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2013-04-30 09:14:50 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Kimothy: Good. Can't wait to see the fundies crying in their Cheerios over this one.

Just wait for all those high moral cashiers who refuse to check out any item they find morally objectionable.


It would probably help some fatties out.

"Ma'am, I am not going to sell you this pizza. You'll have to buy your fatty foods elsewhere."

"Awww, dammit, the other Walmart is all the way across town! My amigo and my lungs can't handle that trip."
 
2013-04-30 09:15:07 PM  

ginkor: [i.imgur.com image 640x360]


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2013-04-30 09:15:20 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Just cause its in your womb and gestates there doesnt mean you have more rights to it than the father.

That's exactly what it means. If you want men and women to have equal rights with regards to pregnancy figure out a way for men to get pregnant.

That isn't to say men can't even discuss this topic. But that's all it is, discussion.


I can live with just being part of the discussion, cause, let's be serious.  We'd go extinct as a species if men were the ones to have to go through child-birth.
 
2013-04-30 09:16:22 PM  

TomD9938: make me some tea: it's amazing how right-wingers hate government regulation unless it's an issue they feel strongly about.

Those are big government social conservatives.


...with the full support of the Republican Party.
 
2013-04-30 09:17:20 PM  

mr lawson: Infernalist: THAT'S XTREME

Comming soon to Fox: Xtreme Abortions Docs :The Reality Show.


I bet they play Edward 40-hands and trap one of them in a church wearing nothing but the bottles.
 
2013-04-30 09:17:37 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Who never had any sex ed


No, what should be told is how important talking to your children about reproduction and sex before this unplanned and unwanted pregnancy occurs.
 
2013-04-30 09:18:18 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Just cause its in your womb and gestates there doesnt mean you have more rights to it than the father.

That's exactly what it means. If you want men and women to have equal rights with regards to pregnancy figure out a way for men to get pregnant.

That isn't to say men can't even discuss this topic. But that's all it is, discussion.


Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.

takes 2 genders to make a child. Being the female doesnt make it more yours than his. I know you feel it does.

but your wrong. No penis no child.
it effects both genders equally
 
2013-04-30 09:18:27 PM  

Raharu: BarkingUnicorn: Raharu: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Popcorn Johnny: Aarontology: Because they're two entirely different issues.

How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.

Nope. They dont. You have a right to keep a watchfull eye on your child. If you fail in that respect its your own damn fault.

birth control should be a human right in the same vein as food and water

Just jumped right the cliff with the shark, didn't you?

Not everything you think people deserve is a human right.

True, but you know what. I honestly believe birth control is one of the best things ever invented.
Giving women and men the ability to enjoy themselves, and yet not be shackled to biology, opens so many doors.


Actually, the UN has taken the position that reproductive health is a human right.  This includes birth control.  And that's absolutely the correct position, because easy, safe, and affordable access to reproductive health goods and services is a matter not only of individual health and welfare, but it's also a significant public health issue.
 
2013-04-30 09:18:47 PM  
legion_of_doo:
parents should be involved in the health of their children. [more text goes here]

If parents were involved with the health of their children, or involved with their children in general, these pills wouldn't be used very often.
Unfortunately, it's not yet legal to give beatings to bad parents, so we have stuff like this.

It's a good move, just not the ideal one.
 
2013-04-30 09:19:07 PM  

dmax: PistolGripPump: Now, I'm not trolling nor am I trying to add to the flamewar above, and I do not have data to prove the following statement, so please be gentle.  As someone who works in the STD "industry" and has seen the growth in antibiotic-resistant strains of Gonorrhea as well as new resurgence in Syphilis cases, my only concern with the OTC status of Plan B would be it leading to a decrease in use of other contraceptive methods that prevent the spread of STDs as well as pregnancy.  If young people decide to use Plan B as Plan A and neglect to use other forms of contraception (it feels better without latex barriers, you know what I mean), this could be a very bad thing for our country (but job security for me?).

Kidding, kinda, you could contend that the OTC Plan B is part of a plan to decrease the undereducated population. 1) less babies and 2) more spread of a disease until, in the long run like with TB, it becomes impossible to treat and causes sterilization of those who contract it, like chlamydia. (And, therefore, less babies)

I imagine somewhere is a room of rich old white men who are in agreement that there are only so many resources, but far too many people. The only answer is to let the bottom part of the Bell Curve dispose of itself. Smoking, reckless behavior, inadequate medical care access, etc...

With that theory, and my tinfoil hat tipped at a rakish angle, it somehow makes sense...


Add in legalization of drugs to maintain to keep this population in...........hold on a second, there's someone knocking on my front door <carrier lost>
 
2013-04-30 09:19:15 PM  

Rivetman1.0: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Who never had any sex ed

No, what should be told is how important talking to your children about reproduction and sex before this unplanned and unwanted pregnancy occurs.


lol yeah, their idea of 'talking about sex' comes down to "DON'T YOU FARKING FARK AROUND, YOU SLUT!" if a girl..

If a guy, then it's "Do whatever, just don't get caught, boy."
 
2013-04-30 09:20:02 PM  

Infernalist: I can live with just being part of the discussion, cause, let's be serious.  We'd go extinct as a species if men were the ones to have to go through child-birth.


Oh speak for yourself. I've been on a Taco Truck pubcrawl. I've birthed many things after a Vegas buffet binge, I'll tell ya.
 
2013-04-30 09:20:14 PM  

make me some tea: TomD9938: make me some tea: it's amazing how right-wingers hate government regulation unless it's an issue they feel strongly about.

Those are big government social conservatives.

...with the full support of the Republican Party.


Yeah, they like the votes (some 20% or so) but the fundies can swing Democratic in the right areas.

Politically, they're largely one trick ponies.
 
2013-04-30 09:20:26 PM  

Rivetman1.0: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Who never had any sex ed

No, what should be told is how important talking to your children about reproduction and sex before this unplanned and unwanted pregnancy occurs.


Atleast have one or the other.

no sex ed. Ok but make birth control availiable. No birth control ok. Make sure everyone knows how sex works.

but to have neither is a recipe for failure. No matter how you look at it.

if your only argument to the contrary is the bible.
shut up and go read it
 
2013-04-30 09:20:36 PM  

Wessoman: Infernalist: I can live with just being part of the discussion, cause, let's be serious.  We'd go extinct as a species if men were the ones to have to go through child-birth.

Oh speak for yourself. I've been on a Taco Truck pubcrawl. I've birthed many things after a Vegas buffet binge, I'll tell ya.


Well, there's a visual that's begging for a tequila black-out.
 
2013-04-30 09:20:53 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.


The first part is correct. The second part is the key. Men have one choice, whether or not to consent to sex. Women get two choices. Whether or not to consent to sex and what to do if a pregnancy is the result. Until men get pregnant, they have no control over the second choice.
 
2013-04-30 09:21:08 PM  
Fun Fact: Did you know the Romans may have had a very effective form of birth control?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2676/did-the-ancient-romans -u se-a-natural-herb-for-birth-control
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium
Overgrazing combined with Overharvesting may have led to its extinction
 
2013-04-30 09:22:29 PM  
And thus, the Golden Age of Butt Sex came to an end. -_-
 
2013-04-30 09:22:49 PM  
How long until Republicans rename this "The Murder Pill"?
 
2013-04-30 09:23:03 PM  

TaterTot_HotDish: If you don't want your kids having sex, using condoms, or buying Plan B, teach them not to do those things.  Why do we have to make up for your shiatty parenting?


Lets just do away with the drinking age too, right?
 
2013-04-30 09:23:19 PM  

Infernalist: Rivetman1.0: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Who never had any sex ed

No, what should be told is how important talking to your children about reproduction and sex before this unplanned and unwanted pregnancy occurs.

lol yeah, their idea of 'talking about sex' comes down to "DON'T YOU FARKING FARK AROUND, YOU SLUT!" if a girl..

If a guy, then it's "Do whatever, just don't get caught, boy."


Meh. Some people are like that. Though I only have a son.
most of me sex ed came from my mother.

always very honest and factual talks. I would like to think I could have those same talks with a daughter if it came to it.

god knows I would prefer to teach my childeren about sex than leave it in the hands of "educators"
 
2013-04-30 09:23:20 PM  

Captain Steroid: And thus, the Golden Age of Butt Sex came to an end. -_-


I'm sure if you ask nicely, she'll keep strapping it on.  NTTAWWT
 
2013-04-30 09:23:21 PM  

Moonfisher: ginkor: [i.imgur.com image 640x360]

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Wait - are you questioning that some white boy from Arizona cares deeply and sincerely about black baies? How dare you, sir? It's cynicism like yours that causes kittens and puppies to die of broken hearts.
 
2013-04-30 09:23:55 PM  
Wasn't this approved before?
 
2013-04-30 09:24:25 PM  

Leonard_Cohen: Wasn't this approved before?


Not for OTC sales.
 
2013-04-30 09:24:48 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: TaterTot_HotDish: If you don't want your kids having sex, using condoms, or buying Plan B, teach them not to do those things.  Why do we have to make up for your shiatty parenting?

Lets just do away with the drinking age too, right?


And no more clean cheese either - we need to stop the picnic apes.
 
2013-04-30 09:24:52 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.

The first part is correct. The second part is the key. Men have one choice, whether or not to consent to sex. Women get two choices. Whether or not to consent to sex and what to do if a pregnancy is the result. Until men get pregnant, they have no control over the second choice.


Thats true. Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man. Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.
 
2013-04-30 09:26:21 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man.


Who said anything about belong?

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.


And it's a 100-0 situation to carry it to term.
 
2013-04-30 09:26:26 PM  

Free Radical: How long until Republicans rename this "The Murder Pill"?


Its been done already, its not like this pill is a new invention.

To be fair, its not like they understand how things like The Plan B pill even work.


http://greenleegazette.blogspot.com/2011/10/rachel-maddow-teaches-mi tt -romney-about.html
 
2013-04-30 09:26:35 PM  
gavinstephens.files.wordpress.com

Make it so.

 
2013-04-30 09:26:58 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.

The first part is correct. The second part is the key. Men have one choice, whether or not to consent to sex. Women get two choices. Whether or not to consent to sex and what to do if a pregnancy is the result. Until men get pregnant, they have no control over the second choice.

Thats true. Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man. Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.


Wait a minute. I was unaware that children "belonged" to anybody. Didn't we fight a war about that, back in the 1860s? Or am I confucian?
 
2013-04-30 09:27:21 PM  

make me some tea: How is it people do not understand the concept of consent?


A 15 year old can't legally consent to sex in almost the entire country.
 
2013-04-30 09:28:01 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Raharu: BarkingUnicorn: Raharu: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Popcorn Johnny: Aarontology: Because they're two entirely different issues.

How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.

Nope. They dont. You have a right to keep a watchfull eye on your child. If you fail in that respect its your own damn fault.

birth control should be a human right in the same vein as food and water

Just jumped right the cliff with the shark, didn't you?

Not everything you think people deserve is a human right.

True, but you know what. I honestly believe birth control is one of the best things ever invented.
Giving women and men the ability to enjoy themselves, and yet not be shackled to biology, opens so many doors.

Actually, the UN has taken the position that reproductive health is a human right.  This includes birth control.  And that's absolutely the correct position, because easy, safe, and affordable access to reproductive health goods and services is a matter not only of individual health and welfare, but it's also a significant public health issue.


Fark the UN, too.  Health and well-being are not human rights.  It is not incumbent upon others to provide them to you.  It may be in the self-interest of others, but that's a different story.
 
2013-04-30 09:28:03 PM  
I don't know if I can deal with one of these threads AND a Zimmerman thread all in one day.
 
2013-04-30 09:28:03 PM  

jso2897: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.

The first part is correct. The second part is the key. Men have one choice, whether or not to consent to sex. Women get two choices. Whether or not to consent to sex and what to do if a pregnancy is the result. Until men get pregnant, they have no control over the second choice.

Thats true. Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man. Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.

Wait a minute. I was unaware that children "belonged" to anybody. Didn't we fight a war about that, back in the 1860s? Or am I confucian?


Is 'custody' a form of ownership?  Can a child legally 'refuse' to go home with their parents without merit?
 
2013-04-30 09:28:52 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.


and an 80 / 20 to house, clothe and feed one
 
2013-04-30 09:29:39 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.

The first part is correct. The second part is the key. Men have one choice, whether or not to consent to sex. Women get two choices. Whether or not to consent to sex and what to do if a pregnancy is the result. Until men get pregnant, they have no control over the second choice.

Thats true. Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man. Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.


Well, it might be 50/50 if the guy had to carry it for 4 or 5 months and give birth to it, then feed it from his own flesh afterwards.

Penguins, now that's a 50/50 split. But humans? Nope. More like 99/1.
 
2013-04-30 09:29:45 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: make me some tea: How is it people do not understand the concept of consent?

A 15 year old can't legally consent to sex in almost the entire country.


True - and the female body rejects it if it's not legitimate sex. So no babby is formed.
 
2013-04-30 09:30:37 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: TaterTot_HotDish: If you don't want your kids having sex, using condoms, or buying Plan B, teach them not to do those things.  Why do we have to make up for your shiatty parenting?

Lets just do away with the drinking age too, right?


Really?!  You lost tiger.
It's time to stop posting. You have work tomorrow.
Go to bed.

/We should at least consider lowering it to the voting age, and military service age.
 
2013-04-30 09:30:46 PM  

PistolGripPump: Now, I'm not trolling nor am I trying to add to the flamewar above, and I do not have data to prove the following statement, so please be gentle.  As someone who works in the STD "industry" and has seen the growth in antibiotic-resistant strains of Gonorrhea as well as new resurgence in Syphilis cases, my only concern with the OTC status of Plan B would be it leading to a decrease in use of other contraceptive methods that prevent the spread of STDs as well as pregnancy.  If young people decide to use Plan B as Plan A and neglect to use other forms of contraception (it feels better without latex barriers, you know what I mean), this could be a very bad thing for our country (but job security for me?).


Came in here to say THIS.

I see a lot of folks in this thread claiming that Plan-B will help lower STD rates, and I have no earthly idea why.

It seems to me that if anything Plan-B would cause an increase in STDs.  What kid is going to bother putting on a rubber when he's got a case of Baby-B-Gon in the trunk?

I predict an explosion in the number of reported cases of STDs in the coming few years.
 
2013-04-30 09:31:15 PM  

Amos Quito: Weaver95: Infernalist: Weaver95: why is this a big deal?

Because JESUS

I didn't see any mention of this in the new testament.


What, you never heard of the Plan-Beatitudes?

"Blessed are the whores sluts, for they shall be contracepted".


Whores get paid.
 
2013-04-30 09:31:15 PM  

Leonard_Cohen: Wasn't this approved before?


It's been non-prescription for patients over 18 for quite a while, but it was kept behind the pharmacist's counter.  Minors needed a prescription.  Now it can go on the open shelves and minors as young as 15 can get it with proof of age.
 
2013-04-30 09:31:27 PM  

Raharu: birth control should be a human right in the same vein as food and water


Oh, that explains a lot.  Because people die without birth control in the same way they would die without food and water.

Look, I'm not one of these bible-thumping anti-abortion whackjobs; their methods exacerbate the problem of unwanted children.  I get that and I support abortion rights.  The only problem I have with all this is this apparent effort to keep parents in the dark about their child's health.
 
2013-04-30 09:32:06 PM  
By the way, I'm pro-abortion and an Atheist so lets stop labeling me based on my opinion on this.
 
2013-04-30 09:32:12 PM  

Dimensio: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 346x369]

I am utterly disgusted by this news. Only a monstrous sociopath could look upon the above image and not recognize the sight of a precious human life whose willful termination is premeditated murder.


I know - I hate people who don't recognize that human beings are defined by what they LOOK LIKE, not some weird criteria like DNA.

/Next thing you know, they'll be saying that the blacks are people!
 
2013-04-30 09:32:29 PM  

Infernalist: jso2897: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Cause it wouldnt be a child without a man.
just like it wouldnt be child without a woman.

The first part is correct. The second part is the key. Men have one choice, whether or not to consent to sex. Women get two choices. Whether or not to consent to sex and what to do if a pregnancy is the result. Until men get pregnant, they have no control over the second choice.

Thats true. Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man. Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.

Wait a minute. I was unaware that children "belonged" to anybody. Didn't we fight a war about that, back in the 1860s? Or am I confucian?

Is 'custody' a form of ownership?  Can a child legally 'refuse' to go home with their parents without merit?


Your heart's in the right place - don't let me get on your nerves, friend. I'm just having some fun.
Like I said before - dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
 
2013-04-30 09:32:39 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: make me some tea: How is it people do not understand the concept of consent?

A 15 year old can't legally consent to sex in almost the entire country.


and 15 year olds should totally be forced to carry the child to term why?

Because Jesus?
Because you said so?
Just because?
 
2013-04-30 09:32:58 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Still doesnt mean a child belongs more to woman than man.

Who said anything about belong?

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Its a 50 50 situation to make a baby.

And it's a 100-0 situation to carry it to term.


No it isnt.
its in a womans body 100%
but a good man is with her. As she puts weight on. As she has strange cravings. As she becomes emotional and thinks shes ugly. As mabey friends and family judge her.

a good man is with her to feel the baby kick. To argue about names. To watch him be born. To help her along the way in whatever way possible.

she may be pregnant. But he is with you the entire time.
atleast a worthwhile man is.

no person is an island unto themselves.

I felt my boy kick. I watched as the doc cut her open to remove my son with the cord wrapped around his neck 4 times.

its no more hers than mine.
just cause its in the woman. Doesnt mean that the man wasnt there and involved the entire time
 
2013-04-30 09:33:20 PM  

Infernalist: Dusk-You-n-Me: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Just cause its in your womb and gestates there doesnt mean you have more rights to it than the father.

That's exactly what it means. If you want men and women to have equal rights with regards to pregnancy figure out a way for men to get pregnant.

That isn't to say men can't even discuss this topic. But that's all it is, discussion.

I can live with just being part of the discussion, cause, let's be serious.  We'd go extinct as a species if men were the ones to have to go through child-birth.


www.40daydetox.com
 
2013-04-30 09:34:20 PM  

Raharu: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Popcorn Johnny: Aarontology: Because they're two entirely different issues.

How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.

Nope. They dont. You have a right to keep a watchfull eye on your child. If you fail in that respect its your own damn fault.

birth control should be a human right in the same vein as food and water


It already is.  You have the right to not f*ck and to not be f*cked.  Ta-da.  Birth control.
 
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