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2013-05-01 09:48:10 AM  

mr lawson: In other news:

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nope
 
2013-05-01 10:11:21 AM  

fiddlehead: Okay, so a woman and a man conceive a child, but the man wants nothing to do with it.

Woman's responsibilities:
9 months of pregnancy then delivery, with all the potential risks and complications
Actually raising the child
Financial obligations

Man's responsibilities:
Financial obligations.


But MEN are the real victims here!


I don't have a problem with mandatory support obligations being imposed on fathers.  Children have a valid claim of support against both parents.

The problem in the US legal system is that it fails to recognize that the claim belongs to the child, but is frequently used by the mother as a weapon against her ex-husband/boyfriend.  It's not her money.  Of course, someone needs to spend the child's money for him/her, since children can't handle money on their own, but that disability of minority only imposes additional duties on the custodial parent -- as a kind of trustee for the child's money.

So, the only sensible way to handle the payment of child support (usually made by fathers) is to require custodial parents (who are usually mothers, at least for children 10 and under) to maintain a separate account for the child.  They should also be required to account for all expenditures, to the court and to the father, under oath, as to what the money is being used for.  And the penalty for a mother's misuse of her child's funds should be as severe as the father's non-payment of child support, which (for those of you who may not be familiar) are severe.  As in "be taken straight from the family courtroom to the jail that the bailiff keeps behind the unmarked door."  I'm all for equality.

After all, when the US government gives welfare money (food stamps/EBT, for SNAP or TANF funds) recipients (usually women) for dependent children (thereby assisting the destruction of families, by the by), the government does not merely cut them a check or a stack of cash.  It restricts the kinds of things that you can buy with that EBT money.  Of course, some of that EBT money gets spent at casinos, and some of it is swapped around with other black market traders to buy drugs and liquor, but at least there is an attempt at requiring the money that is given for a specific purpose is being used for that purpose.

Alimony should also be abolished in all cases.  I'm all for equality.  That would free up a lot of money for child support purposes.

And the disparate tax treatment of child support payers (usually men) versus recipient-trustees (usually women) is ridiculous.  The man pays income taxes on the full amount of his earnings, but must give the child support payment directly to the recipient, so if he earns $45,000 and pays a nominal one-third of it to the mother/child as child support, he gets $30,000 but is taxed on the full $45,000.  He gets no deduction for being married, so he pays the single person's rate.  He also gets no deduction for having dependents!  The mother gets that deduction.  And the recipient (the mother) pays zero taxes on what she gets, and cannot even be asked to report it.  In fact, she gets a "negative tax" (i.e., more welfare, this time administered by the IRS) in addition to the unreported income in the form of child support.  The tax treatment of this income should be more equitable.  I'm all for equality.

Also, no-fault divorce should be abolished, except where both spouses agree to it.  Most no-fault divorces are filed by women.  Men file about one-quarter of all divorces, and when they do, men assert a disproportionately larger number of fault-based claims (e.g., substance abuse and adultery).  Divorcing your spouse against his/her will, when he/she has done nothing contrary to the promises and obligations of marriage, ought to be called by its proper term -- abandoning the marriage.  The person who abandons a marriage ought to be allowed to do so (after all, it's a free country), but should still walk away with nothing.
 
2013-05-01 10:27:04 AM  

Kimothy: Good. Can't wait to see the fundies crying in their Cheerios over this one.


Doesn't mean it will be available.  One way or another, some states will see to it that teenagers at least can't get it.
 
2013-05-01 11:01:50 AM  

serial_crusher: fiddlehead: But MEN are the real victims here!

Agreed.  If life begins at birth, you can't possibly presume to hold a man financially responsible for a child whose birth he didn't participate in.  Might as well pick some random stranger off the street and make him pay child support.


He participated in the creation of it.

/And life begins at conception
//A fetus is alive, it just doesn't have rights that usurp the woman carrying it.
 
2013-05-01 11:19:09 AM  
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Wedge Issue go down the hole.
 
2013-05-01 11:44:15 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: OgreMagi: Marcus Aurelius: Just think how many abortions this will prevent.  Surely the anti-abortionists will be rejoicing at this news.

I actually had the following argument with a fundy:

Me: I'd rather we spend a few dollars funding cheap birth control instead of paying for abortions or unwanted babies.
Fundy: But they should pay for their own!
Me: I agree, but since they can't, I'm willing to live with the small cost of subsidized birth control.
Fundy: But they should pay for their own!
Me: They are poor.  Would you rather pay for birth control or an abortion?
Fundy:  They shouldn't have sex if they can't afford it!
Me: You can't stop human nature.  People will have sex.
Fundy: I shouldn't have to pay for it.
Me: So you would rather pay for an abortion or for another welfare baby?
Fundy: They should abstain from sex!
Me: Your driving down a road.  Up ahead is a T intersection.  You can turn right or left.  Those are your only two choices.  You insist on going straight, driving off a cliff, and plunging into the rocks below.

In recent years, I've realized that a large number of conservative responses to societal ills boil down to "We shouldn't do anything to help because it wouldn't be a problem if everyone did what I think they should do." See sex ed., welfare, medicare, social security, gun control, drug rehab, sub-prime mortgages, health insurance, payday loans, and the minimum wage for examples.

 (As a corollary, "doing what I think they should do" generally requires people to magically become Nietzschen supermen. I had a frightening conversation about a month ago with a woman ranting about "Obamacare." Her answer to the problem of people not having insurance was that everyone should get insurance through their employer or buy it if their employer doesn't offer it. If you can't afford it, save more money, get a better job, or get another job, and quit whining. More disturbingly, though, she advocated that emergency rooms should demand cash up front for tr ...


Being raised Neo-Con, this is their thinking 100%.

When we where dirt poor as a child, due to not having health insurance, a sick Dad, and a disabled child, my parents didn't sign up for food stamps or welfare because it was "shameful".

She's now wised up and made sure my disabled brother got unemployment insurance when he was laid off from his job. She's looking into putting him on medicare when he's too old to be on my Mom's insurance.

People have to look at these services as more of a loan/preventative measure than a handout. IMHO, I would love for a team of accutaries to look into assistance programs (for rich and poor) and figure out the best means for the economy and society as a whole.

/Reason and logic instead of rhetoric and slogans
 
2013-05-01 11:49:53 AM  
I feel more comfortable killing a growing child now that it dies before it becomes visually appealing to me.
 
2013-05-01 12:15:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: basemetal: Hell yeah, now you can roofie them at night

So Plan A?



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2013-05-01 12:52:06 PM  
Regardless of how one feels about the subject matter, this sure was one entertaining-as-hell thread to read.  This is one for the record books, FARK!
 
2013-05-01 12:57:03 PM  

skozlaw: doczoidberg: Why the hell is this available over the county, but you still need a prescription to get regular birth control???

You don't.

But since you mean therapeutic, hormonal birth control, because it has potentially serious side effects and a doctor should be involved in the process to ensure that something doesn't go terribly wrong.

You wouldn't want to give it to a smoker with a history of blood clots, for example.



What are you talking about?

It's impossible to get birth control without having to beg some stupid doctor.
 
2013-05-01 01:02:10 PM  

doczoidberg: What are you talking about?

It's impossible to get birth control without having to beg some stupid doctor.


A condom is a form of birth control.  One does not have to go to a doctor to obtain a condom.
 
2013-05-01 01:04:31 PM  

doczoidberg: What are you talking about?

It's impossible to get birth control without having to beg some stupid doctor.


Five minutes at planned parenthood or the local health department would prove otherwise.

You don't have to "beg" anyone for birth control. On the same venue, no reasonable doctor is going to give you a hormonal contraceptive if you have a history of breast cancer, or are a high risk patient (DVT/PE, Clotting Abnormalities, etc).
 
2013-05-01 01:07:01 PM  
You bet your balls I'm going to create a giant farking shiatfit if I ever need to purchase any and come across a fundie cashier trying to get in my way.

/if your religion prevents you from performing very basic functions of your job
//then you need to find yourself a new damn job... preferably within your church, not out in secular society
 
2013-05-01 01:08:48 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: When do they start selling Viagra OTC? Seems like it would be a nice counterbalance.


Good luck getting your heart medication OTC buddy.  Especially for those "off-label" uses.
 
2013-05-01 01:09:45 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Aarontology: Because they're two entirely different issues.

How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.


You do not have the right to put a teen with potentially abusive parents into a potentially deadly situation.
 
2013-05-01 01:11:08 PM  

gadian: How long until pharmacies and department stores refuse to carry it regardless?


Depends on how quickly they want to be sued into oblivion.
 
2013-05-01 01:14:08 PM  

HoratioGates: The only problem I have with Plan B is I really can see some guys drugging girls with it.  I don't know if anyone has thought to do it yet, but it might not be a bad idea to make it have a really obvious taste, maybe even some dye so it can't be mixed in food.  That's probably a good idea for several drugs on the market.


You've never taken Plan B before.  It already DOES have a really obvious taste.  It's absolutely disgusting.
 
2013-05-01 01:16:04 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Weaver95: Infernalist: LibertyHiller: I see a farkton of men arguing about this in every thread.

Hey, I've got a crazy idea: How about if everybody who isn't capable of bearing children shut the fark up about what you think someone else should do in the areas of birth control and pregnancy? If you can't do it, you don't get to have an opinion, per the Basic Rule of Life #7: Mind Your Own Farking Business.

Hey, some of my best friends are women.  promiscuous women at that.

so you're saying I got a shot with some of 'em?

That entire argument is stupid. And women know its stupid.
yes men cant bear childeren. However we can father them. And often have to foot the bill for them.

so our opinion is just as valid as yours is. Dont like it than dont have sex.
takes 2 to make a child. So its an issue that applies to both genders. Being a female doesnt make your thoughts on it more valid. Just cause its in your womb and gestates there doesnt mean you have more rights to it than the father.

again dont like that fact. Than dont breed


Don't like the idea that I might want to abort your baby?  Then don't sleep with me.

I will take ALL precautions available to me, but if a zygote appears regardless, you bet your ass I'm getting that little pre-bastard vacuumed out.

Don't like it?  Then keep it in your pants, stud.
 
2013-05-01 01:17:45 PM  

ciberido: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Infernalist: Rivetman1.0: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Who never had any sex ed

No, what should be told is how important talking to your children about reproduction and sex before this unplanned and unwanted pregnancy occurs.

lol yeah, their idea of 'talking about sex' comes down to "DON'T YOU FARKING FARK AROUND, YOU SLUT!" if a girl..

If a guy, then it's "Do whatever, just don't get caught, boy."

Meh. Some people are like that. Though I only have a son.

Thank God.


It's unfortunate that he has any children, really.
 
2013-05-01 01:18:04 PM  

illannoyin: Infernalist: I sincerely doubt that a single 15 year old out there will have any issues at all getting this if they truly want it.

They have little issue getting their hands on cigarettes and/or liquor, after all.  I would suspect that the same 18+ crowd that enables their bad habits will be more than happy to help them with this, as well.

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And now, a CSB from me...

A friend of mine is a pharmacy tech. He told me one day a wild eyed man ran up to the window and breathlessly shouted "I need the plan B! I need the plan B!"

/D.C. v. Heller will be overturned right after Roe v. Wade
//It's over. Get over it.


Yeah, that was me. Condoms break sometimes
 
2013-05-01 01:19:51 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: BarkingUnicorn: teenage mutant ninja rapist: HoratioGates: The only problem I have with Plan B is I really can see some guys drugging girls with it.  I don't know if anyone has thought to do it yet, but it might not be a bad idea to make it have a really obvious taste, maybe even some dye so it can't be mixed in food.  That's probably a good idea for several drugs on the market.

Ah. So its a problem cause men.

got it

I expect parents of both sexes will slip Plan B to their daughters.  But mainly, it will be men doing it.

Like I said before. Plan b comes with side effects. Some can be serious.

when exactly is it that females will take responsibility for themselves and stop passing the buck onto men?


When you kill yourself.
 
2013-05-01 01:20:12 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You bet your balls I'm going to create a giant farking shiatfit if I ever need to purchase any and come across a fundie cashier trying to get in my way.


Please video that "giant farking shiatfit" and put it on YouTube.  I'd like to behold the boot-quaking terribleness that you're capable of generating when you don't get your way in life.
 
2013-05-01 01:22:53 PM  

Phinn: The My Little Pony Killer: You bet your balls I'm going to create a giant farking shiatfit if I ever need to purchase any and come across a fundie cashier trying to get in my way.

Please video that "giant farking shiatfit" and put it on YouTube.  I'd like to behold the boot-quaking terribleness that you're capable of generating when you don't get your way in life.


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2013-05-01 01:23:38 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Alphax: Fark the UN, too.  Health and well-being are not human rights.  It is not incumbent upon others to provide them to you.  It may be in the self-interest of others, but that's a different story.

How sociopathic of you.

So now it's a human right to have others feel your pain? LOL!


No, it's a thing that normal human beings are able to experience.  It's called "empathy" and ALL non-sociopathic models come equipped with it.
 
2013-05-01 01:24:17 PM  

Githerax: I feel more comfortable killing a growing child now that it dies before it becomes visually appealing to me.


I'm comfortable killing it at any step along the way, because I ~really~ don't want any children.
 
2013-05-01 01:25:15 PM  

spman: The average 15 year old today is far too busy playing Yu Gi Oh or Call or Duty or whatever nonsense the kids are into now, to be bothered socializing with females. I know more people today ranging in age from 16-30 that aren't having sex, and couldn't find someone to have sex with even if they wanted to, than in any other time in history, and most of them don't even care and don't want to try, so the whole hormones, human nature, kids are going to be kids argument is a load of bunk.


Wow.  That could be the stupidest thing I've ever read.  Kids don't have raging hormones?  The urge to procreate isn't part of human nature?  Kids aren't going to be kids?

Wow.
 
2013-05-01 01:26:05 PM  

Phinn: The My Little Pony Killer: You bet your balls I'm going to create a giant farking shiatfit if I ever need to purchase any and come across a fundie cashier trying to get in my way.

Please video that "giant farking shiatfit" and put it on YouTube.  I'd like to behold the boot-quaking terribleness that you're capable of generating when you don't get your way in life.


Better yet, I'll tape the expulsion of the little shiat once I actually do get my way.  Then you can slap the image up on your little posters and go cry about its "right" to life.
 
2013-05-01 01:32:44 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Phinn: The My Little Pony Killer: You bet your balls I'm going to create a giant farking shiatfit if I ever need to purchase any and come across a fundie cashier trying to get in my way.

Please video that "giant farking shiatfit" and put it on YouTube.  I'd like to behold the boot-quaking terribleness that you're capable of generating when you don't get your way in life.

Better yet, I'll tape the expulsion of the little shiat once I actually do get my way.  Then you can slap the image up on your little posters and go cry about its "right" to life.


I am fully in support of any plan that will ensure that you do not reproduce.
 
2013-05-01 01:33:31 PM  

TomD9938: theorellior: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Probably another Hitler, thank God.

Aside from his love of committing genocide, Hitler had a lot going for him.


He did have a number of Solutions to problems.  Some very Final.
 
2013-05-01 01:36:53 PM  

Harry_Seldon: Maureen McGovern approves...

//now...this is too obscure.


oh, hardly my dear.
 
2013-05-01 01:57:24 PM  

TomD9938: bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

They wont remember a thing and they can fark like rabbits the rest of their lives and we wont have to worry about their hell-spawn getting their hands on our stuff.


Personally I'd rather prevent pregnancies before they happen or terminate them as early as possible than go around murdering babies, but to each his own I guess.

Sicko.
 
2013-05-01 02:00:28 PM  

yourmomlovestetris: I have to laugh at feminists who scream for a woman's right to an abortion, then turn around and advocate for laws against prostitution. If they really cared about a woman's right to do whatever she wanted with her own body, they wouldn't care if she chose to monetize her sexuality. It would be her body, her choice. (I'm of course, talking about regulated prostitution, not "drug addict being slapped around by a pimp" prostitution.)

For that matter, why shouldn't a woman be allowed to imbibe or inhale whatever drug she wants? If we agree that people's choices about their own bodies are sacrosanct, then why are illegal drugs criminalized? Shouldn't a person be allowed to put whatever drug they want into their own body?


I'm pro-choice.
Pro-legalizing prostitution (which would pretty much end women being abused by pimps AND cut down on disease)
Pro-legalizing drugs. ALL drugs. There are laws that deal with committing crimes while on drugs or driving under the influence. FAR more crimes would be eliminated.
While we're at it, I think gambling should be legal. So should gay marriage. And polygamous marriage.

Consenting adults should be able to do what they want with their lives/bodies. That right should only stop when it affects someone else in a criminal way.
 
2013-05-01 02:10:12 PM  

GnomePaladin: TomD9938: bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

They wont remember a thing and they can fark like rabbits the rest of their lives and we wont have to worry about their hell-spawn getting their hands on our stuff.

Personally I'd rather prevent pregnancies before they happen or terminate them as early as possible than go around murdering babies, but to each his own I guess.

Sicko.


Consider Plan B as a self-administered population control program.

A Democrat/Socialist/Criminal Population Control Program.
 
2013-05-01 02:24:45 PM  

GnomePaladin: TomD9938: bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

They wont remember a thing and they can fark like rabbits the rest of their lives and we wont have to worry about their hell-spawn getting their hands on our stuff.

Personally I'd rather prevent pregnancies before they happen or terminate them as early as possible than go around murdering babies, but to each his own I guess.

Sicko.


Murdering babies?

I suggested sterilizing the newborns of the poor at birth in support of Bingethinkers evidence that it's their children who will become tomorrows criminals.

You suggested "terminating" them as early as possible.

Who's the murderous one here?
 
2013-05-01 02:31:56 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You do not have the right to put a teen with potentially abusive parents into a potentially deadly situation.


So according to your logic, schools shouldn't notify parents when their kids misbehave. Wouldn't want little Sally getting her ass beat for smoking in the bathroom, would we?
 
2013-05-01 02:50:41 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Forgive me if you've read my solution before:

Temporarily sterilize everyone at birth.
Reverse sterilization when a person qualifies for a mortgage
Pay off the ones that can't be reversed for some reason.

Yeah, some will go broke after becoming fertile or breeding.  But a lot of shiat would be avoided.



I would like to start an organization to provide financial compensation for voluntary sterilization.  A woman would receive a maximum of $50,000 decreasing with number of children and expected remaining fecundity.  While this amount may seem excessive, the public costs of raising unwanted children are staggering.  The cost of a single publicly funded birth is more than $11,000.  Food stamps age 0-18: $20,000.  Medicaid age 0-18: $36,000. K-12 education $132,000.
Men would receive a flat $10,000 for a vasectomy.
 
2013-05-01 03:05:30 PM  

ciberido: Tumunga: Popcorn Johnny: Aarontology: Because they're two entirely different issues.

How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.

Nope, the guvment is taking care of your kids now. Didn't you get the memo?

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So delicious!


Is that you licking off the left-over nut I blew on Scott Tenorman's face?
 
2013-05-01 03:09:52 PM  
Well, we sell coat hangers over the counter so why not?

/shouldn't be sold to minors but it is profit for the pharmaceutical companies so it had to be done right?
 
2013-05-01 03:12:43 PM  

Vegetative reproduction: BarkingUnicorn: Forgive me if you've read my solution before:

Temporarily sterilize everyone at birth.
Reverse sterilization when a person qualifies for a mortgage
Pay off the ones that can't be reversed for some reason.

Yeah, some will go broke after becoming fertile or breeding.  But a lot of shiat would be avoided.


I would like to start an organization to provide financial compensation for voluntary sterilization.  A woman would receive a maximum of $50,000 decreasing with number of children and expected remaining fecundity.  While this amount may seem excessive, the public costs of raising unwanted children are staggering.  The cost of a single publicly funded birth is more than $11,000.  Food stamps age 0-18: $20,000.  Medicaid age 0-18: $36,000. K-12 education $132,000.
Men would receive a flat $10,000 for a vasectomy.


Lets keep the pay-outs fair and equal eh? Why would a man being sterilized be worth less? If the end result is never having kids, men should be treated equally.
 
2013-05-01 03:14:57 PM  

fiddlehead: Okay, so a woman and a man conceive a child, but the man wants nothing to do with it.

Woman's responsibilities: option:
9 months of pregnancy then delivery, with all the potential risks and complications
Actually raising the child
Financial obligations

Man's responsibilities:
Financial obligations.


But MEN are the real victims here!

 
2013-05-01 03:16:00 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You've never taken Plan B before.  It already DOES have a really obvious taste.  It's absolutely disgusting.


Yeah, I figured it might.  I've never seen mention of the taste.  I don't expect to ever need to take it, barring some medical miracle (I did see some woman just got pregnant using a donated uterus, but as a guy who really doesn't want to get pregnant, I'm probably farther down the list for needing a pregnancy test.)   I still have a hard time drinking grape or cherry flavored soda because of the years of liquid Dimetapp I took as a kid.

The closest I've ever come to menstruating was when I had severe heartburn once.  Over the course of a couple days I took the maximum dose of cherry flavored Maalox.  After two days the food dye started working it's way out the other end and I panicked.  I was halfway to the phone to call the doctor when I realized it was just food coloring.  The closest I've ever come to being pregnant was a kidney stone.
 
2013-05-01 03:21:01 PM  

Harry_Seldon: BarkingUnicorn: 3. prevent attachment


That picture is equal parts hilarious and disturbing.

Also, I see I'm gonna have to fill the ignore list again when I get home. For some, it'll be their first appearance. Others will be coming back to a permanent posting.
 
2013-05-01 03:22:16 PM  
Things would be different if we looked at unwanted pregnancy as a tort.  She'd have a duty to mitigate her damages by getting an abortion or at least putting the kid up for adoption.  OTOH, the father would be liable for her medical and psychological therapy expenses.
 
2013-05-01 03:25:44 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Vegetative reproduction: BarkingUnicorn: Forgive me if you've read my solution before:

Temporarily sterilize everyone at birth.
Reverse sterilization when a person qualifies for a mortgage
Pay off the ones that can't be reversed for some reason.

Yeah, some will go broke after becoming fertile or breeding.  But a lot of shiat would be avoided.


I would like to start an organization to provide financial compensation for voluntary sterilization.  A woman would receive a maximum of $50,000 decreasing with number of children and expected remaining fecundity.  While this amount may seem excessive, the public costs of raising unwanted children are staggering.  The cost of a single publicly funded birth is more than $11,000.  Food stamps age 0-18: $20,000.  Medicaid age 0-18: $36,000. K-12 education $132,000.
Men would receive a flat $10,000 for a vasectomy.

Lets keep the pay-outs fair and equal eh? Why would a man being sterilized be worth less? If the end result is never having kids, men should be treated equally.


Assuming some level of promiscuity, sterilizing a man does not prevent a child from being born.  Since men's fertility does not significantly decrease with age, a man would always get $10,000 regardless of age or how many children he has fathered.
 
2013-05-01 03:27:10 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: BarkingUnicorn: Alphax: Fark the UN, too.  Health and well-being are not human rights.  It is not incumbent upon others to provide them to you.  It may be in the self-interest of others, but that's a different story.

How sociopathic of you.

So now it's a human right to have others feel your pain? LOL!

No, it's a thing that normal human beings are able to experience.  It's called "empathy" and ALL non-sociopathic models come equipped with it.


Most people do experience empathy.  But they don't owe it to others and they don't owe you any duty to act upon it.  Restraining oneself from doing what others want out of a false sense of obligation is a healthy thing.
 
2013-05-01 03:42:19 PM  

Phinn: GnomePaladin: TomD9938: bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

They wont remember a thing and they can fark like rabbits the rest of their lives and we wont have to worry about their hell-spawn getting their hands on our stuff.

Personally I'd rather prevent pregnancies before they happen or terminate them as early as possible than go around murdering babies, but to each his own I guess.

Sicko.

Consider Plan B as a self-administered population control program.

A Democrat/Socialist/Criminal Population Control Program.


You wish.  More like a Population Control Program for abstinence-only education proponents.
 
2013-05-01 03:53:02 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: The My Little Pony Killer: You do not have the right to put a teen with potentially abusive parents into a potentially deadly situation.

So according to your logic, schools shouldn't notify parents when their kids misbehave. Wouldn't want little Sally getting her ass beat for smoking in the bathroom, would we?



Congratulations Johnny! You are one of the very few people going to my ignore list.

You are willfully ignorant, and happy about it.
 
2013-05-01 06:03:27 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Vegetative reproduction: BarkingUnicorn: Forgive me if you've read my solution before:

Temporarily sterilize everyone at birth.
Reverse sterilization when a person qualifies for a mortgage
Pay off the ones that can't be reversed for some reason.

Yeah, some will go broke after becoming fertile or breeding.  But a lot of shiat would be avoided.


I would like to start an organization to provide financial compensation for voluntary sterilization.  A woman would receive a maximum of $50,000 decreasing with number of children and expected remaining fecundity.  While this amount may seem excessive, the public costs of raising unwanted children are staggering.  The cost of a single publicly funded birth is more than $11,000.  Food stamps age 0-18: $20,000.  Medicaid age 0-18: $36,000. K-12 education $132,000.
Men would receive a flat $10,000 for a vasectomy.

Lets keep the pay-outs fair and equal eh? Why would a man being sterilized be worth less? If the end result is never having kids, men should be treated equally.


Actually, it's far more logical to encourage male sterilization.

1 guy can knock up multiple chicks at the same time, a chick is pretty much down to 1 pregnancy a year.

I would kill for that Indian temporary sterilization that lasts 10 years, encourage parents to sign their sons up at 14 for a big stipend and you'll virtually end teen pregnancy in 1 generation.

I'm willing to bet even hardcore Neo-Cons would sign their sons up, because when men have lots of sex they're "studs" or "To protect them from evil sluts".
 
2013-05-01 06:36:48 PM  

Raharu: Congratulations Johnny! You are one of the very few people going to my ignore list.


So what you're saying is" Oh shiat, he made a valid point and I have no rebuttal". Got it, thanks.
 
2013-05-01 06:37:07 PM  

Graffito: Phinn: GnomePaladin: TomD9938: bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

They wont remember a thing and they can fark like rabbits the rest of their lives and we wont have to worry about their hell-spawn getting their hands on our stuff.

Personally I'd rather prevent pregnancies before they happen or terminate them as early as possible than go around murdering babies, but to each his own I guess.

Sicko.

Consider Plan B as a self-administered population control program.

A Democrat/Socialist/Criminal Population Control Program.

You wish.  More like a Population Control Program for abstinence-only education proponents.


You're not familiar with the demographics of the women who get abortions, are you?
 
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