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(WIBA 1310 Madison)   Wisconsin to force food stamps recipients to spend money on fruits and vegetables. And probably cheese since it's Wisconsin   (wiba.com) divider line 376
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2013-04-30 08:08:45 PM
ten percent can go towards packers "stock"
 
2013-04-30 08:32:27 PM
hypocritical. nobody in wisconsin eats fruits and vegetables. i spent many a weekend at road america back in the 90s - 3-days, paddock pass - and the only things consumed were brats, cheese and beer.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-30 08:58:23 PM
Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.
 
2013-04-30 09:15:23 PM
This doesn't make sense. Forcing the masses to eat right will only make them healthier. And smarter.

Republicans don't like thinking people. Who are they going to fill the jails with?
 
2013-04-30 09:28:13 PM
Government cheese was good stuff, best grilled cheese ever.
 
2013-04-30 09:33:03 PM

basemetal: Government cheese was good stuff, best grilled cheese ever.


it was, wasn't it? i wouldn't know. my hobo uncle would.
 
2013-04-30 09:33:25 PM

vpb: Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.


That's what I'm wondering. Fruits & vegetables, especially fresh ones, tend to be expensive. And quite frankly not everyone has access to a large supermarket where the produce prices are generally cheaper.
 
2013-04-30 09:42:14 PM

Bathia_Mapes: That's what I'm wondering. Fruits & vegetables, especially fresh ones, tend to be expensive. And quite frankly not everyone has access to a large supermarket where the produce prices are generally cheaper.


Beans and rice are whole foods, as are frozen and canned veggies, and all are far better than the heavily-processed junk food that they're targeting.

Food stamps (TANF, SNAP) are meant to SUPPLEMENT the food budget for families.  The government need not be in the business of subsidizing diabetes, heart disease, strokes, and other dietary killers among the poor, for whom the limited healthcare they receive is often paid for by... the government.  Yeah, veggies are more expensive than nutrient-bereft corn chips, but they also don't lead to a poor populace that is both obese and malnourished.  White rice isn't that good for you, but at least it doesn't come with a litany of 25-cent-word processing ingredients.
 
2013-04-30 09:55:58 PM

factoryconnection: Bathia_Mapes: That's what I'm wondering. Fruits & vegetables, especially fresh ones, tend to be expensive. And quite frankly not everyone has access to a large supermarket where the produce prices are generally cheaper.

Beans and rice are whole foods, as are frozen and canned veggies, and all are far better than the heavily-processed junk food that they're targeting.

Food stamps (TANF, SNAP) are meant to SUPPLEMENT the food budget for families.  The government need not be in the business of subsidizing diabetes, heart disease, strokes, and other dietary killers among the poor, for whom the limited healthcare they receive is often paid for by... the government.  Yeah, veggies are more expensive than nutrient-bereft corn chips, but they also don't lead to a poor populace that is both obese and malnourished.  White rice isn't that good for you, but at least it doesn't come with a litany of 25-cent-word processing ingredients.


Yes, SNAP is meant to supplement a family's food budget, but in reality it's often the only source a family has to buy food. It's not uncommon for the work income of a family to go towards rent, transportation to & from work, necessary clothing, etc., with nothing left to purchase food.

BTW-TANF is cash benefits and not everyone on SNAP gets TANF.
 
2013-04-30 10:00:50 PM
Can't we just farkin' feed people?

We send billions in rice and grain to other countries. Let's just give people some farkin' food. Stop paying farm subsidies for fallow fields and ask them to kick out a few billion bushels of bush beans and such. Every poor family gets X beans and rice per week and some flinstones chewable vitamins. Don't like it? Find a way to make money.
 
2013-04-30 10:06:59 PM
We should give them the enriched peanut butter-paste stuff we use to keep Africans alive.  It's cheap and it doesn't lead to high health care costs and unsightly fatness.
 
2013-04-30 10:22:58 PM

Bathia_Mapes: vpb: Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.

That's what I'm wondering. Fruits & vegetables, especially fresh ones, tend to be expensive. And quite frankly not everyone has access to a large supermarket where the produce prices are generally cheaper.


carrots are cheap as shiat.  onions are sometimes.  Not all fruits and veggies are expensive.
 
2013-04-30 10:23:54 PM
Fresh foods are great, but don't keep well for very long.

Fresh foods also mean going to the grocery store more often.  Which means more time wasted and spending more money on gas or public transportation.  They hardly get anything to put towards food as it is and the politicians are trying to make it even more difficult to survive.

If the politicians really want to make fresh foods a big part of the plan then they need to give a lot more money.  They should triple it.
They never will, but they should.
 
2013-04-30 10:25:28 PM

doglover: Every poor family gets X beans and rice per week and some flinstones chewable vitamins. Don't like it? Find a way to make money.


People on food stamps suggenly getting a bag of beans and rice. Yeah, that would go well.
 
2013-04-30 10:26:41 PM
You take Caesar's coin, you play by Caesar's rules.
 
2013-04-30 10:26:42 PM
THAT'S UN-AMERKIN!
 
2013-04-30 10:28:12 PM
I don't know... As a demo libby lib, I think I am okay with this, as long as market prices allow families on assistance to feed themselves and their kids.
 
2013-04-30 10:28:23 PM

basemetal: Government cheese was good stuff, best grilled cheese ever.

Holy crap! Yes it was.
 
2013-04-30 10:30:29 PM
Cheese and any dairy are good for people, you get calcium and vitamin D, at least. As a snack food, it could be better than say, candy and cookies.
 
2013-04-30 10:30:43 PM
Frito-Lay and Coca-Cola will make some "campaign contributions" and this bill will quietly go away.
 
2013-04-30 10:32:23 PM
I see at least one Republican is on board with the First Lady's initiative.
 
2013-04-30 10:33:08 PM
As long as the poors can keep trading these veggie stamps for packs of smokes outside of bodegas, I don't think anything will change with the world.
 
2013-04-30 10:33:31 PM
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Once again, I break this out. 30 million dollars a day, or 11.5 billion a year, 3 servings of rice to everyone ni the US.

No, it's not meant to be the entirety of the food. It's meant to supplement and shift their food spending to include healthier items that the rice can supplemental. Nor is rice the only option, it's just the one I had math on.

Yes, that includes an estimate of overhead and distribution.
 
2013-04-30 10:33:43 PM

vpb: Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.


No shiat. Fresh fruit is expensive, especially this time of year. Heck, raspberries were $4 a pint last Saturday if I remember properly.
 
2013-04-30 10:34:42 PM

SCUBA_Archer: As long as the poors can keep trading these veggie stamps for packs of smokes outside of bodegas, I don't think anything will change with the world.


In California, SNAP benefits are now on an electronic card.
 
2013-04-30 10:35:34 PM

vpb: Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.


In RI, you can get $7 in "Freshbucks" for $5 of SNAP for use in farmer's markets.
 
2013-04-30 10:35:44 PM
Fruits and vegetables aren't as expensive as people make them out to be. Sure if you're going to buy organic ginger tended to by Tibetan monks, it's going to cost you, but your general stock fruit and vegetables aren't very much. I think the most I spend on a per item basis is lemons, which are like eighty cents.

I'd like to see the percentage of food stamps that must be spent on these ways relaxed to allow for some lean meat, but I'm not altogether against the idea.
 
2013-04-30 10:35:53 PM

Treygreen13: doglover: Every poor family gets X beans and rice per week and some flinstones chewable vitamins. Don't like it? Find a way to make money.

People on food stamps suggenly getting a bag of beans and rice. Yeah, that would go well.


It would end the debate on where the money goes and feed my future sol- er fellow Americans proper nutrition.

Also they don't get the rice till they pass a marksmanship class and physical exam is phase 2.

Finally, they have to kiss a picture of the bear flag.
 
2013-04-30 10:35:59 PM
Food Stamps are for live lobster, everyone knows that.
 
2013-04-30 10:36:37 PM
Sure. Force them to spend two thirds of the monthly SNAP on fruits and veggies that will be rotten within a week, leaving three weeks of starvation on what little food stamps are left.

Cunning plan. Not all the way through. Etc. Etc.
 
2013-04-30 10:38:20 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Fruits and vegetables aren't as expensive as people make them out to be. Sure if you're going to buy organic ginger tended to by Tibetan monks, it's going to cost you, but your general stock fruit and vegetables aren't very much. I think the most I spend on a per item basis is lemons, which are like eighty cents.

I'd like to see the percentage of food stamps that must be spent on these ways relaxed to allow for some lean meat, but I'm not altogether against the idea.


they could just eliminate whatever they're calling "junk food" entirely from eligibility
 
2013-04-30 10:38:22 PM
This is a problem, only because the Feds subsidize crap used in crappy foods, making healthy foods comparatively expensive. The primary reason people on food stamps buy crap is because that's all they can afford. All this will do is make it harder for more people to buy enough food to not be hungry.
 
2013-04-30 10:38:31 PM

Krumet: You take Caesar's coin, you play by Caesar's rules.


Untilllll............

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2013-04-30 10:39:37 PM
I know two people who get SNAP, one works full time and has 5 kids living at home, they get around $300/month and spend it mostly on meat, bread, and milk.

The other doesn't work and hides bf-now-recently-husband's self-employment income, they get around $600/month with 3 kids living at home, and spend it mostly on spaghetti o's and boxed macaroni and cheese for the kids. They eat out almost every day on bf-now-recently-husband's hidden income. (They also own 3 cars...2 of which are newer than mine, and one with a $400/month car payment, which is affordable for them because they live in section 8 housing and only pay $180.month for their 3 bedroom townhouse).

The latter is one reason why people create bills like this.
 
2013-04-30 10:39:39 PM
I'm OK with this.
 
2013-04-30 10:41:50 PM
Well, if the government is feeding you, don't they get a say in what you eat?
 
2013-04-30 10:42:25 PM
Better crank up the shiat treatment plant another notch.
 
2013-04-30 10:42:53 PM

Great Janitor: Well, if the government is feeding you, don't they get a say in what you eat?


basically the idea here it seems
 
2013-04-30 10:43:11 PM

vpb: Are they going to give them extra on their SNAP card to cover the expense of these luxuries?

If I was on SNAP I would be buying a lot of dried beans and rice, and not too much fresh vegetables.


They can buy frozen vegetables.
 
2013-04-30 10:43:34 PM
Fruits and veggies aren't that expensive and a banana goes a lot further nutritionally than say, a bag o' chips.

That said, these foods can be hard to come by for some people without transportation, so it should be paired with addressing the lack of quality food in impoverished areas.
 
2013-04-30 10:43:50 PM

take_flight: I know two people who get SNAP, one works full time and has 5 kids living at home, they get around $300/month and spend it mostly on meat, bread, and milk.

The other doesn't work and hides bf-now-recently-husband's self-employment income, they get around $600/month with 3 kids living at home, and spend it mostly on spaghetti o's and boxed macaroni and cheese for the kids. They eat out almost every day on bf-now-recently-husband's hidden income. (They also own 3 cars...2 of which are newer than mine, and one with a $400/month car payment, which is affordable for them because they live in section 8 housing and only pay $180.month for their 3 bedroom townhouse).

The latter is one reason why people create bills like this.


Turn them in.
 
2013-04-30 10:43:59 PM

Great Janitor: Well, if the government is feeding you, don't they get a say in what you eat?


Sure, but they have to compensate for the price difference between 'cheap essentials' like rice, beans and milk and eggs and bread and lunch meats....and the higher prices of things like fresh fruits and veggies.  Because they'll quickly run out of benefits before the end of the month if they don't compensate for the higher prices of those healthy foods.
 
2013-04-30 10:44:13 PM

FlashHarry: hypocritical. nobody in wisconsin eats fruits and vegetables. i spent many a weekend at road america back in the 90s - 3-days, paddock pass - and the only things consumed were brats, cheese and beer.


Ahem, no fruit? Explain this!

assets.bizjournals.com
 
2013-04-30 10:44:57 PM

factoryconnection: Bathia_Mapes: That's what I'm wondering. Fruits & vegetables, especially fresh ones, tend to be expensive. And quite frankly not everyone has access to a large supermarket where the produce prices are generally cheaper.

Beans and rice are whole foods, as are frozen and canned veggies, and all are far better than the heavily-processed junk food that they're targeting.

Food stamps (TANF, SNAP) are meant to SUPPLEMENT the food budget for families.  The government need not be in the business of subsidizing diabetes, heart disease, strokes, and other dietary killers among the poor, for whom the limited healthcare they receive is often paid for by... the government.  Yeah, veggies are more expensive than nutrient-bereft corn chips, but they also don't lead to a poor populace that is both obese and malnourished.  White rice isn't that good for you, but at least it doesn't come with a litany of 25-cent-word processing ingredients.


I love the ingredients listed on my bag of rice:  Rice.
 
2013-04-30 10:47:17 PM
If they allow purchasing frozen vegetables, I don't see the big deal. Frozen are as healthy as fresh and last basically forever. Cheaper, too.
 
2013-04-30 10:47:55 PM

Mock26: take_flight: I know two people who get SNAP, one works full time and has 5 kids living at home, they get around $300/month and spend it mostly on meat, bread, and milk.

The other doesn't work and hides bf-now-recently-husband's self-employment income, they get around $600/month with 3 kids living at home, and spend it mostly on spaghetti o's and boxed macaroni and cheese for the kids. They eat out almost every day on bf-now-recently-husband's hidden income. (They also own 3 cars...2 of which are newer than mine, and one with a $400/month car payment, which is affordable for them because they live in section 8 housing and only pay $180.month for their 3 bedroom townhouse).

The latter is one reason why people create bills like this.

Turn them in.


They actually got nailed for day care fraud before they were married, and my state cross references, but his self-employment is hidden for the most part, (he doesn't even claim it with the IRS), and the process is very slow. Someone in my state who gets caught now might actually have repercussions in a year or two after they've been offered several chances to pay it back. Also, a few people are afraid to report them because of the kids.
 
2013-04-30 10:49:12 PM

machoprogrammer: If they allow purchasing frozen vegetables, I don't see the big deal. Frozen are as healthy as fresh and last basically forever. Cheaper, too.


I always have various bags of frozen vegetables in my freezer and cans of tomatoes and boxes of pasta in my fridge.  They are great for a quick meal when I have not yet had time to go to the grocery store that week.
 
2013-04-30 10:49:50 PM
Er, tomatoes and pasta in my pantry.
 
2013-04-30 10:50:05 PM

Godscrack: This doesn't make sense. Forcing the masses to eat right will only make them healthier. And smarter.

Republicans don't like thinking people. Who are they going to fill the jails with?


Nice to see you being a tolerant liberal and all.
Farking allah you're an *hole.

Nice
 
2013-04-30 10:50:20 PM
1) How to vendors implement this, and 2) as a person who eats mostly fresh whole foods, calorie for calorie, they tend to cost two or three times more than prefabricated meals.
 
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