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2013-04-30 11:47:11 PM  
Just sign them all up for Peapod & then they don't have to drive at all. Plus they get whatever is dumped off at their door.
 
2013-04-30 11:48:55 PM  
o5iiawah: If your argument is that someone with 5 kids, who works 80 hours a week doesn't have time to sit in the kitchen and make food all day, chances are they should have stopped at one kid.

I know someone with 4 kids whose husband died at 37. It's not always irresponsibility. I also know someone with three kids whose husband tried to kill her, so she left. She couldn't collect a nickel in child support from the lazy ____.
 
2013-04-30 11:49:28 PM  

12349876: Good for you.  You don't fit into my qualifiers.  Not everyone lives 1/4 mile from the grocery.  Not everyone has good direct public transportation from their house to the grocery.  But keep pretending everyone is as fortunate as you are.


ok, so who are these people who fit your qualifiers.  Give me a percentage of the population who is starving because for some reason, we can get power, light plumbing and SNAP to their house but there's no food stores anywhere.

Believe you me, if I could live out in the boonies, away from buses, trains and everything else, i would.  Nothing beats county fruit/veggie stands or even your own garden.  Seems the further you live from a food store, the better access you have to fruits and veggies.  Growing up in Sticks, FL that was always my experience anyways...
 
2013-04-30 11:51:06 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: Molavian: Oh, no.  How terrible!  I enjoy paying for people to eat shiat and get sick, and then pay for their healthcare, too!

people  say that like they personally get a bill each month.

IF, you pay taxes and don't any kind of refund (assuming you don't take any of the credits offered and actually get back MORE in federal taxes than you pay in) you portion of the bill is like what? a few dollars  a month?

compare that to the trillions in guaranteed loans to wall  street or the tax payer money that went to their bonuses  alone.

Family getting food vs, wall street douches getting their kitchen remodeled.

Which one do conservatives hate more? hmmmm


You're an idiot, people getting food stamps sickens me. Get a job, show up on time, do the work and go home. I don't care if it's, "a few dollars a month". It's my money and no one else deserves to have it. I'll pay taxes for a lot of things and I also think they are necessary, but if you can't get a job and figure out a budget, even at minimum wage, you farked up
 
2013-04-30 11:52:39 PM  
As someone whovhas kids who grew up in the inner city of milwauke, and have seen what constitutes a meal on more than a few locations, i'd agree with this. The other problem is the lack of access to a decent grocery store in certain zip codes. When the closest thing is a gas station convenience store, the food choices are going to be garbage.
 
2013-04-30 11:53:57 PM  

Ranger Rover: If your slashy is suggesting I said or implied that, you're just looking for a fight that I didn't start and don't want to give you.

As for where I'm getting the assertions I made, from about four years now of working with (and hanging out with) low-income populations in various capacities. I was a teacher first and then have spent the last couple of years in a legal clinic serving indigent clients and working mainly with families of young children. We talk about these things. Also, I'm learning the process myself. I grew up very comfortably, am now on a very limited budget (mostly because that's what you have to deal with when your job is helping poor people) and several of the things I talked about apply to myself as much as anyone else, and many friends in similar situations from similar backgrounds.


Nope. My slashie was meant as a general rant against the attitude, not meant to be taken personally.

My experience is with the low-income community in suburban Los Angeles. There's a lot of us here. The only reason most people can't resolve a budget is because they have 500 dollars, rent is 400, car is 100, and they wait on the electricity and water bills until they get a disconnect notice. That's not "not knowing how" to budget. That's being a position where budgeting skills won't help you no matter what you do. The problem is most people on the outside looking in can't tell the difference (see o5, for example), and so they come up with these rules to fight problems that have imaginary causes (the problem is real, the root is pure fiction).

I'm similar to you; I grew up upper middle class, now I'm dirt poor. Biggest problem I have is not knowing how to navigate the welfare systems to get what I need. I know there are programs out there that I might qualify for, but figuring out how to access them is beyond me. Not to mention my situation doesn't fit the boxes they like to give you. Example: They want to know how I pay for things. If I mention my fiance's income, then I have to submit his, his parents (as they claim him as a dependent), and my tax returns. Yeah, you go asking your mother-in-law for her tax returns and see what kind of answer you get. For disability, I needed to get 4 letters from my employer stating a) when I worked, b) what my weekly hours were, c) what my ending pay was, and d) what my last paycheck amount was (yes, in 4 separate letters, one letter with all the information wouldn't work). When I went to my employer, they said to talk to the temp agency. Temp agency said talk to the employer.
 
2013-04-30 11:56:05 PM  
Great.  Now "My EBT" is stuck in my head.

/1778
 
2013-04-30 11:56:17 PM  

o5iiawah: 12349876: Good for you.  You don't fit into my qualifiers.  Not everyone lives 1/4 mile from the grocery.  Not everyone has good direct public transportation from their house to the grocery.  But keep pretending everyone is as fortunate as you are.

ok, so who are these people who fit your qualifiers.  Give me a percentage of the population who is starving because for some reason, we can get power, light plumbing and SNAP to their house but there's no food stores anywhere.

Believe you me, if I could live out in the boonies, away from buses, trains and everything else, i would.  Nothing beats county fruit/veggie stands or even your own garden.  Seems the further you live from a food store, the better access you have to fruits and veggies.  Growing up in Sticks, FL that was always my experience anyways...


I'm not talking boonies here, I'm talking inner cities and poorly planned suburbias.  And I'm not talking about starvation, I'm talking access to a large selection of affordable fresh food.  You may be close to a 7-11 but not a Kroger or farmer's market.  I live 2 miles from a Kroger.  But if I wanted to get there on public transportation I'd have to travel about 10 miles and make a transfer.  My city's bus grid is largely hub and spoke downtown to one suburb and little connections between the suburbs.  It'd probably be faster for me to walk.  And of course in my Boobies on the subject, I clearly said a REAL HASSLE, which does not equal impossible.
 
2013-04-30 11:57:09 PM  
Wisconsin will soon have the healthiest drug dealers in the nation.
 
2013-04-30 11:57:14 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Very rarely I find myself loving living in buttfark central WI.


Dude, move to Madison.  shiat rocks here.  Those cheese curds you love to squeak on?  I picked up a pound of freshly made ones at the farmer's market on Jenifer St. today.  Made at 4AM just outside town, just $5 a pound.  Lots of varieties too; got some with fresh dill seasoning today.  Didn't even have to drive, even though I live like 6 miles away.  Bike path all the way except for about 6 blocks from my house, and the last two blocks before the market.  Tons of young ladies out jogging/biking/skating/sunbathing along the way.  Lots of fit dudes with shirts off too, if you're into that, or if you're a rare internet girl.  Grabbed some coffee at one of the awesome coffee shops on Willy St before riding home.  Life's too short to not enjoy where you live.

/was a good day
//still a little amped up from the coffee
 
2013-05-01 12:00:56 AM  
Still redeemable for crack.
 
2013-05-01 12:01:39 AM  
It's nice to see Fark's pro veg moderates (or whatever leftists are called now) condemn plan because a most unsavoury repub brought the change.
 
2013-05-01 12:02:19 AM  

Peki: Okay. Let's make it someone who works 80 hours a week and has one kid. Now what's your beef?

/hint: It's not about how many kids they have, or how much they work. You just don't want them on your dime, and you'll do whatever you want to make it as uncomfortable as possible.


I dont care that someone is on "My dime" as a state run food program for someone in a transition is a hallmark of a stable society. I get that.

We're constantly being told in regards to guns that rights come with responsibilities however with that we have to be fair andacknowledge that part of having the right to have 5 kids comes with the responsibility of trying to provide some level of sustenance for them. Your right to sleep with whomever you want and make your own sexual choices comes with the responsibility of bearing the costs associated with an "oops." That isn't punishing anyone - it is called expecting people who demand the freedom to make adult decisions deal with consequences of those decisions.


fusillade762: This from the party that wants to make abortion illegal and contraception harder to get


50 years and 5 republican presidents have gone by since RvW yet it is still the law of the land.  Your schtick is tired.  Oh, and which GOP nominee in the last election cycle wanted to ban contraception?  Hell one of them actually prescribes it regularly it in his medical profession.
 
2013-05-01 12:03:02 AM  
I am a delivery driver for Coca Cola, I often deliver in the inner city.  Any time i'm in the hood, i witness 2-10 kids walk into a gas station and buy 20-60 dollars worth of chips, soda, candy, energy drinks... etc.

ALL on their parents QUEST card, I find it sad that they can buy all this shiat, yet they cant go to the local supermarket and buy a rotisserie chicken or a sub from Subway..

I'm personally all for this considering the amount of crap you can buy with the food stamps, I know stops that will give you CASH (50c to the Dollar) for your quest card money...

that said, PLEASE let this go through, I'm sick of seeing people spend the equivalent to a weeks worth of groceries for 2 people on junk food.
 
2013-05-01 12:03:02 AM  

RockChalkH1N1: You're an idiot, people getting food stamps sickens me. Get a job, show up on time, do the work and go home. I don't care if it's, "a few dollars a month". It's my money and no one else deserves to have it. I'll pay taxes for a lot of things and I also think they are necessary, but if you can't get a job and figure out a budget, even at minimum wage, you farked up


4/10

TTH, dude.
 
2013-05-01 12:03:30 AM  

Peki: freetomato: I'd be okay with a short class on smart shopping and budget management being made available to those who need it, even mandatory possibly. Many people didn't get that kind of common sense education from their parents like they should have. Many are not necessarily going to magically just "get it" if their benefits are more restricted.

Deal.

o5iiawah: If your argument is that someone with 5 kids, who works 80 hours a week doesn't have time to sit in the kitchen and make food all day, chances are they should have stopped at one kid.

Okay. Let's make it someone who works 80 hours a week and has one kid. Now what's your beef?

/hint: It's not about how many kids they have, or how much they work. You just don't want them on your dime, and you'll do whatever you want to make it as uncomfortable as possible.


Why WOULD you want them on your dime?
 
2013-05-01 12:04:07 AM  

o5iiawah: I walk to the grocery store. 1/4 mile away. Its also has a city bus that stops out front and a train stop thats 1/4 mile away as well. Each offers low-fares for needy individuals. Take your SNAP and your low income bus voucher to the store and pick up some fruits and vegetables. I'm sorry, but feeding yourself is a responsibility of being a human.


You do realize that a lot of places don't offer low fare for needy individuals or have nearby public transportation, right? Or have proper, and by proper I mean a regular grocery store vs a convenience store, they can get to easily?

I mean, it's nice that your area has really good public transportation and your close to a grocery store, but for many people that's not the case.
 
2013-05-01 12:05:59 AM  
In Michigan there's a program in place that gives double food assistance value if you spend it at select farm markets. I think that is an awesome way to encourage healthier eating.
 
2013-05-01 12:06:35 AM  
I'm sure there's plenty left.

thepoelog.files.wordpress.com

Seriously, though, we should all eat more vegetables.

It helps you poop a lot better than cheese does.
 
2013-05-01 12:06:46 AM  

o5iiawah: Yeah about that. Staple fruits and veggies are not that expensive.

Apples: $2/lb
Onions: $1/lb
Grapefruit: $1/ea
Mango: 2 for $3
2lb Bag of carrots: $2.99
Oranges: $1/ea
Limes: 3/$1


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99 cents. Guessing it has more calories than a grapefruit.
 
2013-05-01 12:08:04 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Dingleberry Dickwad: Very rarely I find myself loving living in buttfark central WI.

Dude, move to Madison.  shiat rocks here.  Those cheese curds you love to squeak on?  I picked up a pound of freshly made ones at the farmer's market on Jenifer St. today.  Made at 4AM just outside town, just $5 a pound.  Lots of varieties too; got some with fresh dill seasoning today.  Didn't even have to drive, even though I live like 6 miles away.  Bike path all the way except for about 6 blocks from my house, and the last two blocks before the market.  Tons of young ladies out jogging/biking/skating/sunbathing along the way.  Lots of fit dudes with shirts off too, if you're into that, or if you're a rare internet girl.  Grabbed some coffee at one of the awesome coffee shops on Willy St before riding home.  Life's too short to not enjoy where you live.

/was a good day
//still a little amped up from the coffee


Madison sucks.  I wish we could scoop it out and put it in Illinois where it belongs.
 
2013-05-01 12:08:39 AM  

RockChalkH1N1: You're an idiot, people getting food stamps sickens me. Get a job, show up on time, do the work and go home. I don't care if it's, "a few dollars a month". It's my money and no one else deserves to have it. I'll pay taxes for a lot of things and I also think they are necessary, but if you can't get a job and figure out a budget, even at minimum wage, you farked up


And this is the official line until the government unemployment numbers come out, at which point the official line becomes "OBUMMER DUN RUN ALL THE JOBS OFF WHAT DID YOU EXPECT HOPE AND CHANGE!!!"
 
2013-05-01 12:08:51 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Summercat: SCUBA_Archer: As long as the poors can keep trading these veggie stamps for packs of smokes outside of bodegas, I don't think anything will change with the world.

In California, SNAP benefits are now on an electronic card.

I'm not even certain paper food stamps exist any longer. Most states use EBT cards for TANF & SNAP benefits.


I'm provinceial as all get.

Also, ah, thanks for the TF? No clue why I got it @_@
 
2013-05-01 12:09:46 AM  
I'm OK with this.  WIC does this already.
 
2013-05-01 12:10:05 AM  
Go be poor somewhere else!
 
2013-05-01 12:10:35 AM  
As a progressive, I support this, though I am concerned that they're effectively raising the price of food for persons on SNAP. One of junk food's biggest draws is that it is cheap. Even so, this is common sense--especially because they're not completely forbidding snack foods, but only limiting them.

That this isn't national policy is a testament to the political pull of Big Agribusiness and food processing. Which is in turn the main reason this won't spread beyond Wisconsin, and will probably be overturned even there within a few years. Whoever sponsored this bill obviously didn't get the memo from the national party leadership.

Major corporations pissed about this bill include but are not limited to Coca-Cola company, McKee foods (owners of the Little Debbie brand), PepsiCo (who owns not only Pepsi, but also Frito-Lay).And since we know corporations are people, and money is speech, you can count on these concerned citizens to persuasively express their opposition to these kinds of laws using purely logical arguments articulated in dollar signs.
 
2013-05-01 12:11:22 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: onions are sometimes. Not all fruits and veggies are expensive.


Don't even farking call onions "vegetables." That's like calling persimmon a "fruit" and sassafras an "herbal tea." Technically correct in name only.
 
2013-05-01 12:11:45 AM  

bborchar: cheap public transportation.


In Chicago, a one way bus ride is 2.25. No transfers. So, provided you only have to take 1 bus, that's 4.50 round trip for one person to haul home a week's worth of groceries. Is it feasible that one person riding a bus can transport a week's worth of food for a family? What if a grocery store is 2 buses away? Make that 9.00 round trip. Low income people, with the exception of senior citizens, don't get discounted or free transportation. Basically, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
2013-05-01 12:11:51 AM  

ZeroCorpse: In Michigan there's a program in place that gives double food assistance value if you spend it at select farm markets. I think that is an awesome way to encourage healthier eating.


Virginia, MD, and DC also do this.
 
2013-05-01 12:13:44 AM  

albatros183: I keep hearing about Wisconsin cheese but I've never seen it here is it only available in  Wisconsin  ?


Yes.  You can't have any.
 
2013-05-01 12:13:52 AM  

Somacandra: The All-Powerful Atheismo: onions are sometimes. Not all fruits and veggies are expensive.

Don't even farking call onions "vegetables." That's like calling persimmon a "fruit" and sassafras an "herbal tea." Technically correct in name only.


Does that apply to all onions, or just the yellow ones?
 
2013-05-01 12:14:03 AM  

o5iiawah: Go ahead and eat healthy for a week. You'd be amazed how much your body doens't get salt/sugar cravings and how long something as stupid as an apple can go towards keeping you full for a while. I'm a 28 year old normal sized dude and a $.70 apple for breakfast tides me over just fine until Lunch.


Interesting; I eat apples because I know they're healthy, but eating an apple by itself makes me hungrier than I was before.
 
2013-05-01 12:14:06 AM  

MemeSlave: Peki: freetomato: I'd be okay with a short class on smart shopping and budget management being made available to those who need it, even mandatory possibly. Many people didn't get that kind of common sense education from their parents like they should have. Many are not necessarily going to magically just "get it" if their benefits are more restricted.

Deal.

o5iiawah: If your argument is that someone with 5 kids, who works 80 hours a week doesn't have time to sit in the kitchen and make food all day, chances are they should have stopped at one kid.

Okay. Let's make it someone who works 80 hours a week and has one kid. Now what's your beef?

/hint: It's not about how many kids they have, or how much they work. You just don't want them on your dime, and you'll do whatever you want to make it as uncomfortable as possible.

Why WOULD you want them on your dime?


Because I'm a humanitarian that doesn't think people should die just because they can't afford food or healthcare. There are other consequences to having a large, underfed, underemployed, poor population, and I just don't think the insanely small amount that is paid comparatively in taxes are too much to avoid those consequences.

o5iiawah: Your right to sleep with whomever you want and make your own sexual choices comes with the responsibility of bearing the costs associated with an "oops." That isn't punishing anyone - it is called expecting people who demand the freedom to make adult decisions deal with consequences of those decisions.


The problem is that by punishing the parents you punish the kids. You're okay with starving children? On your conscience, buddy.
 
2013-05-01 12:14:46 AM  

vpb: Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.


this.
 
2013-05-01 12:15:05 AM  

Fart_Machine: I'm OK with this.  WIC does this already.


And to boot WIC is more of an equivalence of items rather than cash cost--that's better when nutrient-dense material like spinach, and asparagus are most costly.
 
JVD
2013-05-01 12:15:10 AM  
They shouldn't be able to buy any food that they can't buy on the WIC (Women, Infants and Children) program. It is a very strict list of healthy foods.


Way to go Wisconsin.
 
2013-05-01 12:15:21 AM  

Summercat: Also, ah, thanks for the TF?


You're welcome
 
2013-05-01 12:15:38 AM  
Are there not free puppies and kittens for the poor?

t1.gstatic.com

/been on food stamps...mostly bought fruits and veggies anyway
 
2013-05-01 12:16:51 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Does that apply to all onions, or just the yellow ones?


FARK ALL ONIONS. Except for the amounts necessary to create onion powder seasoning, all onions need to eat shiat and die post haste.
 
2013-05-01 12:17:51 AM  
fark Wisconsin
 
2013-05-01 12:19:42 AM  

JVD: They shouldn't be able to buy any food that they can't buy on the WIC (Women, Infants and Children) program. It is a very strict list of healthy foods.


I suppose if you count juice (essentially sugar) and starchy cereals  as healthy :-)....naw, WIC is alright--its a great program, I'd just rather see subsidies for vegetables rather than wheat and corn (just starch)
 
2013-05-01 12:20:11 AM  

Peki: The problem is most people on the outside looking in can't tell the difference (see o5, for example),


The problem is you're such an insufferable wanna-be intellectual that you wouldn't know perspective if it ran over you with a car, backed over you and hit you again.  I didn't grow up rich or upper middle class like you, douchebag.

You might say that I didn't have "access" to food as a kid either. I grew up in a not great area and the closest food market was about 3 miles away.  Well guess what?  There were a lot of people in the neighborhood like that too and they came up with creative solutions like growing food in the neighborhood, organizing a co-op to get food delivered or even taking turns carpooling to the store.

Point is that people actually gave a shiat what they were feeding their kids.  The idea that people would rather feed their kids mac n cheez or spaghetti os instead of fresh fruit and veggies is appalling since there's absolutely no benefit in doing so.  Kids are hungry faster, get less nutrition and it is more expensive in food and healthcare costs later.  Equate it however you want but putting crap food in your body is the equivalent of going 15,000 miles over the suggested interval for your oil changes.  It simply costs more time, more money and more headache in the long run.

12349876: I'm not talking boonies here, I'm talking inner cities and poorly planned suburbias.  And I'm not talking about starvation, I'm talking access to a large selection of affordable fresh food.  You may be close to a 7-11 but not a Kroger or farmer's market.


Yeah, so show me people who subsist almost entirely off crap from 7/11.
You're manufacturing a problem that doens't exist.  People have plenty of access to affordable food. They choose not to eat it because it takes time to prepare when they get it home from the store and before they cook it.  Easier to put a box in the pantry and give the kids one of the 6 packages inside each day that to cut up a piece of fruit.  There's a gigantic market of people in urban areas who consume food. The reason stores may not stock as much fruits and veggies is because people are choosing not to eat it in favor of "hot bar" food and prepackaged meals.  If people all of a sudden demanded fresh fruits and vegetables, stores would stock it and prices would go down as more product can be delivered on the same truck that comes regardless
 
2013-05-01 12:20:19 AM  

Peki: I'm similar to you; I grew up upper middle class, now I'm dirt poor. Biggest problem I have is not knowing how to navigate the welfare systems to get what I need. I know there are programs out there that I might qualify for, but figuring out how to access them is beyond me. Not to mention my situation doesn't fit the boxes they like to give you. Example: They want to know how I pay for things. If I mention my fiance's income, then I have to submit his, his parents (as they claim him as a dependent), and my tax returns. Yeah, you go asking your mother-in-law for her tax returns and see what kind of answer you get. For disability, I needed to get 4 letters from my employer stating a) when I worked, b) what my weekly hours were, c) what my ending pay was, and d) what my last paycheck amount was (yes, in 4 separate letters, one letter with all the information wouldn't work). When I went to my employer, they said to talk to the temp agency. Temp agency said talk to the employer.


I'm sympathetic. Although I do believe some degree of difficulty in obtaining benefits is justified due to the state's interest in keeping ineligible recipients off the rolls, I do agree this is unreasonable. What I don't know (and maybe you do) is how many of these situations like the ones you describe are due to a**holes in the benefits offices having bad days, or to redundancies and inefficiencies in the statutory scheme.

I don't work in our benefits department, but I know my office has one to help clients like you get the benefits they need. I just tried to search for one for you, and there are a few in Los Angeles County, but this seems like a good place to start: http://www.nlsla.org/programs/practices/administrative-law
Link is to the NLSLA's "Administrative Law Unit," which would be the practice area most likely to help clients navigate benefits claims issues.
 
2013-05-01 12:20:35 AM  
was on food stamps for 5 months while unemployed, moved back home after my lease was up, found out i still had 50 some-odd dollars on my card, treated my parents to a nice steak dinner for allowing me to move back home for a period of time.

I also agree it should be more strict like WIC, and maybe have a certain percentage/amount allotted for "junk" foods
 
2013-05-01 12:20:51 AM  

kombat_unit: It's nice to see Fark's pro veg moderates (or whatever leftists are called now) condemn plan because a most unsavoury repub brought the change.


You do realize it's the notion that they'll probably get the same amount of money, and that it has to be spent on more expensive food now, right?

Right?

Ah, forget it.  We could look to Detroit, MI, where they've been using vacant lots to build community gardens in the absence of decent grocery stores, but hey, people hear "community" and think "communist".  Because rolling up your sleeves and working as a team is un-American.  Just ask Rudy  Giuliani.
 
2013-05-01 12:21:17 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: convenience store


Again, show me some numbers on people who eat almost exclusively from convenience stores.
 
2013-05-01 12:21:22 AM  

KarmicDisaster: Since Republicans are doing this, there is probably some reason. This won't save taxpayers a dime, since people will still get the same amount of aid but will just spend it on other stuff, so cost savings is not the reason. I think that the real reason is the Republican desire to "punish" people that they don't like, just like their parents punished them.


I think  you're on to something, but I suspect a different motive: When the Governor of Florida wanted drug testing, it turned out that his wife owned drug testing facilities. I suspect the same motives here. Eventually, there will be an attempt to limit the purchases to one or two particular brands i.e. "Koch Brothers new Mango Cherry foodstuffs". Even better: have distribution centers, where people pick up their "approved" food. I'm sure quite a few people are salivating over that thought, a contract like that would be worth billions.

The GOP would be fine with poor people eating watered-down gruel. The only interest in limiting food choices is to steer contracts and sales a certain way. I'm guessing that many vegetable companies are backing Brinks Trucks full of dough into politicians' driveways.
 
2013-05-01 12:22:08 AM  

PsiChick: The big problem with this bill, though, is that healthy foods cost more. Nowhere in TFA do they mention SNAP  paying for how much more it costs...which means if that's your only food income, suddenly you might not have enough food anymore.


politicalmadness.org
 
2013-05-01 12:25:42 AM  

Infernalist: Great Janitor: Well, if the government is feeding you, don't they get a say in what you eat?

Sure, but they have to compensate for the price difference between 'cheap essentials' like rice, beans and milk and eggs and bread and lunch meats....and the higher prices of things like fresh fruits and veggies.  Because they'll quickly run out of benefits before the end of the month if they don't compensate for the higher prices of those healthy foods.


Nonsense as many have already posted veggies and fruit are not all that expensive, particularly if you are not buying the over priced organic stuff. I know carrots, bananas, strawberries etc are relatively cheap where I live and the store brand canned fruits and veggies are cheap also. The too expensive argument does not fly
 
2013-05-01 12:26:47 AM  
Fresh fruit is expensive. It's not like it grows on trees you know.
 
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