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(The Blaze)   RG3 reacts to Redskins controversy by tweeting about "the tyranny of political correctness." Ngata good idea   ( theblaze.com) divider line
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2013-05-01 12:27:39 AM  
4 votes:
Somehow I think if the team was called "The Washington Negroes" he wouldn't be talking about the tyranny of political correctness.
2013-05-01 08:53:02 AM  
3 votes:

RINO: greenboy: Being a virginia indian, i have absolutely no problem with it.  Nor do the skins fans in the tribe.  What really confuses me is that the name is a source of pride.  It is a team you support and can get behind.  There is absolutely no intent to be offensive or racist and it shouldn't be taken as such.

The radio around here DC101, has brought up that they were talking about changing it redtails.  You know, i could actually live with that if it did have to change.

I don't get it, myself. Changing the name comes up every now and then, and every time it does, it's pointed out that the majority of supposedly slighted party either don't mind or actually like the name. Which begs the question that if those against whom it is supposed to be a slur approve, who is it that's pushing for the change?


Politicians who want their name in the news.
2013-05-01 12:46:20 PM  
2 votes:
If Native Americans were bothered by the team name, that would be one thing.  They're not.  They think it's awesome (just like I think "Fighting Whities" is awesome).  It's the Howard Zinn crowd that's offended, and those people are blights on the planet.
2013-05-01 08:47:54 AM  
2 votes:
Lots of sandy vaginas in this thread.

I wish I still had the link but a few years ago a survey was done among Native Americans to see if they were offended by the Redskins name and an overwhelming majority of them could not have cared less.
2013-05-01 07:30:46 AM  
2 votes:

Tellingthem: cman: Rincewind53: Somehow I think if the team was called "The Washington Swastikas" he wouldn't be talking about the tyranny of political correctness.

FTFY

Anyways, can anyone explain to me how the term Redskin became racist? It was in regular usage for quite some time and didnt always have those connotations. Indian is still acceptable even though they arent Indians. I never understood how these kinds of pejoratives are formed.

What I have noticed is that pretty much most of them are of Germanic descent (with the big exception of the n-bomb and "negro"). I am curious if that has anything to do with it (the vulgarity of Saxon words over the educated Latin words).

Honestly I really don't know but it doesn't matter because that group of people deems it offensive. Negro and colored used to acceptable as well but not anymore. I was surprised to learn the Oriental is now considered offensive. Especially considering how many businesses in my area still use it in their name. Language changes and words we use today will become derogatory or racist in the future. I think it's funny that my roommate gets pissed when people call him African American. He's from Germany and would rather be called Black (or German-American since he got his citizenship). So to him the "correct" term is offensive and would rather be called by the more incorrect term.


Sadly, I don't have access to the online OED database through the university anymore, but I looked it up a couple of years ago.  The term "redskin" was almost universally associated with natives in a pejorative manner.  It was closely associated with the concept of the "white man's burden", which was a fabricated justification for imperialism, cloaking the practice with a veneer of nobility.

As much as some people might not like it, it WILL eventually change.  Perhaps some professional sports teams like the Braves or the Indians might last longer, but "Redskin" is unequivocally a racist term and much like the NCAA filtered out the team names and mascots unless they had the full support of the related indigenous people, the Washington football team will eventually bow to the pressure and change.  And it will be the right decision.

But we can all likely agree it's got a snowball's chance in hell of happening while this schmuck - the one who cut down historic trees on his property the National Park Service specifically told him not to - is the owner.
2013-05-01 01:50:31 PM  
1 vote:
It is very interesting to see the left HATING on a black man who will not be their slave.
2013-05-01 10:44:40 AM  
1 vote:

Rhypskallion: Your German friend is not any kind of American.


He's an American by choice. I'm having a hard time reconciling this comment with the rest of your post, which seemed to be thoughtful thoroughly respectful of individual differences.

Did you simply miss the part where it said he was naturalized? Or do you reserve the term "American" for people born in America (in which case, I have to tell you, you're using the word differently from almost everybody else)?
2013-05-01 10:30:44 AM  
1 vote:

Rhypskallion: Oriental not being acceptable surprised me too, in college, 25 years ago.   Your German friend is not any kind of American.


Its a funny thing, immigration and names.

The only actual African guy that I personally know is white as a bedsheet and named Gustav. He's a programmer from Pretoria, and he sounds right out of Lethal Weapon 2.

He gets such a kick out of checking 'african american' on surveys and apps and watching the reactions people have. Since he became a naturalized citizen, he and the wife are 'african-americans' and his two kids are americans of african descent.
2013-05-01 09:34:38 AM  
1 vote:
Well, his statement isn't exactly wrong.  It's just not going to be well received in this context.
2013-05-01 09:20:24 AM  
1 vote:

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: The fact that it was in 'regular usage' by predominately white society doesn't mean it was not and is not derogatory.  Whether or not derogatory terms should be used to make stereotyping statements about individuals or groups is another matter.


Then there's white society telling a group that it oppressed what it should and shouldn't find offensive.

"'Redskin' is a perfectly cromulent word. You people should just get over it."

"The Confederate flag is part of my heritage that reminds me of my ancestors. You, however, should just forget about your own family history and get over it."
2013-05-01 09:13:58 AM  
1 vote:
Yes, such tyranny.

Political correctness is so tyrannic that Snyder is being forced to change his team name or have the team seized from him.

Oh...you mean that's not what's happening? We're just hearing from people who say the team name is offensive and should be changed, and he's ignoring them?

OMG TYRANNY.

Maybe RGIII should take a trip back to 1950 and try to drink from one of these. Then he might find out what tyranny looks like.

i139.photobucket.com
2013-05-01 08:48:01 AM  
1 vote:

GiantRex: It's not like DC has a history of controversial team names or anything like that...
[upload.wikimedia.org image 724x308]


To be fair, they were the Baltimore Bullets first.  DC was just too lazy to rename the team

upload.wikimedia.org
2013-05-01 08:19:48 AM  
1 vote:
It's not like DC has a history of controversial team names or anything like that...
upload.wikimedia.org

But seriously, why not consider renaming the Redskins as the Washington Warriors? Only the name has to change. There can still be a Native American theme, even the logo can still be the same, but they're being "respectful" instead of using a term that is, honestly, blatantly racist.
2013-05-01 08:12:15 AM  
1 vote:
Rename them the Redheads. Choose mascots accordingly. Profit.
2013-05-01 01:29:25 AM  
1 vote:

Rincewind53: Somehow I think if the team was called "The Washington Swastikas" he wouldn't be talking about the tyranny of political correctness.


FTFY

Anyways, can anyone explain to me how the term Redskin became racist? It was in regular usage for quite some time and didnt always have those connotations. Indian is still acceptable even though they arent Indians. I never understood how these kinds of pejoratives are formed.

What I have noticed is that pretty much most of them are of Germanic descent (with the big exception of the n-bomb and "negro"). I am curious if that has anything to do with it (the vulgarity of Saxon words over the educated Latin words).
 
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