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(The FW)   Six people who apologized for their own movie. George Lucas conspicuously absent   (thefw.com) divider line 124
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2013-05-01 05:35:39 PM  
"Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.
 
2013-05-01 05:41:43 PM  

gunga galunga: TheSelphie: You said "Shia LaBeouf" twice.

I was going to say "he likes Shia LaBeouf", but nobody likes Shia LaBeouf.


Missing from article: Shia LaBeouf apologizing for being Shia LaBeouf, and for having the name "Shia LaBeouf".
 
2013-05-01 05:51:13 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.


I'm with you.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.


You lost me.
 
2013-05-01 06:05:38 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.


Basically there had never been a retarded character in Star Wars before. Flaws included overconfidence, greed and pride, but never mental defect.
 
2013-05-01 06:19:11 PM  
www.thesharkguys.com

"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."
 
2013-05-01 06:26:07 PM  

WTF Indeed: The only people that should apologize for Star Wars are the idiots who b*tch about it on the internet but saw it fives in the theater and own the DVD and Blu Ray of it.


Fives? I'd call those people "amateurs". I saw the original Star Wars at least 25 times in the theater.


Bradspace: I always liked Michael Cain's comment on Jaws 4,  "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."


Oops, did a control+f for "caine" before I posted.
 
2013-05-01 06:34:21 PM  

fusillade762: [www.thesharkguys.com image 300x400]

"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."


Fellow members of the "I was buying a house" club include Jeremy Irons for the Dungeons and Dragons movie and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise.
 
2013-05-01 06:50:18 PM  

gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise


The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

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...so he's complicated and stuff.
 
2013-05-01 06:55:55 PM  
Still pending: personal apologies from Michael Mann for Miami Vice (I'm not blaming the cast, the movie was just awfully boring) as well as from every single person involved in The Avengers (no, not that one, the one with Fiennes and Thurman).
 
2013-05-01 07:04:41 PM  

Dancis_Frake: Still pending: personal apologies from Michael Mann for Miami Vice (I'm not blaming the cast, the movie was just awfully boring)


I dunno, Michael Mann can shoot a cityscape. See Miami Vice (original), Collateral, Manhunter, Heat.
 
2013-05-01 08:23:36 PM  
When you start up the director's commentary on your DVD of Death to Smoochy, "Sorry" is the first thing Danny DeVito says.

/I dunno, I kind of liked it apart from the boxer character.
//It's a... rocketship!
 
2013-05-01 09:21:34 PM  

Mugato: Dancis_Frake: Still pending: personal apologies from Michael Mann for Miami Vice (I'm not blaming the cast, the movie was just awfully boring)

I dunno, Michael Mann can shoot a cityscape. See Miami Vice (original), Collateral, Manhunter, Heat.


Manhunter was brilliant from the cast, to the shooting, to the soundtrack.  Brian Cox as Lecter was an amazing choice, so much better than the Red Dragon Movie.  Tom Noonan owned the role and Ralph Fiennes was a poor comparison.

I recently revisited Miami Vice as an adult, and it is a gritty cop drama, despite the pastels and the espadrilles.

The cast for the Miami Vice movie was awful.  You pick an ugly chinese chick and some latinos from the bronx, an irishman, and a black dude from texas, and no real cuban in the movie.  Failed from the start.
 
2013-05-01 09:23:18 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "Basically no one liked 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

I liked it, wasn't the best Indy movie but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

"Lucas naturally said nothing. He's never apologized for Jar Jar, so why start now?"

I've never understood why so many people hated Jar Jar.


Were you a child when Phantom Menace came out?
 
2013-05-01 10:15:57 PM  

theflatline: I recently revisited Miami Vice as an adult, and it is a gritty cop drama, despite the pastels and the espadrilles.


I think that TV show was the first time I ever saw someone actually reload a gun during a shootout.
 
2013-05-01 11:05:41 PM  

bill4935: /I dunno, I kind of liked it apart from the boxer character.


I don't understand the hate for Death to Smoochy. It's a perfectly serviceable black comedy. It's no  Ruthless People (also DeVito, has some general plot similarities, Ed Norton and Judd Nelson basically played the same character, only one had a dinosaur suit).
 
2013-05-02 12:21:00 AM  

t3knomanser: bill4935: /I dunno, I kind of liked it apart from the boxer character.

I don't understand the hate for Death to Smoochy. It's a perfectly serviceable black comedy. It's no  Ruthless People (also DeVito, has some general plot similarities, Ed Norton and Judd Nelson basically played the same character, only one had a dinosaur suit).


Death to Smoochy is a perfectly cromulent and underrated film.
 
2013-05-02 12:48:38 AM  

moothemagiccow: Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?

WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense.


She was there because (1) Spielberg wanted her there and (2) we always have to have a girl/woman in action flicks to prove that girls/women can be tough, too.
 
2013-05-02 12:52:35 AM  

gunga galunga: maweimer9: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


Fun fact - Temple was a prequel, not a sequel.  And if a movie could ever be overrated and underrated at the same time, TOD would be it, IMHO.

One thing you can say about ToD is that unlike any of the other movie of the franchise, Indiana Jones actually goes through a character arc. He grows as a person, whereas in all the other movies, he is pretty much the same person at the end of the movie as he is at the beginning. At the beginning of ToD, we see that sometime since his youth, he has lost his way (probably around the time he porked the underage daughter of his mentor). He has gone from "it belongs in a museum" to "fortune and glory". As Chatha Lal delights in reminding him, he had already caused trouble and made a bad name for himself in several countries. (Not to mention that in Raiders, Belloq reminds Indy that they are not much different when it came down to it.) At the beginning of the movie, he is willing to trade away a priceless artifact for a diamond. It is his adventures in ToD, most particularly freeing the imprisoned children, the restores him to his original idealistic beliefs, paving the way for Raider which is why I believe Lucas had this movie set before the others.


Excellent point. I like all of the trilogy, though Last Crusade has fallen a bit since I first saw it as a kid. Bookending Indy's relationship with his father was good. Turning Sallah and Brody into buffoons I'm not very forgiving of.

Listen to both of them in the trailer for Raiders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THge74MSpQ

I understand they probably made Last Crusade more lighthearted because a lot of critics thought Temple of Doom was too dark. But I'll vote that Temple of Doom is the BEST prequel movie ever made, even with it's flaws.
 
2013-05-02 01:06:36 AM  

gunga galunga: maweimer9: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Englebert Slaptyback: Fano

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


Fun fact - Temple was a prequel, not a sequel.  And if a movie could ever be overrated and underrated at the same time, TOD would be it, IMHO.

One thing you can say about ToD is that unlike any of the other movie of the franchise, Indiana Jones actually goes through a character arc. He grows as a person, whereas in all the other movies, he is pretty much the same person at the end of the movie as he is at the beginning. At the beginning of ToD, we see that sometime since his youth, he has lost his way (probably around the time he porked the underage daughter of his mentor). He has gone from "it belongs in a museum" to "fortune and glory". As Chatha Lal delights in reminding him, he had already caused trouble and made a bad name for himself in several countries. (Not to mention that in Raiders, Belloq reminds Indy that they are not much different when it came down to it.) At the beginning of the movie, he is willing to trade away a priceless artifact for a diamond. It is his adventures in ToD, most particularly freeing the imprisoned children, the restores him to his original idealistic beliefs, paving the way for Raider which is why I believe Lucas had this movie set before the others.


I give Temple of Doom credit for daring to do something different rather than just straight-up regurgitate Raiders like Last Crusade did. Honestly, it's like they dusted off the script for "Raiders" and crossed out stuff here and there:

Indy gets approached by the FBI/Donovan to find a Judeo-Christian artifact for them (the Ark of the Covenant/the Holy Grail).Indy goes home and talks to Marcus about it. Marcus talks about the spiritual nature of the artifact.Indy heads out of the country, meeting his eventual love interest (Marion/Elsa).While there, they face forces trying to stop them from finding the artifact.Ultimately, the Nazis are after the artifact.A desert chase sequence in which Indy is almost killed.The artifact is lost in the end (The Ark gets locked away in a mysterious warehouse, the Grail falls into a crevice.).The trouble with Marcus Brody was that he'd been established as Indy's father figure in Raiders, but now, with Indy's actual father involved in Last Crusade, he has nothing to do.
 
2013-05-02 02:46:50 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: moothemagiccow: Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?

WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense.

She was there because (1) Spielberg wanted her there and (2) we always have to have a girl/woman in action flicks to prove that girls/women can be tough, too.


Yup. She's a foil to tough as nails young Indiana. And Spielberg married her. Her scenes with the elephants and her screeching during the card game at the camp site are embarrassing.

On the plus side, she's fabulous in the scenes at the Obi Wan club, when she's in her element, and the opening sequence is great fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCn6G7cp5I
 
2013-05-02 08:51:55 AM  

Mugato: gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise

The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

[i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

...so he's complicated and stuff.


Nah. He got to the Andy Millman level and figured he'd rather be in bad movies than have to live like one of us regular jagoffs. Either the quality of his standup dropped off dramatically or I just started being less cynical. He was also the worst part of Arrested Development.
 
2013-05-02 09:54:18 AM  

Mugato: gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise

The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

[i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

...so he's complicated and stuff.


I loved how he got pissy when Patton Oswalt said "I was given the script for Alvin and the Chipmunks movie. It was so bad I threw it across the room and David Cross caught it". Patton had to remind him that David said he exact same thing earlier when Patton took a part that David turned down in Failure to Launch.
 
2013-05-02 10:04:41 AM  

Fano: On the plus side, she's fabulous in the scenes at the Obi Wan club, when she's in her element, and the opening sequence is great fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCn6G7cp5I


Everything in Club Obi Wan leading up to, and including, "Nice try, Lao Che" is very enjoyable (although I can do without the schtick with the rickshaw coolie). It's when they leap out of the plane with an inflatable raft that the movie begins to lose me.
 
2013-05-02 10:50:04 AM  

Mugato: gunga galunga: and David Cross for the Alvin and the Chipmunk franchise

The thing about Cross though is that he has entire bits about actors and comedians who sell out. He's like the ultimate pretentious hipster. Yet he did the Chipmunks movie. And there's also a Mr. Show sketch where he also ridicules hipsters.

[i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

...so he's complicated and stuff.


To me the guy is industrial-grade dogshiat applied to whatever TV show or movie he's in.  I'm sure he's a terrific guy, I just can't watch him in anything.
 
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