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2013-05-01 05:42:40 AM  
Who cares as along as he doesn't choke on the big plays?
 
2013-05-01 06:39:09 AM  
He mentioned his straight relationships in his coming out piece, so I don't understand why you're so surprised now, subby.

"When I was younger I dated women. I even got engaged."
 
2013-05-01 07:00:55 AM  
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Damn. No fair hogging both sides' hotties, Collins.
 
2013-05-01 08:23:46 AM  

Hetfield: He mentioned his straight relationships in his coming out piece, so I don't understand why you're so surprised now, subby.

"When I was younger I dated women. I even got engaged."


Yeah, 'mo here. I'm confused by subby's headline as well. I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder). It's not uncommon for gay men and women to date the opposite sex in earlier periods of their lives.
 
2013-05-01 08:34:25 AM  
Newsflash, subs...a not inconsiderable percentage of gay dudes repress teh ghey until after they've failed a few straight relationships.  Or, if Republican, get caught banging a rentboy or playing footsie in bathroom stalls.
 
2013-05-01 08:40:53 AM  

Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).



We can no longer be friends.
 
2013-05-01 08:42:02 AM  

Hetfield: Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).


We can no longer be friends.


Why? Am I now tainted somehow? I can make amends!
 
2013-05-01 09:01:44 AM  

Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).


I don't believe you. Not because you're gay, but because you're a farker.
 
2013-05-01 09:06:04 AM  

mesmer242: Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).

I don't believe you. Not because you're gay, but because you're a farker.


I dunno, I think the only Farkers who actually manage to have sex with women are the gay ones.
 
2013-05-01 09:07:06 AM  

mesmer242: Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).

I don't believe you. Not because you're gay, but because you're a farker.


That.

Being a farker obviously means you haven't had sex in years, if ever.

I'm also married... but I am repeating myself now.
 
2013-05-01 09:07:23 AM  

Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).


But was it the same girl for eight years?

That's far beyond the statute of limitations for merely being confused and figuring out one's identity.
 
2013-05-01 09:17:26 AM  

Gulper Eel: Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).

But was it the same girl for eight years?

That's far beyond the statute of limitations for merely being confused and figuring out one's identity.


Did he date her for eight years? Because it didn't take me eight years to graduate high school. Hah! I'm so funny.

I didn't read the article, just responding to the strangeness of subby's headline. The reasons for gay men and women maintaining a relationship with the opposite sex vary, I'm sure. But it does happen. That was my only point.

And I dated her for a year and a half.
 
2013-05-01 09:20:26 AM  
Subby seems to have no idea what many closeted people go through.  And especially not people who aren't even possible, usually due to their childhood, to admit it to theirselves.   Hell, I had an ex that came out many years later who when we both discussed it were able to go, "Ohhhhhhhhhhh.... so that's why it wasn't working!"  Still good friends to this day, however many really stupid excuses we made up for each other on why it wasn't working then.  Got a big chuckle out of that part of her explanation, "Well, now I know why he broke up with me!"
 
2013-05-01 09:20:30 AM  

Gulper Eel: Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).

But was it the same girl for eight years?

That's far beyond the statute of limitations for merely being confused and figuring out one's identity.


You sound republican.
 
2013-05-01 09:22:21 AM  
Dated a girl basketball player in college for a semester. She came out the next year. Guess that's why she never wanted to do more than make out. Also my only black gf.

Anyways yeah this is pretty standard for teh gays. She didn't know and we amicably broke up once we figured out she really enjoyed hanging out with her teammates...
 
2013-05-01 09:23:21 AM  

Cythraul: I can make amends!




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2013-05-01 09:30:01 AM  
Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.
 
2013-05-01 09:32:35 AM  

SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.


SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!
 
2013-05-01 09:34:37 AM  
See! See! It's a choice!!!!!
 
2013-05-01 09:37:18 AM  
If I found out that one of my ex girlfriends was gay, my give-a-shiat-ometer would still be indicating close to 0.
 
2013-05-01 09:45:26 AM  

Hetfield: SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.

SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!


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2013-05-01 09:53:22 AM  

ThunderPelvis: Newsflash, subs...a not inconsiderable percentage of gay dudes repress teh ghey until after they've failed a few straight relationships.  Or, if Republican, get caught banging a rentboy or playing footsie in bathroom stalls.


This. It's not uncommon for gays or lesbians to go through with the marriage and even have kids before coming out. If you think coming out to your parents is hard, imagine coming out to your children.
 
2013-05-01 09:57:14 AM  
So he basically used her as the door to his closet for 8 years up until a month before his wedding. She is more forgiving than I would have been if I had been lied to for 8 years.
 
2013-05-01 10:13:22 AM  
Nobody -- not fiancées, not four years' worth of teammates at Stanford, not six teams' worth of NBA teammates -- saw this coming.

Especially not Mike McDonald, a childhood friend and former Stanford teammate. Mike McDonald, a childhood friend and former Stanford teammate


He kept forgetting, Jay is not straight anymore.
 
2013-05-01 10:26:24 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Hetfield: SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.

SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!



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2013-05-01 10:30:06 AM  
Is Gay the same as Bi-Sexual?
He seems Bi
 
2013-05-01 10:32:12 AM  

LewDux: Jim from Saint Paul: Hetfield: SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.

SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!



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2013-05-01 10:34:29 AM  

dkimball: Is Gay the same as Bi-Sexual?
He seems Bi


The guy broke off an 8 year relationship a month before the marriage because he realized he couldn't go through with it and maintain the pretense. And your theory is that he might be bi?
 
2013-05-01 10:54:20 AM  

Theaetetus: LewDux: Jim from Saint Paul: Hetfield: SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.

SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!


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2013-05-01 11:02:33 AM  

Theaetetus: LewDux: Jim from Saint Paul: Hetfield: SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.

SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!


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2013-05-01 11:04:18 AM  

Masterstuff: Theaetetus: LewDux: Jim from Saint Paul: Hetfield: SuperChuck: Great. Can we stop talking about it now? I don't care.

SuperChuck doesn't care -- thread's over, guys!


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Shesh. What I meant was lets get the sports shows back to talking about sports. I wanna see games and highlights not people talking about their feelings
 
2013-05-01 11:05:31 AM  
So, he strung along his ex for 8 years? Sounds selfish and cruel, to me.
 
2013-05-01 11:10:20 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: So, he strung along his ex for 8 years? Sounds selfish and cruel, to me.


It is.  In a less homophobic society, it never would have happened.  Hopefully, the day is near when it won't happen anymore.
 
2013-05-01 11:11:50 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: So he basically used her as the door to his closet for 8 years up until a month before his wedding. She is more forgiving than I would have been if I had been lied to for 8 years.


I think she's been more than gracious. For those in this thread who don't get it - it's not about Collins being gay, it's about him wasting 8 years of someone's life. And if I understood the article correctly, he didn't tell her he was gay when he called off the wedding (a month before it was to take place!).

Nothing will give her back the lost time, but I think he'd better pony up for her to take a five-star luxury vacation to the destination of her choice.
 
2013-05-01 11:12:43 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: So he basically used her as the door to his closet for 8 years up until a month before his wedding. She is more forgiving than I would have been if I had been lied to for 8 years.


Yeah, even if he was confused, eight years in a relationship with a woman?

Perhaps he's bi.
 
2013-05-01 11:14:34 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: So, he strung along his ex for 8 years? Sounds selfish and cruel, to me.


My point. He wasn't 17 and he wasn't in Alabama. Stringing somebody along because you're gay, especially for eight years, is no better than a straight guy stringing a woman along because he wants to keep his options open or some such nonsense. It's a really shiatty thing to do to somebody.
 
2013-05-01 11:14:43 AM  
He dated a white woman. That's unnatural.
 
2013-05-01 11:15:09 AM  

Nogale: Nothing will give her back the lost time,


What lost time?
 
2013-05-01 11:15:46 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Ow! That was my feelings!: So, he strung along his ex for 8 years? Sounds selfish and cruel, to me.

It is.  In a less homophobic society, it never would have happened.  Hopefully, the day is near when it won't happen anymore.


So, it's society's fault he couldn't be honest with her? Yeah, I understand that is the narrative and it is bullshiat. He made that choice, not society.
 
2013-05-01 11:26:51 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Lionel Mandrake: Ow! That was my feelings!: So, he strung along his ex for 8 years? Sounds selfish and cruel, to me.

It is.  In a less homophobic society, it never would have happened.  Hopefully, the day is near when it won't happen anymore.

So, it's society's fault he couldn't be honest with her? Yeah, I understand that is the narrative and it is bullshiat. He made that choice, not society.


I didn't excuse his behavior.  I pointed out some facts.
 
2013-05-01 12:11:38 PM  
The only thing surprising about this is that he actually found a straight WNBA player to date.
 
2013-05-01 12:25:28 PM  

Nogale: Igor Jakovsky: So he basically used her as the door to his closet for 8 years up until a month before his wedding. She is more forgiving than I would have been if I had been lied to for 8 years.

I think she's been more than gracious. For those in this thread who don't get it - it's not about Collins being gay, it's about him wasting 8 years of someone's life. And if I understood the article correctly, he didn't tell her he was gay when he called off the wedding (a month before it was to take place!).

Nothing will give her back the lost time, but I think he'd better pony up for her to take a five-star luxury vacation to the destination of her choice.


Yup he just told her last week. So not only did he string her along for 8 years and call off the wedding, he let her sit in pain for another 4 wondering what the fark happened. The more I think about it that pretty much makes him prerty farking selfish. If you need to keep up appearances, date around or something don't get into a long term relationship with someone. I'm not going to blame society for that.

I had an ex girlfriend give the whole its not you its me talk after 6 months of dating and that chafed. I couldn't imagine getting that talk after 8 years and an engagement.
 
2013-05-01 12:38:03 PM  
Take notes Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes will be ok with you coming out
 
2013-05-01 01:13:19 PM  

RangerTaylor: mesmer242: Cythraul: I dated females when I was in high school. I even had sex with one (shudder).

I don't believe you. Not because you're gay, but because you're a farker.

I dunno, I think the only Farkers who actually manage to have sex with women are the gay ones.


"It's not cheating if he's gay"

This is what some women actually believe
 
2013-05-01 01:13:31 PM  
Nothing beats a bunch of straight guys explaining how they have done things differently if they were gay.

Primitive Screwhead: He kept forgetting, Jay is not straight anymore.


I saw what you did there!
 
2013-05-01 02:15:36 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Yup he just told her last week. So not only did he string her along for 8 years and call off the wedding, he let her sit in pain for another 4 wondering what the fark happened. The more I think about it that pretty much makes him prerty farking selfish. If you need to keep up appearances, date around or something don't get into a long term relationship with someone. I'm not going to blame society for that.


I'm torn, because being gay (from what I know from plenty of gay friends) can fark with your mind when you're in the closet.

But I have to take some of my respect away from him for getting engaged.   Its perfetly normal nowadays for a straight man not to want to get married, ever.   No one looks at an unmarried man in their 30s or 40s and sees that as a clue to them being gay.  I know... I never wanted to get married for 35 years.  Just saw no use to it.

I have a hard time telling others what they should or should not have done... but the engagement doesn't seem right to me.  Many women take that as a major event in their lives.
 
2013-05-01 02:28:14 PM  
Don't blame him for not telling her. Too much risk of her going to the press declaring he's gay before he was ready to make an announcement.
 
2013-05-01 02:58:24 PM  

downstairs: Igor Jakovsky: Yup he just told her last week. So not only did he string her along for 8 years and call off the wedding, he let her sit in pain for another 4 wondering what the fark happened. The more I think about it that pretty much makes him prerty farking selfish. If you need to keep up appearances, date around or something don't get into a long term relationship with someone. I'm not going to blame society for that.

I'm torn, because being gay (from what I know from plenty of gay friends) can fark with your mind when you're in the closet.

But I have to take some of my respect away from him for getting engaged.   Its perfetly normal nowadays for a straight man not to want to get married, ever.   No one looks at an unmarried man in their 30s or 40s and sees that as a clue to them being gay.  I know... I never wanted to get married for 35 years.  Just saw no use to it.

I have a hard time telling others what they should or should not have done... but the engagement doesn't seem right to me.  Many women take that as a major event in their lives.


I disagree on two counts.

1) Plenty of people look at single 35 year olds and assume they're gay, or at least that it's a strong possibility.

2) Some gay people try to fight it for one reason or another. It isn't unusual for them to convince themselves that they aren't really gay or that if they can just get married or whatever, well then everything will work out and they'll be straight. I don't think he can be faulted for being engaged to someone and then realizing that they aren't the person for him.
 
2013-05-01 03:08:02 PM  

Krieghund: downstairs: Igor Jakovsky: Yup he just told her last week. So not only did he string her along for 8 years and call off the wedding, he let her sit in pain for another 4 wondering what the fark happened. The more I think about it that pretty much makes him prerty farking selfish. If you need to keep up appearances, date around or something don't get into a long term relationship with someone. I'm not going to blame society for that.

I'm torn, because being gay (from what I know from plenty of gay friends) can fark with your mind when you're in the closet.

But I have to take some of my respect away from him for getting engaged.   Its perfetly normal nowadays for a straight man not to want to get married, ever.   No one looks at an unmarried man in their 30s or 40s and sees that as a clue to them being gay.  I know... I never wanted to get married for 35 years.  Just saw no use to it.

I have a hard time telling others what they should or should not have done... but the engagement doesn't seem right to me.  Many women take that as a major event in their lives.

I disagree on two counts.

1) Plenty of people look at single 35 year olds and assume they're gay, or at least that it's a strong possibility.

2) Some gay people try to fight it for one reason or another. It isn't unusual for them to convince themselves that they aren't really gay or that if they can just get married or whatever, well then everything will work out and they'll be straight. I don't think he can be faulted for being engaged to someone and then realizing that they aren't the person for him.


1) Hmmmmm... I only have anecdotal evdence (myself)... never happened to me.  At least not to my face.

2) Yes, I can agree there.  While I can't get into his mind, being an athlete probably made that whole thing more difficult.
 
2013-05-01 03:09:28 PM  
Yep, happens all the time, even more so in the past.

When I was in college, the guy that all the girls liked, who was soon to be graduating and going to med school, and who had the perfect fiance, called off the wedding right before graduation, and as soon as he got the diploma he came out. People think that they can go through with doing the whole straight marriage and family thing, but then when push comes to shove they realize they can't do it.
 
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