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(Scientific American)   Conspiracy theory believers more likely to reject science and behave irrationally. As if we needed a study to figure this out   (scientificamerican.com) divider line 298
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2013-05-01 07:59:10 AM
Oh.

I see that the conspiracy theorists and the hardliner assholes have turned up.

Good luck with your shiatty little thread, Drew.
 
2013-05-01 07:59:22 AM

muck4doo: Fact: Global Warming started about the same time U.F.O's started showing up. Coincidence? I think not.
Fact: They are changing our climate and atmosphere to match theirs.


That was a Charlie sheen movie. That guy is really smart
 
2013-05-01 07:59:44 AM
Is this the thread where I can lament the loss of Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell?  That was some entertaining radio.
 
2013-05-01 08:00:29 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-01 08:00:30 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: No it was only a coincidence that the Loose Change guys were in the military right before all that. There's no way the government, any government, would have ever planed misinformation campaigns, that's just silly talk.
/Again there are no conspiracies ever.


Right, because 9/11 was a conspiracy AND the government created the conspiracy theories to cover up the conspiracy

Loosen that tinfoil hat, it prevents oxygen from making it to your brain
 
2013-05-01 08:00:44 AM
Meh. Conspiracy theories are crazy until they're not. It was a "conspiracy theory" that the American government purposefully turned a blind eye to the plight of Jewish refugees in WWII...until some guys from the Treasury Department essentially blackmailed the State Department and Roosevelt with threats of going public. Then it got serious.

Instead of the thousands of other examples, I went straight for the Holocaust. Lazy, I know, but it's early.

Continue on with whatever your reptilian overlords from the Hollow Earth want you to think, though. You won't be so smug when the real bin Laden returns from Atlantis with the Spear of Longinus in his wet, tentacled grasp.
 
2013-05-01 08:02:01 AM

Facetious_Speciest: Meh. Conspiracy theories are crazy until they're not. It was a "conspiracy theory" that the American government purposefully turned a blind eye to the plight of Jewish refugees in WWII...until some guys from the Treasury Department essentially blackmailed the State Department and Roosevelt with threats of going public. Then it got serious.

Instead of the thousands of other examples, I went straight for the Holocaust. Lazy, I know, but it's early.

Continue on with whatever your reptilian overlords from the Hollow Earth want you to think, though. You won't be so smug when the real bin Laden returns from Atlantis with the Spear of Longinus in his wet, tentacled grasp.


Some crazies were claiming that the US government was running fake vaccination programs in Pakistan to find Bin Laden.

LOL. What a bunch of loons.
 
2013-05-01 08:02:25 AM
In before the lizard people.
 
2013-05-01 08:02:26 AM

Facetious_Speciest: Meh. Conspiracy theories are crazy until they're not. It was a "conspiracy theory" that the American government purposefully turned a blind eye to the plight of Jewish refugees in WWII...until some guys from the Treasury Department essentially blackmailed the State Department and Roosevelt with threats of going public. Then it got serious.


Look, no one is denying that there are cover-ups and such, it'd be stupid to believe the opposite.

On the other hand, those are not the conspiracies we're addressing. We're addressing the 9-11/Newton/Boston Marathon were false flag psy ops nubjobs
 
2013-05-01 08:02:29 AM
www.global-air.com

A conspiracy theory seeks to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act, or a pure chance situation. (new window)
 
2013-05-01 08:03:04 AM

SpdrJay: The crap I've read on conspiracy theory boards has done more to make me disbelieve conspiracies than anything else. Many of these people have readily identifiable mental illness and it doesn't lend much credibility to their ideas.


Whatever you say, Doctor of Psychiatric Medicine.

Meanwhile people turn a blind eye to human history steeped in proven conspiracies, manipulation and control by governments and religions while eating the daily propaganda.

--- mere days ago we were bombarded by derp galore while the NK Gov't was merely trotting out some hardware for the citizens to parade around during a national holiday.

--- days ago the same people whom the Russian Gov't previously warned about to those assigned to protect this country were successful in causing much pain, suffering and mayhem in Boston.
 
2013-05-01 08:03:07 AM

Deep Contact: Yeah, about that science.
 [relevantnewsmedia.files.wordpress.com image 400x294]


Is that really WTC7 in the background?
 
2013-05-01 08:04:18 AM
There are two types of people: Those who win, and those who win arguments. The two are mutually exclusive.
 
2013-05-01 08:04:48 AM

SpdrJay: The crap I've read on conspiracy theory boards has done more to make me disbelieve conspiracies than anything else. Many of these people have readily identifiable mental illness and it doesn't lend much credibility to their ideas.


I really do wonder if the likes of Alex Jones and Glenn Beck aren't suffering from paranoid delusion. And no, I'm not being hyperbolic.

It's either clever marketing to the crazies, or they're both lunatics.
 
2013-05-01 08:05:51 AM
So  the two dudes and the dudette had a threesome, taped it, and these are the  results.
 
2013-05-01 08:06:04 AM
America is getting too fat and suddenly twinkies go out of business? Shyeah right. I know the truth there. Ask yourself, who gained what? Fairway markets. That's who. Americans were too fat to reach the high places on their stores' shelves as their shame bellies would hang out as they extended. Not anymore! And do they sell lizard meat? NO! Farking lizard race
 
2013-05-01 08:06:51 AM
When he took to calling me at 0130 to rant about the latest episode or about something he'd heard from Art Bell or some shiat

Dang. Art Bell. Haven't listened to that mess in a LONG time. That there was some good stuff when you have to be up late; the crazy talk was crazy enough to tweak my brain and keep me awake.
 
2013-05-01 08:07:29 AM
I see many deniers of facts here.
 
2013-05-01 08:07:48 AM

Tatsuma: notto: When your opinions require the need for thousands of fellow citizens to keep the secret without any real motivation to do so

The same government who couldn't keep Bill Clinton's blowjob a secret was able 3 years later to pull off 9/11 without a hitch


Is there really just one, monolithic government? It seems to me that when you are talking about a beast the size of the Federal government, you are actually talking about many actors, not all of whom are on the same page.
 
2013-05-01 08:08:17 AM
fact: sheeple: Hurr hurrr derp! Charlie Sheen!
 
2013-05-01 08:09:31 AM
My beer glared at me threateningly at the last fark gathering I went to. I drank it, then went for a more conservative one.
 
2013-05-01 08:09:38 AM

Cythraul: SpdrJay: The crap I've read on conspiracy theory boards has done more to make me disbelieve conspiracies than anything else. Many of these people have readily identifiable mental illness and it doesn't lend much credibility to their ideas.

I really do wonder if the likes of Alex Jones and Glenn Beck aren't suffering from paranoid delusion. And no, I'm not being hyperbolic.

It's either clever marketing to the crazies, or they're both lunatics.


I don't think either one fits the legal definition of lunatic (well, Jones maybe), but they both know how to work it to that crowd. Considering how much money they make off their cult-of-personalty bullshiat, I'd call 'em "crazy like a fox".
 
2013-05-01 08:11:03 AM

Tatsuma: tinfoil-hat maggie: No it was only a coincidence that the Loose Change guys were in the military right before all that. There's no way the government, any government, would have ever planed misinformation campaigns, that's just silly talk.
/Again there are no conspiracies ever.

Right, because 9/11 was a conspiracy AND the government created the conspiracy theories to cover up the conspiracy

Loosen that tinfoil hat, it prevents oxygen from making it to your brain


You know what the worst conspiracy of all is? Letting people know the truth. The government farked up. Ya, I believe it's as simple as that., but for some of those fark ups certain people might have been held accountable, and well that wouldn't do would it?
/Just saying
 
2013-05-01 08:11:43 AM

muck4doo: fact: sheeple: Hurr hurrr derp! Charlie Sheen!


He puts the herp in herpa durp
 
2013-05-01 08:11:46 AM

Facetious_Speciest: Meh. Conspiracy theories are crazy until they're not. It was a "conspiracy theory" that the American government purposefully turned a blind eye to the plight of Jewish refugees in WWII...until some guys from the Treasury Department essentially blackmailed the State Department and Roosevelt with threats of going public. Then it got serious.

Instead of the thousands of other examples, I went straight for the Holocaust. Lazy, I know, but it's early.

Continue on with whatever your reptilian overlords from the Hollow Earth want you to think, though. You won't be so smug when the real bin Laden returns from Atlantis with the Spear of Longinus in his wet, tentacled grasp.


Ha! You think bin Laden's the real threat. Cute.

//never heard of the power BEHIND the throne, ignoramus? That merman is just a PAWN
 
2013-05-01 08:11:59 AM
Aar1012: A group of unrelated people are terrible!

Frank N Stein: And if they acknowledge this post, they're EVEN WORSE!

You kids and your drugs.
 
2013-05-01 08:12:05 AM
fact 1-the media makes you sheep
fact 2- conspiracy theories are a way to take a national tragedy/mundane occurrence, and create a story around it where you are the important one who has the knowledge ONLY YOU can share it with others to 'wake them up'.

So conspiracy theories are the zenith of attention whoring
 
2013-05-01 08:12:50 AM
assassinationof3u5.weebly.com
Because not believing this bullet went through 2 people and shattered one of their femurs is completely irrational and finding it extraordinarily suspicious that Governor Connally's widow refused to allow another bullet to be removed from his body after his death is even more suspicious because looking for scientific evidence is rejection of science.
 
2013-05-01 08:13:53 AM
So, where's the "It's a conspiracy" guy, on a break?
 
2013-05-01 08:14:31 AM

thecpt: America is getting too fat and suddenly twinkies go out of business? Shyeah right. I know the truth there. Ask yourself, who gained what? Fairway markets. That's who. Americans were too fat to reach the high places on their stores' shelves as their shame bellies would hang out as they extended. Not anymore! And do they sell lizard meat? NO! Farking lizard race


Yeah right. Did you SEE the cow being butchered with your OWN eyes? The reptoids have been feeding us the flesh of their weaker children (i.e. incapable of shapeshifting or even glamours) for 2 centuries now.
 
2013-05-01 08:15:00 AM

cryptozoophiliac: Is there really just one, monolithic government? It seems to me that when you are talking about a beast the size of the Federal government, you are actually talking about many actors, not all of whom are on the same page.


So then a six-month old new government pulled off 9/11 after being out of power for 8 years?
 
2013-05-01 08:17:16 AM

OscarTamerz: Because not believing this bullet went through 2 people and shattered one of their femurs is completely irrational and finding it extraordinarily suspicious that Governor Connally's widow refused to allow another bullet to be removed from his body after his death is even more suspicious because looking for scientific evidence is rejection of science.


Some good oldschool herp n'derp there, grand-pa
 
2013-05-01 08:18:27 AM

Tatsuma: untaken_name: You're just jealous.

/it's a conspiracy

Yeah, because if I had been there, I would have turned to him after this and said

'Oh, we know about that. We're watching you, Mr. Jones. You might want to avoid [subject relevant at the time]' then walked out.

THAT would have been a CSB moment.


Sure you would have. You're the guy who calls someone back two days later when you think up the put down you couldn't think of on the spot.
 
2013-05-01 08:18:39 AM
The best way to make anything seem like a hoax, is to somehow relate it to something else that is completely numbnuts.
 
2013-05-01 08:19:50 AM

Tatsuma: 9/11 never happened guys

/the first one, really? for shame thread


that was an impressive "science" experiment.

/a lot of people don't grasp basic science in this country, and mistake science for another form of politics
 
2013-05-01 08:20:26 AM
So he invoked Richard Hofstadter clearly without having any idea what Hofstadter actually argued. Hofstadter was NOT saying that that people who have the "paranoid style" of politics were actually clinical. In fact, he was trying to give a psychological and social scientific explanation as to why paranoia is and has been so prevalent in American politics. It's annoying when people invoke a thinker without having a clue what they were about.
 
2013-05-01 08:20:38 AM

untaken_name: Sure you would have. You're the guy who calls someone back two days later when you think up the put down you couldn't think of on the spot.


No actually I'm quite able to come up with witticism on the spot. Now imagine lazy ones like 'Well he's a retarded conspiracy theorist asshole, let's make a serious face and pretend to be part of the conspiracy'!
 
2013-05-01 08:20:45 AM
28 percent believe a secret elite power with a globalist agenda is conspiring to rule the world.

Is that anything like the well-known power that already rules the world?
 
2013-05-01 08:21:12 AM
For example, while it has been known for some time that people who believe in one conspiracy theory are also likely to believe in other conspiracy theories

This is obvious to anyone who has spoken to a conspiracy nut. Although it does make it really easy to disregard everything that person says and also make it easy to pull off one of these:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-05-01 08:23:21 AM

bilgemaster: So, where's the "It's a conspiracy" guy, on a break?


There's a last minute pinch hitter.

media.tumblr.com

I've stopped arguing with people on topics that deal with belief. I'll make sure they've been exposed to a realistic worldview and let them wharr their garrble and I just don't give two farks beyond that. There's some twisted reward function in the mere act of arguing for the believers.
 
2013-05-01 08:24:55 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Denigrate and alienate people who question the official story. Discount their opinions and questions and squelch dissent. Openly mock anyone who deviates from the proper groupthink. Do not give them any quarter. Make them embarrassed to ask any questions.

It's up to all of us to stop the spread of lies against the State.


Interesting. When I click on the Smart button here, the post doesn't show up in the Smart link.
 
2013-05-01 08:25:28 AM

moothemagiccow: thecpt: America is getting too fat and suddenly twinkies go out of business? Shyeah right. I know the truth there. Ask yourself, who gained what? Fairway markets. That's who. Americans were too fat to reach the high places on their stores' shelves as their shame bellies would hang out as they extended. Not anymore! And do they sell lizard meat? NO! Farking lizard race

Yeah right. Did you SEE the cow being butchered with your OWN eyes? The reptoids have been feeding us the flesh of their weaker children (i.e. incapable of shapeshifting or even glamours) for 2 centuries now.


Well no. Their burgers don't taste like their weaker bad shape shifters. The local lizard posing ignorantly as the former local police chief was pretty rough to chew. After I disposed of him I had to see what he tasted like cooked so I would know, and I got to say it was more like gamey chicken. He never morphed back to lizard state so maybe that effected it, but still nothing like those burgers. I think they've been mixing in meat from their fallen grey opponents though.
 
2013-05-01 08:31:52 AM

wildcardjack: bilgemaster: So, where's the "It's a conspiracy" guy, on a break?

There's a last minute pinch hitter.



I've stopped arguing with people on topics that deal with belief. I'll make sure they've been exposed to a realistic worldview and let them wharr their garrble and I just don't give two farks beyond that. There's some twisted reward function in the mere act of arguing for the believers.


so much of American politics is emotional, belief based... whether god based ("if you believe X, you going to hell!"), amorphous civil rights based ("if you believe X, you want to enslave women! you fundie troll!"), or whatnot.

we like to cloak things in terms of science or reason, but most of what fuels people is sewage and bull feces.
 
2013-05-01 08:34:58 AM

legion_of_doo: so much of American politics life is emotional, belief based...

 
2013-05-01 08:35:27 AM

Tatsuma: No actually I'm quite able to come up with witticism on the spot.


You're also very humble.

/and delusional, but I don't hold that against you
 
2013-05-01 08:35:48 AM
When I was taking college physics I used to assume that one or more of the equations or explanations of nuclear fission were intentionally incorrect so that students wouldn't figure out how to make a bomb.
 
2013-05-01 08:37:10 AM
The dumber you are, the more you're likely to believe there's people capable of pulling off infinitely intricate and unlikely acts of deception in the name of things you're scared of.
 
2013-05-01 08:37:24 AM
UFOs are not from outer space....they're from the secret Nazi base in Antarctica

http://www.examiner.com/article/did-us-navy-battle-ufos-protecting-n az i-antarctic-sanctuary-1947
 
2013-05-01 08:40:24 AM
Just because I am paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching me

A broad number of conspiracy theories always struck me as being nothing more than a coping mechanism people would utilize after a tragic event. By associating the event as part of an even larger and more sinister plot conducted by some organization/cabal/alien/whatever it allows the person to create a theoretical target that can be stopped. This allows people to generate an illusion of possessing some degree of control over such situation instead of feeling completely helpless.
 
2013-05-01 08:41:25 AM
 
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