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2013-04-30 09:53:32 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: We were so close too. sigh


He's wrong how?

phillistine: TLDR thread.  Has anyone suggested binding it with flouride in the drinking water in the top twenty five most dangerous zip codes?


Newsletter, STAT!
 
2013-04-30 09:53:41 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: Not really, no.  Not when it comes to medical stuff.  Didn't we go through this already?

You're 100% wrong and would know that if you spent 2.5 seconds researching it.

Link


There are three situations when the parent would not be the minor's personal representative under the Privacy Rule. These exceptions are:
When the minor is the one who consents to care and the consent of the parent is not required under State or other applicable law
 
2013-04-30 09:53:47 PM  

imgod2u: Red Shirt Blues: When do they start selling Viagra OTC? Seems like it would be a nice counterbalance.

For kicks, go to the store at 2am and buy:
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I've never really focused on that poster before. The leer on that car's "face" is positively lewd.
Of course, that was back when she was hot.
 
2013-04-30 09:54:03 PM  
I still don't get why the host has to sing every other song.
 
2013-04-30 09:54:22 PM  

GoldSpider: He's wrong how?


I already covered it. Like three goddamn times.
 
2013-04-30 09:54:34 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I still don't get why the host has to sing every other song.


Because JESUS
 
2013-04-30 09:55:10 PM  
Plan A: Catholic girl virginity.
 
2013-04-30 09:55:20 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: Not really, no.  Not when it comes to medical stuff.  Didn't we go through this already?

You're 100% wrong and would know that if you spent 2.5 seconds researching it.

Link


Maybe you should have spent more than 2.5 seconds reading that link.
 
2013-04-30 09:56:11 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: UNC_Samurai: In this case, it's our duty as a society to provide people with access to fertilization prevention.

And parents have a right to know what their children are doing.


This. When I was a teenager, my folks always knew EXACTLY what I was up to.


No, really.


I mean it - stop laughing.
 
2013-04-30 09:56:17 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: It really isnt solely hers. a man could refuse sex.

Yes, he could! Then he's made his choice and we wouldn't be having a discussion about pregnancy at all! See how that works?

teenage mutant ninja rapist: even still your original point was men should shut up about the entire topic cause they dont get pregnant.

No, someone else posted that. My original and remaining point is that women get pregnant so they get to make the decision on what to do with that pregnancy. That's it.

teenage mutant ninja rapist: figure were on the same side and were arguing about semantics

I believe we are on the same side but you took my comments to mean that the man has no say after the pregnancy, and that's not what I meant nor what I believe. That's a whole separate thing.


I take the issue personally. Cause it causes me headaches and pain on a daily basis when it comes to my boy.

many women including my ex seem to view a child as being theirs! Not ours. But theirs.

it pisses me off cause the entire time she was pregnant I was there to. The day he was born I was at the hospital before she was.

and from waht ive read so far. It seemed to me that you think since its the woman that carries the child. Shes more entitled to an opinion on the issue than a male is. Therefore a child belongs more to her than him. And I wanted to point out that gestation aside men are there to. Every step of the way in many cases.

Being one gender or another doesnt make an opinion more or less valid. Atleast I dont see it that way. And I dont see it that way because of my own personal experience
 
2013-04-30 09:56:19 PM  
For poor people, OTC Plan B is the best argument for condoms ever.

Plan B costs between $25 and $75 and you get one shot.

Condoms are $10 for a 12-pack.

Poor people ARE capable of math.
 
2013-04-30 09:56:39 PM  
sigh.

Another room heavily populated with men/boys trying to determine and exercise their authority over the deployment and use of women's uterus'

Guys.
Once you make your "deposit", it's no longer your choice.
The only control over reproductive rights that you have is who/where/when you take your best shot.  Or not.

I'd like to hear the ladies reaction to the FDA action.  Not the guy's reaction.

/kinda sad, really.
 
2013-04-30 09:56:59 PM  

Infernalist: There are three situations when the parent would not be the minor's personal representative under the Privacy Rule. These exceptions are:
When the minor is the one who consents to care and the consent of the parent is not required under State or other applicable law


That means that there can be situations that don't require consent, that's a hell of a lot different than the claim you made that parents don't have access to their kids medical care. This is clearly a situation where parents should have to be notified.
 
2013-04-30 09:57:18 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: Not really, no.  Not when it comes to medical stuff.  Didn't we go through this already?

You're 100% wrong and would know that if you spent 2.5 seconds researching it.

Link


Except had you actually spent 2.5 seconds researching the applicable laws pertaining to where adolescent children are acting as individuals and not as a part of a parent-child-provider relationship, you'd realize that there is a major exception to the law requiring parents have access to that information without their permission..

Minors Acting as Individuals
A minor is considered "the individual" who can exercise rights under the rule in one of three circumstances. The first situation-and the one that is likely to occur most often-is when the minor has the right to consent to health care and has consented, such as when a minor has consented to treatment of an STD under a state minor consent law. The second situation is when the minor may legally receive the care without parental consent, and the minor or another individual or a court has consented to the care, such as when a minor has requested and received court approval to have an abortion without parental consent or notification. The third situation is when a parent has assented to an agreement of confidentiality between the health care provider and the minor, which occurs most often when an adolescent is seen by a physician who knows the family. In each of these circumstances, the parent is not the personal representative of the minor and does not automatically have the right of access to health information specific to the situation, unless the minor requests that the parent act as the personal representative and have access.

Parents' Access to Information
A minor who is considered "the individual" may exercise most of the same rights as an adult under the regulation, with one important exception. Provisions that are specific to unemancipated minors determine whether a parent who is not the minor's personal representative under the rule may have access to the minor's protected health information. On this issue, the HIPAA privacy rule defers to "state or other applicable law."

If a state or other law explicitly requires information to be disclosed to a parent, the rule allows a health care provider to comply with that law and to disclose the information. If a state or other law explicitly permits, but does not require, information to be disclosed to a parent, the rule allows a provider to exercise discretion to disclose or not. If a state or other law prohibits disclosure of information or records to a parent without the minor's consent, the rule does not allow a provider to disclose without the minor's permission. If state or other law is silent on the question of parents' access, a provider or health plan has discretion to determine whether to grant access to a parent who requests it. Although some comments on the proposed rule suggested that this decision should be made by the treating provider, the rule does not require this. In most situations of direct clinical care, it would be desirable for the treating provider to make determinations about access to a minor's protected health information. Where this is not feasible or appropriate, such as when health plans receive requests for records, the rule stipulates that at a minimum the determination must be made by a licensed health care professional exercising professional judgment.

Special Privacy Protections
Two important provisions of the HIPAA privacy rule allow minors who are treated as "individuals" to request special privacy protections. First, these minors may request that health care providers and health plans communicate with them in a confidential manner: by e-mail rather than by phone, or at a place other than their home, for example.Also, they may request limitations on disclosure of information for treatment, payment or health care operations that could ordinarily occur without their authorization, although the extent to which providers and plans are required to honor such requests varies by the type of request and to whom it is made. These requests may be particularly important when a minor believes that disclosure of information would result in specific danger.

The privacy rule allows a health care provider or health plan not to treat a parent as a minor's personal representative, given a reasonable belief that the parent has subjected or may subject the minor to domestic violence, abuse or neglect, or that treating the parent as the personal representative could endanger the minor. The provider or plan must also decide that it is not in the minor's best interest to treat the parent as the personal representative. In addition, the rule allows a licensed health care professional to deny a parent who is a personal representative access to a minor's protected health information if, in the professional's judgment, access would likely cause substantial harm to the minor or someone else. Finally, it allows a provider or health plan to disclose a minor's protected health information in order to prevent or diminish an imminent threat to the health and safety of a person or the public. These provisions apply to adults as well as minors but have different implications for minors, specifically with respect to disclosure of information to parents.
 
2013-04-30 09:57:42 PM  

Infernalist: Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: Not really, no.  Not when it comes to medical stuff.  Didn't we go through this already?

You're 100% wrong and would know that if you spent 2.5 seconds researching it.

Link

There are three situations when the parent would not be the minor's personal representative under the Privacy Rule. These exceptions are:
When the minor is the one who consents to care and the consent of the parent is not required under State or other applicable law


Heaven forbid a young women get access to contraception or fertilization prevention if her parents don't believe in providing it.

It sucks that there are situations where parents stand between their children and their children's health, but that is EXACTLY why everyone should have the right to reproductive health.
 
2013-04-30 09:57:46 PM  

TomD9938: ryant123: If girls have sex, parents shouldn't be allowed to force them to compromise their health by going through an unwanted pregnancy, or to have their vaginas ripped apart in childbirth against their will.

And if my 15 year old wants to keep the baby?  Can I compel her to abort, seeing as I'd be the one raising another child?


Wait, it's against the law for you not to raise your child's kid?
 
2013-04-30 09:57:51 PM  

Infernalist: radarlove: GoldSpider: You clearly have a bronze-age view of women's reproductive rights.

How so?

He's inserting the words of the 'liberal' that lives in his brain.  Since no one in reality would actually say that, he has to substitute fantasy instead.


Yeah, I didn't really understand where that statement of his tied in at all with my statements about the potential increase in STD risks.

Apparently thinking kids should wear rubbers when they f*ck to keep from getting AIDS makes me a bible thumping, woman-stoning zealot.

FARK is always teaching me new things.
 
2013-04-30 09:57:52 PM  

TheOnion: Anthracite: TheOnion: Popcorn Johnny: So it's not legal for a 15 year old to consent to sex, but it's just fine if she buys a morning after pill without parental permission? Not really understanding the logic behind that decision.

Should we also ban the purchase of contraception?

Also, it's legal for a 15 year old to have sex with another 15 year old.  And they do it all the time without worrying much about the law (and would continue to do so even if it were illegal).  Since this is going to happen anyway, we would at least like to limit the number of children produced from the activity.

You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.

I'm not assuming anything.  15 year olds have sex.  It's a fact.  The legality of the issue sure doesn't stop them either.  The only question is do we want them to be able to legally purchase protection.  If we say yes, we accept that they'll have sex, but the availability of protection should reduce the rate of STDs and unplanned pregnancy.  If we say no, we accept that they'll have sex, but pay the price of increased STDs and unplanned pregnancy for the benefit of...something.


I told my daughter about this tonight. And reiterated that while I do not condone her having sex (she hasn't yet) if something should ever happen and she has a reason to think contraception may have failed, to let me know immediately as she would now have a back up. We've also discussed how this is by no means a get out of being knocked up free pill, it is something I would help her get should the need arise. Communication helps tremendously.
 
2013-04-30 09:57:54 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: Not really, no.  Not when it comes to medical stuff.  Didn't we go through this already?

You're 100% wrong and would know that if you spent 2.5 seconds researching it.

Link

Maybe you should have spent more than 2.5 seconds reading that link.


If only more Farkers were as wise Uni...

/curtsies
 
2013-04-30 09:57:56 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: There are three situations when the parent would not be the minor's personal representative under the Privacy Rule. These exceptions are:
When the minor is the one who consents to care and the consent of the parent is not required under State or other applicable law

That means that there can be situations that don't require consent, that's a hell of a lot different than the claim you made that parents don't have access to their kids medical care. This is clearly a situation where parents should have to be notified.


I'd bother responding, but hardinparamedic has it covered.
 
2013-04-30 09:59:07 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: I already covered it. Like three goddamn times.


Dusk-You-n-Me: My argument is that any decision about the pregnancy is solely hers. And that won't change until men can get pregnant.


So then the statement "Guy gets girl pregnant his option is what she decides." is precisely what that means.
 
2013-04-30 09:59:08 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: That means that there can be situations that don't require consent, that's a hell of a lot different than the claim you made that parents don't have access to their kids medical care. This is clearly a situation where parents should have to be notified.


Except that HIPAA and State Laws say otherwise. Even when you move the goalposts, this doesn't change.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

Please. Just admit you were wrong and move on. Admit that IN YOUR OPINION, they should be, and the law actually says something QUITE different than your Jailhouse Lawyer understanding of it?
 
2013-04-30 09:59:25 PM  

Dimensio: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 346x369]

I am utterly disgusted by this news. Only a monstrous sociopath could look upon the above image and not recognize the sight of a precious human life whose willful termination is premeditated murder.


There was an article posted here on Fark last week I think about couples in AUS aborting their babies
because they turned out not to be the gender they wanted.

Are you cool with that?
 
2013-04-30 09:59:48 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: It seemed to me that you think


Well it seems to you wrong. I never ventured into what happens after the child is born. That is, AGAIN, a whole separate issue and your insistence on putting me on the other side of whatever slight you perceived in your relationship does not make it my opinion. This personal sh*t you've got going on, which I'm not making fun of because we've all got our problems, has nothing to do with me or my argument. If you feel like a victim, my argument has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-04-30 10:00:22 PM  

serpent_sky: Igor Jakovsky: Isn't that so the Doctor who does the procedure doesn't get a lawsuit from a younger woman who changed their mind about having kids?  Gotta love our tort system

I assume as much, but I would think that would be easily enough solved with some legal documents.

They perform sex change operations on people - use similar forms for someone who wants to be sterilized.  I offered to get letters from my therapist and sign documents absolving the doctor of any responsibility if I ever changed my mind (knowing that I wouldn't) and they still wouldn't do it.  I stood there and flat-out said, "If I should ever find myself pregnant, I will absolutely abort" and they just didn't care.

There should be no options for suing a doctor for performing elective surgery. Even if they put in safeguards of making someone wait, say, 6 months or a year, having them consult with a psychiatrist, and having them sign documents that they have no grounds to sue would be progress for those of us denied the rights to truly and fully control our reproductive system (and shut it down permanently.)


I agree wholeheartedly.
 
2013-04-30 10:00:54 PM  
It would be great if it had an option that cured hangovers. It's probably going to be needed most of the time.
 
2013-04-30 10:00:58 PM  

GoldSpider: So then the statement "Guy gets girl pregnant his option is what she decides." is precisely what that means.


Uh, yeah. I've been consistent about that this entire time.
 
2013-04-30 10:01:06 PM  

JenFromTheWood: TheOnion: Anthracite: TheOnion: Popcorn Johnny: So it's not legal for a 15 year old to consent to sex, but it's just fine if she buys a morning after pill without parental permission? Not really understanding the logic behind that decision.

Should we also ban the purchase of contraception?

Also, it's legal for a 15 year old to have sex with another 15 year old.  And they do it all the time without worrying much about the law (and would continue to do so even if it were illegal).  Since this is going to happen anyway, we would at least like to limit the number of children produced from the activity.

You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.

I'm not assuming anything.  15 year olds have sex.  It's a fact.  The legality of the issue sure doesn't stop them either.  The only question is do we want them to be able to legally purchase protection.  If we say yes, we accept that they'll have sex, but the availability of protection should reduce the rate of STDs and unplanned pregnancy.  If we say no, we accept that they'll have sex, but pay the price of increased STDs and unplanned pregnancy for the benefit of...something.

I told my daughter about this tonight. And reiterated that while I do not condone her having sex (she hasn't yet) if something should ever happen and she has a reason to think contraception may have failed, to let me know immediately as she would now have a back up. We've also discussed how this is by no means a get out of being knocked up free pill, it is something I would help her get should the need arise. Communication helps tremendously.


Congratulations.  You have just become an infinitely better parent than these assholes.
 
2013-04-30 10:01:15 PM  

ryant123: TomD9938: ryant123: If girls have sex, parents shouldn't be allowed to force them to compromise their health by going through an unwanted pregnancy, or to have their vaginas ripped apart in childbirth against their will.

And if my 15 year old wants to keep the baby?  Can I compel her to abort, seeing as I'd be the one raising another child?

Wait, it's against the law for you not to raise your child's kid?



I'm asking if the choice is mine (since she's in my custody) as to whether the birth happens.
 
2013-04-30 10:01:32 PM  
If a state or other law explicitly requires information to be disclosed to a parent, the rule allows a health care provider to comply with that law and to disclose the information.

Guess states are just going to have to pass their own laws.
 
2013-04-30 10:01:36 PM  

digitalrain: There was an article posted here on Fark last week I think about couples in AUS aborting their babies
because they turned out not to be the gender they wanted.

Are you cool with that?


And there was also, in that same article, enough information to let one know that only ONE case of that had occured in a clinic in Austrailia, and that parents seeking that to occur are generally turned away. And that 94% of all abortions in Austrailia happen below 12 weeks of gestation.

But, that's just being honest, you know...
 
2013-04-30 10:02:09 PM  

digitalrain: Dimensio: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 346x369]

I am utterly disgusted by this news. Only a monstrous sociopath could look upon the above image and not recognize the sight of a precious human life whose willful termination is premeditated murder.

There was an article posted here on Fark last week I think about couples in AUS aborting their babies
because they turned out not to be the gender they wanted.

Are you cool with that?


Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't there a medical procedure out already that all but guarantees a certain sex if you like in with an in-vitro birth?

Here we go:   http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/apr/03/sex-selection-babi e s
 
2013-04-30 10:02:55 PM  

radarlove: Yeah, I didn't really understand where that statement of his tied in at all with my statements about the potential increase in STD risks.


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-30 10:03:21 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Heaven forbid a young women get access to contraception or fertilization prevention if her parents don't believe in providing it.


Who said she couldn't get it? I'm saying that the parents should be notified after she does.
 
2013-04-30 10:03:45 PM  
Eh I should point out the crowd that thinks the morning after pill is a get out of pregnant free card.


the one time I saw a girl take it she spent 48 hours in horrible stomach pain. Threw up and was very miserable about it.

its a massive rush of hormones. Very unhealthy.
certainly not something a woman would want to take for the hell of it rather than use a condom.

1 time shell use it out of ignorance. After than she will know better.

it aint a magic pill
 
2013-04-30 10:03:49 PM  

TomD9938: ryant123: TomD9938: ryant123: If girls have sex, parents shouldn't be allowed to force them to compromise their health by going through an unwanted pregnancy, or to have their vaginas ripped apart in childbirth against their will.

And if my 15 year old wants to keep the baby?  Can I compel her to abort, seeing as I'd be the one raising another child?

Wait, it's against the law for you not to raise your child's kid?


I'm asking if the choice is mine (since she's in my custody) as to whether the birth happens.


Uh...no? Is that the obvious answer you were looking for?
 
2013-04-30 10:04:30 PM  
AWESOME!!

(you know the "morning after pill" is just 2 double doses of an ordinary contraceptive pill - right?)
 
2013-04-30 10:04:34 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: If a state or other law explicitly requires information to be disclosed to a parent, the rule allows a health care provider to comply with that law and to disclose the information.

Guess states are just going to have to pass their own laws.


They already have. And they protect the rights of the minor to confidentiality when it comes to consensual sexual matters.

The fact is that HIPAA now stacks its self along relatively toothless State laws (minor fine, complaint to board of provider which discloses) and stacks on massive monitary fines and banishment from participation in federal programs for violators.
 
2013-04-30 10:04:57 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: UNC_Samurai: Heaven forbid a young women get access to contraception or fertilization prevention if her parents don't believe in providing it.

Who said she couldn't get it? I'm saying that the parents should be notified after she does.


Well, get right on passing those state laws, then.
 
2013-04-30 10:05:24 PM  

hardinparamedic: digitalrain: There was an article posted here on Fark last week I think about couples in AUS aborting their babies
because they turned out not to be the gender they wanted.

Are you cool with that?

And there was also, in that same article, enough information to let one know that only ONE case of that had occured in a clinic in Austrailia, and that parents seeking that to occur are generally turned away. And that 94% of all abortions in Austrailia happen below 12 weeks of gestation.

But, that's just being honest, you know...


I'm not questioning the frequency of it happening nor how late into the pregnancy it happens.

I am asking if you are cool with the idea of parents aborting their unborn child because it is the
"wrong" gender. Or, extrapolating a little further, if DNA testing of the amniotic fluid (which does
carry the baby's cells) shows that the baby has the genetic predisposition for the "wrong" color
eyes or hair, would you be okay with aborting for those reason as well?
 
2013-04-30 10:05:47 PM  

TomD9938: And if my 15 year old wants to keep the baby? Can I compel her to abort, seeing as I'd be the one raising another child?

Wait, it's against the law for you not to raise your child's kid?


I think it's legal to inform the social workers at the hospital that you have no intention of providing resources for any child except your own, at which point they can look at a clearly unprepared 15-year-old and start really pushing the 'adoption' option.

If more parents told their kids what mine did, which was "If you choose to have sex, we will make sure contraception is available, and if you get pregnant, we will support whatever choice you make that doesn't end in us raising a grandkid," there'd be a lot more abstinent or contraceptive-using teens. Too many families have short generations these days.
 
2013-04-30 10:05:53 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: make me some tea: How is it people do not understand the concept of consent?

A 15 year old can't legally consent to sex in almost the entire country.


That's a murky issue, but I believe that it's generally accepted that if the sexual partner is close in age, consent can be given.

I mean, otherwise we might as well throw 75% of our teenagers in jail for statutory rape.
 
2013-04-30 10:06:39 PM  

make me some tea: Popcorn Johnny: make me some tea: How is it people do not understand the concept of consent?

A 15 year old can't legally consent to sex in almost the entire country.

That's a murky issue, but I believe that it's generally accepted that if the sexual partner is close in age, consent can be given.

I mean, otherwise we might as well throw 75% of our teenagers in jail for statutory rape.


Don't think that hasn't crossed their minds.
 
2013-04-30 10:06:44 PM  

JenFromTheWood: And reiterated that while I do not condone her having sex (she hasn't yet) if something should ever happen and she has a reason to think contraception may have failed, to let me know immediately as she would now have a back up.


Now you may never know, on both counts.
 
2013-04-30 10:07:00 PM  
Thread's too long to read.  Can someone just tell me who's butthurt so far?  TYIA
 
2013-04-30 10:07:00 PM  

TomD9938: ryant123: If girls have sex, parents shouldn't be allowed to force them to compromise their health by going through an unwanted pregnancy, or to have their vaginas ripped apart in childbirth against their will.

And if my 15 year old wants to keep the baby?  Can I compel her to abort, seeing as I'd be the one raising another child?


Coerced abortions are illegal in every state regardless of one's relationship to the mother.

The state will seek child support from the minor mom's parents if the father can't be found.  If he is found but can't pay, the state can go after his parents.
 
2013-04-30 10:07:15 PM  

TomD9938: And if my 15 year old wants to keep the baby?


Papa don't preach.
 
2013-04-30 10:07:41 PM  

GoldSpider: radarlove: Yeah, I didn't really understand where that statement of his tied in at all with my statements about the potential increase in STD risks.

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My sarcasm-meter works just fine and apparently other folks didn't pick up on it either if you were just being sarcastic and glib.

Maybe you should work on your delivery or, if you actually meant what you said, perhaps you should explain your reasons why instead of posting pictures of Prof. Frink.
 
2013-04-30 10:07:46 PM  

hardinparamedic: They already have. And they protect the rights of the minor to confidentiality when it comes to consensual sexual matters.


They've already passed laws based on a decision that was just made today? Wow, that's some effective governing. I guarantee you that there are going to be a lot of states passing laws requiring parental notification for this.
 
2013-04-30 10:08:30 PM  

solitary: AWESOME!!

(you know the "morning after pill" is just 2 double doses of an ordinary contraceptive pill - right?)


That's really a dangerous statement - it's not. You increase your risk of Venous Thrombembolism and Pulmonary Embolism, as well as contraceptive failure in an emergency situation, by quad-dosing your birth control pill, which is estridol and progestrin. The Plan B Pill is <a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" levonorgestrel"="" target="_blank">levonorgestrel. 

They used to use the massive doses of combined hormonal birth control, but they stopped doing so in favor of levonorgestrel because it was not only safer, but vastly more effective.
 
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