmail accounts to my circles, and yet, my non G+ gmail account still doesn't have a G+ account attached to it.


You are probably right on all of this but I'm not saying they, are in fact, Google+ users, I'm saying that Google is counting them as Google+ users. And also you acknowledge that someone is technically a Google+ user if they leave a review in the Play Market, but does that automatically mean they are really using Google+? I think Google is just 'counting' all these types as active users, when in fact they just are defacto users of various services. It seems like this is all to pad the numbers for Google+ or just force every social interaction into Google+. Related article here.

Anyway, I guess my position wasn't very clear in my Boobies. And I'm pretty cynical and bitter over the pending Reader shutdown, so probably my feelings are cluttering up this issue, as well. But like I said, my 2cents.
 
2013-05-01 12:09:16 PM

johnnieconnie: You are probably right on all of this but I'm not saying they, are in fact, Google+ users, I'm saying that Google is counting them as Google+ users.


There's no evidence that merely doing any of these things would cause Google to count you as a Google+ user. If it did, then Google+ would have a billion users.

johnnieconnie: And also you acknowledge that someone is technically a Google+ user if they leave a review in the Play Market,


You appear to be misconstruing what I said. You MUST have an account to leave a review on Google Play. If you do not have a Google+ account, you simply can't leave a review. Google doesn't count simply leaving a review on Google Play as a Google+ user because those people who leave reviews already have Google+ accounts in the first place.
 
2013-05-01 12:09:26 PM
I use it for the simple reason it's a nice place to get a lot of info gathered at once, without frankly having to deal with the shiatton of people on Facebook I don't want to talk to.  So I follow a bunch of tech sites, NASA, a few sports teams and stuff like that and I find it to be pretty handy.

It's basically a flashy news aggregator you can customize, without having ex-girlfriends, people you haven't talked to since highschool 20 years ago, and former co-workers all bothering you.
 
2013-05-01 12:38:24 PM
I'm on G+.  I use it because it's not Facebook.  I hate Facebook.  In the community I am a part of it's fine, and I don't have to deal with the mountains of bullshiat Facebook is riddled with.

Yet, anyway.
 
2013-05-02 09:47:00 AM

funkonomics: brigid_fitch: I'd wager that the recent activity on G+ has more to do with Ingress than anything else.  It's a fun game but you need a G+ account to play.

No, you don't have to have account to play. Level 8, enlightened.


Oh!  I thought you did.  I already had a G+ account I never used so when all the Ingress stuff started showing up on there, I thought they were connected.  Now I use my G+ account for the groups that "meet" on there.  Since there are so many (one group has about 200 members), perhaps there still is some correlation to Ingress & G+.

/Level 4, Resistance.  Only been playing for 2 weeks.
 
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