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2013-05-01 08:27:49 AM
Shia LaBeouf and George Clooney weren't the problem with their respective films and didn't need to apologize. Spielberg was somewhat passive aggressive with his "apology".
 
2013-05-01 09:00:35 AM
Michael Bay apologized for Transformers 2.

Mugato: Shia LaBeouf


It was the character that was the problem. Didn't matter who played it, that character was going to suck. Granted I think Shia is a terrible actor, but you're right that wasn't his fault.
 
2013-05-01 09:25:05 AM
Joel Schumacher give a half hearted apology for Batman and Robin on the commentary track on the DVD. Personally I don't mind the film, I think it works great as a comedy.
 
2013-05-01 09:27:08 AM
If they would have had Cate Blanchett wear a thong bikini the whole movie there would have been few, if any, complaints about Crystal Skull...
 
2013-05-01 09:31:16 AM
I am not sure I accept the apology for Battlefield Earth, I saw eight or nine minutes before I turned it off to prevent projectile vomiting.  I understand Poison Control now lists it as a method to induce vomiting in cases of ingestion poisoning.
 
2013-05-01 09:48:23 AM
List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah
 
2013-05-01 09:49:33 AM
What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.
 
2013-05-01 09:51:01 AM

LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.


I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.
 
2013-05-01 09:51:15 AM
I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.
 
2013-05-01 09:54:36 AM
You said "Shia LaBeouf" twice.
 
2013-05-01 09:55:17 AM

movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah


That movie was a glorious hot mess.
 
2013-05-01 09:58:00 AM

movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah


Supposedly the director's cut is infinitely better. I'll take their word for it.
 
2013-05-01 09:59:18 AM
List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.
 
2013-05-01 09:59:34 AM
The only people that should apologize for Star Wars are the idiots who b*tch about it on the internet but saw it fives in the theater and own the DVD and Blu Ray of it.
 
2013-05-01 10:04:58 AM

TheSelphie: You said "Shia LaBeouf" twice.


I was going to say "he likes Shia LaBeouf", but nobody likes Shia LaBeouf.
 
2013-05-01 10:06:32 AM

SpdrJay: I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.


Prometheus doesn't suck; it's just misunderstood.  It's a meta movie, told from character perspective, where all the players in a GURPS session catastrophically fail all their skill checks.  It's one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of our generation.
 
2013-05-01 10:14:03 AM

gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.


Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar
 
2013-05-01 10:15:46 AM

You Are All Sheep: LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.

I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.


And the politics. Kids just love international space politics and trade disputes.
 
2013-05-01 10:16:29 AM
These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-01 10:18:23 AM

t3knomanser: You Are All Sheep: LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.

I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.

And the politics. Kids just love international space politics and trade disputes.


Daddy! Daddy! The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute!
 
2013-05-01 10:19:05 AM

dragonchild: SpdrJay: I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.

Prometheus doesn't suck; it's just misunderstood.  It's a meta movie, told from character perspective, where all the players in a GURPS session catastrophically fail all their skill checks.  It's one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of our generation.


Oh man, this again. It seemed like people who didn't like Prometheus thought it was both too smart and too dumb. They didn't spell out what was happening in every single scene, and sometimes the characters made bad decisions. fark, the whole mission was a bad decision. I guess some people expect to see perfect humans perform perfectly for two hours whenever they go to the movies.

I can see where they're coming from, because the Alien sequels are for morons. Aliens is a stereotypical 80s slasher flick with great special effects. Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.
 
2013-05-01 10:21:08 AM

moothemagiccow: Aliens is a stereotypical 80s slasher flick with great special effects. Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.


Don't feel too bad if you don't get bites.  Trolling gets better with practice.
 
2013-05-01 10:22:17 AM

gunga galunga: List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.


Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?
 
2013-05-01 10:23:52 AM

gunga galunga: I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.


I'm not sure you understand the difference between A-list and B-list movies.
 
2013-05-01 10:26:29 AM

Wellon Dowd: These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

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Eh, anyone dumb enough to think those two would actually take off their gear deserve to part with their 7 bucks.

/do they at least kiss?
 
2013-05-01 10:27:50 AM

Fano: gunga galunga: List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense. The movie is just farking dull, anyway. All the action is just padding and the acting is straight up bad.
I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.
 
2013-05-01 10:28:36 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar


What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.
 
2013-05-01 10:31:59 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar


Get out.
 
2013-05-01 10:36:13 AM

gunga galunga: What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?


It was pointless gross out humor. I guess it was supposed to be humor.
 
2013-05-01 10:37:28 AM

Mugato: movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah

Supposedly the director's cut is infinitely better. I'll take their word for it.


Not infinitely, but certainly better. I like to look at the Highlander series as sort of the "Let's Make A Deal" of movie franchises. Start with the first and then choose from four doors/paths to complete your Highlander journey. the second film, the third, the TV series (and subsequent 4th film), or the anime. Whichever door you choose will end your Highlander journey accordingly, but each path is very different and doesn't tie into the other in any way shape or form.

And yes, I am aware that I am omitting the animated series and 5th film, for which no amount of apology can make up for.
 
2013-05-01 10:37:29 AM

Wellon Dowd: These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

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Well, the brunette was supposed to be "the good girl", so that made sense. But yeah, the blonde should have been nude.

/Really good movie, btw
 
2013-05-01 10:38:11 AM

gunga galunga: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.


Well, the dinner scene is just a gross out sequence. My Indian fiance has never hinted that any item on the menu was ever eaten. Then again, Hollywood seemed to have the idea that Asians consider chilled monkey brains a delicacy, based on what I'll never know.
 
2013-05-01 10:39:19 AM

Fano: Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


If she STFU and got naked.  Shouldn't be too much to ask for a movie with ritual sacrifice, cultists eating live animals, child slavery, brainwashing and gore.
 
2013-05-01 10:39:23 AM

moothemagiccow: Fano: gunga galunga: List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?

WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense. The movie is just farking dull, anyway. All the action is just padding and the acting is straight up bad.
I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.


Raiders still holds up.
 
2013-05-01 10:40:16 AM

Fano


Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


She wasn't the whole problem; the kid was also annoying.

Short Round = Jar-Jar
 
2013-05-01 10:42:07 AM

movieman_1979: I like to look at the Highlander series as sort of the "Let's Make A Deal" of movie franchises


Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest:  Highlander is nearly unwatchable. The soundtrack is great. Watching Clancy Brown chew scenery is cool. Everything else is just awful. The fight sequences are poorly directed. The plot is an incoherent mess, with a shoe-horned in romance subplot that makes  absolutely no sense.

It's good with the RiffTrax, but it's still too damn long.
 
2013-05-01 10:43:19 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

It was pointless gross out humor. I guess it was supposed to be humor.


An annoying, spoiled nightclub singer being subjected to frightening cuisine? I laughed. I liked how the scene kept on building from the eels to the eyeballs in the soup to the chilled monkey brains. Plus, I thought it was a nice payoff to the earlier scene where she tried to reject the food the starving village presented to her.
 
2013-05-01 10:49:23 AM

Creative Name: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

Get out.


He's not wrong. Sallah was cheerful but not an oaf in raiders, Marcus was not a clown. Watching him lost in the middle east makes me wince.

Also, something I noticed last time I watched last crusade a couple months ago: the spot where they found the tomb of the crusader, cunningly hidden beneath the x in an ancient church converted to a library? Yeah, you can also reach it from a modern Italian sewer 50 feet away.... HOW WAS THIS NEVER FOUND BEFORE?
 
2013-05-01 10:51:39 AM

moothemagiccow: I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.


I'm not one to be nostalgic for films if they suck and Raiders and the Terminator movies are still awesome.
 
2013-05-01 10:51:54 AM
List fails without Allan Smithee.
 
2013-05-01 10:52:10 AM

moothemagiccow: WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense. The movie is just farking dull, anyway. All the action is just padding and the acting is straight up bad.
I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.


I think Raiders is fine, but I think Temple of Doom really only has good ideas marred by bad execution. I guess if you look back on the film and remember the good parts, it's a good film; but watching it a trudge.

I've come to the realisation that James Cameron is essentially a good version of Michael Bay. They both generally make big budget schlockfests yet Cameron generally has a good batting average.

moothemagiccow: dragonchild: SpdrJay: I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.

Prometheus doesn't suck; it's just misunderstood.  It's a meta movie, told from character perspective, where all the players in a GURPS session catastrophically fail all their skill checks.  It's one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of our generation.

Oh man, this again. It seemed like people who didn't like Prometheus thought it was both too smart and too dumb. They didn't spell out what was happening in every single scene, and sometimes the characters made bad decisions. fark, the whole mission was a bad decision. I guess some people expect to see perfect humans perform perfectly for two hours whenever they go to the movies.

I can see where they're coming from, because the Alien sequels are for morons. Aliens is a stereotypical 80s slasher flick with great special effects. Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.


I'm of the opinion that Prometheus is a smart Sci-Fi film for stupid people; though even that description is being rather generous. I don't think it was a bad film -though it comes very close- but it really should've been much better.
 
2013-05-01 10:53:27 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: Short Round = Jar-Jar


Bullshiat, Short Round was occasionally useful.  Jar-Jar ended the Republic by acting on his own in Padme's absence.

I'm actually OK with "annoying" characters in principle.  Sometimes they fail at comic relief; often they aren't realistic.  But they come part and parcel with grand adventure stories, and sometimes they do work.  What grinds my gears is when they become dangerously clumsy liabilities that are tolerated with only expressions of mild annoyance, especially when there's no legitimate reason to keep them around.  As long as Willie wasn't going to show her goods, they should've left her behind in Shanghai.  Or at least tied her to a tree in the village.

Kids usually make movies suck, but you could do a lot worse than Short Round.
 
2013-05-01 10:56:18 AM

dragonchild: Kids usually make movies suck, but you could do a lot worse than Short Round.


And Spielberg has, in virtually every subsequent movie that doesn't involve history.
 
2013-05-01 11:00:05 AM

moothemagiccow: Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.


Where was the horror exactly?  And where was the 'interesting'?

/I fell asleep the first time I attempted to watch it
 
2013-05-01 11:01:27 AM

You Are All Sheep: LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.

I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.


Ya know, for some reason modern parents think children are peaceful and kindly. Kids are evil little bastards with a sadistic streak that any indirect relative can appreciate.
 
2013-05-01 11:02:32 AM

t3knomanser: Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest:  Highlander is nearly unwatchable. The soundtrack is great. Watching Clancy Brown chew scenery is cool. Everything else is just awful. The fight sequences are poorly directed. The plot is an incoherent mess, with a shoe-horned in romance subplot that makes  absolutely no sense.


I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

/still watched the whole damn thing
 
2013-05-01 11:03:07 AM

dragonchild: Englebert Slaptyback: Short Round = Jar-Jar

Bullshiat, Short Round was occasionally useful.  Jar-Jar ended the Republic by acting on his own in Padme's absence.

I'm actually OK with "annoying" characters in principle.  Sometimes they fail at comic relief; often they aren't realistic.  But they come part and parcel with grand adventure stories, and sometimes they do work.  What grinds my gears is when they become dangerously clumsy liabilities that are tolerated with only expressions of mild annoyance, especially when there's no legitimate reason to keep them around.  As long as Willie wasn't going to show her goods, they should've left her behind in Shanghai.  Or at least tied her to a tree in the village.

Kids usually make movies suck, but you could do a lot worse than Short Round.


Short Round at least redeemed himself, somewhat, when he says "Indy, I love you" before hitting him with the torch to snap him out of the Black Sleep of Kali, followed up with him and Indy handing the other they hats. That was touching without being overly cute.

But then they had to have the bit where he knocks a half dozen Thugee like dominoes with one kick. Ugh.
 
2013-05-01 11:08:01 AM
I was expecting a mention of Bob Hoskins or the entire cast of Super Mario Brothers.
 
2013-05-01 11:13:38 AM

t3knomanser: Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest: Highlander is nearly unwatchable.


I never caught the Highlander bug the first time around.  My HS friends were all nuts over it but I couldn't see why beyond swordfighting.  I suppose there are enough gaps in a historical narrative that you can conclude Macleod somehow became powerful enough to beat Kurgan, but the movie doesn't develop that at all.  He fights a few duels but there isn't any sort of progression to them.  He's trains a bit, but under a mentor who loses to Kurgan centuries before the present-day arc.  It's left up to fanbois to justify how Macleod apparently accumulated enough skill to best Kurgan in combat, but the movie gives the impression that Kurgan's been doing most of the fighting while Macleod fusses about until he finally dudebros his way to victory.  I'm not asking for a Rocky montage, but Macleod didn't even seem motivated until it became a win-the-girl issue, which is a little too late to catch up to a psychopath who's enjoyed hunting skilled swordsmen for centuries.
 
2013-05-01 11:16:03 AM

Fano: gunga galunga: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.

Well, the dinner scene is just a gross out sequence. My Indian fiance has never hinted that any item on the menu was ever eaten. Then again, Hollywood seemed to have the idea that Asians consider chilled monkey brains a delicacy, based on what I'll never know.


Because Asians actually do eat monkey brains.  Whether they are chilled or not, they are eaten because it is another way for Asians to get boners.  While food stuffs are cultural and should be treated as such, Asians do chow down on some bizarre stuff. You can dig around on the internet and there are articles written on the meal showing that the majority of the foodstuffs are based on fact from various cultures.

Also if your fiance was born and raised in the states(or been here most of her life), she might have no idea of some of the food that her people eat.

I am a US born Colombian, but I periodically got and live in Colombia for years at a time, and I was suprised I knew more about Colombian "delicacies" than Colombian friends in the states.

hormigas culonas - Big ass ants(literal translation) they soak them in saltwater and bake them. They say they taste like peanuts.  I have never eaten them.

eatyourworld.com


Cuy - guinea pig

pastoturista.galeon.com

Lobanillo - which means tumor, they collect tumors that grow on cattle and fry them.

My point is all cultures have gross foods and it is not a racial slur to point them out.
 
2013-05-01 11:23:11 AM

dragonchild


Bullshiat, Short Round was occasionally useful. Jar-Jar ended the Republic by acting on his own in Padme's absence.


He ended the Republic? Really? I didn't watch anything past Phantom Menace but that sounds like an awful stretch. It would be like allowing Chewbacca to handle things at Bespin by himself.

Short Round and Jar-Jar were both intended to be cutesy sidekicks with amusingly broken English and a knack for causing problems.
 
2013-05-01 11:24:25 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: He ended the Republic? Really? I didn't watch anything past Phantom Menace but that sounds like an awful stretch.


Yes, he actually did.  Really.
 
2013-05-01 11:26:36 AM
I always liked Michael Cain's comment on Jaws 4,  "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."
 
2013-05-01 11:29:27 AM

t3knomanser


Yes, he actually did. Really.


That's... disappointing. Yeesh.
 
2013-05-01 11:31:40 AM
I still want an apology for battlefield la or whatever it was called. So much potential and yet sooo bad.
 
2013-05-01 11:31:53 AM
Movie, nothin'. I'm still waiting for Lucas to apologize for this:

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2013-05-01 11:35:02 AM
theflatline:
hormigas culonas - Big ass ants(literal translation) they soak them i ...

big-ass ants...or big ass-ants?
 
2013-05-01 11:42:49 AM

theflatline: My point is all cultures have gross foods and it is not a racial slur to point them out.


Besides, the purpose of that scene is to put Willie Scott through hell, not to point and say "Ha! Ha! Look at all the gross shiat Indian eat. Aren't they disgusting?" Remember that Pankot Palace was a front for the resurrection of a long dormant cult that involved child slavery and human sacrifice. It would make sense that they eat weird shiat.
 
2013-05-01 11:47:19 AM

Spaced Lion: Movie, nothin'. I'm still waiting for Lucas to apologize for this:

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He did say something like "if I could, I'd take a sledgehammer to every copy of that thing". Does that count?
 
2013-05-01 11:54:11 AM

t3knomanser: Englebert Slaptyback: He ended the Republic? Really? I didn't watch anything past Phantom Menace but that sounds like an awful stretch.

Yes, he actually did.  Really.


Personally, I blame Amidala for that one. I mean really, who the hell would have thought it was a good idea to make Jar-Jar an interim Senator?
 
2013-05-01 12:01:03 PM

gingerjet: I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.


That's a pretty bold statement considering what came out of that genre:

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2013-05-01 12:04:04 PM
I read some of the script, I thought it was hysterical on paper, but the movie... egads!
Cosby went on tv shows and warned people not to see it.

www.avcesar.com
 
2013-05-01 12:08:34 PM

Staffa Kar Therma: I read some of the script, I thought it was hysterical on paper, but the movie... egads!
Cosby went on tv shows and warned people not to see it.

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Was it still the same script?
 
2013-05-01 12:15:25 PM
Pretty sure that David Spade walked out of the theater during the premier of "Joe Dirt" and apologized profusely as he was getting in his limo to escape.

I remember reading about that.
 
2013-05-01 12:15:41 PM

theflatline: Fano: gunga galunga: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.

Well, the dinner scene is just a gross out sequence. My Indian fiance has never hinted that any item on the menu was ever eaten. Then again, Hollywood seemed to have the idea that Asians consider chilled monkey brains a delicacy, based on what I'll never know.

Because Asians actually do eat monkey brains.  Whether they are chilled or not, they are eaten because it is another way for Asians to get boners.  While food stuffs are cultural and should be treated as such, Asians do chow down on some bizarre stuff. You can dig around on the internet and there are articles written on the meal showing that the majority of the foodstuffs are based on fact from various cultures.

Also if your fiance was born and raised in the states(or been here most of her life), she might have no idea of some of the food that her people eat.

I am a US born Colombian, but I periodically got and live in Colombia for years at a time, and I was suprised I knew more about Colombian "delicacies" than Colombian friends in the states.

hormigas culonas - Big ass ants(literal translation) they soak them in saltwater and bake them. They say they taste like peanuts.  I have never eaten them.




Cuy - guinea pig



Lobanillo - which means tumor, they collect tumors that grow on cattle and fry them.

My point is all cultures have gross foods and it is not a racial slur to point them out.


No, actually from south India. Mostly vegetarian. But I'm pretty sure snake surprise, with wiggly tiny snakes inside a giant anaconda, is not and never was a part of Indian cuisine. Well, maybe those punks in Rajasthan.

My mention of monkey brains was from thinking about the mention in Clue as well. Granted, traditional Chinese is the Noah's Ark of cuisine: two of every animal that ever walked, crawled or flew across God's Green Earth.

Side thought: eating monkey brain: clever reference to secret Kali worshippers insulting Hanuman?
 
2013-05-01 12:16:30 PM

Mugato: movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah

Supposedly the director's cut is infinitely better. I'll take their word for it.


The Renegade cut is supposedly the one to see.   There are at least 3 major edits on this film.   The one I finally watched didn't mention space or aliens at all (although we did see the space ship in one scene).
 
2013-05-01 12:17:07 PM

trickymoo: Pretty sure that David Spade walked out of the theater during the premier of "Joe Dirt" and apologized profusely as he was getting in his limo to escape.

I remember reading about that.


Holy shiat, that moment must have resembled the last chopper out of Saigon.
 
2013-05-01 12:17:08 PM

genepool lifeboat: gingerjet: I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

That's a pretty bold statement considering what came out of that genre:

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What the hell are you talking about? Those were awesome 80's action flicks! Well awesome in that cheesy turn your brain off fun action movie way.

Highlander didn't have nearly the amount of action, but the concept was cool, and the soundtrack kicked ass.
 
2013-05-01 12:23:04 PM

UberDave: If they would have had Cate Blanchett wear a thong bikini the whole movie there would have been few, if any, complaints about Crystal Skull...


Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2013-05-01 12:37:21 PM

genepool lifeboat: gingerjet: I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

That's a pretty bold statement considering what came out of that genre:

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I think you're confusing "bad" with "totally farking kick ass".
 
2013-05-01 12:39:56 PM

natmar_76: genepool lifeboat: gingerjet: I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

That's a pretty bold statement considering what came out of that genre:

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I think you're confusing "bad" with "totally farking kick ass".


They're bad, but they are also fun.  I never said I had a problem with them.
 
2013-05-01 12:40:09 PM

trickymoo: Pretty sure that David Spade walked out of the theater during the premier of "Joe Dirt" and apologized profusely as he was getting in his limo to escape.

I remember reading about that.


Huh, guess I'm in the minority that I liked Joe Dirt. I knew it was stupid going into it, and it didn't disappoint. I mean what did people expect from a comedy about the white trashiest guy ever dreamed of? Also, sweet baby Jesus Brittany Daniel was smoking hot in that movie.
 
2013-05-01 12:53:22 PM

Wellon Dowd: These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

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I agree, oh so much.

That movie could have helped its three Disney stars launch into successful careers as grown up actresses. Instead, they wussed out, and didn't show the boobage.

Now, no one will ever care about them again.
 
2013-05-01 12:58:39 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


She wasn't the whole problem; the kid was also annoying.

Short Round = Jar-Jar


Cmon. Your being a little bit hard on the goonie aintcha?
 
2013-05-01 01:08:27 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: genepool lifeboat: gingerjet: I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

That's a pretty bold statement considering what came out of that genre:

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What the hell are you talking about? Those were awesome 80's action flicks! Well awesome in that cheesy turn your brain off fun action movie way.

Highlander didn't have nearly the amount of action, but the concept was cool, and the soundtrack kicked ass.


Agreed. Queen + Michael Kamen = epic awesomeness. Plus, you've got Sean Connery playing an Egyptian with a Spanish name, and Scottish brogue all while wearing a peacock's feathers and someone's drapes. Lambert is hit or miss (he always was though, if we're being honest), but I still maintain that Highlander is a great concept with so so execution. It's an idea I dare say may even be improved upon with a reboot. Which is not something I say often.
 
2013-05-01 01:20:37 PM

movieman_1979: Agreed. Queen + Michael Kamen = epic awesomeness. Plus, you've got Sean Connery playing an Egyptian with a Spanish name, and Scottish brogue all while wearing a peacock's feathers and someone's drapes. Lambert is hit or miss (he always was though, if we're being honest), but I still maintain that Highlander is a great concept with so so execution. It's an idea I dare say may even be improved upon with a reboot. Which is not something I say often.


It actually had some pretty good cinematography, especially the transitions from the past to the present. But Christopher Lambert was a terrible actor and the love interest was kind of a skank.
 
2013-05-01 01:23:25 PM

Spaced Lion: Movie, nothin'. I'm still waiting for Lucas to apologize for this:

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What I heard was George made an outline before going "Screw this shiat" and began making Empire Strikes Back instead.
 
2013-05-01 01:39:57 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: trickymoo: Pretty sure that David Spade walked out of the theater during the premier of "Joe Dirt" and apologized profusely as he was getting in his limo to escape.

I remember reading about that.

Huh, guess I'm in the minority that I liked Joe Dirt. I knew it was stupid going into it, and it didn't disappoint


Yep

Brittany Daniel was smoking hot in that movie.

Yup
 
2013-05-01 02:16:01 PM

t3knomanser: movieman_1979: I like to look at the Highlander series as sort of the "Let's Make A Deal" of movie franchises

Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest:  Highlander is nearly unwatchable. The soundtrack is great. Watching Clancy Brown chew scenery is cool. Everything else is just awful. The fight sequences are poorly directed. The plot is an incoherent mess, with a shoe-horned in romance subplot that makes  absolutely no sense.

It's good with the RiffTrax, but it's still too damn long.


What? You don't think women get turned on by watching guys impale themselves on dirks? That chicks just don't dig blood and guts? That Brenda was a farking freak.
 
2013-05-01 02:17:46 PM

genepool lifeboat: gingerjet: I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

That's a pretty bold statement considering what came out of that genre:

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Awww come on The Last Dragon was freaking awsome. How can you not love a Kung Foo Movie whose villians name is Shonuff?
 
2013-05-01 02:32:15 PM
 ... not sure if anybody mentioned this yet, but Stephen King apologized for Maximum Overdrive.

I thought Battlefield Earth was a pretty damn good movie.
 
2013-05-01 02:33:01 PM

Unlike the rest of the individuals on this list, Halle Berry did not apologize for Catwoman. She blamed Warner Brothers.


"I want to thank Warner Bros. Thank you for putting me in a piece of s---, god awful movie."


//Can we retroactively take back her and Cuba Gooding Jr's Oscars?

 
2013-05-01 02:41:18 PM

kanesays: Unlike the rest of the individuals on this list, Halle Berry did not apologize for Catwoman. She blamed Warner Brothers.
"I want to thank Warner Bros. Thank you for putting me in a piece of s---, god awful movie."
//Can we retroactively take back her and Cuba Gooding Jr's Oscars?


Eh, Cuba Gooding Jr. can be decent when he wants to. Look at Men of Honor or Radio, I just don't get why his career tanked. Was it that silly movie with the dogs? Halle Berry has always been a bit of a meh actress, but still damned nice to look at.
 
2013-05-01 02:53:07 PM

MJMaloney187: ... not sure if anybody mentioned this yet, but Stephen King apologized for Maximum Overdrive.

I thought Battlefield Earth was a pretty damn good movie.


When I paid money to see it in the theater, I left thinking, "OMG!  WTF did I just pay to see?!?!"

Later, when I saw it on video, I liked it a lot more.  Paying to see it somehow blinded me from seeing it in a humorous light.

Now, if that humor wasn't intentional, then it is a completely disastrous work.  I choose to believe it was meant to be.
 
2013-05-01 02:55:26 PM

trickymoo: Pretty sure that David Spade walked out of the theater during the premier of "Joe Dirt" and apologized profusely as he was getting in his limo to escape.

I remember reading about that.


Doubt it. He co-wrote the flick and was working on an animated version a few years back.
 
2013-05-01 02:58:47 PM
Richard Dreyfuss has always seemed a little weasely to me for this reason. He only took his role as Hooper in Jaws because he hated the at-the-time unreleased last movie he was in and thought once people saw it he would never work again. Jaws had a notoriously difficult production and the mechanical shark hardly ever worked, so Dreyfuss was in the press bashing the movie before it was even released and pretty much throwing Spielberg under the bus. Then it's a huge hit and made his career and suddenly he loved it.
 
2013-05-01 03:08:14 PM

movieman_1979: And yes, I am aware that I am omitting the animated series and 5th film, for which no amount of apology can make up for.


Nonsense for the animated series at least. Yes it was directed at kids, but not nearly as sanitized as a lot of shows from that era. Kind of sad it was never concluded, in fact.
 
2013-05-01 03:08:16 PM

Losac: Richard Dreyfuss has always seemed a little weasely to me for this reason. He only took his role as Hooper in Jaws because he hated the at-the-time unreleased last movie he was in and thought once people saw it he would never work again. Jaws had a notoriously difficult production and the mechanical shark hardly ever worked, so Dreyfuss was in the press bashing the movie before it was even released and pretty much throwing Spielberg under the bus. Then it's a huge hit and made his career and suddenly he loved it.


[citation needed]

I'm a huge connoisseur of Jaws trivia and this is the first I've heard of that.
 
2013-05-01 03:09:12 PM
List fails without this Paul Newman stinker:
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2013-05-01 03:17:24 PM

gunga galunga: Losac: Richard Dreyfuss has always seemed a little weasely to me for this reason. He only took his role as Hooper in Jaws because he hated the at-the-time unreleased last movie he was in and thought once people saw it he would never work again. Jaws had a notoriously difficult production and the mechanical shark hardly ever worked, so Dreyfuss was in the press bashing the movie before it was even released and pretty much throwing Spielberg under the bus. Then it's a huge hit and made his career and suddenly he loved it.

[citation needed]

I'm a huge connoisseur of Jaws trivia and this is the first I've heard of that.


It was in the Jaws Inside Story documentary on the Biography Channel. Dreyfuss tells how he initially turned Spielberg down for the role then called him back and begged for it after he saw his performance in The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz (looked up the name). They also had an old news clip of him bashing Jaws for all of the production problems after filming had wrapped but it hadn't yet been released.

http://www.biography.com/tv/inside-story/episodes/jaws
 
2013-05-01 03:20:52 PM

Losac: They also had an old news clip of him bashing Jaws for all of the production problems after filming had wrapped but it hadn't yet been released.

http://www.biography.com/tv/inside-story/episodes/jaws


I'll have to watch the video when I get home.
 
2013-05-01 04:02:02 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?



Fun fact - Temple was a prequel, not a sequel.  And if a movie could ever be overrated and underrated at the same time, TOD would be it, IMHO.
 
2013-05-01 04:18:34 PM

MJMaloney187: ... not sure if anybody mentioned this yet, but Stephen King apologized for Maximum Overdrive.

I thought Battlefield Earth was a pretty damn good movie.


Well you thought wrong. Do not make us put the cone of shame on you.
 
2013-05-01 04:41:15 PM

spman: Joel Schumacher give a half hearted apology for Batman and Robin on the commentary track on the DVD. Personally I don't mind the film, I think it works great as a comedy.


This is a great way to look at the movie. Personally, I've never understood why this movie generates so much fun. Schumacher has nothing to apologize for. Of all the Batman movies from 1989 to 1997, it was the most honest about what it was doing and, for that reason, the most fully realized. It's fair to not like what Schumacher did, but it's totally unfair for the internet hivemind to act like it wasn't a legitimate take on Batman. It was. It's not my favorite, either, but I enjoy the movie for what it is - an over the top campfest that isn't supposed to be taken seriously. It's not even close to being one of the worst movies of all-time - in fact, it's a lot of fun if you chill out and take it for what it is. It's a helluva lot more enjoyable to watch than Christopher Nolan's last pretentious snoozefest.

It's also much more honest than either Burton film. I like how those two movies were supposed to be dark and psychological, but they're really villain-of-the-week campfests, too. They're also really shallow. I mean, both movies portray Batman as essentially some crazy guy who murders at will - that's it. That's not psychological, that's just lazy writing. At least Batman & Robin felt like a complete film - Batman and Batman Returns come off like they were written by about a dozen different writers; the plot holes are bursting at the seams.
 
2013-05-01 04:58:09 PM

maweimer9: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


Fun fact - Temple was a prequel, not a sequel.  And if a movie could ever be overrated and underrated at the same time, TOD would be it, IMHO.


One thing you can say about ToD is that unlike any of the other movie of the franchise, Indiana Jones actually goes through a character arc. He grows as a person, whereas in all the other movies, he is pretty much the same person at the end of the movie as he is at the beginning. At the beginning of ToD, we see that sometime since his youth, he has lost his way (probably around the time he porked the underage daughter of his mentor). He has gone from "it belongs in a museum" to "fortune and glory". As Chatha Lal delights in reminding him, he had already caused trouble and made a bad name for himself in several countries. (Not to mention that in Raiders, Belloq reminds Indy that they are not much different when it came down to it.) At the beginning of the movie, he is willing to trade away a priceless artifact for a diamond. It is his adventures in ToD, most particularly freeing the imprisoned children, the restores him to his original idealistic beliefs, paving the way for Raider which is why I believe Lucas had this movie set before the others.
 
2013-05-01 04:58:52 PM

velvet_fog: Of all the Batman movies from 1989 to 1997, it was the most honest about what it was doing and, for that reason, the most fully realized. It's fair to not like what Schumacher did, but it's totally unfair for the internet hivemind to act like it wasn't a legitimate take on Batman


There's really no way to answer your post in a way where you can't just respond, "Well it's a comic book movie. It's supposed to be campy and cheesy and since it was almost universally reviled, I'm pulling the 'hive mind' card to make you all look like mindless followers". Well, ok. But that's not where the audience's head was at at the time. The comic itself was getting darker with The Dark Knight Returns and the Burton films, although sort of campy themselves, were heading in that darker direction (I really don't know where the plot holes you speak of were). So no one was in the mood for a regression back into the ridiculous camp of the TV show or worse.  But they could have still pulled it off if the dialog, action and general script wasn't so over-the-top horrible.

And it didn't help that Batgirl's uncle Alfred made her Batgirl suit. That was just creepy.
 
2013-05-01 05:08:39 PM

gunga galunga: One thing you can say about ToD is that unlike any of the other movie of the franchise, Indiana Jones actually goes through a character arc


Indy goes through a similar arc in Raiders. He finds that Marion is alive and instead of untying her and making a run for it, he ties her back up and goes after the Ark. Then later he threatens to blow up the Ark because all he wants is Marion. He ultimately can't go through with it but it's clear that he cares more for her than the Ark.

But yeah, he's definitely more of a mercenary bastard in ToD, dealing with gangsters for a diamond he clearly doesn't intend to give to the museum, putting a woman and child in jeopardy for fortune and glory and ultimately giving the prize away. Realistically, the events in Shanghai in 1937/38 were the reason to make ToD set in 1935 but it does fit his character arc better that way.

 Last Crusade was more about Henry Sr's journey, similar to Indy's in Raiders, as he finds that everything he was looking for in the Grail was right in front of him in his son. Crystal Skull was about Mutt learning to swing with monkeys.
 
2013-05-01 05:15:21 PM

Mugato: Indy goes through a similar arc in Raiders. He finds that Marion is alive and instead of untying her and making a run for it, he ties her back up and goes after the Ark. Then later he threatens to blow up the Ark because all he wants is Marion. He ultimately can't go through with it but it's clear that he cares more for her than the Ark.


To be fair, Indy did have a point that if the Nazis found her missing, they would tear the camp up looking for them.
 
2013-05-01 05:16:18 PM

vrax: MJMaloney187: ... not sure if anybody mentioned this yet, but Stephen King apologized for Maximum Overdrive.

I thought Battlefield Earth was a pretty damn good movie.

When I paid money to see it in the theater, I left thinking, "OMG!  WTF did I just pay to see?!?!"

Later, when I saw it on video, I liked it a lot more.  Paying to see it somehow blinded me from seeing it in a humorous light.

Now, if that humor wasn't intentional, then it is a completely disastrous work.  I choose to believe it was meant to be.


Aw, com'n ... Battlefield Earth is a fantastically original movie. I suppose opinions vary.

And I was right about Maximum Overdrive. From the Youtube comment section:

"I'm a writer and I've been listening to the audio book 'On Writing' by Stephen King. He himself says that Maximum overdrive is the worst thing he has ever written/directed and that he was high on cocaine."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWS4tTzs60">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=ggWS4tTzs60
 
2013-05-01 05:25:13 PM

gunga galunga: To be fair, Indy did have a point that if the Nazis found her missing, they would tear the camp up looking for them.


Yeah, but did he think their chances of getting away would somehow improve after he got the Ark and then came back for her? For all he knew that wasn't a coat hanger that little sadistic Nazi prick was packing. He left her there to be tortured and maybe killed while he went after the Ark, stop making excuses for him. :p
 
2013-05-01 05:35:39 PM
"Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.
 
2013-05-01 05:41:43 PM

gunga galunga: TheSelphie: You said "Shia LaBeouf" twice.

I was going to say "he likes Shia LaBeouf", but nobody likes Shia LaBeouf.


Missing from article: Shia LaBeouf apologizing for being Shia LaBeouf, and for having the name "Shia LaBeouf".
 
2013-05-01 05:51:13 PM

ReapTheChaos: "Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.


I'm with you.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.


You lost me.
 
2013-05-01 06:05:38 PM

ReapTheChaos: "Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.


Basically there had never been a retarded character in Star Wars before. Flaws included overconfidence, greed and pride, but never mental defect.
 
2013-05-01 06:19:11 PM
www.thesharkguys.com

"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."
 
2013-05-01 06:26:07 PM

WTF Indeed: The only people that should apologize for Star Wars are the idiots who b*tch about it on the internet but saw it fives in the theater and own the DVD and Blu Ray of it.


Fives? I'd call those people "amateurs". I saw the original Star Wars at least 25 times in the theater.


Bradspace: I always liked Michael Cain's comment on Jaws 4,  "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."


Oops, did a control+f for "caine" before I posted.
 
2013-05-01 06:34:21 PM

fusillade762: [www.thesharkguys.com image 300x400]

"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."


Fellow members of the "I was buying a house" club include Jeremy Irons for the Dungeons and Dragons movie and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise.
 
2013-05-01 06:50:18 PM

gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise


The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

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...so he's complicated and stuff.
 
2013-05-01 06:55:55 PM
Still pending: personal apologies from Michael Mann for Miami Vice (I'm not blaming the cast, the movie was just awfully boring) as well as from every single person involved in The Avengers (no, not that one, the one with Fiennes and Thurman).
 
2013-05-01 07:04:41 PM

Dancis_Frake: Still pending: personal apologies from Michael Mann for Miami Vice (I'm not blaming the cast, the movie was just awfully boring)


I dunno, Michael Mann can shoot a cityscape. See Miami Vice (original), Collateral, Manhunter, Heat.
 
2013-05-01 08:23:36 PM
When you start up the director's commentary on your DVD of Death to Smoochy, "Sorry" is the first thing Danny DeVito says.

/I dunno, I kind of liked it apart from the boxer character.
//It's a... rocketship!
 
2013-05-01 09:21:34 PM

Mugato: Dancis_Frake: Still pending: personal apologies from Michael Mann for Miami Vice (I'm not blaming the cast, the movie was just awfully boring)

I dunno, Michael Mann can shoot a cityscape. See Miami Vice (original), Collateral, Manhunter, Heat.


Manhunter was brilliant from the cast, to the shooting, to the soundtrack.  Brian Cox as Lecter was an amazing choice, so much better than the Red Dragon Movie.  Tom Noonan owned the role and Ralph Fiennes was a poor comparison.

I recently revisited Miami Vice as an adult, and it is a gritty cop drama, despite the pastels and the espadrilles.

The cast for the Miami Vice movie was awful.  You pick an ugly chinese chick and some latinos from the bronx, an irishman, and a black dude from texas, and no real cuban in the movie.  Failed from the start.
 
2013-05-01 09:23:18 PM

ReapTheChaos: "Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.


Were you a child when Phantom Menace came out?
 
2013-05-01 10:15:57 PM

theflatline: I recently revisited Miami Vice as an adult, and it is a gritty cop drama, despite the pastels and the espadrilles.


I think that TV show was the first time I ever saw someone actually reload a gun during a shootout.
 
2013-05-01 11:05:41 PM

bill4935: /I dunno, I kind of liked it apart from the boxer character.


I don't understand the hate for Death to Smoochy. It's a perfectly serviceable black comedy. It's no  Ruthless People (also DeVito, has some general plot similarities, Ed Norton and Judd Nelson basically played the same character, only one had a dinosaur suit).
 
2013-05-02 12:21:00 AM

t3knomanser: bill4935: /I dunno, I kind of liked it apart from the boxer character.

I don't understand the hate for Death to Smoochy. It's a perfectly serviceable black comedy. It's no  Ruthless People (also DeVito, has some general plot similarities, Ed Norton and Judd Nelson basically played the same character, only one had a dinosaur suit).


Death to Smoochy is a perfectly cromulent and underrated film.
 
2013-05-02 12:48:38 AM

moothemagiccow: Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?

WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense.


She was there because (1) Spielberg wanted her there and (2) we always have to have a girl/woman in action flicks to prove that girls/women can be tough, too.
 
2013-05-02 12:52:35 AM

gunga galunga: maweimer9: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


Fun fact - Temple was a prequel, not a sequel.  And if a movie could ever be overrated and underrated at the same time, TOD would be it, IMHO.

One thing you can say about ToD is that unlike any of the other movie of the franchise, Indiana Jones actually goes through a character arc. He grows as a person, whereas in all the other movies, he is pretty much the same person at the end of the movie as he is at the beginning. At the beginning of ToD, we see that sometime since his youth, he has lost his way (probably around the time he porked the underage daughter of his mentor). He has gone from "it belongs in a museum" to "fortune and glory". As Chatha Lal delights in reminding him, he had already caused trouble and made a bad name for himself in several countries. (Not to mention that in Raiders, Belloq reminds Indy that they are not much different when it came down to it.) At the beginning of the movie, he is willing to trade away a priceless artifact for a diamond. It is his adventures in ToD, most particularly freeing the imprisoned children, the restores him to his original idealistic beliefs, paving the way for Raider which is why I believe Lucas had this movie set before the others.


Excellent point. I like all of the trilogy, though Last Crusade has fallen a bit since I first saw it as a kid. Bookending Indy's relationship with his father was good. Turning Sallah and Brody into buffoons I'm not very forgiving of.

Listen to both of them in the trailer for Raiders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THge74MSpQ

I understand they probably made Last Crusade more lighthearted because a lot of critics thought Temple of Doom was too dark. But I'll vote that Temple of Doom is the BEST prequel movie ever made, even with it's flaws.
 
2013-05-02 01:06:36 AM

gunga galunga: maweimer9: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


Fun fact - Temple was a prequel, not a sequel.  And if a movie could ever be overrated and underrated at the same time, TOD would be it, IMHO.

One thing you can say about ToD is that unlike any of the other movie of the franchise, Indiana Jones actually goes through a character arc. He grows as a person, whereas in all the other movies, he is pretty much the same person at the end of the movie as he is at the beginning. At the beginning of ToD, we see that sometime since his youth, he has lost his way (probably around the time he porked the underage daughter of his mentor). He has gone from "it belongs in a museum" to "fortune and glory". As Chatha Lal delights in reminding him, he had already caused trouble and made a bad name for himself in several countries. (Not to mention that in Raiders, Belloq reminds Indy that they are not much different when it came down to it.) At the beginning of the movie, he is willing to trade away a priceless artifact for a diamond. It is his adventures in ToD, most particularly freeing the imprisoned children, the restores him to his original idealistic beliefs, paving the way for Raider which is why I believe Lucas had this movie set before the others.


I give Temple of Doom credit for daring to do something different rather than just straight-up regurgitate Raiders like Last Crusade did. Honestly, it's like they dusted off the script for "Raiders" and crossed out stuff here and there:

Indy gets approached by the FBI/Donovan to find a Judeo-Christian artifact for them (the Ark of the Covenant/the Holy Grail).Indy goes home and talks to Marcus about it. Marcus talks about the spiritual nature of the artifact.Indy heads out of the country, meeting his eventual love interest (Marion/Elsa).While there, they face forces trying to stop them from finding the artifact.Ultimately, the Nazis are after the artifact.A desert chase sequence in which Indy is almost killed.The artifact is lost in the end (The Ark gets locked away in a mysterious warehouse, the Grail falls into a crevice.).The trouble with Marcus Brody was that he'd been established as Indy's father figure in Raiders, but now, with Indy's actual father involved in Last Crusade, he has nothing to do.
 
2013-05-02 02:46:50 AM

Fark Me To Tears: moothemagiccow: Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?

WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense.

She was there because (1) Spielberg wanted her there and (2) we always have to have a girl/woman in action flicks to prove that girls/women can be tough, too.


Yup. She's a foil to tough as nails young Indiana. And Spielberg married her. Her scenes with the elephants and her screeching during the card game at the camp site are embarrassing.

On the plus side, she's fabulous in the scenes at the Obi Wan club, when she's in her element, and the opening sequence is great fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCn6G7cp5I
 
2013-05-02 08:51:55 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise

The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

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...so he's complicated and stuff.


Nah. He got to the Andy Millman level and figured he'd rather be in bad movies than have to live like one of us regular jagoffs. Either the quality of his standup dropped off dramatically or I just started being less cynical. He was also the worst part of Arrested Development.
 
2013-05-02 09:54:18 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise

The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

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...so he's complicated and stuff.


I loved how he got pissy when Patton Oswalt said "I was given the script for Alvin and the Chipmunks movie. It was so bad I threw it across the room and David Cross caught it". Patton had to remind him that David said he exact same thing earlier when Patton took a part that David turned down in Failure to Launch.
 
2013-05-02 10:04:41 AM

Fano: On the plus side, she's fabulous in the scenes at the Obi Wan club, when she's in her element, and the opening sequence is great fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCn6G7cp5I


Everything in Club Obi Wan leading up to, and including, "Nice try, Lao Che" is very enjoyable (although I can do without the schtick with the rickshaw coolie). It's when they leap out of the plane with an inflatable raft that the movie begins to lose me.
 
2013-05-02 10:50:04 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise

The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

[i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

...so he's complicated and stuff.


To me the guy is industrial-grade dogshiat applied to whatever TV show or movie he's in.  I'm sure he's a terrific guy, I just can't watch him in anything.
 
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