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2013-05-01 08:27:49 AM
Shia LaBeouf and George Clooney weren't the problem with their respective films and didn't need to apologize. Spielberg was somewhat passive aggressive with his "apology".
 
2013-05-01 09:00:35 AM
Michael Bay apologized for Transformers 2.

Mugato: Shia LaBeouf


It was the character that was the problem. Didn't matter who played it, that character was going to suck. Granted I think Shia is a terrible actor, but you're right that wasn't his fault.
 
2013-05-01 09:25:05 AM
Joel Schumacher give a half hearted apology for Batman and Robin on the commentary track on the DVD. Personally I don't mind the film, I think it works great as a comedy.
 
2013-05-01 09:27:08 AM
If they would have had Cate Blanchett wear a thong bikini the whole movie there would have been few, if any, complaints about Crystal Skull...
 
2013-05-01 09:31:16 AM
I am not sure I accept the apology for Battlefield Earth, I saw eight or nine minutes before I turned it off to prevent projectile vomiting.  I understand Poison Control now lists it as a method to induce vomiting in cases of ingestion poisoning.
 
2013-05-01 09:48:23 AM
List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah
 
2013-05-01 09:49:33 AM
What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.
 
2013-05-01 09:51:01 AM

LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.


I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.
 
2013-05-01 09:51:15 AM
I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.
 
2013-05-01 09:54:36 AM
You said "Shia LaBeouf" twice.
 
2013-05-01 09:55:17 AM

movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah


That movie was a glorious hot mess.
 
2013-05-01 09:58:00 AM

movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah


Supposedly the director's cut is infinitely better. I'll take their word for it.
 
2013-05-01 09:59:18 AM
List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.
 
2013-05-01 09:59:34 AM
The only people that should apologize for Star Wars are the idiots who b*tch about it on the internet but saw it fives in the theater and own the DVD and Blu Ray of it.
 
2013-05-01 10:04:58 AM

TheSelphie: You said "Shia LaBeouf" twice.


I was going to say "he likes Shia LaBeouf", but nobody likes Shia LaBeouf.
 
2013-05-01 10:06:32 AM

SpdrJay: I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.


Prometheus doesn't suck; it's just misunderstood.  It's a meta movie, told from character perspective, where all the players in a GURPS session catastrophically fail all their skill checks.  It's one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of our generation.
 
2013-05-01 10:14:03 AM

gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.


Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar
 
2013-05-01 10:15:46 AM

You Are All Sheep: LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.

I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.


And the politics. Kids just love international space politics and trade disputes.
 
2013-05-01 10:16:29 AM
These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-01 10:18:23 AM

t3knomanser: You Are All Sheep: LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.

I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.

And the politics. Kids just love international space politics and trade disputes.


Daddy! Daddy! The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute!
 
2013-05-01 10:19:05 AM

dragonchild: SpdrJay: I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.

Prometheus doesn't suck; it's just misunderstood.  It's a meta movie, told from character perspective, where all the players in a GURPS session catastrophically fail all their skill checks.  It's one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of our generation.


Oh man, this again. It seemed like people who didn't like Prometheus thought it was both too smart and too dumb. They didn't spell out what was happening in every single scene, and sometimes the characters made bad decisions. fark, the whole mission was a bad decision. I guess some people expect to see perfect humans perform perfectly for two hours whenever they go to the movies.

I can see where they're coming from, because the Alien sequels are for morons. Aliens is a stereotypical 80s slasher flick with great special effects. Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.
 
2013-05-01 10:21:08 AM

moothemagiccow: Aliens is a stereotypical 80s slasher flick with great special effects. Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.


Don't feel too bad if you don't get bites.  Trolling gets better with practice.
 
2013-05-01 10:22:17 AM

gunga galunga: List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.


Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?
 
2013-05-01 10:23:52 AM

gunga galunga: I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.


I'm not sure you understand the difference between A-list and B-list movies.
 
2013-05-01 10:26:29 AM

Wellon Dowd: These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

[i.imgur.com image 460x460]


Eh, anyone dumb enough to think those two would actually take off their gear deserve to part with their 7 bucks.

/do they at least kiss?
 
2013-05-01 10:27:50 AM

Fano: gunga galunga: List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense. The movie is just farking dull, anyway. All the action is just padding and the acting is straight up bad.
I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.
 
2013-05-01 10:28:36 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar


What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.
 
2013-05-01 10:31:59 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar


Get out.
 
2013-05-01 10:36:13 AM

gunga galunga: What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?


It was pointless gross out humor. I guess it was supposed to be humor.
 
2013-05-01 10:37:28 AM

Mugato: movieman_1979: List fails without Russell Mulcahy apologizing for 'Highlander II: The Quickening'...at the premiere...in front of the crowd in attendance...before walking out 15 minutes into the film..yeah

Supposedly the director's cut is infinitely better. I'll take their word for it.


Not infinitely, but certainly better. I like to look at the Highlander series as sort of the "Let's Make A Deal" of movie franchises. Start with the first and then choose from four doors/paths to complete your Highlander journey. the second film, the third, the TV series (and subsequent 4th film), or the anime. Whichever door you choose will end your Highlander journey accordingly, but each path is very different and doesn't tie into the other in any way shape or form.

And yes, I am aware that I am omitting the animated series and 5th film, for which no amount of apology can make up for.
 
2013-05-01 10:37:29 AM

Wellon Dowd: These two should apologize for not showing the goods in Spring Breakers.

[i.imgur.com image 460x460]


Well, the brunette was supposed to be "the good girl", so that made sense. But yeah, the blonde should have been nude.

/Really good movie, btw
 
2013-05-01 10:38:11 AM

gunga galunga: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.


Well, the dinner scene is just a gross out sequence. My Indian fiance has never hinted that any item on the menu was ever eaten. Then again, Hollywood seemed to have the idea that Asians consider chilled monkey brains a delicacy, based on what I'll never know.
 
2013-05-01 10:39:19 AM

Fano: Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


If she STFU and got naked.  Shouldn't be too much to ask for a movie with ritual sacrifice, cultists eating live animals, child slavery, brainwashing and gore.
 
2013-05-01 10:39:23 AM

moothemagiccow: Fano: gunga galunga: List is missing Sandra Bullock apologizing for Speed 2.

And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

I think the problem with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones sequels stems from a remark he made during one of the featurettes on the Raiders DVD where he said he always meant for it to be a B movie. The original Raiders is, of course, an A movie classic, but he definitely approached the sequels like he was making B movies.

Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?

WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense. The movie is just farking dull, anyway. All the action is just padding and the acting is straight up bad.
I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.


Raiders still holds up.
 
2013-05-01 10:40:16 AM

Fano


Temple of Doom is an excellent sequel, if you can get past Kate Capshaw. And anyhow, she's a nightclub dancer, how could she be any less annoying?


She wasn't the whole problem; the kid was also annoying.

Short Round = Jar-Jar
 
2013-05-01 10:42:07 AM

movieman_1979: I like to look at the Highlander series as sort of the "Let's Make A Deal" of movie franchises


Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest:  Highlander is nearly unwatchable. The soundtrack is great. Watching Clancy Brown chew scenery is cool. Everything else is just awful. The fight sequences are poorly directed. The plot is an incoherent mess, with a shoe-horned in romance subplot that makes  absolutely no sense.

It's good with the RiffTrax, but it's still too damn long.
 
2013-05-01 10:43:19 AM

Mugato: gunga galunga: What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

It was pointless gross out humor. I guess it was supposed to be humor.


An annoying, spoiled nightclub singer being subjected to frightening cuisine? I laughed. I liked how the scene kept on building from the eels to the eyeballs in the soup to the chilled monkey brains. Plus, I thought it was a nice payoff to the earlier scene where she tried to reject the food the starving village presented to her.
 
2013-05-01 10:49:23 AM

Creative Name: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

Get out.


He's not wrong. Sallah was cheerful but not an oaf in raiders, Marcus was not a clown. Watching him lost in the middle east makes me wince.

Also, something I noticed last time I watched last crusade a couple months ago: the spot where they found the tomb of the crusader, cunningly hidden beneath the x in an ancient church converted to a library? Yeah, you can also reach it from a modern Italian sewer 50 feet away.... HOW WAS THIS NEVER FOUND BEFORE?
 
2013-05-01 10:51:39 AM

moothemagiccow: I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.


I'm not one to be nostalgic for films if they suck and Raiders and the Terminator movies are still awesome.
 
2013-05-01 10:51:54 AM
List fails without Allan Smithee.
 
2013-05-01 10:52:10 AM

moothemagiccow: WHY IS SHE THERE? It makes zero sense. The movie is just farking dull, anyway. All the action is just padding and the acting is straight up bad.
I'm convinced that the love for Indiana Jones and James Cameron movies is entirely nostalgia.


I think Raiders is fine, but I think Temple of Doom really only has good ideas marred by bad execution. I guess if you look back on the film and remember the good parts, it's a good film; but watching it a trudge.

I've come to the realisation that James Cameron is essentially a good version of Michael Bay. They both generally make big budget schlockfests yet Cameron generally has a good batting average.

moothemagiccow: dragonchild: SpdrJay: I want Ridley Scott to apologize for Prometheus by releasing a director's cut that doesn't suck.

Prometheus doesn't suck; it's just misunderstood.  It's a meta movie, told from character perspective, where all the players in a GURPS session catastrophically fail all their skill checks.  It's one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of our generation.

Oh man, this again. It seemed like people who didn't like Prometheus thought it was both too smart and too dumb. They didn't spell out what was happening in every single scene, and sometimes the characters made bad decisions. fark, the whole mission was a bad decision. I guess some people expect to see perfect humans perform perfectly for two hours whenever they go to the movies.

I can see where they're coming from, because the Alien sequels are for morons. Aliens is a stereotypical 80s slasher flick with great special effects. Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.


I'm of the opinion that Prometheus is a smart Sci-Fi film for stupid people; though even that description is being rather generous. I don't think it was a bad film -though it comes very close- but it really should've been much better.
 
2013-05-01 10:53:27 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: Short Round = Jar-Jar


Bullshiat, Short Round was occasionally useful.  Jar-Jar ended the Republic by acting on his own in Padme's absence.

I'm actually OK with "annoying" characters in principle.  Sometimes they fail at comic relief; often they aren't realistic.  But they come part and parcel with grand adventure stories, and sometimes they do work.  What grinds my gears is when they become dangerously clumsy liabilities that are tolerated with only expressions of mild annoyance, especially when there's no legitimate reason to keep them around.  As long as Willie wasn't going to show her goods, they should've left her behind in Shanghai.  Or at least tied her to a tree in the village.

Kids usually make movies suck, but you could do a lot worse than Short Round.
 
2013-05-01 10:56:18 AM

dragonchild: Kids usually make movies suck, but you could do a lot worse than Short Round.


And Spielberg has, in virtually every subsequent movie that doesn't involve history.
 
2013-05-01 11:00:05 AM

moothemagiccow: Prometheus was an interesting horror movie, like Alien.


Where was the horror exactly?  And where was the 'interesting'?

/I fell asleep the first time I attempted to watch it
 
2013-05-01 11:01:27 AM

You Are All Sheep: LL316: What should he apologize for?  Star Wars were made for children and children love them.  End of story.

I love all my dismembering and decapitating live action kids movies.


Ya know, for some reason modern parents think children are peaceful and kindly. Kids are evil little bastards with a sadistic streak that any indirect relative can appreciate.
 
2013-05-01 11:02:32 AM

t3knomanser: Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest:  Highlander is nearly unwatchable. The soundtrack is great. Watching Clancy Brown chew scenery is cool. Everything else is just awful. The fight sequences are poorly directed. The plot is an incoherent mess, with a shoe-horned in romance subplot that makes  absolutely no sense.


I just watched it again recently (it showed up on NetFlix) and its the poster child of bad 80s actions flicks.

/still watched the whole damn thing
 
2013-05-01 11:03:07 AM

dragonchild: Englebert Slaptyback: Short Round = Jar-Jar

Bullshiat, Short Round was occasionally useful.  Jar-Jar ended the Republic by acting on his own in Padme's absence.

I'm actually OK with "annoying" characters in principle.  Sometimes they fail at comic relief; often they aren't realistic.  But they come part and parcel with grand adventure stories, and sometimes they do work.  What grinds my gears is when they become dangerously clumsy liabilities that are tolerated with only expressions of mild annoyance, especially when there's no legitimate reason to keep them around.  As long as Willie wasn't going to show her goods, they should've left her behind in Shanghai.  Or at least tied her to a tree in the village.

Kids usually make movies suck, but you could do a lot worse than Short Round.


Short Round at least redeemed himself, somewhat, when he says "Indy, I love you" before hitting him with the torch to snap him out of the Black Sleep of Kali, followed up with him and Indy handing the other they hats. That was touching without being overly cute.

But then they had to have the bit where he knocks a half dozen Thugee like dominoes with one kick. Ugh.
 
2013-05-01 11:08:01 AM
I was expecting a mention of Bob Hoskins or the entire cast of Super Mario Brothers.
 
2013-05-01 11:13:38 AM

t3knomanser: Divorced of nostalgia, I have to be honest: Highlander is nearly unwatchable.


I never caught the Highlander bug the first time around.  My HS friends were all nuts over it but I couldn't see why beyond swordfighting.  I suppose there are enough gaps in a historical narrative that you can conclude Macleod somehow became powerful enough to beat Kurgan, but the movie doesn't develop that at all.  He fights a few duels but there isn't any sort of progression to them.  He's trains a bit, but under a mentor who loses to Kurgan centuries before the present-day arc.  It's left up to fanbois to justify how Macleod apparently accumulated enough skill to best Kurgan in combat, but the movie gives the impression that Kurgan's been doing most of the fighting while Macleod fusses about until he finally dudebros his way to victory.  I'm not asking for a Rocky montage, but Macleod didn't even seem motivated until it became a win-the-girl issue, which is a little too late to catch up to a psychopath who's enjoyed hunting skilled swordsmen for centuries.
 
2013-05-01 11:16:03 AM

Fano: gunga galunga: Mugato: gunga galunga: And since they mentioned Spielberg and Crystal Skull, they could have also included that Spielberg said he meant Last Crusade to be an apology for Temple of Doom.

Which is bullshiat, since ToD is at least as good as Last Crusade. ToD had that screeching wife of his and that dinner scene but Last Crusade was way too slapstick-y. Sallah and Marcus were drunken idiots and Indy kept falling down and making goofy faces. Raiders Indy, out of embarrassment, would have shot Last Crusade Indy like he was an A-rab brandishing a scimitar

What was wrong with the dinner scene in ToD?

And as far as Last Crusade goes, I would also throw in Indy pretending to be a Scottish interior decorator to infiltrate a Nazi stronghold. That was for me, the low point in the entire franchise until Plinkett's review of Crystal Skull convinced me that the quicksand scene was worse.

Well, the dinner scene is just a gross out sequence. My Indian fiance has never hinted that any item on the menu was ever eaten. Then again, Hollywood seemed to have the idea that Asians consider chilled monkey brains a delicacy, based on what I'll never know.


Because Asians actually do eat monkey brains.  Whether they are chilled or not, they are eaten because it is another way for Asians to get boners.  While food stuffs are cultural and should be treated as such, Asians do chow down on some bizarre stuff. You can dig around on the internet and there are articles written on the meal showing that the majority of the foodstuffs are based on fact from various cultures.

Also if your fiance was born and raised in the states(or been here most of her life), she might have no idea of some of the food that her people eat.

I am a US born Colombian, but I periodically got and live in Colombia for years at a time, and I was suprised I knew more about Colombian "delicacies" than Colombian friends in the states.

hormigas culonas - Big ass ants(literal translation) they soak them in saltwater and bake them. They say they taste like peanuts.  I have never eaten them.

eatyourworld.com


Cuy - guinea pig

pastoturista.galeon.com

Lobanillo - which means tumor, they collect tumors that grow on cattle and fry them.

My point is all cultures have gross foods and it is not a racial slur to point them out.
 
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