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2013-05-01 08:14:00 AM
Post-draft NFL rankings are still stupid, but it's always funny to see the Jets in last place.
 
2013-05-01 08:19:34 AM
/it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2013-05-01 08:32:13 AM
That list fails in so many different ways.
 
2013-05-01 08:53:30 AM
I like how the post-draft power rankings' biggest movers, Arizona and Cleveland, were the biggest movers because Arizona added Carson Palmer (not a draft pick) and because Cleveland only picked up two guys in the first five rounds of the draft.  In other words, the draft had almost no effect on the power rankings at all.
 
2013-05-01 09:09:40 AM
It's been a tough offseason with cap problems, but the Redskins managed to keep their division title team intact. (Graziano)

That "intact" team brings back Brian Orakpo, Adam Carriker and Fred Davis, none of whom were on the field during any of that seven-game run to end the season. I think it's safer to say that the Redskins have improved their on-field team just by getting those guys healthy. I don't have a problem being ranked anywhere in that second tier from about 7th to 12th, but just focusing on the lack of flashy off-season acquisitions undersells them. RG3's knee of course is the bigger issue.
 
2013-05-01 10:04:34 AM
Bengals #9

i.qkme.me
 
2013-05-01 10:05:20 AM
The Jets have may have a lot of drama going on, but will they really be worse on the field than the Chiefs, Browns, and Jags?
 
2013-05-01 10:08:27 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Niners should be 1.

/Boooo!
//Grafs
 
2013-05-01 10:08:28 AM
The Cowboys are too damn high.
 
2013-05-01 10:09:16 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: Post-draft NFL rankings are still stupid, but it's always funny to see the Jets in last place.


It's because they released Tim Tebow.  Instant downgrade at QB, man.

/ I made it through typing that with a straight face
 
2013-05-01 10:10:21 AM
As a Bills fan, I'm a masochist, but I generally feel that I have a good handle on reality.  Optimism has been beaten out of me the last 25 years or so.  That being said, I don't see the steaming bucket of fail that people are claiming the Buffalo draft was.  They traded down, got a quarterback, and addressed some other needs.  Could they have gotten Manuel in the second?  Maybe.  But I imagine they were trying to trade back further, but couldn't find a deal, and they really need a QB.  Was it an all time great draft?  No, but I also think it wasn't terrible.

/At least we don't have Tebow
//Yet.
///But we have Vince Young.
 
2013-05-01 10:11:22 AM

ArkPanda: The Jets have may have a lot of drama going on, but will they really be worse on the field than the Chiefs, Browns, and Jags?


Lets see:

Cons-
Lost their best defensive player.
Still have Sanchez at QB.
Rex Ryan is the coach.

Pros-
Got rid of Tebow


/Yeah, Jets are approaching "dumpster fire" levels of bad
 
2013-05-01 10:11:36 AM
Not that I think having power rankings now is in any way valid, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chefs take a big step up this year. They already had a bunch of talent, got the #1 pick, and upgraded their QB situation to "slightly below average" from "dumpster fire." That last one by itself can make a huge difference.
 
2013-05-01 10:16:50 AM

RangerTaylor: As a Bills fan, I'm a masochist, but I generally feel that I have a good handle on reality.  Optimism has been beaten out of me the last 25 years or so.  That being said, I don't see the steaming bucket of fail that people are claiming the Buffalo draft was.  They traded down, got a quarterback, and addressed some other needs.  Could they have gotten Manuel in the second?  Maybe.  But I imagine they were trying to trade back further, but couldn't find a deal, and they really need a QB.  Was it an all time great draft?  No, but I also think it wasn't terrible.

/At least we don't have Tebow
//Yet.
///But we have Vince Young.


Don't you still have T-Jax, too? Between him, VY, and Kolb... man, no wonder they went with a new arm in the draft.

FreakinB: Not that I think having power rankings now is in any way valid, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chefs take a big step up this year. They already had a bunch of talent, got the #1 pick, and upgraded their QB situation to "slightly below average" from "dumpster fire." That last one by itself can make a huge difference.


Me too. The general consensus is that they were really undercoached, and getting rid of several locker room cancers while arguably being the most active team in free agency and locking up several important players for years to come should help in a major way.
 
2013-05-01 10:17:43 AM

FreakinB: I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chefs take a big step up this year.


Yeah, I heard they signed an undrafted free agent QB with a wicked snap count.
wp.auburn.edu
/ All the audibles sound the same though
 
2013-05-01 10:18:08 AM

abhorrent1: Bengals #9

[i.qkme.me image 479x361]


They get a softer schedule this year (even get to start in Chicago!).  They made the playoffs 2 years in a row, and got better, theoretically, in the offseason.

Where would you rank them?
 
2013-05-01 10:20:29 AM

Gonz: The Cowboys are too damn high.


Is that why they play so poorly?
 
2013-05-01 10:21:33 AM

ShadowLAnCeR: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Niners should be 1.

/Boooo!
//Grafs


Once week 2 is over we'll have the real power rankings.  The Seahawks won't be so puffed up about their 1 playoff win in 2 seasons then.
 
2013-05-01 10:23:12 AM

dragonchild: FreakinB: I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chefs take a big step up this year.

Yeah, I heard they signed an undrafted free agent QB with a wicked snap count.
[wp.auburn.edu image 460x276]
/ All the audibles sound the same though


Spider-right Y-Banana, on Bork!

/Bork Bork Bork
 
2013-05-01 10:24:21 AM
The Jets just can't get a fair shake from anyone.  They have a weakness at QB and so they drafted a QB with upside.  That's kind of how it's supposed to work.  Buffalo drafted a QB, Tampa Bay did, Philadelphia did, etc.  But when the Jets do it, the media spin it as "finding a way to bring in more quarterback drama."  Well, what the fark were they supposed to do, keep Tebow and let him battle with Sanchez again?  This is obviously a bad team that needs a roster overhaul, but spending a relatively high draft pick on a QB is kind of a no-brainer.
 
2013-05-01 10:24:48 AM

SlothB77: I like how the post-draft power rankings' biggest movers, Arizona and Cleveland, were the biggest movers because Arizona added Carson Palmer (not a draft pick) and because Cleveland only picked up two guys in the first five rounds of the draft.  In other words, the draft had almost no effect on the power rankings at all.


I know the NFC West bloggers are trying to get out of the Seattle/SF narrative that is easy by pumping up the Rams and Cards.  The Rams, of course, did well last year against both teams, but also had some really confusing letdowns (they lost to the Jets, for Chrissakes), and they have lost a good number of players that contributed to the team.  I do think they will slip a bit this year as Fisher starts to install "his" guys.

As far as the Carson Palmer love, I don't get it.  Yes, he's better than the forty QBs Arizona has tried since Warner, but the guy is not even an average QB now.  He did a good job last year with a crappy Raiders team, but the Cards, I think are even worse than the Raiders.  I just don't see Palmer putting up the same numbers in AZ that he did last year...keep in mind that he had to play without a running game, and to play catchup for most of the last half of the season.
 
2013-05-01 10:31:16 AM

dragonchild: FreakinB: I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chefs take a big step up this year.

Yeah, I heard they signed an undrafted free agent QB with a wicked snap count.
[wp.auburn.edu image 460x276]
/ All the audibles sound the same though


I wish they had drafted Bjoern Werner.  Either them or the Vikings.
 
2013-05-01 10:31:46 AM

ShadowLAnCeR: Grafs


A question of protocol: do these rankings qualify as the start of next season, the end of last season, or are we determined to ignore them entirely, graf-wise?

Also:
top-people.starmedia.com
media-3.web.britannica.com

// grafs
 
2013-05-01 10:32:39 AM
Seattle at 1? Rriiiiiiight.
 
2013-05-01 10:35:49 AM
I have heard someone refer to the Chiefs as the best 2-14 team ever. That is like being the tallest midget or smartest retard.
/Chiefs fan
 
2013-05-01 10:39:33 AM

CheatCommando: Gonz: The Cowboys are too damn high.

Is that why they play so poorly?


No, the two are unrelated. Back when they were the baddest team in the league, the organization had a significant impact on Colombia's economy.
 
2013-05-01 10:42:44 AM
11 Seems about right for the Redskins. I could see them moving 2spots either way depending on the true status of the RGKnee
 
2013-05-01 10:44:41 AM
One season the Seahawks went 12-4. They were predicted to go to the Superbowl the next year. They finished 8-8. Predictions generally aren't that accurate.
 
2013-05-01 10:46:30 AM
Ummm... Go pack? Didn't quite understand our draft other than "dear gawd our running backs keep dropping dead" but in Thompson I trust.
 
2013-05-01 10:48:21 AM
The only correct prediction right now is that one of the 32 NFL teams will win the Super Bowl next season.

Everything else is fluff and bullshiat at this point.
 
2013-05-01 10:51:14 AM

Prank Monkey: I have heard someone refer to the Chiefs as the best 2-14 team ever. That is like being the tallest midget or smartest retard.
/Chiefs fan


I don't see it.  10 of their 14 losses were by double digit points, and they had the league's worst point differential at -214 (same as the 2011 Rams, worse than the 2011 Colts or the 2010 Panthers).  This is not a team that was consistently coming close and falling just short.  They actually broke an NFL single-season record by playing eight games without ever leading in regulation.  They were shut out by the friggin' Raiders.  This is what you expect a 2-14 team to look like.  They did look like they should have been decent on paper (maybe this is what the person you heard was referring to?).

I mean, this was the year when a player shot himself in front of the coach, and some deceased fan had an obituary saying the team's suckitude killed him.  I'd be hard-pressed to think of any team having a more miserable all-around season than that.

Things are looking up for them, but that 2012 season was a paragon of ineptitude.
 
2013-05-01 10:56:32 AM

Super Chronic: Prank Monkey: I have heard someone refer to the Chiefs as the best 2-14 team ever. That is like being the tallest midget or smartest retard.
/Chiefs fan

I don't see it.  10 of their 14 losses were by double digit points, and they had the league's worst point differential at -214 (same as the 2011 Rams, worse than the 2011 Colts or the 2010 Panthers).  This is not a team that was consistently coming close and falling just short.  They actually broke an NFL single-season record by playing eight games without ever leading in regulation.  They were shut out by the friggin' Raiders.  This is what you expect a 2-14 team to look like.  They did look like they should have been decent on paper (maybe this is what the person you heard was referring to?).

I mean, this was the year when a player shot himself in front of the coach, and some deceased fan had an obituary saying the team's suckitude killed him.  I'd be hard-pressed to think of any team having a more miserable all-around season than that.

Things are looking up for them, but that 2012 season was a paragon of ineptitude.


I think it (attempts to) mean how many talented players they possess on both sides of the ball. People like flowers and Charles. Watching a few of their games last year, it looked like their defense kept them competitive for parts of the game but their qb performance was just soooo bad and he really only had one receiver (a great one) to begin with.
 
2013-05-01 10:59:40 AM

RangerTaylor: As a Bills fan, I'm a masochist, but I generally feel that I have a good handle on reality.  Optimism has been beaten out of me the last 25 years or so.  That being said, I don't see the steaming bucket of fail that people are claiming the Buffalo draft was.  They traded down, got a quarterback, and addressed some other needs.  Could they have gotten Manuel in the second?  Maybe.  But I imagine they were trying to trade back further, but couldn't find a deal, and they really need a QB.  Was it an all time great draft?  No, but I also think it wasn't terrible.

/At least we don't have Tebow
//Yet.
///But we have Vince Young.


Cleveland has the same problem.  The knock (they only had 2 picks in the first 5 rounds yada yada yada) is idiotic - they used their number 2 in last years supplimental to take a guy who a) had a damn good year and REALLY came on strong in the latter half of the season and b) was widely considered to be a first round pick IF he had come out this year.

They also basically traded a 5th round to get a 5 year vet with good recieving numbers - in other words a proven commodity.

So other than trading their 4, to get a 3 next year they used two of their picks to basically get another #1 and a proven pro.  They have two starters for SURE from their #2 and #5 - teams would KILL if they could guarantee that kind of result year in and year out.

Was it sexy?  No, but they are a better team for both of those decisions.  None of it means jack shiat until they win some games but to sticks your fingers in your ears and scream "la la la ONLY 2 draft picks!!!" ignores what really happened.
 
2013-05-01 11:00:02 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: SlothB77: I like how the post-draft power rankings' biggest movers, Arizona and Cleveland, were the biggest movers because Arizona added Carson Palmer (not a draft pick) and because Cleveland only picked up two guys in the first five rounds of the draft.  In other words, the draft had almost no effect on the power rankings at all.

I know the NFC West bloggers are trying to get out of the Seattle/SF narrative that is easy by pumping up the Rams and Cards.  The Rams, of course, did well last year against both teams, but also had some really confusing letdowns (they lost to the Jets, for Chrissakes), and they have lost a good number of players that contributed to the team.  I do think they will slip a bit this year as Fisher starts to install "his" guys.

As far as the Carson Palmer love, I don't get it.  Yes, he's better than the forty QBs Arizona has tried since Warner, but the guy is not even an average QB now.  He did a good job last year with a crappy Raiders team, but the Cards, I think are even worse than the Raiders.  I just don't see Palmer putting up the same numbers in AZ that he did last year...keep in mind that he had to play without a running game, and to play catchup for most of the last half of the season.


Cards wr depth is much better than the raiders. That will improve carson just there.
 
2013-05-01 11:01:49 AM
The great thing about being a Bills fan is that we can suck just as hard as the Jets, but for only half the price.


/Only NY team

//Only team in which a fan can't watch a televised game in the majority of the team's state.
 
2013-05-01 11:02:11 AM

Dr Dreidel: ShadowLAnCeR: Grafs

A question of protocol: do these rankings qualify as the start of next season, the end of last season, or are we determined to ignore them entirely, graf-wise?

Also:
[top-people.starmedia.com image 400x334]
[media-3.web.britannica.com image 299x450]

// grafs


I'm pretty sure the first one is Mary Pierce.
 
2013-05-01 11:05:07 AM
Panthers at 19?  Um, no.  The D-line and linebacker corps will be among the best in the league.  Kuechly was a tackling machine with a significantly more pedestrian front 4 last year.  They can still be beat through the air, but you can't always rely on that to win games for you.  Stewart will be back to split carries, hopefully Cam grew up a little in the offseason, and while the o-line is average, it's decent enough.  Another good receiver would have been nice to have, but LaFell showed nice improvement last year.  Unless they get hit by the injury bug again, they should have a nice year.
 
2013-05-01 11:09:36 AM

calm like a bomb: Panthers at 19?  Um, no.  The D-line and linebacker corps will be among the best in the league.  Kuechly was a tackling machine with a significantly more pedestrian front 4 last year.  They can still be beat through the air, but you can't always rely on that to win games for you.  Stewart will be back to split carries, hopefully Cam grew up a little in the offseason, and while the o-line is average, it's decent enough.  Another good receiver would have been nice to have, but LaFell showed nice improvement last year.  Unless they get hit by the injury bug again, they should have a nice year.


Cam just needs a veteran QB coach to help with his maturation. Someone who's not only been to the big game but also knows the organization.

Someone who holds the record for longest pass in a Super Bowl.
 
2013-05-01 11:13:55 AM
The Eagles could certainly be better than 25th just by virtue of not having most of the O line on the DL but the difference between 4 wins and 6 or 8 doesn't seem that important so it hardly matters.
 
2013-05-01 11:15:07 AM

The Bestest: Someone who holds the record for longest pass in a Super Bowl.


I wonder what it would take to lure him back?  Think he'd go for a large bag of Doritos, a case of Bud Light, and a book of coupons for Charlotte restaurants?  Because that's doable.
 
2013-05-01 11:17:09 AM
Please don't put the Seahawks on top, Please don't put the Seahawks on top, Please don't put the Seahawks on top...

clicks link....

NOOOOO

I want us to be down around 10-15 all season until the playoffs and surprise people.

/go hawks
 
2013-05-01 11:17:16 AM

calm like a bomb: Think he'd go for a large bag of Doritos, a case of Bud Light, and a book of coupons for Charlotte restaurants?  Because that's doable.


There's only one restaurant that satisfies him, and that's the down home taste of Bojangles.
 
2013-05-01 11:17:49 AM

litespeed74: I want us to be down around 10-15 all season until the playoffs and surprise people.

/go hawks


That won't happen.  The team is too good.
 
2013-05-01 11:18:49 AM

The Bestest: calm like a bomb: Think he'd go for a large bag of Doritos, a case of Bud Light, and a book of coupons for Charlotte restaurants?  Because that's doable.

There's only one restaurant that satisfies him, and that's the down home taste of Bojangles.


In his defense, Bojangles is awesome.  It was almost at the top of my list of things I missed when I lived in Minnesota.
 
2013-05-01 11:19:31 AM
Rams ahead of the Vikings? The Vikes were a playoff team that got better in the offseason. I'll take Jennings/Patterson over Harvin/Jenkins at WR. The oline is young and together another year. Fresh first round picks should help the DL and secondary. Oh, yeah, i think it is safe to say that Peterson has recovered from the ACL. Hell, with a good QB I'd think they would be a top 10 maybe top 5 team. But ponder drags them down. But not below St. Louis.
 
2013-05-01 11:19:33 AM

Fizpez: Cleveland has the same problem.


Cleveland's problem is that they're in Cleveland. Nothing else really matters.
 
2013-05-01 11:20:18 AM
The 10-6 Vikings, who pick up 3 first round studs, and a great mentor to Cordarelle in Greg Jennings; rated 17th?

Did they forget about Adrian Peterson?

Whatever. I'm used to the vikings being underrated.

/i know, i know "win one then talk".
//stupid saints
 
2013-05-01 11:23:18 AM
One of the things I've never cared for is that whole 'longest pass' bulshiat.

A one-yard dumpoff that a tailback takes 98 yards while eluding 14 tackles is NOT a 98 yard pass. Its a one yard pass.

You measure kicks from the point of the kick to the posts, why not passes from the QB to where it is caught?
 
2013-05-01 11:24:34 AM
What the Jets need is for Mangini to manage player acquisition and let Rex still coach.

BTW can we get an Al Davis or Mike Ditka award for the draft? It could be similar to the Jake.
 
2013-05-01 11:25:56 AM

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: ArkPanda: The Jets have may have a lot of drama going on, but will they really be worse on the field than the Chiefs, Browns, and Jags?

Lets see:

Cons-
Lost their best defensive player.
Still have Sanchez at QB.
Rex Ryan is the coach.


I'm not sure about that last one.

You can think of it this way; Rex Ryan has coached a team that has Mark Sanchez at QB to three winning seasons, and an 8-8 season.  This season he coached a team that was missing two of their best players on defense, and no real offensive weapons outside of Santonio Holmes (who was also injured in week 4), to a 6-10 season.  Not many coaches are able to do that.

Now do I think he's a clown?  Yes. He is a clown, but I would say that he is value neutral to the Jets.  Not a con or a pro.
 
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