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2013-04-30 08:03:26 PM  

Rincewind53: Do you think condoms should require parental permission/notification? Condoms and Plan B do the same things, just at different times.


For people under the age of consent? Yes they should.
 
2013-04-30 08:03:40 PM  
This is going to save taxpayers a ton of money in the long run and I'm all for it.
 
2013-04-30 08:03:53 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: When do they start selling Viagra OTC? Seems like it would be a nice counterbalance.


I know for sure that you can order viagra or cialis like research chemicals. Price all depends on the vendor.

Anyways hurray for the FDA doing something right!
 
2013-04-30 08:04:01 PM  

fusillade762: TomD9938: FILL THE PLANET ELBOW-TO-ELBOW WITH HUMANS!


I whole-heartedly support this initiative, if only to bring back bloodsport.
 
2013-04-30 08:04:31 PM  

Anthracite: TheOnion: Popcorn Johnny: So it's not legal for a 15 year old to consent to sex, but it's just fine if she buys a morning after pill without parental permission? Not really understanding the logic behind that decision.

Should we also ban the purchase of contraception?

Also, it's legal for a 15 year old to have sex with another 15 year old.  And they do it all the time without worrying much about the law (and would continue to do so even if it were illegal).  Since this is going to happen anyway, we would at least like to limit the number of children produced from the activity.

You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.


I'm not assuming anything.  15 year olds have sex.  It's a fact.  The legality of the issue sure doesn't stop them either.  The only question is do we want them to be able to legally purchase protection.  If we say yes, we accept that they'll have sex, but the availability of protection should reduce the rate of STDs and unplanned pregnancy.  If we say no, we accept that they'll have sex, but pay the price of increased STDs and unplanned pregnancy for the benefit of...something.
 
2013-04-30 08:04:39 PM  

megarian: Begoggle: I just killed some skin cells by scratching myself.

YOU MONSTER


I'm going to clip my nails now AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!
 
2013-04-30 08:04:42 PM  

TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.


Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?
 
2013-04-30 08:04:53 PM  

FriarReb98: See, while this will legitimately help some people, I know from seeing it firsthand at pharmacies in, shall we say, the less reputable neighborhoods of Providence, that there are people that will go in almost every other week to buy said drugs.  You'd think the girl would just tell the guys to use a condom or it's an extra $50.

I

don't see who is not benefiting.
 
2013-04-30 08:05:44 PM  

mr lawson: Anthracite: You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.

Or not.


The ability to attend college does not magically confer the maturity to make good decisions, but you knew that.
 
2013-04-30 08:06:12 PM  
Preg-Not
Embry-No
Nary a Carry
Nay, Family Way
Mom Bomb
Junior, Miss
Inconceivable!
Mommy Not
Fetus Fail
Kiddie Kill
Poppa Stopper
Womb Broom
Humpty Dumpty
Baby-Maybe
 
2013-04-30 08:06:28 PM  

KarmicDisaster: This is going to save taxpayers a ton of money in the long run and I'm all for it.


THIS.
 
2013-04-30 08:06:42 PM  

Rincewind53: So then I go back to my other question. Do you think condoms should require parental permission/notification? Condoms and Plan B do the same things, just at different times.


...given the shiatty quality of sex education in this country I'm going to be pedantic and pull a captain obvious here. Condoms protect against STDs too, Plan B does not.

/yes, I'm sure you already no this
//not so sure about the teenage girl who thinks she can bareback because she can get Plan B without telling her folks
 
2013-04-30 08:06:50 PM  

bingethinker: Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?


Can you provide a citation for this?
 
2013-04-30 08:07:01 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Preg-Not
Embry-No
Nary a Carry
Nay, Family Way
Mom Bomb
Junior, Miss
Inconceivable!
Mommy Not
Fetus Fail
Kiddie Kill
Poppa Stopper
Womb Broom
Humpty Dumpty
Baby-Maybe


Winnar!
 
2013-04-30 08:07:06 PM  

bingethinker: Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?


yup. freakonomics at work.
/abortions lower crime rates and tax rates.
 
2013-04-30 08:07:18 PM  
Tide detergent will lose its crown as the most shoplifted item at Walgreens.

Maybe tons of pills will be stolen by fundies to keep them out of girls' mouths.
 
2013-04-30 08:08:06 PM  

TomD9938: Right. No one great ever grew up under difficult circumstances.


Well, then, we should enact policies that keep more and more people in poverty and need so their bootstrappy greatness can more fully manifest. Plus, that means rich people can get richer! A win-win if I've ever heard of one.
 
2013-04-30 08:08:19 PM  

KarmicDisaster: This is going to save taxpayers a ton of money in the long run and I'm all for it.


How do you think this will save taxpayers money?
 
2013-04-30 08:08:39 PM  

bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?


"Freakonomics" made that argument pretty well. Others have cited a correlation with banning lead in paint.
 
2013-04-30 08:08:41 PM  
But how will we properly shame our sluts??

The consequences will never be the same.
 
2013-04-30 08:08:45 PM  

bugontherug: bingethinker: Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

Can you provide a citation for this?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
 
2013-04-30 08:09:08 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Preg-Not
Embry-No
Nary a Carry
Nay, Family Way
Mom Bomb
Junior, Miss
Inconceivable!
Mommy Not
Fetus Fail
Kiddie Kill
Poppa Stopper
Womb Broom
Humpty Dumpty
Baby-Maybe


Nice. I prefer "Try Spartans. Getting the jobs that the Trojans couldn't do."
 
2013-04-30 08:09:11 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Tide detergent will lose its crown as the most shoplifted item at Walgreens.

Maybe tons of pills will be stolen by fundies to keep them out of girls' mouths.


Or stolen by the children of fundies to keep their parents from finding out they're sexually active and too stupid to use a condom.
 
2013-04-30 08:09:27 PM  

mr lawson: /abortions lower crime rates and tax rates.


imgs.xkcd.com

Not that I have another explanation for the data.
 
2013-04-30 08:09:59 PM  
www.charlock.org
 
2013-04-30 08:09:59 PM  

ultraholland: Obama's going to turn all teenagers into promiscuous atheist whores!!


Thanks, Obama! :)
 
2013-04-30 08:10:09 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Tide detergent will lose its crown as the most shoplifted item at Walgreens.

Maybe tons of pills will be stolen by fundies to keep them out of girls' mouths.


They'll keep them in the cabinet like they do razor blade and sometimes condoms
 
2013-04-30 08:10:19 PM  

bugontherug: KarmicDisaster: This is going to save taxpayers a ton of money in the long run and I'm all for it.

How do you think this will save taxpayers money?


Because generally it's those with the least ability to take care of kids that end up having the kids.  And when they need help, they look to public assistance.
 
2013-04-30 08:10:21 PM  

TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.


Exactly! This is why I think women who naturally have spontaneous miscarriages should be tried on charges of manslaughter. People (well, women) should do everything they can to make the womb a scientifically perfect environment for any potentially potential fertilized egg irregardless of weather or not they know they are pregnant. Because who knows?!? That egg that naturally was rejected could have been that one in 10^23 chance that the PERSON every egg is could have saved the world.

*fistbump*
 
2013-04-30 08:10:30 PM  
Remember folks - the Government is only supposed to "mind it's own business" when it comes to weapons you can slaughter other people with. When it comes to your own body, it should be all up in your business.
 
2013-04-30 08:10:45 PM  

Infernalist: bugontherug: bingethinker: Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

Can you provide a citation for this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect


Thank you.
 
2013-04-30 08:11:19 PM  
www.maureenmcgovern.com
APPROVES!
She's been waiting for this since 1973!
 
2013-04-30 08:11:24 PM  

Dimensio: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 346x369]

I am utterly disgusted by this news. Only a monstrous sociopath could look upon the above image and not recognize the sight of a precious human life whose willful termination is premeditated murder.


It looks like burnt cheese pizza with a bubble in the dough.
 
2013-04-30 08:11:30 PM  

bingethinker: TomD9938: I wonder who we will have lost.

Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?


We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

They wont remember a thing and they can fark like rabbits the rest of their lives and we wont have to worry about their hell-spawn getting their hands on our stuff.
 
2013-04-30 08:11:31 PM  

bugontherug: bingethinker: Didn't they already discover that the main reason the crime rate has gone down in the last 40 years is poor people are having fewer kids?

Can you provide a citation for this?


bugontherug: KarmicDisaster: This is going to save taxpayers a ton of money in the long run and I'm all for it.

How do you think this will save taxpayers money?


bugontherug: Rincewind53: Condoms and Plan B do the same things, just at different times.

Can you explain what you mean by this?



Do you really have no understanding of the issues which surround the topic under discussion?
 
2013-04-30 08:11:38 PM  
I can now see popped collar bros trying to weasel their way into unprotected sex: "I'm like totally clean. Besides, you can pill it tomorrow morning baby."

Still, this is gonna save taxpayers a hell of a lot of money. Thank goodness.
 
2013-04-30 08:11:41 PM  

bugontherug: ontariolightning: Aboot time Americans. Plan B has no age limit in Canada and sold over the counter / on the shelves. This is the stuff that can help prevent future abortions. Great day for the

So a thirteen year old in Canada can just walk up to the pharmacy counter and buy Plan B, no questions asked?


If you really want your day ruined, there are no limits on abortion in Canada. Third trimester? Legs in the stirrups, please.

No legal restrictions. Only access and funding problems I guess. You'd have to ask someone from America's hat whether I'm correct or not.
 
2013-04-30 08:12:15 PM  

Fjornir: mr lawson: /abortions lower crime rates and tax rates.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 459x185]

Not that I have another explanation for the data.


one of my favorites by him!
Have it posted above my monitor.
/B.S. Economics
 
2013-04-30 08:12:28 PM  

DarwiOdrade: BarkingUnicorn: Tide detergent will lose its crown as the most shoplifted item at Walgreens.

Maybe tons of pills will be stolen by fundies to keep them out of girls' mouths.

Or stolen by the children of fundies to keep their parents from finding out they're sexually active and too stupid to use a condom.


Seriously, this pill will not be put out on shelves even though the FDA says it can be.  It's too valuable and there will be too much demand for it.
 
2013-04-30 08:12:54 PM  

fusillade762: megarian: Begoggle: I just killed some skin cells by scratching myself.

YOU MONSTER

I'm going to clip my nails now AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!


This is why I support de-clawing for ALL MAMALS!

/the reptiles control all. They don't shed skin until it dies in mass quantities and they have to shed it via awesome boots.
 
2013-04-30 08:13:34 PM  

TomD9938: We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.


Oh, I get it. Trollin trollin trollin, keep those doggies trollin.
 
2013-04-30 08:14:09 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: DarwiOdrade: BarkingUnicorn: Tide detergent will lose its crown as the most shoplifted item at Walgreens.

Maybe tons of pills will be stolen by fundies to keep them out of girls' mouths.

Or stolen by the children of fundies to keep their parents from finding out they're sexually active and too stupid to use a condom.

Seriously, this pill will not be put out on shelves even though the FDA says it can be.  It's too valuable and there will be too much demand for it.


Is there a patent on it, or are we going to see a 'generic' effect, where a dozen companies provide the same product under different names at increasingly cheaper prices?
 
2013-04-30 08:14:16 PM  

fusillade762: Just out of curiosity: how does a 15-year-old prove their age?


I'm guessing school ID cards. A lot of school districts put the DOB on them in addition to the student's picture.
 
2013-04-30 08:14:24 PM  

theorellior: TomD9938: We could just profile newborns and sterilize the appropriate (poor) candidates right at birth.

Oh, I get it. Trollin trollin trollin, keep those doggies trollin.


you say that like it is a bad idea?
 
2013-04-30 08:14:28 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: bugontherug: ontariolightning: Aboot time Americans. Plan B has no age limit in Canada and sold over the counter / on the shelves. This is the stuff that can help prevent future abortions. Great day for the

So a thirteen year old in Canada can just walk up to the pharmacy counter and buy Plan B, no questions asked?

If you really want your day ruined, there are no limits on abortion in Canada. Third trimester? Legs in the stirrups, please.

No legal restrictions. Only access and funding problems I guess. You'd have to ask someone from America's hat whether I'm correct or not.


I'm from America's Hat, and you're correct...though I don't think many doctors are willing to perform late-term abortions for no reason. But then again, who knows.
 
2013-04-30 08:16:23 PM  

Staffist: Kimothy: Good. Can't wait to see the fundies crying in their Cheerios over this one.

Really?


Yep. Sick of their obnoxious God in Government viewpoint that prevents or delays sensible decisions, especially about sex, drugs, alcohol, or control over your own body.
 
2013-04-30 08:16:43 PM  

Fjornir: mr lawson: /abortions lower crime rates and tax rates.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 459x185]

Not that I have another explanation for the data.


Freakanomics does a good job of laying out the case for that.  That unwanted children are more likely to end up involved in crime and reducing unwanted children has a follow on effect of reducing crime a couple of decades later.
 
2013-04-30 08:17:24 PM  

fusillade762: Just out of curiosity: how does a 15-year-old prove their age?


Well, in some states one can drive at 14 (15 in others)

Though i suspect the point is requiring ID will of course prevent many/most 15-year-olds from purchasing a legal OTC product.

(At what age can folks get non-driver State ID's? varies by state, I'm sure)
 
2013-04-30 08:18:15 PM  
Hmm. What's next?
Chewables? 

...dissolvables. "Have a wild night? Making her breakfast? Drop one of these in her OJ and you're good to go!"

It's possible I'm a terrible person.
 
2013-04-30 08:18:57 PM  
I am somewhat comforted that America is one of the few countries that does not regulate the sales of melatonin. You can find it on the shelves of must drug stores and it is in fact quite cheap relative.  The only reasons I state this is that I developed a dangerous pineal cyst which was endoscopically removed including the entire gland.  So I now require exogenous melattonin to trick myself that it in fact nighttime.  Just saying that it is a godsend that melatonin is OTC unlike other countries
 
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