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2013-05-01 02:53:24 AM
We have UK trailers here... has this been released in USA yet?
 
2013-05-01 03:10:17 AM
FTFA:The actor asked him to watch an edit, and told him, "The thing we really need right now is someone who is not burdened by all the history that this thing is inheriting, who can see what we've got and tell us how to get to where we need to get."

Ok, I'll be the first come out and say it:

THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?

Also, HBO miniseries ect...
 
2013-05-01 03:17:33 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-01 04:02:19 AM
Could have been a great series. Walking Dead is fun and all but you never get to see the world outside the central Georgia zombie apocalypse. Having a show that went to Prague or Berlin or Australia every week could be pretty awesome if someone was smart enough to figure out how to do it.
 
2013-05-01 04:18:55 AM
I may buy a copy on DVD to pee on it.
 
2013-05-01 05:11:06 AM
They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.
 
2013-05-01 07:11:05 AM
Imagine if you will..

A WWZ miniseries, with walking dead level effects and production quality.

Each episode is a tale from the book with some filler episodes.

At the start of each story we get a glimpse into the world after the zombie war, as the narrator travels to each location around the world to interview one of the survivors.

This leaves room for guest stars, new and upcoming actors etc.  You could stretch out the material to about 2 full seasons...

Naaaaaaaah, lets just but the rights to the name, and go ZOMBIE FLASH FLOOD!
 
2013-05-01 07:15:54 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.


They didn't decide if the zombies would be fast (28 Days Later) or shuffling, a la Romero, until two weeks before filming began.
 
2013-05-01 07:17:39 AM

Fark It: ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.

They didn't decide if the zombies would be fast (28 Days Later) or shuffling, a la Romero, until two weeks before filming began.


wow.
 
2013-05-01 07:41:10 AM
I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.
 
2013-05-01 07:44:47 AM

DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.


Bingo.
 
2013-05-01 07:49:27 AM

elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.


Come on now, you must admit his previous works such as the storyline of "Lost" are storytelling masterpie......

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Ok I couldn't finish that sentence.
 
2013-05-01 08:28:37 AM
You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.
 
2013-05-01 08:30:49 AM
Total Movie Fail.
 
2013-05-01 08:31:04 AM
I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.
 
2013-05-01 08:31:10 AM
"But when we started working on the script, a lot of that stuff had to fall away for the story to come together."

Trans: we kept the 'there are zombies' part, and then discarded everything that made the book great.
 
2013-05-01 08:31:52 AM

Raharu: Imagine if you will..

A WWZ miniseries, with walking dead level effects and production quality.

Each episode is a tale from the book with some filler episodes.

At the start of each story we get a glimpse into the world after the zombie war, as the narrator travels to each location around the world to interview one of the survivors.

This leaves room for guest stars, new and upcoming actors etc.  You could stretch out the material to about 2 full seasons...

Naaaaaaaah, lets just but the rights to the name, and go ZOMBIE FLASH FLOOD!


I'm with you, or at least make it like the book. Ya, one more movie I want see in a theater. Sad really.
 
2013-05-01 08:32:31 AM

LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.


Heh. I enjoyed the book, and it was good in some parts but this is pretty accurate.
 
2013-05-01 08:33:37 AM
Well, one mustn't offend China.
 
2013-05-01 08:33:50 AM
WWZ was a mildly interesting book, but it is so poorly written that I'm not surprised about the way the movie is turning out. It's like max Brooks learned everything about weapons from call of duty.
 
2013-05-01 08:33:52 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.


Not to mention, when you know what things are supposed to mean, and supposed to symbolize, and what actors are supposed to be thinking in scenes, an ending can make sense on paper.  Then you actually see what the audience sees and realize they are going to be confused and angry.
 
2013-05-01 08:34:34 AM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Total Movie Fail.


Oh! The one with Colin Farrel? I totally loved that one!
 
2013-05-01 08:35:24 AM
Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.
 
2013-05-01 08:35:56 AM

TeDDD: "But when we started working on the script, a lot of that stuff had to fall away for the story to come together."

Trans: we kept the 'there are zombies' part, and then discarded everything that made the book great.


More likely, they realized it wasn't a single-person narrative that allowed Pitt to show his abs for 90 minutes. He's a good actor, but narcissistic as all hell.
 
2013-05-01 08:37:29 AM
Hollywood messes up a really good book? That's unpossible!
 
2013-05-01 08:38:05 AM

LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.


Hey cmon, it had potential. Just because someone cooks a chicken patty and slaps it on a bun doesn't mean you can't take that same idea and spruce it up with some Wasabi Mayo, Spinich Leaves, etc.. and turn it into something better.

Apparently though here they decided to replace the patty with shiat and call it gourmet.
 
2013-05-01 08:38:26 AM
I like zombie movies. I even recently watched Osombie. All of it.

I'll just close my eyes when the title rolls and move on. It's not World War Z, it's just a fast-zombie movie with Brad Pitt. Ok.
 
2013-05-01 08:38:37 AM
I remember an Elaine May quote along the lines of "If as many people had seen Ishtar as criticized it I'd be rich."

Even Gary Larson apologized for using Ishtar as the one video in hell's video store.
 
2013-05-01 08:39:47 AM

medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.


It was bloated, too long, and I think the fact that it was a riff on those old Bing Crosby and Bob Hope "Road" movies was lost on most people. Charles Grodin was hilarious in it.
 
2013-05-01 08:40:10 AM
Is it too late for the production team to add lots of naked Angelina Jolie scenes to the crapfest that will be 'World War Z'?

/ preferably of a 10 year younger Angelina.
 
2013-05-01 08:41:37 AM
shiat... You can't buy a region 1 copy of Ishtar... It's still being suppressed.
 
2013-05-01 08:42:05 AM
Bullshiat. Somebody didn't like the ending.
 
2013-05-01 08:42:19 AM
The problem with taking world war z and making a movie without the documentary format is... well, that the documentary format was literally the only interesting thing about the book.  There wasn't really a developed story, and the characters and zombies certainly weren't original, and the writing itself was hardly brilliant.

The implied joke of people looking back on zombie silliness as a history channel special was pretty much the whole deal.  Which was fun, because other zombie movies sort of keep the scale down due to zombies not being very threatening when there are more than a few protagonists.
 
2013-05-01 08:43:12 AM

Raharu: elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.

Come on now, you must admit his previous works such as the storyline of "Lost" are storytelling masterpie......

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Ok I couldn't finish that sentence.


I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.
 
2013-05-01 08:44:32 AM

Nuclear Monk: I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.


The Asylum will surely release their own zombie movie around the time this comes out... and I'll be honest. Their last zombie movie was... one of the best zombie movies I've ever seen. Sure it had low production values, but the story was good, the characters were good, and most of all... at no point in the movie did someone do something absolutely retarded for the sake of plot progression.
"Hello new people. Everyone strip at gunpoint, we're doing a bite check before we welcome you into the group."
"As a new member of the group, please cut off that long hair, ditch the heels, and we're going to a sporting goods store to get you some better clothes and equipment."
ETC.
 
2013-05-01 08:44:46 AM

LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.


duffblue: WWZ was a mildly interesting book, but it is so poorly written that I'm not surprised about the way the movie is turning out. It's like max Brooks learned everything about weapons from call of duty.


this makes zero sense. especially since they are barely following the story/s from the book.
 
2013-05-01 08:45:38 AM
Ignoring the fact that the Zombies are "fast-movers" which annoy me on general principle, but I can overlook it.  The First two paragraphs talk about how wonderful the book was looking at it on a global scale, and then when it comes to the movie, they had to remove all that, making this your standard run-of-the-mill Zombie movie.  I'll just stick with Romero's Night of the Living Dead and Walking Dead for that storyline, thanks
 
2013-05-01 08:46:00 AM
don't most movies nowadays get made with the thought that if it bombs it will just be made up on video/rental?
 
2013-05-01 08:46:21 AM

Shadowknight: FTFA:The actor asked him to watch an edit, and told him, "The thing we really need right now is someone who is not burdened by all the history that this thing is inheriting, who can see what we've got and tell us how to get to where we need to get."

Ok, I'll be the first come out and say it:

THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?

Also, HBO miniseries ect...


And yet, this abomination will make over $500MM globally and will produce a sequel starring Gywneth Paltrow, Justin Bieber as her son and Will Smith's kid killing super zombies with Kung Fu
 
2013-05-01 08:46:35 AM

Nabb1: LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.

Heh. I enjoyed the book, and it was good in some parts but this is pretty accurate.


This.  I loved the book, but that's an accurate description.
 
2013-05-01 08:46:53 AM

Jim_Callahan: The problem with taking world war z and making a movie without the documentary format is... well, that the documentary format was literally the only interesting thing about the book.  There wasn't really a developed story, and the characters and zombies certainly weren't original, and the writing itself was hardly brilliant.

The implied joke of people looking back on zombie silliness as a history channel special was pretty much the whole deal.  Which was fun, because other zombie movies sort of keep the scale down due to zombies not being very threatening when there are more than a few protagonists.


That was one of the best strengths of the book. Each of the stories was just long enough to introduce someone, tell their story, and by the time you were just starting to notice flaws in the story... it moves on to another story. WWZ was not written as a novel, it was a collection of short stories sharing a common theme. It would have made an amazing miniseries, but not a full-length movie about a single protagonist.
I knew it was going to bomb the moment they showed that it 'starred' someone.
 
2013-05-01 08:47:01 AM
Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-01 08:47:15 AM

Fark It: ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.

They didn't decide if the zombies would be fast (28 Days Later) or shuffling, a la Romero, until two weeks before filming began.


I don't understand why it would even be a question.  The book (and the Survival Guide) explicitly state that the zombies are slow and ambling.  Why change it?  The entire point of the battle of Yonkers was that the zombies are slow and horrific and will eventually overrun you if all you're relying on are big, flashy explosions instead of effective tactics.  And then later, with proper strategy, they were able to use that to their advantage.
 
2013-05-01 08:47:43 AM

elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.


Nailed it.

When I hear about things like this...movies with huge budgets that have no direction (or an ending) that start shooting anyway...it just pisses the latent filmmaker in me off. I would kill for 1% of that budget, and I have a completed script and storyboard ready to go.
 
2013-05-01 08:47:47 AM
I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.
 
2013-05-01 08:48:34 AM

Facetious_Speciest: I like zombie movies. I even recently watched Osombie. All of it.

I'll just close my eyes when the title rolls and move on. It's not World War Z, it's just a fast-zombie movie with Brad Pitt. Ok.


So how was it? the Osambie one I mean? And yea I'll watch it when it comes out on a channel I get or Netflix.
 
2013-05-01 08:50:17 AM

lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]


That's not real is it? Oh my : (
 
2013-05-01 08:52:27 AM
Major difference here.   Ishtar was heavily reliant on dialogue, full of American slang and context, between the two main characters and as such its meaning was lost on the foreign viewer.

Here, who the hell needs to understand the nuances of American idioms?  It's all action driven and will do very well with the worldwide audiences.

As bad as it may turn out being, I guarantee you they will get their money back on this one.

But I do like the idea of watching the Asylum version that will inevitably pop-up a week or two before release, my kiddo (age 12) and I always get a kick out of those.
 
2013-05-01 08:52:39 AM

lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]


LOL
 
2013-05-01 08:52:54 AM
Goddamnit. I have been looking forward to seeing this since I saw the first trailer.
Is Hollywood incapable of producing a good movie anymore?
 
2013-05-01 08:53:33 AM

stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.


notsureifserious.jpg
 
2013-05-01 08:53:49 AM

Fark It: ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.

They didn't decide if the zombies would be fast (28 Days Later) or shuffling, a la Romero, until two weeks before filming began.


And our course they chose the option that was the opposite of what made that book so creepy. The inevitable, yet slow, tide of the undead.
 
2013-05-01 08:54:11 AM
Good, maybe the self absorbed will stop making shiatty movies from OK books.  WWZ was a pretty gripping read as written.

Bred Pitt.  Geez us.
 
2013-05-01 08:54:23 AM

Raharu: Imagine if you will..

A WWZ miniseries, with walking dead level effects and production quality.

Each episode is a tale from the book with some filler episodes.

At the start of each story we get a glimpse into the world after the zombie war, as the narrator travels to each location around the world to interview one of the survivors.

This leaves room for guest stars, new and upcoming actors etc.  You could stretch out the material to about 2 full seasons...

Naaaaaaaah, lets just but the rights to the name, and go ZOMBIE FLASH FLOOD!


And the Clerks animated series could have been as good as or better than Family Guy if Kevin Smith had gone to Showtime or HBO.  He got lured into dealing with ABC because they were a network; if you've been dealing with independent or low-profile companies for years, and suddenly one of the Big Three knocks on your door, it's hard to see past the potential.  And what we ended up with was six episodes (of which only two aired).

That being said, if you have an interesting creative property this is an age where you should know you can find ways of maintaining creative control.  Either Brooks got blinded by the shine on Paramount's logo, or he was willing to forgo creative control for the rights and (presumably he was smart enough to demand) a percentage of the gross.  There's also the possibility he genuinely like the initial pitch, considering Strazynski was the screenwriter.
 
2013-05-01 08:54:44 AM
The moment they turned the zombies into weird....rolling things, I knew it was going to have some bizarre problems. There are times when taking liberty on portraying the story from the source material actually works (like Walking Dead), but there are times when you really don't have to do it for the sake of being able to say "This is our spin on the story just because everyone's doing so!".
 
2013-05-01 08:55:24 AM

Bishniak: Ignoring the fact that the Zombies are "fast-movers" which annoy me on general principle, but I can overlook it.  The First two paragraphs talk about how wonderful the book was looking at it on a global scale, and then when it comes to the movie, they had to remove all that, making this your standard run-of-the-mill Zombie movie.  I'll just stick with Romero's Night of the Living Dead and Walking Dead for that storyline, thanks


You can't have slow-moving zombies if you are going to show the zombies taking over the Earth,  Because the audience isn't going to believe a group of slow moving, unarmored, unintelligent human with poor motor skills and no organization are going to be able to end civilization.  Because they couldn't.  Honestly, I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than I would a dozen slow zombies.

Slow zombies only work if you skip ahead to after the apocalypse and you have hordes against small groups of people.
 
2013-05-01 08:55:39 AM
I hope that the book can find it's way to the big screen yet.  Hell, there's a good movie in the Reddiker plan alone.
 
2013-05-01 08:55:45 AM

medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.


I just heard Vernon A. Reid on a podcast yesterday say "there are no really bad movies.  Except for Ishtar.  That was really bad."
 
2013-05-01 08:55:55 AM
 " Zombie Gili "


Which makes it sound like some Blacksploitation (also "Blaxploitation") film of the '70's.
 
2013-05-01 08:57:17 AM

elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.


who?
 
2013-05-01 08:58:23 AM

Skail: I don't understand why it would even be a question. The book (and the Survival Guide) explicitly state that the zombies are slow and ambling. Why change it? The entire point of the battle of Yonkers was that the zombies are slow and horrific and will eventually overrun you if all you're relying on are big, flashy explosions instead of effective tactics. And then later, with proper strategy, they were able to use that to their advantage.


Which is kind of stupid, because it seems to ignore how pressure waves/concussive force works.

The big, flashy explosions from artillery shells? Wouuulllddd probably pulp zombie brains from the concussive force. I mean, we're getting traumatic brain injuries from vets who aren't even directly hit by IED's, but just thrown around a bit, and those are small-potatoes explosions compared to some of the stuff the military would have at their disposal-I would think artillery would actually be *VERY EFFECTIVE* at thinning out a dense hoard. Even better if you could fire in a noise maker to get them to concentrate before throwing in a heavier explosive.
 
2013-05-01 08:58:26 AM
fta: "I was like, 'To be honest with you, good luck selling that to Paramount.'"

and then, like I told Brad, dude, the film is like really narly.
 
2013-05-01 08:58:27 AM
tinfoil-hat maggie

It's amusing to laugh at sometimes, and it has zombies. My wife hates zombie movies, but she enjoyed mocking it. Win/win.

It suffers from the usual failings of the genre/production value...several of the zombies keep reappearing in scene after scene, the "special forces" people are moronic*, it could have been written by the local high school drama club...but you know how it is.

* typical scene: talk about how bad-ass you are, then suddenly zombies appear from nowhere and kill someone...and no one noticed the shambling corpses coming from all directions, or the one two feet behind you under a tumbleweed...
 
2013-05-01 08:58:40 AM

Securitywyrm: Nuclear Monk: I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.

The Asylum will surely release their own zombie movie around the time this comes out... and I'll be honest. Their last zombie movie was... one of the best zombie movies I've ever seen. Sure it had low production values, but the story was good, the characters were good, and most of all... at no point in the movie did someone do something absolutely retarded for the sake of plot progression.
"Hello new people. Everyone strip at gunpoint, we're doing a bite check before we welcome you into the group."
"As a new member of the group, please cut off that long hair, ditch the heels, and we're going to a sporting goods store to get you some better clothes and equipment."
ETC.


Got a title on that one? I gave up on Asylum for a while after their Sherlock Holmes rip-off had a velociraptor in it, but you pique my interest.
 
2013-05-01 09:00:58 AM

ruta: stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.

notsureifserious.jpg


Harry Knowles is the embodiment of everything that's aggravated me about fantasy/sci-fi/comic/geek fanboys.  I'd have less resentment towards Comic Book Guy were he a real person.
 
2013-05-01 09:01:20 AM

stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.


Or the check cleared (or exclusive coverage granted).

/Which new Star Wars movie was supposed to blow our minds?
 
2013-05-01 09:02:58 AM
The other day I was moaning about how Hollywood is getting all my money this summer ... but after reading the plot spoilers for Star Trek Into Darkness, and now reading that World War Z was written by Damon Lindelof, I'm starting to see where I can save some money.
 
2013-05-01 09:03:23 AM
Slow zombies are social commentary. Fast zombies are for action movies. They are designed to appeal to the same people that enjoy the Transformers movies.
 
2013-05-01 09:03:32 AM
All they had to do was not use the title "World War Z" and this whole project would have been better received. It's sort of like they're making a Superman movie, but calling it Spider-Man. That being said, I'll go see it. I love zombie movies (fast and slow) and I like most Brad Pitt movies. I think I'll ultimately be OK with this.
 
2013-05-01 09:03:53 AM

Moopy Mac: And our course they chose the option that was the opposite of what made that book so creepy. The inevitable, yet slow, tide of the undead.


And that you were likely to lose to this shuffling tide of morons.
 
2013-05-01 09:05:19 AM

MagSeven: All they had to do was not use the title "World War Z" and this whole project would have been better received. It's sort of like they're making a Superman movie, but calling it Spider-Man. That being said, I'll go see it. I love zombie movies (fast and slow) and I like most Brad Pitt movies. I think I'll ultimately be OK with this.


Also, this zombie on crack vibe could work really well if those things were big armored bugs.
 
2013-05-01 09:05:25 AM

Mr. Cat Poop: Securitywyrm: Nuclear Monk: I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.

The Asylum will surely release their own zombie movie around the time this comes out... and I'll be honest. Their last zombie movie was... one of the best zombie movies I've ever seen. Sure it had low production values, but the story was good, the characters were good, and most of all... at no point in the movie did someone do something absolutely retarded for the sake of plot progression.
"Hello new people. Everyone strip at gunpoint, we're doing a bite check before we welcome you into the group."
"As a new member of the group, please cut off that long hair, ditch the heels, and we're going to a sporting goods store to get you some better clothes and equipment."
ETC.

Got a title on that one? I gave up on Asylum for a while after their Sherlock Holmes rip-off had a velociraptor in it, but you pique my interest.


I think it's Zombie Apocalypse. It's OK if you're somewhat inebriated.
 
2013-05-01 09:05:38 AM

lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]


Is that a zombie cat?
 
2013-05-01 09:09:22 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
It's a travest-Z
 
2013-05-01 09:09:51 AM

Facetious_Speciest: tinfoil-hat maggie

It's amusing to laugh at sometimes, and it has zombies. My wife hates zombie movies, but she enjoyed mocking it. Win/win.

It suffers from the usual failings of the genre/production value...several of the zombies keep reappearing in scene after scene, the "special forces" people are moronic*, it could have been written by the local high school drama club...but you know how it is.

* typical scene: talk about how bad-ass you are, then suddenly zombies appear from nowhere and kill someone...and no one noticed the shambling corpses coming from all directions, or the one two feet behind you under a tumbleweed...


Oh, damn those are the best, yea I was young in the '80's and they used to play they best worst horror movies : ) I'll have to check it out when I'm in the mood.
Dead video or something like that is also really fun it's Romero so. But I don't think it's on Netflix right now.
 
2013-05-01 09:10:02 AM
Im sure the ending was changed to the following: most of the cast is dead, but they feel they have finally beaten the zombies once and for all and they all relax, then you suddenly see a zombie hand grab hold of one of them.  TA DA!  Same crappy ending pretty much every zombie movie ever has.  I even understand why they do it.  For some reason that's the ending zombie movie fans want every time.
 
2013-05-01 09:10:47 AM

Shadowknight: FTFA:The actor asked him to watch an edit, and told him, "The thing we really need right now is someone who is not burdened by all the history that this thing is inheriting, who can see what we've got and tell us how to get to where we need to get."

Ok, I'll be the first come out and say it:

THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?


No, this is about Pitt bringing Lindelhof in to do the rewrite.  That comment is a ponderous way of saying "we need an objective opinion."
 
2013-05-01 09:12:07 AM

This may as well be the thread to share this in.


Did you enjoy Dexter?


Like the walking dead show and comic?


Then this book could be for you.  It's Dexter meets the walking dead.


Undead Situation.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Undead-Situation-Eloise-Knapp/dp/19348615 88



It's the writers first book, I picked it up when it was just 1$ on the barnes and noble ebook store. I enjoyed it so much, that I picked up the audiobook version from audible.

B&N Link

It's pretty good.

 
2013-05-01 09:12:22 AM

fonebone77: Im sure the ending was changed to the following: most of the cast is dead, but they feel they have finally beaten the zombies once and for all and they all relax, then you suddenly see a zombie hand grab hold of one of them.  TA DA!  Same crappy ending pretty much every zombie movie ever has.  I even understand why they do it.  For some reason that's the ending zombie movie fans want every time.


I have never seen a zombie movie end like that. Not a single one. Name one.
 
2013-05-01 09:12:24 AM
This movie is the headshot that will kill the zombie genre.
 
2013-05-01 09:13:47 AM

Subdue their bellies: This movie is the headshot that will kill the zombie genre.



It could indeed.
 
2013-05-01 09:18:17 AM

MagSeven: fonebone77: Im sure the ending was changed to the following: most of the cast is dead, but they feel they have finally beaten the zombies once and for all and they all relax, then you suddenly see a zombie hand grab hold of one of them.  TA DA!  Same crappy ending pretty much every zombie movie ever has.  I even understand why they do it.  For some reason that's the ending zombie movie fans want every time.

I have never seen a zombie movie end like that. Not a single one. Name one.


Maybe not specifically with the hand, but there is always the weak turn where you know there are still more zombies and the survivors are still screwed.  I know its partially hollywood's penchant for leaving movies open ended, but its just cheezy.
 
2013-05-01 09:19:15 AM
At least the movie will get us the extended audiobook
 
2013-05-01 09:20:51 AM
This is Brad Pitt's "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen".
 
2013-05-01 09:22:45 AM

MagSeven: All they had to do was not use the title "World War Z" and this whole project would have been better received. It's sort of like they're making a Superman movie, but calling it Spider-Man. That being said, I'll go see it. I love zombie movies (fast and slow) and I like most Brad Pitt movies. I think I'll ultimately be OK with this.


This. I will just have to separate the movie from the book. Is it going to be a canon zombie flick? No. Is it going to be true to the book? No. But it will be fun to go watch it at the drive in. Popcorn flick. Not every movie is going to be another Citizen Kane or Shawshank Redemption. And that's ok.
 
2013-05-01 09:23:11 AM

Shadowknight: FTFA:The actor asked him to watch an edit, and told him, "The thing we really need right now is someone who is not burdened by all the history that this thing is inheriting, who can see what we've got and tell us how to get to where we need to get."

Ok, I'll be the first come out and say it:

THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?

Also, HBO miniseries ect...


PItt meant "all the history of the project, the shoot, etc. We need someone who isn't part of the project to look at it objectively".
 
2013-05-01 09:23:40 AM

Raharu: Subdue their bellies: This movie is the headshot that will kill the zombie genre.

It could indeed.


Fingers crossed.
 
2013-05-01 09:24:11 AM

Raharu: Subdue their bellies: This movie is the headshot that will kill the zombie genre.


It could indeed.


But probably not, This movie may die in the box office but it will be watched and well there's so many movies out there, I mean "Otto, or up with dead people"? It's become more than Romero ever envisioned.
 
2013-05-01 09:24:20 AM

mccoma: At least the movie will get us the extended audiobook



I farking hope so.

The abridged audio book was nothing short of fantastic with all of its voice actors!
So good I went out and got the unabridged audiobook...

farkingnhell.

1 guy reading the entire book In monotone voice, like he was reading the phone book to congress to block a gay marriage bill.
 
2013-05-01 09:24:33 AM

ruta: stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.

notsureifserious.jpg



There's this too.  Scripts tend to change in the years between initial draft and final cut.  I'm not necessarily defending AICN, but five years is a long time and it's possible the original script was a lot better than this appears to be.  For example:

Fark It: They didn't decide if the zombies would be fast (28 Days Later) or shuffling, a la Romero, until two weeks before filming began.


If true, that's pretty damning.
 
Poe
2013-05-01 09:25:38 AM
I have said this before, but...

If I were Supreme Ruler of the World, I would have had the people behind this movie watch a little flick called The Man From Earth.  It's about a caveman who does not age, and the entire movie is him talking with a handful of other people about his life over the last 14,000 years.  Takes place almost entirely in one room, no CGI or flashbacks to his experiences, and it farking works, because dialogue is so well written that you forget that you are listening to a story and instead see it in your minds eye.  WWZ is written as a series of interviews, and with the right actors and set dressings, it could be done the same way.  The only actual zombies you see would be the half frozen ones in the segment with the girl who's parents took her north into Canada, and you would have to get an outstanding young actress for the feral child part, but it could be done.  With the Hollywood love of remakes, I really hope someone makes a proper WWZ a few years down the line.
 
2013-05-01 09:25:57 AM

fonebone77: Maybe not specifically with the hand, but there is always the weak turn where you know there are still more zombies and the survivors are still screwed. I know its partially hollywood's penchant for leaving movies open ended, but its just cheezy.


Heh that's pretty much the ending to every Resident Evil movie. They finally beat the "big bad" of the movie, everyone is taking a breather, then they all look up and scan all around them. Camera pans out and hundreds/thousands of bad guys are about to be on top of them.
 
2013-05-01 09:26:25 AM

LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.


This movie will turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to that book. If it's as terrible as people think it will be, they can say that the book was better and be right despite the book being pretty bad to begin with.
 
2013-05-01 09:26:36 AM

stuhayes2010: I loved the book. It was a fun read. I don't hold much hope for the movie, but according to Wiki:

Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.


AICN. That's cute. If you will recall, Harry Knowles wrote a review of Blade 2 in which he described the experience of watching that movie - at great length and in explicit and overwrought detail - to the filmmakers performing cunnilingus on the audience. Seriously. Totally NSFW: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/11793 The contributors to that site are and have always been the hackiest bunch of navel-gazing hangers-on that ever hacked a hack.
 
2013-05-01 09:30:07 AM

fonebone77: MagSeven: fonebone77: Im sure the ending was changed to the following: most of the cast is dead, but they feel they have finally beaten the zombies once and for all and they all relax, then you suddenly see a zombie hand grab hold of one of them.  TA DA!  Same crappy ending pretty much every zombie movie ever has.  I even understand why they do it.  For some reason that's the ending zombie movie fans want every time.

I have never seen a zombie movie end like that. Not a single one. Name one.

Maybe not specifically with the hand, but there is always the weak turn where you know there are still more zombies and the survivors are still screwed.  I know its partially hollywood's penchant for leaving movies open ended, but its just cheezy.


Ah. I get you. They do have a tendency to leave the door wide open for more.
 
2013-05-01 09:31:14 AM

stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.


A) It's AICN, so don't put too much stock in it

B) It's from 2008! That's 5 farking years ago. In movie production time that might as well be two completely separate movies. Who knows, maybe the 2008 script kicked ass, but I can guarantee that is not what's about to disgrace the theaters.
 
2013-05-01 09:32:55 AM
I liked the book but it has narrative issues that would have to be overcome to adapt it to fit the big screen. The most obvious one is everything is in the book is in the past tense and the "hero" is a bureaucrat writing down the recollections of other people. It would be like filming Band of Brothers where the hero was Stephen Ambrose. So it would have to be fit into the present and the number of characters and subplots whittled down to fit the time the movie had to tell the tale. But it could still capture the essence of the book and do it in a very scary way.

But what this film appears to be from the trailers is an absolute mockery of the book in every respect. CG physics defying swarms of zombies, bloodless PG-13 action and lots of Brad Pitt heroically doing nothing remotely related to the book. Looks like a frigging disaster from that point of view.

That said, maybe few people care that it's not like the book or even that there was a book. It's zombies and explosions and Brad! I won't be queuing up to see it though unless the reviews suggest it has some redeemable qualities of its own.
 
2013-05-01 09:35:19 AM

Poe: I have said this before, but...

If I were Supreme Ruler of the World, I would have had the people behind this movie watch a little flick called The Man From Earth.  It's about a caveman who does not age, and the entire movie is him talking with a handful of other people about his life over the last 14,000 years.  Takes place almost entirely in one room, no CGI or flashbacks to his experiences, and it farking works, because dialogue is so well written that you forget that you are listening to a story and instead see it in your minds eye.  WWZ is written as a series of interviews, and with the right actors and set dressings, it could be done the same way.  The only actual zombies you see would be the half frozen ones in the segment with the girl who's parents took her north into Canada, and you would have to get an outstanding young actress for the feral child part, but it could be done.  With the Hollywood love of remakes, I really hope someone makes a proper WWZ a few years down the line.


Wait that's the one where they're in a cabin and.... Oh, hell yea loved that, granted I don't see it working for WWZ but, well a more understated style could be cool.
 
2013-05-01 09:36:24 AM
Having not read the books... only hearing about them...  from what I've heard, everyone thought ahead of time that it would be a very difficult book to adapt to a movie due to its format.  So I can only assume that they were struggling to find a good way to wrap things up in a way that would make sense for film, and then it came time to start principle, so they had to either a) postpone everything until they finalize the script (which means the project is almost all but dead) or b) Start it up with the hopes that you will figure it out at some point.

I'll reserve judgement until someone actually WATCHES the film rather than hearing the stories about the making....  no one likes to see how their sausage is made.
 
2013-05-01 09:37:10 AM

FLMountainMan: Bishniak: Ignoring the fact that the Zombies are "fast-movers" which annoy me on general principle, but I can overlook it.  The First two paragraphs talk about how wonderful the book was looking at it on a global scale, and then when it comes to the movie, they had to remove all that, making this your standard run-of-the-mill Zombie movie.  I'll just stick with Romero's Night of the Living Dead and Walking Dead for that storyline, thanks

You can't have slow-moving zombies if you are going to show the zombies taking over the Earth,  Because the audience isn't going to believe a group of slow moving, unarmored, unintelligent human with poor motor skills and no organization are going to be able to end civilization.  Because they couldn't.  Honestly, I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than I would a dozen slow zombies.

Slow zombies only work if you skip ahead to after the apocalypse and you have hordes against small groups of people.


I think it depends on how it's done.  We're looking at it with the eyes of those who know about zombies and how zombies 'work' etc.

Think if this happened in real life, and had say a 15-30 day incubation period where they're still carriers but not yet zombies.  Or worse, could spread via bodily fluids prior to zombifying.

The first cases no one would know what it was.  We'd all just think it was a new bird flu, or some fever or something.  Meanwhile we're trying to treat these people in hospitals.  Maybe before symptoms begin showing people are transmitting it via sex or kissing, or blood donation.  Maybe symptoms don't show at all until like 1 day before they die and come back.  In this scenario we don't know who is infected, and it could easily infect huge amounts of the population before we even know what it is, that it's incurable, and causes zombies.  We wouldn't kill the first people to zombify.  We'd be trying to help them, and treat them.  We'd think they're just going crazy or something, meanwhile another x number of people are infected by him.  And on it goes.

The premise relies on the idea that a huge percentage of the population is infected (but not yet zombied) in order to work.  And that a large number of the survivors are infected by the new zombies due to not knowing how to react or respond to the zombies when they do rise.  Then when those guys go down all we have left is our small and outnumber survivor population vs the horde.  The problem is most movies seem to do the '10-15 minutes from infection you become a zombie' thing.  The deadliest diseases in history are the ones that incubate for a long time since that's the time needed for it to spread.  Otherwise it burns out too fast, killing the host before it gets a chance to pass on.
 
2013-05-01 09:39:52 AM

LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.


Yeah, this.  Really did not like reading this, finishing it was like eating all of a mediocre pizza just so you don't have to look at half a pizza sitting out cold the next day.

/The Chinese generals, Indian villagers, European snobs all sounded like Americans, and not particularly smart Americans either.
 
2013-05-01 09:39:59 AM

mccoma: At least the movie will get us the extended audiobook


... of the screenplay.
 
2013-05-01 09:43:42 AM

bill4935: /The Chinese generals, Indian villagers, European snobs all sounded like Americans, and not particularly smart Americans either.


That was the biggest problem: the "voice" of every interviewee was nearly identical.
 
2013-05-01 09:44:47 AM

stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.


But that was the script from five years ago. I am pretty sure that it has undergone multiple rewrites since then. They decided late in filming that they didn't like the ending, changed it, and had to reshoot. The director has also stated that he was going for a PG-13 rating and "avoided" most of the gore and blood on purpose. The movie also takes place over just a "few days" and centers on Brad's character. Brad, who is the one that has the rights to the book in movie form, also stated that he wanted to make a movie that he could show his kids. They must have left a lot of material from the book out of the movie.

I really enjoyed the book, but I think this movie is going to be a pile o' crap.
 
2013-05-01 09:45:26 AM
Lindelof wrote this? LOL.  Dude's name has been tainted forever after Prometheus.  Sounds like a clusterfark all around.  The meeting after watching the director's cut sounds like the post-viewing discussion of The Phantom Menace in Plinkett's review.
 
2013-05-01 09:45:28 AM

Mr. Cat Poop: Securitywyrm: Nuclear Monk: I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.

The Asylum will surely release their own zombie movie around the time this comes out... and I'll be honest. Their last zombie movie was... one of the best zombie movies I've ever seen. Sure it had low production values, but the story was good, the characters were good, and most of all... at no point in the movie did someone do something absolutely retarded for the sake of plot progression.
"Hello new people. Everyone strip at gunpoint, we're doing a bite check before we welcome you into the group."
"As a new member of the group, please cut off that long hair, ditch the heels, and we're going to a sporting goods store to get you some better clothes and equipment."
ETC.

Got a title on that one? I gave up on Asylum for a while after their Sherlock Holmes rip-off had a velociraptor in it, but you pique my interest.


It's called "Zombie Apocalypse"
The movie makes the very wise assumption that this isn't your first zombie movie, so they don't bother wasting the first 20 minutes explaining "THIS IS A ZOMBIE MOVIE."
Yes, the group of survivors are the 'badasses' but... this far into a zombie apocalypse, it makes sense that the zombie survivors are the badasses.
 
2013-05-01 09:48:23 AM
So, this is how the Zombie Apocalypse Hype dies... with a thunderous turd of a movie.
 
2013-05-01 09:49:50 AM

post0089: THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?


He's referring to the history of the production.
 
2013-05-01 09:52:54 AM

Raharu: Imagine if you will..

A WWZ miniseries, with walking dead level effects and production quality.

Each episode is a tale from the book with some filler episodes.

At the start of each story we get a glimpse into the world after the zombie war, as the narrator travels to each location around the world to interview one of the survivors.

This leaves room for guest stars, new and upcoming actors etc.  You could stretch out the material to about 2 full seasons...

Naaaaaaaah, lets just but the rights to the name, and go ZOMBIE FLASH FLOOD!


Heck, you could do a world-wide COLLABORATIVE mini-series, different teams all around the world doing loosely-coordinated projects.  Subtitle as appropriate...sure you'd get widely varying quality, but you could get some outstanding indie stuff as well.
 
2013-05-01 09:54:06 AM
Count me amongst those who hope that this turd of a movie kills the zombie genre for a while.
 
2013-05-01 09:59:40 AM

WMCB: TeDDD: "But when we started working on the script, a lot of that stuff had to fall away for the story to come together."

Trans: we kept the 'there are zombies' part, and then discarded everything that made the book great.

More likely, they realized it wasn't a single-person narrative that allowed Pitt to show his abs for 90 minutes. He's a good actor, but narcissistic as all hell.


This.

The story coudl come together fine without focusing on one person, but Bradly wanted it to be abotu him.
 
2013-05-01 10:00:31 AM

Raharu: mccoma: At least the movie will get us the extended audiobook


I farking hope so.

The abridged audio book was nothing short of fantastic with all of its voice actors!
So good I went out and got the unabridged audiobook...

farkingnhell.

1 guy reading the entire book In monotone voice, like he was reading the phone book to congress to block a gay marriage bill.



unabridged book
http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_2?asin=B00BIKAVHS&qid=1367416753& sr =1-2


"patch set" for the first audible edition
http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_3?asin=B00CDXKHEQ&qid=1367416753& sr =1-3
 
2013-05-01 10:01:06 AM
I'm still holding out on the Ken Burns style documentary with "found" footage interlaced through out.

Or maybe a District 9 treatment. Will never happen now. At least we have the audiobook.
 
2013-05-01 10:01:06 AM

Quinsisdos: Count me amongst those who hope that this turd of a movie kills the zombie genre for a while.


Or just knocks it back enough that people think twice about producing just any damned thing.
 
2013-05-01 10:01:21 AM

extroverted_suicide: mccoma: At least the movie will get us the extended audiobook

... of the screenplay.


nope, of the original book
 
2013-05-01 10:03:37 AM
This movie was already shot and released, under-budget at $60m, in 2011, under the title "Contagion". And it was good.
 
2013-05-01 10:04:18 AM
Obvious tag still missing subby?

The only explanation that seems logical to me is that Brad Pitt hates zombie movies so bad that he blew millions of his own dollars to effectively end the chance of any future zombie movies by making this abomination.

Or he could just be retarded.
 
2013-05-01 10:06:55 AM
orclover:

Or he could just be retarded.

I vote for this option.
 
2013-05-01 10:07:46 AM

KatjaMouse: I'm still holding out on the Ken Burns style documentary with "found" footage interlaced through out.


At this point, I could go for the African plan being told by Reddiker as a 30 min monolog.  Find a good actor, put him in a room, set the camera to record.  In the right hands it would cost beans and be phenominal.  I'm saying we go with Tom Hardy.  He did a fantastic job with the guy in jail thing in Bronson.
 
2013-05-01 10:09:04 AM

Moopy Mac: stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.

Or the check cleared (or exclusive coverage granted).


Or as Penny Arcade put it, "I wrapped the script around a Snickers bar."

/Which new Star Wars movie was supposed to blow our minds?

I thought that was Wing Commander.
 
2013-05-01 10:09:25 AM

orclover: Obvious tag still missing subby?

The only explanation that seems logical to me is that Brad Pitt hates zombie movies so bad that he blew millions of his own dollars to effectively end the chance of any future zombie movies by making this abomination.

Or he could just be retarded.


There was a rumor going around that he and DiCaprio got into a bidding war over the rights to the book. DiCaprio actually wanted to make a movie that held true to the book, but Pitt just wanted to say fark you and completely destroy it because he could.

At least that's what I choose to believe.
 
2013-05-01 10:10:02 AM

mccoma: Raharu: mccoma: At least the movie will get us the extended audiobook


I farking hope so.

The abridged audio book was nothing short of fantastic with all of its voice actors!
So good I went out and got the unabridged audiobook...

farkingnhell.

1 guy reading the entire book In monotone voice, like he was reading the phone book to congress to block a gay marriage bill.


unabridged book
http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_2?asin=B00BIKAVHS&qid=1367416753& sr =1-2


"patch set" for the first audible edition
http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_3?asin=B00CDXKHEQ&qid=1367416753& sr =1-3



farking awesome! I've preordered the lost files right now!
 
2013-05-01 10:10:22 AM
That's what you get for destroying the source material that could have made for an incredible movie, you bastards.

Sadly, I know I'll go see it anyway.
 
2013-05-01 10:11:08 AM

fireclown: KatjaMouse: I'm still holding out on the Ken Burns style documentary with "found" footage interlaced through out.

At this point, I could go for the African plan being told by Reddiker as a 30 min monolog.  Find a good actor, put him in a room, set the camera to record.  In the right hands it would cost beans and be phenominal.  I'm saying we go with Tom Hardy.  He did a fantastic job with the guy in jail thing in Bronson.


Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?
 
2013-05-01 10:11:55 AM

LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.


Hilarious, coming from someone who can't create a profile without egregious spelling errors.


\You sound biggoted.
 
2013-05-01 10:14:27 AM

BMFPitt: That's what you get for destroying the source material that could have made for an incredible movie, you bastards.

Sadly, I know I'll go see it anyway.


Buy a ticket to another movie, then walk in the war z.
 
2013-05-01 10:15:21 AM

Maud Dib: LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.

Hilarious, coming from someone who can't create a profile without egregious spelling errors.


\You sound biggoted.


Dude....
 
2013-05-01 10:16:01 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]

That's not real is it? Oh my : (


I just googled it. This is sadly not a real poster.
 
2013-05-01 10:18:24 AM
I don't get how they would have needed to change the ending. The ending was we won, then the rest of the book is a series of flashbacks via the interviews. Have the narrator explain that in the first few minutes of the movie, show the most interesting scenes from an audience's perspective, then at the end, show the narrator compiling WWZ into a compendium and zoom out to him sitting in the world's last library in front of a huge WWZ encyclopedia

It could be very similar to the ending to "The Book of Eli"
 
2013-05-01 10:18:30 AM

Maud Dib: LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.

Hilarious, coming from someone who can't create a profile without egregious spelling errors.


\You sound biggoted


Speaking of spelling errors...
 
2013-05-01 10:20:41 AM

brandent: elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.

who?


The guy who ruined Lost and Prometheus.

Having him as a screenwriter is the equivalent of a movie getting cancer.
 
2013-05-01 10:21:28 AM

Milo Minderbinder: Raharu: elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.

Come on now, you must admit his previous works such as the storyline of "Lost" are storytelling masterpie......

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Ok I couldn't finish that sentence.

I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.


After seeing Prometheus I'm becoming of the same mind, thank God he jumped off the sequel (although by now it might be too late).  I REALLY hope he didn't pollute the new Star Trek movie too badly.
 
2013-05-01 10:22:58 AM
could slow zombies actually cause an Apocalypse?

Sure.


Why? They are so slow! and stupid! and avoidable! For those of us in fly over states or the south, sure, no problem. Stay in your car, hit the gas. Whats the issue?

major metro areas reliant on open public transport? You'd be boned. Why? One person zombifies on a subway car and bites 6-12. If talking a fast-progression for most people then you could look at the entire car turning before you get to the next station. Slow? Then people are going to wander off for the first week or two and turn all over the city. Even after authorities get on the ball what do you have? Mass trans works because of orderly volume. City would grind to a halt if you tried isolation protocols. Even in DC train cars frequently end up standing room only during peak volume. No space to defend yourself, no room to evade, and nothing handy to brain the recently-zombified even if you weren't on peak.

Now you've successfully closed the major ports and have a multi-million shuffling army to spread across the midlands. Welcome to economy collapse and zombie domination.
 
2013-05-01 10:23:24 AM

lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]


I laughed.
 
2013-05-01 10:23:34 AM

KatjaMouse: tinfoil-hat maggie: lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]

That's not real is it? Oh my : (

I just googled it. This is sadly not a real poster.


I don't know what to believe, now.
 
2013-05-01 10:23:45 AM

Felgraf: Which is kind of stupid, because it seems to ignore how pressure waves/concussive force works.

The big, flashy explosions from artillery shells? Wouuulllddd probably pulp zombie brains from the concussive force.


If you go w/ Romero zombies, they don't die of shock. Brooks added that his tend not to be impressed by fire, which was the second easiest way to deal w/ a Romero zombie.
 
2013-05-01 10:25:09 AM

medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.


Agreed.

'World War Z' sounds like a re-play of 'Heaven's Gate' rather 'Ishtar'.
 
2013-05-01 10:28:05 AM

drxym: The most obvious one is everything is in the book is in the past tense and the "hero" is a bureaucrat writing down the recollections of other people.


So... basically every episode of Law & Order?

They've milked, what, 80 TV years out of that and its spin-offs?
 
2013-05-01 10:31:59 AM

KatjaMouse: fireclown: KatjaMouse: I'm still holding out on the Ken Burns style documentary with "found" footage interlaced through out.

At this point, I could go for the African plan being told by Reddiker as a 30 min monolog.  Find a good actor, put him in a room, set the camera to record.  In the right hands it would cost beans and be phenominal.  I'm saying we go with Tom Hardy.  He did a fantastic job with the guy in jail thing in Bronson.

Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?


There is only one way to do the part of Reddiker in the right setting.  Nelson farking Mandela.  For the first 45 minutes, never show his face, just his back, his side with face obscured slightly by a plant or something, his voice, his traditional robe.  A nurse or 5 standing by doting on him, caring for him like they were caring for their beloved father.  Big black farking Masai brothers in nurse garb mothering him.  He talks for the entire episode, shiat a seasons worth of episodes about the reddiker plan and how that poor old white guy, that insane genius's plan saved the human race.  What it did to Reddikers mind, how sad the old leader was at toll it took on his good friend Reddikerss mind.  He weeps as he explains it to the reporter.
Last 30 seconds of the episode/wholedamnseason......
Camera pulls around with nelson mandella still talking:
t2.gstatic.com
still talking to the interviewer....some giant black guy (maybe Shaq) puts a bib on him and starts feeding him carringly as the camera pulls out slowly and away from the hospital and into the sky.....


fark you brad pitt.  fark you right in the jolie hole.
 
2013-05-01 10:32:59 AM

Nuclear Monk: I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.


From the sounds of this; it's likely to be better.
 
2013-05-01 10:34:48 AM

Felgraf: Skail: I don't understand why it would even be a question. The book (and the Survival Guide) explicitly state that the zombies are slow and ambling. Why change it? The entire point of the battle of Yonkers was that the zombies are slow and horrific and will eventually overrun you if all you're relying on are big, flashy explosions instead of effective tactics. And then later, with proper strategy, they were able to use that to their advantage.

Which is kind of stupid, because it seems to ignore how pressure waves/concussive force works.

The big, flashy explosions from artillery shells? Wouuulllddd probably pulp zombie brains from the concussive force. I mean, we're getting traumatic brain injuries from vets who aren't even directly hit by IED's, but just thrown around a bit, and those are small-potatoes explosions compared to some of the stuff the military would have at their disposal-I would think artillery would actually be *VERY EFFECTIVE* at thinning out a dense hoard. Even better if you could fire in a noise maker to get them to concentrate before throwing in a heavier explosive.


I agree to a point.  A lot of the TBI is due not to destroying the brain but just damaging some parts of it, thus the behavioral effects.  Current research shows that the brain is able to rewire itself given the right stimuli to compensate for the damage.  Zombies may be able to do this, since it doesn't involve regenerating anything, just using different pathways to achieve the same result.  But the overarching result of Yonkers was that, while the zombies were indeed damaged by all the big pyrotechnics, they weren't killed.  Same as when they were sprayed with bullets from the battlements.  They'd be slowed, but not stopped.

I'm sad this movie sounds like it's going to be so terrible.
 
2013-05-01 10:37:05 AM

KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?


I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?
 
2013-05-01 10:42:07 AM

Raharu: Imagine if you will..

A WWZ miniseries, with walking dead level effects and production quality.

Each episode is a tale from the book with some filler episodes.

At the start of each story we get a glimpse into the world after the zombie war, as the narrator travels to each location around the world to interview one of the survivors.

This leaves room for guest stars, new and upcoming actors etc.  You could stretch out the material to about 2 full seasons...

Naaaaaaaah, lets just but the rights to the name, and go ZOMBIE FLASH FLOOD!


I'd love to see the ISS story arc.
/Zombies in spaaaaaaaaaace.
//Actualy no zombies up there. Just lots of cosmic radiation.
///And not the Richard Reed kind, the Steve Jobs kind.
 
2013-05-01 10:42:34 AM

fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?


Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.
 
2013-05-01 10:45:55 AM

fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?


Ron Perlman
 
2013-05-01 10:46:20 AM
Slow zombies are just not a scary threat anymore. Even in NotLD the rednecks clean-up the zombies on the following day. The only 'relatively' slow zombies that are still a global threat are the ones introduced in Return of the Living Dead. Killing their brains did nothing and burning them only made MORE zombies due to the chemical exposure.

Now fast zombies are a global threat. Combine that with the ability to create action sequences not possible with slow zombies and they were almost mandatory for the movie. Don't understand the WWZ movie hate. The book is unworkable as anything besides a 30 minute serial - essentially The Outer Limits: Zombies. The reader remembers how awesome some of the segments were, but forget how lame others were.
 
2013-05-01 10:47:56 AM

fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?


Maybe older.  In the book he was part of the National Party during Apartheid, and the Reddiker plan was originally to deal with an uprising of the black African population against the White South Africans.  So that would mean he held a pretty senior NP position in the late 80's.  Add 20 years to when World War Z was published, I'd say 65 to 80.
 
2013-05-01 10:49:06 AM

orclover: fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?

Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.


If Marlon Brando was still alive, and had a little Col. Kurtz left in him.
 
2013-05-01 10:51:57 AM

madgonad: Don't understand the WWZ movie hate.


The hate stems from the fact that they're actually using the WWZ name for a movie that really has nothing to do with it. If they had called it anything else you wouldn't see nearly the backlash against it.

Yes there were some slow parts in the book, but there were also some awesome parts. Instead of taking one of those, they just went away from the book completely.

And it's PG-13 with almost no blood. Sure you could make the argument that the zombies don't bleed (coagulation or something), but humans definitely do bleed, yet it's bloodless.
 
2013-05-01 10:52:06 AM

BMFPitt: orclover: fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?

Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.

If Marlon Brando was still alive, and had a little Col. Kurtz left in him.


Eli Wallach if he could pull off the accent.
 
2013-05-01 10:52:16 AM
If Brad Pitt doesn't ask to buy a blind camel, I am going to be seriously disappointed.
 
2013-05-01 10:55:13 AM

medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.

 
2013-05-01 10:55:47 AM

lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]


Interesting. So I Googled "Cat in World War Z poster" and this was in the results.

2.bp.blogspot.com

takemymoney.jpeg
 
2013-05-01 10:56:55 AM

elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.


This. After Lost, Prometheus, etc, why the fark is this guy still being hired?
 
2013-05-01 10:57:02 AM
Nice.
 
2013-05-01 10:59:32 AM
I have a suggestion.

Why not make the movie exactly the way the graphic novel depicted it????

This isn't a tale of Hollywood making mistakes. This is a tale of Hollywood taking what was a good comic, turning it over a barrel, and ass-raping it mercilessly without lube. This was Hollywood thinking that it's nephew's brainstorms are far superior to what some comic writer came up with.

If the comic was good enough to get your attention, then why not use that to your advantage and make it the same way the comic did?
 
2013-05-01 11:01:09 AM

Moopy Mac: stuhayes2010: I loved the book.  It was a fun read.  I don't hold much hope for  the movie, but according to Wiki:

 Aint it Cool News reviewed the script in March 2008, and said "This isn't just a good adaptation of a difficult book... it's a genre-defining piece of work that could well see us all arguing about whether or not a zombie movie qualifies as Best Picture.


So, maybe there's hope.

Or the check cleared (or exclusive coverage granted).

/Which new Star Wars movie was supposed to blow our minds?


Harry Knowles has been a paid shill for the movie studios for more than 10 years now.

He gave the Jim Carey GRINCH movie a glowing review; well, it was a glowing review of an early draft
of the script about 6 months before the movie was released, and yet when the movie itself came out
he had fark all to say about it because it was so bad.

He should have changed the name of his site to "Ain't I a Tool?" News long ago.
 
2013-05-01 11:01:16 AM

This text is now purple: brandent: elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.

who?

The guy who ruined Lost and Prometheus.

Having him as a screenwriter is the equivalent of a movie getting cancer.


God here comes the internet tards again. I hate all this revisionist shiat.

Lindelof CO-CREATED LOST. He wrote the show's bible. He was executive producer along with Carlton Cuse who *also* wrote a lot of the stuff the internet fanboys hate. LOST lasted 6 seasons and was brilliant for most of its run. Of course the finale pissed off the fanboys so now they hate the entire show.

PROMETHEUS was a Ridley Scott film. Again, a lot of fanboys ignore the fact a lot of the things they hated was RIDLEY SCOTT'S IDEA. They can't accept the fact that the man who directed ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER crushed their hopes for a brilliant prequel and are desperately looking for someone else to blame. "Oh, the guy who wrote that sucky LOST finale was a screenwriter on this? Must be HIS fault!"

/morons
 
2013-05-01 11:04:00 AM

NutWrench: elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.

This. After Lost, Prometheus, etc, why the fark is this guy still being hired?


fim.413chan.net
Its hollywood, thats how.
 
2013-05-01 11:06:04 AM

Securitywyrm: Nuclear Monk: I think I'll wait and watch the poorly/hastily made knock-off with a very similar title that is sure to pop up at Redbox a few weeks before WWZ is released.

The Asylum will surely release their own zombie movie around the time this comes out... and I'll be honest. Their last zombie movie was... one of the best zombie movies I've ever seen. Sure it had low production values, but the story was good, the characters were good, and most of all... at no point in the movie did someone do something absolutely retarded for the sake of plot progression.
"Hello new people. Everyone strip at gunpoint, we're doing a bite check before we welcome you into the group."
"As a new member of the group, please cut off that long hair, ditch the heels, and we're going to a sporting goods store to get you some better clothes and equipment."
ETC.


What's the name of this zombie movie, it's the serious zombie movie I have been dying to see.
 
2013-05-01 11:08:02 AM
FLMountainMan:
Honestly, I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than I would a dozen slow zombies.

I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than most other things on this planet.
 
2013-05-01 11:08:38 AM

trackerbri: BMFPitt: orclover: fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?

Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.

If Marlon Brando was still alive, and had a little Col. Kurtz left in him.

Eli Wallach if he could pull off the accent.


 www.indiewire.com
Max Von effing Sydow.
Age 84, Swedish accent sounds kinda dutch, and gravitas out the wazoo.
 
2013-05-01 11:13:30 AM
What fireclown said.
 
2013-05-01 11:16:20 AM

daveinsurgent: post0089: THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?

He's referring to the history of the production.


and I was referring to this unwanted pregnancy that will result in an expected stillborn
 
2013-05-01 11:16:38 AM

fireclown: trackerbri: BMFPitt: orclover: fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?

Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.

If Marlon Brando was still alive, and had a little Col. Kurtz left in him.

Eli Wallach if he could pull off the accent.

 [www.indiewire.com image 680x478]
Max Von effing Sydow.
Age 84, Swedish accent sounds kinda dutch, and gravitas out the wazoo.


Remember, he doesnt sound like a dutch immigrant south african native.  He sounds exactly like the black radical leader who stopped apartheid.
roneoldschool945.files.wordpress.com
Its not the story of how everything went down.  Its the story of an interview by various documantary interviewers researching the story from the people involved with everything that went down.  Thats World War Z.  Thats what people dont get, the farking wars over, hell its long lover.  This is a history channel documentary about the war that almost ended all of humanity.  And how it drove some people farking crazy.  Remember the teenage girl in the hospital and how the entire staff and the reporter nearly shiat themselves when she mimics zombie moaning?
 
2013-05-01 11:21:11 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

FTFA: He took me through how excited he was when he read the book, what was exciting for him, the geopolitical aspect of it, screenwriter Damon Lindelof [explained]. But when we started working on the script, a lot of that stuff had to fall away for the story to come together.

It always makes me laugh when people are attempting to dissect why something went wrong and then VERY CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHERE THINGS WENT WRONG in the first few seconds... only to quickly move past it and start babbling about other nonsense for hours.

Mr. Pitt, your mistake was not following the book. After that, there was no saving the project.

/could have been awesome
 
2013-05-01 11:21:59 AM

scottydoesntknow: madgonad: Don't understand the WWZ movie hate.

The hate stems from the fact that they're actually using the WWZ name for a movie that really has nothing to do with it. If they had called it anything else you wouldn't see nearly the backlash against it.

Yes there were some slow parts in the book, but there were also some awesome parts. Instead of taking one of those, they just went away from the book completely.

And it's PG-13 with almost no blood. Sure you could make the argument that the zombies don't bleed (coagulation or something), but humans definitely do bleed, yet it's bloodless.


They used the name because they are borrowing too much of the structure of the book's story and obviously want to trade on the cool name.
Too much of what the books tells well just doesn't translate to a film, but is necessary due to how it shapes the story. Because of the narrative major actions were described in a cursory fashion - which the reader's brain fills in - but would require considerable time to film. Things like the coup in China, the floating 'cities', what Cuba became, patient zero, the war between Pakistan and Iran, the decimations in Russia, the explanation of the Reddicker plan. There just isn't much action in these critical scenes - which would make a movie hard to watch and too long. Recall how American society in the west was described and how the nation was recaptured. How do you film this? If you stick to the book you HAVE to film it, but it just isn't going to work. Also, remember that 'time' jumps back and forth between different stories. A movie just wasn't possible without abandoning a lot about what makes WWZ unique. I'm going to wait and see. The idea of a really big budget fast-zombie movie sounds fantastic, even if it deviates wildly from canon.
 
2013-05-01 11:23:40 AM

orclover: Its not the story of how everything went down. Its the story of an interview by various documantary interviewers researching the story from the people involved with everything that went down. Thats World War Z. Thats what people dont get, the farking wars over, hell its long lover. This is a history channel documentary about the war that almost ended all of humanity. And how it drove some people farking crazy. Remember the teenage girl in the hospital and how the entire staff and the reporter nearly shiat themselves when she mimics zombie moaning?


I agree completely.  Sorry about the Dutch accent thing.  Reddikers accent would be Affrikans, which to me sounds like German by way of New Zealand.  My point is that his accent isn't British: I'm sick of British just meaning "foreign".

My view of how to do the Reddiker story on the cheap is to hire someone appropriate (and I'm liking Von Sydow more and more for the part) is to do it as an interview.  One guy interviewing an old dude in a hospital about the bad old days, how they played out, how hard decisions got made, and the slow reveal that we are talking to Reddiker himself.  Even if Reddiker doesn't know it.  Zero CGI, no explosions, no zombies for that matter.  Hell, it would make a great stage production.
 
2013-05-01 11:24:46 AM

peterthx: PROMETHEUS was a Ridley Scott film. Again, a lot of fanboys ignore the fact a lot of the things they hated was RIDLEY SCOTT'S IDEA. They can't accept the fact that the man who directed ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER crushed their hopes for a brilliant prequel and are desperately looking for someone else to blame. "Oh, the guy who wrote that sucky LOST finale was a screenwriter on this? Must be HIS fault!"

/morons


You might want to not be so hasty to throw around epithets like that... I don't know about Lost, but I do know you're wrong about Prometheus. Ridley Scott did not write Prometheus. The script was originally written by Spaihts, and the ideas for it originally came from him. Then Scott got Lindelof to take a look at the script...... and he totally butchered it.

Pretty much everyone who has read the original Spaihts script thinks it was great, and in it all the plot holes and fatally stupid characters weren't there until Lindelof re-wrote it.
 
2013-05-01 11:27:04 AM

medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.


It's the only movie I have ever walked out on
 
2013-05-01 11:28:11 AM

mongbiohazard: Pretty much everyone who has read the original Spaihts script thinks it was great, and in it all the plot holes and fatally stupid characters weren't there until Lindelof re-wrote it.


Tell me you're talking about that red haired scottish guy.
 
2013-05-01 11:29:18 AM

Suflig: I don't get how they would have needed to change the ending. The ending was we won, then the rest of the book is a series of flashbacks via the interviews. Have the narrator explain that in the first few minutes of the movie, show the most interesting scenes from an audience's perspective, then at the end, show the narrator compiling WWZ into a compendium and zoom out to him sitting in the world's last library in front of a huge WWZ encyclopedia

It could be very similar to the ending to "The Book of Eli"


You say that as if it would be a good thing.....

/THE BOOK OF ELI was not very good
 
2013-05-01 11:30:25 AM

madgonad: A movie just wasn't possible without abandoning a lot about what makes WWZ unique.


So why make it? Like I said, the biggest issue is trying to cash in on the name while abandoning everything about the name.

The idea of a really big budget fast-zombie movie sounds fantastic

Yes, because that's never been done before...
 
2013-05-01 11:30:43 AM

fireclown: Max Von effing Sydow.


The best. Next time you watch Flash Gordon pay attention to his performance on the platform at Sky City where he offers Flash dominion over Earth. It's an acting class in three minutes - in the farking Flash Gordon movie. There's a minute there where you think, shiat, this guy really IS Ming the Merciless.
 
2013-05-01 11:33:50 AM

fireclown: Hell, it would make a great stage production.


That would be farking awesome, some no profit college run bit that brings in some ancient but awesome actor for the main bit.  Sydow is still alive? cuz he would be great.  Hell theres alot of old actors that could pull it off, frickin Bill Murry might do it for a bottle of tequilla, he could even be dead serious throughout it.  Adding cutscenes to the big Redikker and leader of Africa meetup would be gravy but not needed.  Although it would be funny to see some onscreen news animation and graphs showing exactly how the Reddiker plan works and how farking crazy it was.  Also its origins as a plan to manage rioting and rebelling native afrikans while keeping white rich settlers in power.
 
2013-05-01 11:35:33 AM

Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.


I heard about this project just as the first trailer came out. It looked so shiatty that I didn't bother to investigate the film further (after learning that they didn't follow the book)....

I CANNOT BELIEVE they picked the guy that wrote Prometheus and Cowboys and Aliens for this. Honestly, it's UNBELIEVABLE how clueless some people really can be... and yet they get paid millions of dollars a year to do their job (i.e., the producers).

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On the other hand, the guy that's listed on the credits for IMDB now, Matthew Michael Carnahan, has got some game. The Kingdom was awesome (but nobody saw it) and State of Play wasn't too shabby either. He writes good dialog... so that gives me sooooooome hope.

/not really
 
2013-05-01 11:35:34 AM

scottydoesntknow: madgonad: A movie just wasn't possible without abandoning a lot about what makes WWZ unique.

So why make it? Like I said, the biggest issue is trying to cash in on the name while abandoning everything about the name.

The idea of a really big budget fast-zombie movie sounds fantastic

Yes, because that's never been done before...


Why? Because zombies are big right now and Hollywood wanted to make a big budget, globally involved zombie movie. Not in some town in PA. Not in central Georgia. Not in the Caribbean islands. Not in Memphis. Not central London. The whole world would be the conflict.

Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it. That is why they had to pay him - and make use of a lot of the structure and name. At no time did the creators think that they could stay close to the source material.
 
2013-05-01 11:37:29 AM

fireclown: mongbiohazard: Pretty much everyone who has read the original Spaihts script thinks it was great, and in it all the plot holes and fatally stupid characters weren't there until Lindelof re-wrote it.

Tell me you're talking about that red haired scottish guy.


Here's a synopsis I wrote in a previous thread about it: Link

It really was a lot better than what ended up on the screen.
 
2013-05-01 11:37:29 AM

orclover: fireclown: Hell, it would make a great stage production.

That would be farking awesome, some no profit college run bit that brings in some ancient but awesome actor for the main bit.  Sydow is still alive? cuz he would be great.  Hell theres alot of old actors that could pull it off, frickin Bill Murry might do it for a bottle of tequilla, he could even be dead serious throughout it.  Adding cutscenes to the big Redikker and leader of Africa meetup would be gravy but not needed.  Although it would be funny to see some onscreen news animation and graphs showing exactly how the Reddiker plan works and how farking crazy it was.  Also its origins as a plan to manage rioting and rebelling native afrikans while keeping white rich settlers in power.


The back story could be handled largely as a powerpoint presentation behind the actors.  And yeah, I checked Sydows wiki page: he's 84 and looks great.
 
2013-05-01 11:38:53 AM
shiat hes still kickin!

Somebody get Max on the phone.  Lets do this thing.

/he and Christopher Lee belong to the same club Abe Vigoda does I guess.
 
2013-05-01 11:40:08 AM

fireclown:   Hell, it would make a great stage production.


That seems to be what fans of the book want. They should just stage the damn thing and film it. Make everybody happy.

My Dinner with Zombies.
 
2013-05-01 11:40:13 AM

madgonad: Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it.


Sue them for what? The movie has pretty much nothing to do with the book. The book didn't even have fast zombies, so them having fast zombies alone would be wildly different than the book.
 
2013-05-01 11:41:07 AM
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Just Shoot Me: the Zombie Apocalypse
 
2013-05-01 11:42:54 AM

TV's Vinnie: I have a suggestion.

Why not make the movie exactly the way the graphic novel depicted it????

This isn't a tale of Hollywood making mistakes. This is a tale of Hollywood taking what was a good comic, turning it over a barrel, and ass-raping it mercilessly without lube. This was Hollywood thinking that it's nephew's brainstorms are far superior to what some comic writer came up with.

If the comic was good enough to get your attention, then why not use that to your advantage and make it the same way the comic did?


Because the source material was not, and never has been, a comic book.

It's a Studs Terkel style oral history novel. Please read it.

/Your description of the abuses heaped on it, however, are spot-on.
 
2013-05-01 11:44:18 AM

scottydoesntknow: madgonad: Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it.

Sue them for what? The movie has pretty much nothing to do with the book. The book didn't even have fast zombies, so them having fast zombies alone would be wildly different than the book.


Ever since Harlan Ellison successfully sued James Cameron over Terminator infringing on The Demon with a Glass Hand - Hollywood tries to get the Rights. Brooks has resources and the book isn't that old. It would be stupid not to get the Rights and even trade on the cool name.
 
2013-05-01 11:45:35 AM

Dr.Zom: That seems to be what fans of the book want. They should just stage the damn thing and film it. Make everybody happy.


For that part of the story, maybe.  I think we all pretty much want big-ass budget for Yonkers.  With non  CGI Apaches,tons of bullets and ginormous FAE 'splosions.
www.weeatfilms.com
 
2013-05-01 11:48:43 AM

trappedspirit: medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.

It's the only movie I have ever walked out on


I guess you never saw Battlefield Earth.

Or Escape from L.A.
 
2013-05-01 11:52:42 AM

orclover: fireclown: trackerbri: BMFPitt: orclover: fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?

Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.

If Marlon Brando was still alive, and had a little Col. Kurtz left in him.

Eli Wallach if he could pull off the accent.

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Max Von effing Sydow.
Age 84, Swedish accent sounds kinda dutch, and gravitas out the wazoo.

Remember, he doesnt sound like a dutch immigrant south african native.  He sounds exactly like the black radical leader who stopped apartheid.


Someone needs to re-read the book.

http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Redeker_Plan
 
2013-05-01 11:54:03 AM

madgonad: Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it.


Way back in time, a group named White Wolf Publishing approached a movie company and asked them to make a movie based on their MET setting material.  They had a world where vampires and werewolves were all over the place but hidden, where there were elder vampires and younger, elder werewolves and younger, older meant stronger, vampires sat around in boring, passionless lives, humans could sometimes be turned into one or the other, and if someone was changed into both a vampire and a werewolf they were called an "abomination."  The movie company said no.

Then hey, a movie comes out, with  exactly the same setting, down to even calling the mixes an "abomination" - a very specific detail.  I'm not going to say bad things about said movie, because anyone that is responsible for putting Kate Beckinsale in that outfit for me to see can't be a bad person.  That said, making a movie that is only vaguely like a book that is vaguely like many other books, isn't that big a deal.  Cut out the specifics, and..there's no reason to pay :P
 
2013-05-01 11:55:47 AM

IamAwake: madgonad: Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it.

Way back in time, a group named White Wolf Publishing approached a movie company and asked them to make a movie based on their MET setting material.  They had a world where vampires and werewolves were all over the place but hidden, where there were elder vampires and younger, elder werewolves and younger, older meant stronger, vampires sat around in boring, passionless lives, humans could sometimes be turned into one or the other, and if someone was changed into both a vampire and a werewolf they were called an "abomination."  The movie company said no.

Then hey, a movie comes out, with  exactly the same setting, down to even calling the mixes an "abomination" - a very specific detail.  I'm not going to say bad things about said movie, because anyone that is responsible for putting Kate Beckinsale in that outfit for me to see can't be a bad person.  That said, making a movie that is only vaguely like a book that is vaguely like many other books, isn't that big a deal.  Cut out the specifics, and..there's no reason to pay :P


I was wondering if I was the only one curious about the connection between the WW material and Underworld.
 
2013-05-01 11:57:36 AM

trackerbri: orclover: fireclown: trackerbri: BMFPitt: orclover: fireclown: KatjaMouse: Isn't he a bit young for Reddiker?

I wrestled with that, and you're pretty much right.  I was initially thinking Christopher Lee, or maybe Gary Oldman, but Hardy just knocked it out of the park in Bronson.  How old WAS Reddiker?  I'm thinking 60s?

Older probably, he was at least in his 60's when the war started, forward 12 years to the recovery and then the documentary.  Christopher Lee would be a good choice.  Or Anthony Hopkins.  shiat Hopkins could probably pull off the voice and accent.

If Marlon Brando was still alive, and had a little Col. Kurtz left in him.

Eli Wallach if he could pull off the accent.

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Max Von effing Sydow.
Age 84, Swedish accent sounds kinda dutch, and gravitas out the wazoo.

Remember, he doesnt sound like a dutch immigrant south african native.  He sounds exactly like the black radical leader who stopped apartheid.

Someone needs to re-read the book.

http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Redeker_Plan


Been a while, forgot about Xolelwa Azania, still think it should be Nelson Mandella.
 
2013-05-01 11:57:37 AM

Phinn: trappedspirit: medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.

It's the only movie I have ever walked out on

I guess you never saw Battlefield Earth.

Or Escape from L.A.


Wooo, wait a minute you actually paid to see Escape from LA ? Well and Battlefield Earth. although both are funny as hell well you watch them for free, especially the the LA thing.
 
2013-05-01 11:58:09 AM

Poe: I have said this before, but...

If I were Supreme Ruler of the World, I would have had the people behind this movie watch a little flick called The Man From Earth.  It's about a caveman who does not age, and the entire movie is him talking with a handful of other people about his life over the last 14,000 years.  Takes place almost entirely in one room, no CGI or flashbacks to his experiences, and it farking works, because dialogue is so well written that you forget that you are listening to a story and instead see it in your minds eye.  WWZ is written as a series of interviews, and with the right actors and set dressings, it could be done the same way.  The only actual zombies you see would be the half frozen ones in the segment with the girl who's parents took her north into Canada, and you would have to get an outstanding young actress for the feral child part, but it could be done.  With the Hollywood love of remakes, I really hope someone makes a proper WWZ a few years down the line.


I loved that movie!

(Spoilers)

The only part I didn't like was when he was revealed to be the inspiration for Jesus, it was just a bit hokey. But still an awesome movie!
 
2013-05-01 11:58:43 AM

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Just Shoot Me: the Zombie Apocalypse


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2013-05-01 12:00:19 PM

Raharu: This may as well be the thread to share this in.
Did you enjoy Dexter?
Like the walking dead show and comic?
Then this book could be for you.  It's Dexter meets the walking dead.
Undead Situation.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Undead-Situation-Eloise-Knapp/dp/19348615 88

It's the writers first book, I picked it up when it was just 1$ on the barnes and noble ebook store. I enjoyed it so much, that I picked up the audiobook version from audible.

B&N Link

It's pretty good.


This is why I love Fark - every time I check a zombie thread, I get another reading recommendation, and so far I haven't been disappointed.  Thanks!

/Day-by-Day Armageddon is my favorite so far
//Soft spot for World War Z, though
///Concur with the miniseries approach...oh, what could have been!
 
2013-05-01 12:00:28 PM
Didn't WW sue Sony over Underworld and lose?
 
2013-05-01 12:00:41 PM
Anyone who expected different once you saw that first trailer was deluding themselves.
 
2013-05-01 12:07:11 PM
ahhhhhhhh, a final nail in the over done and boring zombie schtick coffin.


"whaddya got kid?"
"it's a ZOMBIE PICTURE!"
"what else ya got?"
"a VAMPIRE PICTURE!"
"uh...what else..."
" that's all I have?! "
"don't call us, we'll call you..."
 
2013-05-01 12:07:15 PM
If critics hate it, usually means I'll like it
 
2013-05-01 12:08:21 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Didn't WW sue Sony over Underworld and lose?


they settled - money was given to WW.  Not nearly enough, because it was an obvious straight-lift from their material (especially given the specifics), but Sony got them to not go to court.
 
2013-05-01 12:12:02 PM
It was terribly obvious...but really, how else were we ever going to get an oWoD movie, much less a cross-over?
 
2013-05-01 12:13:10 PM

IamAwake: madgonad: Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it.

Way back in time, a group named White Wolf Publishing approached a movie company and asked them to make a movie based on their MET setting material.  They had a world where vampires and werewolves were all over the place but hidden, where there were elder vampires and younger, elder werewolves and younger, older meant stronger, vampires sat around in boring, passionless lives, humans could sometimes be turned into one or the other, and if someone was changed into both a vampire and a werewolf they were called an "abomination."  The movie company said no.

Then hey, a movie comes out, with  exactly the same setting, down to even calling the mixes an "abomination" - a very specific detail.  I'm not going to say bad things about said movie, because anyone that is responsible for putting Kate Beckinsale in that outfit for me to see can't be a bad person.  That said, making a movie that is only vaguely like a book that is vaguely like many other books, isn't that big a deal.  Cut out the specifics, and..there's no reason to pay :P


WWZ came out in 2007 and was very popular. There were decades between White Wolf and Underworld. The rights didn't even cost that much, so it was certainly a smart move. The movie makers also WANTED to capture WWZ consumers directly, while Underworld was not targeted at paper/pencil gamers.
 
2013-05-01 12:26:31 PM

Komodicus: But that was the script from five years ago. I am pretty sure that it has undergone multiple rewrites since then. They decided late in filming that they didn't like the ending, changed it, and had to reshoot. The director has also stated that he was going for a PG-13 rating and "avoided" most of the gore and blood on purpose. The movie also takes place over just a "few days" and centers on Brad's character. Brad, who is the one that has the rights to the book in movie form, also stated that he wanted to make a movie that he could show his kids. They must have left a lot of material from the book out of the movie.


That farkin' PG-13 rating. No good has ever come of it. I miss the days when you just had PG movies where no one would blink twice at a bit of nudity or violence because, hey, you had been warned that parental  guidance was being recommended.
 
2013-05-01 12:27:30 PM
Also Sean Collins really needed to be played by Mickey Rourke.
 
2013-05-01 12:27:36 PM

MadManMoon: Raharu: This may as well be the thread to share this in.
Did you enjoy Dexter?
Like the walking dead show and comic?
Then this book could be for you.  It's Dexter meets the walking dead.
Undead Situation.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Undead-Situation-Eloise-Knapp/dp/19348615 88

It's the writers first book, I picked it up when it was just 1$ on the barnes and noble ebook store. I enjoyed it so much, that I picked up the audiobook version from audible.

B&N Link

It's pretty good.

This is why I love Fark - every time I check a zombie thread, I get another reading recommendation, and so far I haven't been disappointed.  Thanks!

/Day-by-Day Armageddon is my favorite so far
//Soft spot for World War Z, though
///Concur with the miniseries approach...oh, what could have been!



I really liked DBDA but the last book was a bit disappointing.

Like I said, if you enjoyed dexter and walking dead, you'll like The Undead Situation.

I just started the 2nd book today.
 
2013-05-01 12:28:11 PM

Infernalist: IamAwake: madgonad: Well, if they just made that movie - fast zombies and all - Max Brooks could sue them over it.

Way back in time, a group named White Wolf Publishing approached a movie company and asked them to make a movie based on their MET setting material.  They had a world where vampires and werewolves were all over the place but hidden, where there were elder vampires and younger, elder werewolves and younger, older meant stronger, vampires sat around in boring, passionless lives, humans could sometimes be turned into one or the other, and if someone was changed into both a vampire and a werewolf they were called an "abomination."  The movie company said no.

Then hey, a movie comes out, with  exactly the same setting, down to even calling the mixes an "abomination" - a very specific detail.  I'm not going to say bad things about said movie, because anyone that is responsible for putting Kate Beckinsale in that outfit for me to see can't be a bad person.  That said, making a movie that is only vaguely like a book that is vaguely like many other books, isn't that big a deal.  Cut out the specifics, and..there's no reason to pay :P

I was wondering if I was the only one curious about the connection between the WW material and Underworld.


As I recall, WW got quite a settlement from the producers of UNDERWEAR... er UNDERWORLD when all
was said and done.
 
2013-05-01 12:29:43 PM

MadManMoon: Raharu: This may as well be the thread to share this in.
Did you enjoy Dexter?
Like the walking dead show and comic?
Then this book could be for you.  It's Dexter meets the walking dead.
Undead Situation.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Undead-Situation-Eloise-Knapp/dp/19348615 88

It's the writers first book, I picked it up when it was just 1$ on the barnes and noble ebook store. I enjoyed it so much, that I picked up the audiobook version from audible.

B&N Link

It's pretty good.

This is why I love Fark - every time I check a zombie thread, I get another reading recommendation, and so far I haven't been disappointed.  Thanks!

/Day-by-Day Armageddon is my favorite so far
//Soft spot for World War Z, though
///Concur with the miniseries approach...oh, what could have been!



Derp almost forgot, the audible audio books for it are fantastic too.
 
2013-05-01 12:42:14 PM
Add for the movie Ishtar "Can it really be that bad?".
the answer "Yes!".
 
2013-05-01 12:45:15 PM
The guy who told me to read WWZ some years back apparently wasn't aware of what "fiction" means. Yes, he tried convincing me this all happened and the ever-ominous THEY didn't want us to know.
 
2013-05-01 12:45:15 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.


That's how they shot Lethal Weapon 3. Donner woke up every morning and said, "So, what should we shoot today? Blow something up? Car chase? Mel stripping down and showing off his scars? Anybody? Ideas?"
 
2013-05-01 12:56:39 PM

madgonad: WWZ came out in 2007 and was very popular. There were decades between White Wolf and Underworld.


White Wolf continued to print, and still publishes, game books and that setting. Sure it was years since they first started printing them, but WW was putting out more material in the setting at the time of Underworld's release.
 
2013-05-01 12:58:02 PM

Phinn: trappedspirit: medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.

It's the only movie I have ever walked out on

I guess you never saw Battlefield Earth.

Or Escape from L.A.


I didn't walk out on Battlefield Earth.  I kept thinking, "It has to get better.  This isn't sustainable."  But it  was.  And it got  worse.  It was just so horrible in every way a movie can be horrible.  On and on.  Relentless.
 
2013-05-01 01:00:46 PM

jtown: Phinn: trappedspirit: medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.

It's the only movie I have ever walked out on

I guess you never saw Battlefield Earth.

Or Escape from L.A.

I didn't walk out on Battlefield Earth.  I kept thinking, "It has to get better.  This isn't sustainable."  But it  was.  And it got  worse.  It was just so horrible in every way a movie can be horrible.  On and on.  Relentless.


Oh man, "Escape from L.A." was excruciating! I walked out on "Cool World"...hey, another Brad Pitt movie! Hmmm....
 
2013-05-01 01:11:17 PM

Raharu: MadManMoon: Raharu: This may as well be the thread to share this in.
Did you enjoy Dexter?
Like the walking dead show and comic?
Then this book could be for you.  It's Dexter meets the walking dead.
Undead Situation.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Undead-Situation-Eloise-Knapp/dp/19348615 88

It's the writers first book, I picked it up when it was just 1$ on the barnes and noble ebook store. I enjoyed it so much, that I picked up the audiobook version from audible.

B&N Link

It's pretty good.

This is why I love Fark - every time I check a zombie thread, I get another reading recommendation, and so far I haven't been disappointed.  Thanks!

/Day-by-Day Armageddon is my favorite so far
//Soft spot for World War Z, though
///Concur with the miniseries approach...oh, what could have been!


I really liked DBDA but the last book was a bit disappointing.

Like I said, if you enjoyed dexter and walking dead, you'll like The Undead Situation.

I just started the 2nd book today.


Well dude you've been on my Favs as a guy I'd party /hang out with so I may have to check that out.
 
2013-05-01 01:14:23 PM

Fark It: ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.

They didn't decide if the zombies would be fast (28 Days Later) or shuffling, a la Romero, until two weeks before filming began.


At what point did they decide the zombies were going to be a wave of flesh eating lemmings?

I hope all the people griping about Pacific Rim's physics in the other thread don't give this pile of refuse a pass.
 
2013-05-01 01:16:59 PM

medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.


I disagree. I saw it as a free sneak preview and it was awful. I mean painful.
 
2013-05-01 01:34:25 PM

PunGent: Raharu: Imagine if you will..

A WWZ miniseries, with walking dead level effects and production quality.

Each episode is a tale from the book with some filler episodes.

At the start of each story we get a glimpse into the world after the zombie war, as the narrator travels to each location around the world to interview one of the survivors.

This leaves room for guest stars, new and upcoming actors etc.  You could stretch out the material to about 2 full seasons...

Naaaaaaaah, lets just but the rights to the name, and go ZOMBIE FLASH FLOOD!

Heck, you could do a world-wide COLLABORATIVE mini-series, different teams all around the world doing loosely-coordinated projects.  Subtitle as appropriate...sure you'd get widely varying quality, but you could get some outstanding indie stuff as well.



They did something like that with the Matrix. It was kinda cool.

I saw the trailer for World War Z, it looked like crap. Were they zombies or a SWARM OF BEES? I couldn't tell.

/Zombie bees
//Now that's a movie!
 
2013-05-01 01:41:11 PM

jtown: Phinn: trappedspirit: medieval: Ishtar was not a bad movie.

It got bad reviews, and it wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen, but it was hardly a bad movie.

It's the only movie I have ever walked out on

I guess you never saw Battlefield Earth.

Or Escape from L.A.

I didn't walk out on Battlefield Earth.  I kept thinking, "It has to get better.  This isn't sustainable."  But it  was.  And it got  worse.  It was just so horrible in every way a movie can be horrible.  On and on.  Relentless.


lol, I lost it when they find the old f-15s or whatever. Hey guys! Some old fighter jets! And they're fully fueled and ready to go! Fancy that.
 
2013-05-01 01:47:41 PM

Tman144: I didn't walk out on Battlefield Earth. I kept thinking, "It has to get better. This isn't sustainable." But it was. And it got worse. It was just so horrible in every way a movie can be horrible. On and on. Relentless.

lol, I lost it when they find the old f-15s or whatever. Hey guys! Some old fighter jets! And they're fully fueled and ready to go! Fancy that.


The thing about that movie that makes it the worst movie ever made is that it was the great Scientology movie.  It was supposed to change your freaking religion.  And not just yours, but my mealy-mouthed agnosticism, my pal Daves dyed-in-the-wool Catholicism and my ex GFs hard line athiesm.  All at the same time.  They really thought they had something brilliant on their hands.  If you know you're making crap and you turn out Bikini Car Wash 3, that's just a bad movie, but these guys were making LIFE CHANGING ART.
 
2013-05-01 01:49:37 PM

peterthx: Lindelof CO-CREATED LOST. He wrote the show's bible.


Lost's Bible made less sense than the actual Bible.

\which was cobbled together from multiple sources over 300 years
\\and sums up 1500 years of oral tradition
\\\and was written by committee!
 
2013-05-01 01:50:13 PM

BayouOtter: madgonad: WWZ came out in 2007 and was very popular. There were decades between White Wolf and Underworld.

White Wolf continued to print, and still publishes, game books and that setting. Sure it was years since they first started printing them, but WW was putting out more material in the setting at the time of Underworld's release.


And they got PAID by the makers of Underworld. Confidential settlement.

So it was pretty smart for Brad to get the rights before filming.
 
2013-05-01 01:51:52 PM

peterthx: PROMETHEUS was a Ridley Scott film. Again, a lot of fanboys ignore the fact a lot of the things they hated was RIDLEY SCOTT'S IDEA. They can't accept the fact that the man who directed ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER crushed their hopes for a brilliant prequel and are desperately looking for someone else to blame. "Oh, the guy who wrote that sucky LOST finale was a screenwriter on this? Must be HIS fault!"


http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/opinions/the-8-worst-parts-of-prome th eus-explained-in-the-original-script-jsarg.php

Because it basically was.

Don't get me wrong -- Scott deserve a ton of blame for hiring that idiot, but Lindelof basically came in and butchered a pretty decent script.
 
2013-05-01 01:55:14 PM

fireclown: mongbiohazard: Pretty much everyone who has read the original Spaihts script thinks it was great, and in it all the plot holes and fatally stupid characters weren't there until Lindelof re-wrote it.

Tell me you're talking about that red haired scottish guy.


In the original script, the characters are also smart enough to run along the short axis of the falling Engineer ship, not the long axis.
 
2013-05-01 02:04:58 PM

This text is now purple: fireclown: mongbiohazard: Pretty much everyone who has read the original Spaihts script thinks it was great, and in it all the plot holes and fatally stupid characters weren't there until Lindelof re-wrote it.

Tell me you're talking about that red haired scottish guy.

In the original script, the characters are also smart enough to run along the short axis of the falling Engineer ship, not the long axis.


Scott had complete control: his story changes and ideas were written into the script by Lindelof.

Scott has already taken the "credit" (blame) for a lot of the stuff fanboys howl about so much.
 
2013-05-01 02:26:06 PM

chewielouie: lemurs: Milo Minderbinder: I refuse to spend money on anything that Lindelof touches. He's a hack that couldn't write a cat food commercial.

Seems appropriate:

[i.imgur.com image 640x624]

Interesting. So I Googled "Cat in World War Z poster" and this was in the results.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 266x400]

takemymoney.jpeg



Who.  Is.  This.

Who!
 
2013-05-01 02:26:30 PM

taliesinwi: I thought that was Wing Commander.


Jebus Christ, what they did to that movie was a Joel Schumacher class crime. Origin had a better movie with the cutscenes in WC 3 and 4 (5 got a little alieny). Sonar doesn't 'ping' in space.

That movie could have been so good.
 
2013-05-01 02:26:55 PM
People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.
One thing I hate about imdb reviews is people who start off the review "I've read the book..."
Who cares?  It's the movie that matters.  You can't hate a movie because the book it's based on.
I wish they have a filter for "I've read the book" along with spoilers, hated, loved it...etc.

When is a movie exactly like the book...and why would you want it to be?  Movies add sight, sounds, movement, music from someone's perspective.  Of course it will be different than your mind's interpretation.

And Zombie movies/shows.  How different can they be?  Think about The Walking Dead.  My family watches it...but the hospital beginning is a total ripoff of 28 days later.  Headshots kill zombies.  I really don't get how a severed head can survive.  I've seen my fair share of zombie movies and they're all pretty much the same.   Would that be allowed for any other genre?

I think WWZ will have more action..maybe a mix between War of the Worlds, 2012, and a zombie movie of choice.
 
2013-05-01 02:33:27 PM

dkimball: People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.
One thing I hate about imdb reviews is people who start off the review "I've read the book..."
Who cares?  It's the movie that matters.  You can't hate a movie because the book it's based on.
I wish they have a filter for "I've read the book" along with spoilers, hated, loved it...etc.

When is a movie exactly like the book...and why would you want it to be?  Movies add sight, sounds, movement, music from someone's perspective.  Of course it will be different than your mind's interpretation.

And Zombie movies/shows.  How different can they be?  Think about The Walking Dead.  My family watches it...but the hospital beginning is a total ripoff of 28 days later.  Headshots kill zombies.  I really don't get how a severed head can survive.  I've seen my fair share of zombie movies and they're all pretty much the same.   Would that be allowed for any other genre?

I think WWZ will have more action..maybe a mix between War of the Worlds, 2012, and a zombie movie of choice.



Your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad.

When I watch a movie based on a book, I would like for it to at least follow the books story, and to resemble the book in tone and mood.

See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.
 
2013-05-01 02:38:14 PM

orclover: NutWrench: elvisaintdead: DjangoStonereaver: I stopped reading when I saw Damon Lindelolf's name.

This will be a failure of epic proportions.

Bingo.

This. After Lost, Prometheus, etc, why the fark is this guy still being hired?

[fim.413chan.net image 297x369]
Its hollywood, thats how.


i had the displeasure of attending a writer's seminar in LA. basically it boils down to WHO you know rather than what you know.  you could have the greatest script but it will never be made because you don't have the connections.  lindelof has the connections and he will write movies for years to come.
 
2013-05-01 02:38:17 PM
Wonder if Brad Pitt will be using the SIR rifle with cherry PIE ammo.
 
2013-05-01 02:38:41 PM
I thought World War Z was a great book for what it was and I am sorry to hear that the movie will not follow the story too closely. For those of you bashing it: this was a ZOMBIE book, it was not literature in any sense of the word. If you're reading any sort of horror that you would put on a pedestal and call it literature, please tell me what it is.
 
2013-05-01 02:39:44 PM
Maybe this will finally kill the overdone, stupid zombie fad.

Farking zombies.
 
2013-05-01 02:41:44 PM
I love how we're seeing these articles, attempting to figure out on whom to hang the blame for this stinker once it flops in theaters.
 
2013-05-01 02:41:54 PM

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: If you're reading any sort of horror that you would put on a pedestal and call it literature, please tell me what it is.


Invisible Man
War of the Worlds
Frankenstein
Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde
 
2013-05-01 02:42:13 PM

Raharu: MadManMoon: Raharu: This may as well be the thread to share this in.
Did you enjoy Dexter?
Like the walking dead show and comic?
Then this book could be for you.  It's Dexter meets the walking dead.
Undead Situation.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Undead-Situation-Eloise-Knapp/dp/19348615 88

It's the writers first book, I picked it up when it was just 1$ on the barnes and noble ebook store. I enjoyed it so much, that I picked up the audiobook version from audible.

B&N Link

It's pretty good.

This is why I love Fark - every time I check a zombie thread, I get another reading recommendation, and so far I haven't been disappointed.  Thanks!

/Day-by-Day Armageddon is my favorite so far
//Soft spot for World War Z, though
///Concur with the miniseries approach...oh, what could have been!


I really liked DVDA but the last book was a bit disappointing.

Like I said, if you enjoyed dexter and walking dead, you'll like The Undead Situation.

I just started the 2nd book today.

 
2013-05-01 02:42:59 PM

madgonad: There were decades between White Wolf and Underworld. The rights didn't even cost that much, so it was certainly a smart move.


WWP didn't even exist until 1991, and didn't get any sort of underground popularity until the late 90s, which was around the time WWP approached Sony to make the movie.  Underworld was released in 2003 - which means that between Sony saying no to WWP, and starting production anyway, it wasn't "decades" - it was a couple years.

That, and they didn't buy the rights.  WWP took them to court.  They settled out of court.  There's a pretty heavy NDA surrounding the settlement, so either you don't know how much it was for and you're just making stuff up (which seems to be the case with the "decades" bit anyway) or...that, and "not...that much" may be different for you than it is for a struggling miniature game publishing company which miraculously doubled in size not long after.
 
2013-05-01 02:43:28 PM

moonage daydream: The guy who told me to read WWZ some years back apparently wasn't aware of what "fiction" means. Yes, he tried convincing me this all happened and the ever-ominous THEY didn't want us to know.


My father worked gospel radio in the midwest many years ago, and got a letter in the mail like that about the movie Highlander, trying to warn him that the Immortals were real and one of them was going to become the anti-Christ. *cough*

Apocalyptic paranoia is pretty interesting stuff. I've never met anybody who thought that way who wasn't desperately unhappy and, on some level, seemed like they actually believed things would either be better for them in the aftermath, or at least that they'd get to see everyone they resented suffer.

After all, when the race war comes and he's got canned tuna to last for years, all the pretty white girls who ignored him in favor of guys with jobs will have to talk to him, right?

/ A friend of mine recently disclosed that her father has started stockpiling mayo for "the collapse". The force is strong with that one.
 
2013-05-01 02:43:49 PM

Tman144: I saw the trailer for World War Z, it looked like crap. Were they zombies or a SWARM OF BEES? I couldn't tell.


Actually, the swarming zombies in the first trailer I saw looked to me more like ants than bees.

And, I have to say, that take on zombies as individually stupid mechanistic creatures that will model fairly complex
behaviors in large groups thanks to the emergent property is actually unique and fascinating to me as someone who
generally loathes zombie fiction as repetitive and unoriginal.

That said, though, for all my general loathing of the genre, I found the WORLD WAR Z novel utterly engrossing, and
frankly by completely changing the biophysics of Zack completely undercuts one of the central things I liked about it:
that Max Brooks was able to take a well-worn trope (the slow zombie) and make it scary by treating it in (what seemed
to me) to be a realistic manner.  To change the basic mechanics of the threat completely takes out the thing that I
liked best about the book to its detriment.

If this movie wasn't called WORLD WAR Z, I might be inclined to be a bit more forgiving.  But while I understand that
movie adaptations of books involve compromises and changes to the original, this isn't so much a compromise as a
complete trashing.

I just wish that this different take on zombie behavior was being done in a wholly original film.
 
2013-05-01 02:44:53 PM

Raharu: See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.


Tell that to the Firefly people who felt betrayed by Serenity...
 
2013-05-01 02:48:20 PM

IamAwake: Raharu: See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.

Tell that to the Firefly people who felt betrayed by Serenity...



Serenity was a bigger budget long episode of the show, it didn't really destroy canon, and was made by the shows creator with his creative control.
 
2013-05-01 02:50:03 PM

BMFPitt: Also Sean Collins really needed to be played by Mickey Rourke.


Let Rollins do it.

He totally sold Collins in the audio book.
 
2013-05-01 03:06:39 PM

dkimball: People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.
One thing I hate about imdb reviews is people who start off the review "I've read the book..."
Who cares?  It's the movie that matters.  You can't hate a movie because the book it's based on.
I wish they have a filter for "I've read the book" along with spoilers, hated, loved it...etc.

When is a movie exactly like the book...and why would you want it to be?  Movies add sight, sounds, movement, music from someone's perspective.  Of course it will be different than your mind's interpretation.

And Zombie movies/shows.  How different can they be?  Think about The Walking Dead.  My family watches it...but the hospital beginning is a total ripoff of 28 days later.  Headshots kill zombies.  I really don't get how a severed head can survive.  I've seen my fair share of zombie movies and they're all pretty much the same.   Would that be allowed for any other genre?

I think WWZ will have more action..maybe a mix between War of the Worlds, 2012, and a zombie movie of choice.


Just to be 'that guy' I'll point out that the hospital scene in 28 days later was a 'homage' (or ripoff if you prefer) to 'Day of the Triffids'.

/that guy
 
2013-05-01 03:33:20 PM

Dissociater: The problem is most movies seem to do the '10-15 minutes from infection you become a zombie' thing. The deadliest diseases in history are the ones that incubate for a long time since that's the time needed for it to spread. Otherwise it burns out too fast, killing the host before it gets a chance to pass on.


One of the troubles I have with zombie movies/stories is that the zombies invariably become indestructible with respect to anything except combat vs humans.  Weather and terrain alone would do a great deal of damage to zombies eventually -- cooking in the sun, flesh getting waterlogged and sloughing off due to rain and dampness, bits and pieces getting broken or torn away from falls and skids, etc. -- yet in every zombie movie it seems like zombies, if left alone, would effectively "live" forever.  You'd just have to wait a few weeks or months and they'd all deteriorate to the point where they are no longer a threat.  Hell, most zombies would de-animate after a few days due to lack of energy.
 
2013-05-01 03:37:54 PM

TheSelphie: Lindelof wrote this? LOL.  Dude's name has been tainted forever after PrometheusCowboys and AliensLost.


FTFY

The guy must be blowing cock hardcore in Hollywood if producers are still accepting screenplays from him.
 
2013-05-01 03:39:06 PM

Lernaeus: The other day I was moaning about how Hollywood is getting all my money this summer ... but after reading the plot spoilers for Star Trek Into Darkness, and now reading that World War Z was written by Damon Lindelof, I'm starting to see where I can save some money.


Aw, shiat.  Lindelof wrote the new Star Trek movie, too.
 
2013-05-01 03:44:05 PM

dkimball: People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.


I think that's fair enough given there is enough to see in the trailers to be certain that it is absolutely nothing like the book. Now that might not mean it's a bad movie per se, but one wonders why they'd buy the rights to a book and then just throw it away except for the basic premise and title.
 
2013-05-01 03:58:08 PM

drxym: dkimball: People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.

I think that's fair enough given there is enough to see in the trailers to be certain that it is absolutely nothing like the book. Now that might not mean it's a bad movie per se, but one wonders why they'd buy the rights to a book and then just throw it away except for the basic premise and title.


I think that the "Underworld" explanation sums the matter up pretty well.
 
2013-05-01 04:03:45 PM

Xenomech: TheSelphie: Lindelof wrote this? LOL.  Dude's name has been tainted forever after PrometheusCowboys and AliensLost.

FTFY

The guy must be blowing cock hardcore in Hollywood if producers are still accepting screenplays from him.


Another fanboy with no idea what he's talking about.

/like most of the internet
 
2013-05-01 04:44:51 PM
Can't we just all be over zombies now?
 
2013-05-01 05:09:24 PM
I can tell this movie is going to suck because Fark has a thousand idiots dickering about how it's going to suck.  Anything that inspires such rabid fanboism probably sucked to begin with and will continue to suck forever.
 
2013-05-01 05:15:57 PM

Shadowknight: FTFA:The actor asked him to watch an edit, and told him, "The thing we really need right now is someone who is not burdened by all the history that this thing is inheriting, who can see what we've got and tell us how to get to where we need to get."

Ok, I'll be the first come out and say it:

THEN WHY BOTHER WITH BUYING THE BOOK RIGHTS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE BOOK'S STORY?


Because people go to movies based on names, not based on, say, reading/watching/listening to reviews.  Half the people who go to see the film will be going because "It's a Brad Pitt movie."  Most of the other people will be going because they read, or at least heard about, "World War Z."

It's basically the same reason why Hollywood keeps churning out sequels.  People would rather go see "Cloverfield 2" than an original move of the same genera.
 
2013-05-01 05:17:42 PM

TeDDD: "But when we started working on the script, a lot of that stuff had to fall away for the story to come together."

Trans: we kept the 'there are zombies' part, and then discarded everything that made the book great.


What made the book great?

Seriously, I've never read it.  I'm curious.
 
2013-05-01 05:17:45 PM
The face of the man who could fark up a wet dream.

www-deadline-com.vimg.net

Nice puka shell necklace there, are all the Hollywood douchebags wearing them now or just you?
 
2013-05-01 05:23:50 PM

Mr Guy: ecmoRandomNumbers: They shot this thing without knowing how the bad the ending was going to be? Did they just wake up every morning and do improv? The script supervisor probably committed hara-kiri with a clapperboard.

Not to mention, when you know what things are supposed to mean, and supposed to symbolize, and what actors are supposed to be thinking in scenes, an ending can make sense on paper.  Then you actually see what the audience sees and realize they are going to be confused and angry.


It can be extremely hard to turn a good book into a good movie.  A lot of how "easily adaptable" it is depends on things like internal monologues, point of view, and narration.  I remember people pointed out frequently that "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" was almost impossible to turn into a movie because so much of what made the book work was linguistic things such as "the ships hung in the sky much the way that bricks don't."   How are you supposed to turn that into film?
 
2013-05-01 05:27:48 PM

ciberido: TeDDD: "But when we started working on the script, a lot of that stuff had to fall away for the story to come together."

Trans: we kept the 'there are zombies' part, and then discarded everything that made the book great.

What made the book great?

Seriously, I've never read it.  I'm curious.


Think KEN BURN'S NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD; basically its written as an oral history of the war against the
Zombies 10 years or so after the fact, and each chapter is another story that focuses on individuals at various points
in the war.

There are certain zombie horror snobs who say the book sucks because 'it only has one voice'.  Their opinions can be
safely ignored. As I said above, I loathe zombie fiction (too cookie-cutter), but I blew through the book cover to cover in
about 8 hours and found myself wondering "And THEN what happened???!!!!".  He did a decent (though not perfect)
job in projecting what the world would be like after such an event going from the starting point of what the political
situation was in the early-to-mid 00's.
 
2013-05-01 06:29:06 PM

FLMountainMan: Bishniak: Ignoring the fact that the Zombies are "fast-movers" which annoy me on general principle, but I can overlook it.  The First two paragraphs talk about how wonderful the book was looking at it on a global scale, and then when it comes to the movie, they had to remove all that, making this your standard run-of-the-mill Zombie movie.  I'll just stick with Romero's Night of the Living Dead and Walking Dead for that storyline, thanks

You can't have slow-moving zombies if you are going to show the zombies taking over the Earth,  Because the audience isn't going to believe a group of slow moving, unarmored, unintelligent human with poor motor skills and no organization are going to be able to end civilization.  Because they couldn't.  Honestly, I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than I would a dozen slow zombies.

Slow zombies only work if you skip ahead to after the apocalypse and you have hordes against small groups of people.


I wouldn't say that that is the ONLY way to make slow zombies work, but yes, there has to be some justification of why slow-moving, unarmored zombies could take over the world.  Making the zombie virus be very, very contagious (smallest scratch means you've caught it), for example.  Or making the zombies nigh indestructible (which, to be fair, you touched on with "unarmored," but I was thinking more like "severed arm keeps crawling" sort of indestructible).
 
2013-05-01 06:31:27 PM

IamAwake: Raharu: See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.

Tell that to the Firefly people who felt betrayed by Serenity...


All two of them?
 
2013-05-01 06:31:49 PM

MagSeven: All they had to do was not use the title "World War Z" and this whole project would have been better received. It's sort of like they're making a Superman movie, but calling it Spider-Man.


I've almost finished my "Super Spider Man" script.  It's going to be awesome.
 
2013-05-01 06:32:01 PM
Not really random, since it's a zombie-related thread, but I just watched Exit Humanity. Not at all terribad (but keep in mind I watched Osombie, too). Any other zombie flicks set around the American Civil War?
 
2013-05-01 06:39:41 PM

Haoie: Can't we just all be over zombies now?


That's how I used to feel before I started watching The Walking Dead. That show is like heroin.
 
2013-05-01 06:39:49 PM

Komodicus: The movie also takes place over just a "few days" and centers on Brad's character. Brad, who is the one that has the rights to the book in movie form, also stated that he wanted to make a movie that he could show his kids.


There ought to be a law that says once you express concern about what your kids might think about the art you make, your career is over and you're not allowed to make art any more.
 
2013-05-01 06:46:12 PM

No Such Agency: FLMountainMan:
Honestly, I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than I would a dozen slow zombies.

I'd be more afraid of a single ill-tempered chimpanzee than most other things on this planet.


I never really had any fear of chimpanzees until someone helpfully pointed out that chimps are strong enough to rip your arm off and beat you to death with it.
 
2013-05-01 06:52:36 PM

Dr.Zom: fireclown: Max Von effing Sydow.

The best. Next time you watch Flash Gordon pay attention to his performance on the platform at Sky City where he offers Flash dominion over Earth. It's an acting class in three minutes - in the farking Flash Gordon movie. There's a minute there where you think, shiat, this guy really IS Ming the Merciless.


He was awesome as King Osric in the original Conan.  That scene sent shivers down my spine.  The man is a class act.
 
2013-05-01 07:23:09 PM

dkimball: People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.


"Predictions" that are known and observable facts based on publicly available information such as the trailer?

When is a movie exactly like the book...and why would you want it to be?  Movies add sight, sounds, movement, music from someone's perspective.  Of course it will be different than your mind's interpretation.

But it should at least be recognizable as coming from the source material.

And Zombie movies/shows.  How different can they be?

As different as war movies, cop shows, etc.  WWZ was vastly different from any known zombie fiction that had been written before it.

Think about The Walking Dead.  My family watches it...but the hospital beginning is a total ripoff of 28 days later.

And the similarities beyond that are?

Headshots kill zombies.  I really don't get how a severed head can survive.

You are starting from the premise that the dead are walking around trying to eat people, with no need for oxygen or food.  That is a suspension of disbelief that comes with the genre.  Once that is accepted, why is a severed head any less plausible?
 
2013-05-01 07:55:32 PM

Nabb1: LineNoise: You mean a book that reads like a highschool freshman creative writing paper doesn't translate well to the big screen? Color me shocked.

Heh. I enjoyed the book, and it was good in some parts but this is pretty accurate.


A work of great fiction it is not, but you can't put the damn thing down.

/Also wonders why they bought the story rights when they had no intention of filming the story.
 
2013-05-01 08:31:13 PM

peterthx: Xenomech: TheSelphie: Lindelof wrote this? LOL.  Dude's name has been tainted forever after PrometheusCowboys and AliensLost.

FTFY

The guy must be blowing cock hardcore in Hollywood if producers are still accepting screenplays from him.

Another fanboy with no idea what he's talking about.

/like most of the internet



And what are your credentials such that we should not equally dismiss you as another fanboy with no idea what he's talking about?
 
2013-05-01 08:32:30 PM

Gleeman: IamAwake: Raharu: See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.

Tell that to the Firefly people who felt betrayed by Serenity...

All two of them?


I was a reasonably big fan of Firefly and I didn't feel betrayed by Serenity.
 
2013-05-01 09:08:55 PM
Damon Lindelolf  is to scripts as Ted McGinley is to TV shows.

So long "Mad Men"!
 
2013-05-01 09:17:37 PM

ciberido: Gleeman: IamAwake: Raharu: See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.

Tell that to the Firefly people who felt betrayed by Serenity...

All two of them?

I was a reasonably big fan of Firefly and I didn't feel betrayed by Serenity.


Same here. I guess that must be all the fans of Firefly then.
 
2013-05-01 09:19:41 PM
You can't take the sky from me.
 
2013-05-01 11:13:03 PM

This text is now purple: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: If you're reading any sort of horror that you would put on a pedestal and call it literature, please tell me what it is.

Invisible Man
War of the Worlds
Frankenstein
Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde


Dracula
The Shining
Salem's Lot
I am Legend
Swan Song
Let the Right One In
 
2013-05-02 12:23:10 AM
Anything WWZ mentioned that was remotely military was absolute shiat, especially the SIR and the insane F-22-turned-C-130 pilot chick. Absolute garbage.

The rest was boring.

TL;DR: shiatty book becomes shiatty movie. I believe others have said words to that effect already.
 
2013-05-02 02:17:13 AM

ciberido: And what are your credentials such that we should not equally dismiss you as another fanboy with no idea what he's talking about?


I'm not ignoring the fact there were other people heavily involved in creating the final product for one thing.
 
2013-05-02 02:44:30 AM

duffblue: WWZ was a mildly interesting book, but it is so poorly written that I'm not surprised about the way the movie is turning out. It's like max Brooks learned everything about weapons from call of duty.


lulz, we all didnt get to join the marine core like you, man-at-arms
 
2013-05-02 11:50:56 AM

dkimball: People haven't even seen it yet and giving their predictions..ugh.
One thing I hate about imdb reviews is people who start off the review "I've read the book..."
Who cares?  It's the movie that matters.  You can't hate a movie because the book it's based on.
I wish they have a filter for "I've read the book" along with spoilers, hated, loved it...etc.

When is a movie exactly like the book...and why would you want it to be?  Movies add sight, sounds, movement, music from someone's perspective.  Of course it will be different than your mind's interpretation.

And Zombie movies/shows.  How different can they be?  Think about The Walking Dead.  My family watches it...but the hospital beginning is a total ripoff of 28 days later.  Headshots kill zombies.  I really don't get how a severed head can survive.  I've seen my fair share of zombie movies and they're all pretty much the same.   Would that be allowed for any other genre?

I think WWZ will have more action..maybe a mix between War of the Worlds, 2012, and a zombie movie of choice.


Actually, 28 Days Later Ripped off Day of the Triffids, but both 28 Days Later and the Walking Dead (comic) came out relatively close together and it was just a coincidence.
 
2013-05-02 12:53:02 PM

mongbiohazard: ciberido: Gleeman: IamAwake: Raharu: See the walking dead follows a very similar story to the comics, but is still different enough from the comics to keep me interested and watching.

Tell that to the Firefly people who felt betrayed by Serenity...

All two of them?

I was a reasonably big fan of Firefly and I didn't feel betrayed by Serenity.

Same here. I guess that must be all the fans of Firefly then.


Meant that no Browncoat I know was upset by Serenity, so I don't know who the upset people are that OP is talking about.
 
2013-05-02 04:06:48 PM

NutWrench: This. After Lost, Prometheus, etc, why the fark is this guy still being hired?


This very question sometimes keeps me up at night.  Prometheus is the very definition of wasted potential.
 
2013-05-02 04:10:06 PM

peterthx: lots of words


Lindelof, please go.
 
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