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2013-04-30 12:18:28 PM
I have one of those, though it obviously hasn't been activated as a phone for years. I keep it in the glove-box of my car, where there's a plug to connect it to my car's audio system, which keeps it charged and allows it to function as an iPod to play music through the car's audio.  I figured it was pretty much worthless for anything else, but maybe I'll be able to sell it to some hipster someday for big bucks.  It's in like-new condition.

I'm only accepting non-ironic offers, hipsters.
 
2013-04-30 12:21:40 PM
www.emobilez.com
 
2013-04-30 12:39:32 PM

Cyberluddite: I have one of those, though it obviously hasn't been activated as a phone for years. I keep it in the glove-box of my car, where there's a plug to connect it to my car's audio system, which keeps it charged and allows it to function as an iPod to play music through the car's audio.  I figured it was pretty much worthless for anything else, but maybe I'll be able to sell it to some hipster someday for big bucks.  It's in like-new condition.

I'm only accepting non-ironic offers, hipsters.


Hey, they show up at garage sales now.
 
2013-04-30 01:09:15 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Hey, they show up at garage sales now.


They seem to generally sell for between $50 and $75 on eBay--though most of the ones I saw had cracked screens.  Really, though, 50 bucks seems pretty damn cheap for a used but fully-functional iPod Touch, which is essentially what a de-activated iPhone is.  Something you can listen to MP3s on, use as a notepad ("notepad" as in taking notes, not as in a small computer), address book, calendar, camera, wi-fi web browser, and dozens of other things, all for $50?  Not bad, really.
 
2013-04-30 01:20:24 PM

Cyberluddite: They seem to generally sell for between $50 and $75 on eBay--though most of the ones I saw had cracked screens. Really, though, 50 bucks seems pretty damn cheap for a used but fully-functional iPod Touch, which is essentially what a de-activated iPhone is. Something you can listen to MP3s on, use as a notepad ("notepad" as in taking notes, not as in a small computer), address book, calendar, camera, wi-fi web browser, and dozens of other things, all for $50? Not bad, really.


A few years back when I replaced my 3G, I replaced the battery (for $10 and a half hour of my time) and gave the phone to my 4 year old. She loves it. It plays games and videos, can take pictures and keep her occupied and quiet on a BWI to PDX flight*.

*everyone who glares as we board, grins and compliments as we deplane
 
2013-04-30 02:05:16 PM
I simply don't get the love for the iPhone.  I have a Note II and was recently forced to use a friend's iPhone 4S for navigation... dear god that thing is a piece of shiat, at least when it comes to integration with Google Maps.  It was like going back to my Motorola Q.  I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better.
 
2013-04-30 02:27:46 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: [www.emobilez.com image 320x480]


not allowed

jamesmacmillan.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-30 02:28:26 PM
timujin:  I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.
 
2013-04-30 02:31:53 PM

Cyberluddite: DjangoStonereaver: Hey, they show up at garage sales now.

They seem to generally sell for between $50 and $75 on eBay--though most of the ones I saw had cracked screens.  Really, though, 50 bucks seems pretty damn cheap for a used but fully-functional iPod Touch, which is essentially what a de-activated iPhone is.  Something you can listen to MP3s on, use as a notepad ("notepad" as in taking notes, not as in a small computer), address book, calendar, camera, wi-fi web browser, and dozens of other things, all for $50?  Not bad, really.


Not at all. It is a damn fine piece of technology even in this day and age.
 
2013-04-30 02:36:05 PM
Funny as hell - "FIVE YEARS OLD!? IT'S A DINOSAUR!" I have electrical tools that were made 40 years ago that still do their jobs as well as when they were first made. Heck,  I have hand tools that are more than a century old, that still work just fine.
 
2013-04-30 02:40:38 PM

zedster: Jon iz teh kewl: [www.emobilez.com image 320x480]

not allowed

[jamesmacmillan.files.wordpress.com image 461x375]


images.scroll.com.tr
 
2013-04-30 02:41:08 PM
This will soon be vintage too

rack.1.mshcdn.com
 
2013-04-30 02:46:08 PM
Dear everyone:

"Vintage" is not an adjective, it's a noun.  And it refers, essentially, to a manufacturing batch, originally of wine.

If you want an adjective that means "old", I would like to suggest for your consideration... "old".

Yours sincerely,
J. Callahan
 
2013-04-30 02:48:36 PM
img19.imageshack.us

^ What a "vintage" iPhone really looks like.
 
2013-04-30 02:48:39 PM

Jim_Callahan: Dear everyone:

"Vintage" is not an adjective, it's a noun.  And it refers, essentially, to a manufacturing batch, originally of wine.

If you want an adjective that means "old", I would like to suggest for your consideration... "old".

Yours sincerely,
J. Callahan


"Old" Porn. Check.
 
2013-04-30 02:51:34 PM
Apple has done this sort of thing for years, this is neither new nor news.  Old products that they would like to not support that the occasional person demands support for get put in the 'vintage' category.

And WTF is up with the stupid, misleading and outright wrong headlines on FARK today?  Do they even bother to read the articles to see if they have the vaguest connection to the headline anymore?
 
2013-04-30 02:53:12 PM

FormlessOne: Funny as hell - "FIVE YEARS OLD!? IT'S A DINOSAUR!" I have electrical tools that were made 40 years ago that still do their jobs as well as when they were first made. Heck,  I have hand tools that are more than a century old, that still work just fine.


How many of them are as sophisticated as an iPhone?

Alternatively, does your Gateway/Amiga/Commodore 64/ENIAC clone connected to an 800-baud modem that you put a phone handset on have any problem displaying Fark.com?

// not expecting an answer for about a week - lots of inline images on this page
 
2013-04-30 02:54:42 PM

Cyberluddite: I have one of those, though it obviously hasn't been activated as a phone for years. I keep it in the glove-box of my car, where there's a plug to connect it to my car's audio system, which keeps it charged and allows it to function as an iPod to play music through the car's audio.  I figured it was pretty much worthless for anything else, but maybe I'll be able to sell it to some hipster someday for big bucks.  It's in like-new condition.

I'm only accepting non-ironic offers, hipsters.


Not sure if this is the same in the US, but in Canada any phone as long as it is charged can dial 911. You don't even need to have it activated or anything. If it is the same then keeping the phone in your glove box isn't a bad idea.
 
2013-04-30 03:01:26 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.


I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.
 
2013-04-30 03:07:52 PM

mechgreg: Not sure if this is the same in the US, but in Canada any phone as long as it is charged can dial 911. You don't even need to have it activated or anything. If it is the same then keeping the phone in your glove box isn't a bad idea.


It's the same in the U.S., though I always have my working cell phone with me anyway so I can't see that I would ever use the old one in the glovebox.  But yeah, there used to be a couple of organizations that collected old, useless cell phones and handed them out for free to old ladies to carry around in their purses to dial 911 if they ever had an emergency (sort of the free equivalent of whatever product it was that they used to sell in the old "I've fallen and I can't get up!" ads) but seeing as how even old ladies generally have working cell phones now, I'm not sure how useful that would be today.
 
2013-04-30 03:14:51 PM

zedster: not allowed


Isn't that also part of the GNU GPL?
 
2013-04-30 03:20:34 PM

Jim_Callahan: "Vintage" is not an adjective, it's a noun.  And it refers, essentially, to a manufacturing batch, originally of wine.


This just in.  Words have more than one meaning.

vin·tage  [vin-tij] Show IPAnoun,adjective,verb,vin·taged,vin·tag·ing.noun1.the wine from a par ticular harvest or crop.2.the annual produce of the grape harvest, esp ecially with reference to the wine obtained.3.an exceptionally fine wi ne from the crop of a good year.4.the time of gathering grapes, or of  winemaking.5.the act or process of producing wine; winemaking.
adjective
7.of or pertaining to wines or winemaking.8.being of a specified vint age:Vintage wines are usually more expensive than nonvintage wines.9.r epresenting the high quality of a past time:vintage cars; vintage movi es.10.old-fashioned or obsolete:vintage jokes.11.being the best of its  kind:They praised the play as vintage O'Neill.
 
2013-04-30 03:21:10 PM

MrEricSir: [img19.imageshack.us image 300x326]

^ What a "vintage" iPhone really looks like.


Does that say "eat up martha"?
 
2013-04-30 03:21:29 PM
Well, that didn't format all that well.  The  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vintage?s=t link would probably work better.
 
2013-04-30 03:28:45 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin:  I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.


I really think you really think that the average i user is tech-aware.  99% of the people I've asked either are fans (cuz they do everything right) or they don't know there's other products out there that do roughly the same thing (some things better, some things not).
 
2013-04-30 03:47:25 PM

Dr Dreidel: Alternatively, does your Gateway/Amiga/Commodore 64/ENIAC clone connected to an 800-baud modem that you put a phone handset on have any problem displaying Fark.com?

// not expecting an answer for about a week - lots of inline images on this page


Certain flavours of Atari ST (and Amiga and indeed the C=64) have had TCP/IP stracks and ethernet drivers created for them.  There are web browsers for at least two of those machines.

I doubt either could deal with Fark though, now the mobile site might work.   But I don't want to start retrofitting my Atari just to test a theory, perhaps someone with a emulator could give it a whirl?
 
2013-04-30 03:49:53 PM

Uzzah: MrEricSir: [img19.imageshack.us image 300x326]

^ What a "vintage" iPhone really looks like.

Does that say "eat up martha"?


Only if you wrote 'beat up Martin."
 
2013-04-30 04:02:10 PM

timujin: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.


But painting every iphone user with a "rabid devotion" brush is clearly the rational stance.
 
2013-04-30 04:05:59 PM

timujin: I simply don't get the love for the iPhone.  I have a Note II and was recently forced to use a friend's iPhone 4S for navigation... dear god that thing is a piece of shiat, at least when it comes to integration with Google Maps.  It was like going back to my Motorola Q.  I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better.


If it was running anything newer than ios6, then it deliberatly *doesn't* integrate with anything Google (Maps, YouTube, etc). Apple and Google had a falling out.
 
2013-04-30 04:09:24 PM

SleepingEye: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin:  I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I really think you really think that the average i user is tech-aware.  99% of the people I've asked either are fans (cuz they do everything right) or they don't know there's other products out there that do roughly the same thing (some things better, some things not).


Is it ok if I use it because of your last reason? That is, because what it does better is more important to me than what it doesn't?

I use it because its the best solution for *me*. If that makes me a fanboy, so be it.
 
2013-04-30 04:11:42 PM

Gecko Gingrich: If it was running anything newer than ios6, then it deliberatly *doesn't* integrate with anything Google (Maps, YouTube, etc). Apple and Google had a falling out.


Kind of sort of not really.

Google's mapping data is not owned exclusively by Google. They license quite a bit of information from third parties. As a result, their licensing agreement forbids them to license the aggregated data to companies that want to use certain features such as turn-by-turn navigation. Apple was way behind Android on having an integrated turn-by-turn navigation solution in iOS, so to compete they had to create their own.

With Google no longer supplying mapping data, they released Google Maps with that functionality built in and it has good integration with other apps. For example, if I want driving directions home from Google Now, it will open Google maps if it is installed or launch the Google Maps webapp.
 
2013-04-30 04:16:39 PM

Jim_Callahan: Dear everyone:

"Vintage" is not an adjective, it's a noun.  And it refers, essentially, to a manufacturing batch, originally of wine.

If you want an adjective that means "old", I would like to suggest for your consideration... "old".

Yours sincerely,
J. Callahan


Sorry no. You are not the boss of English.

/literally
 
2013-04-30 04:32:04 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Apple has done this sort of thing for years, this is neither new nor news.  Old products that they would like to not support that the occasional person demands support for get put in the 'vintage' category.

And WTF is up with the stupid, misleading and outright wrong headlines on FARK today?  Do they even bother to read the articles to see if they have the vaguest connection to the headline anymore?


10 Yes. But you clicked on the link. Fox News gets people to watch by televising Derp, Fark gets people to click links by labeling them Derp.
20 welcome_to_fark.jpg
30 GOTO 10
 
2013-04-30 04:34:06 PM

MightyPez: Gecko Gingrich: If it was running anything newer than ios6, then it deliberatly *doesn't* integrate with anything Google (Maps, YouTube, etc). Apple and Google had a falling out.

Kind of sort of not really.

Google's mapping data is not owned exclusively by Google. They license quite a bit of information from third parties. As a result, their licensing agreement forbids them to license the aggregated data to companies that want to use certain features such as turn-by-turn navigation. Apple was way behind Android on having an integrated turn-by-turn navigation solution in iOS, so to compete they had to create their own.

With Google no longer supplying mapping data, they released Google Maps with that functionality built in and it has good integration with other apps. For example, if I want driving directions home from Google Now, it will open Google maps if it is installed or launch the Google Maps webapp.


Right, but it doesn't integrate. Using a webapp isn't integration.
 
2013-04-30 04:36:05 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Right, but it doesn't integrate. Using a webapp isn't integration.


You're using integrate in a very loose sense. It does integrate, just not with the base OS. Read this again:

 if I want driving directions home from Google Now, it will open Google maps if it is installed or launch the Google Maps webapp.
 
2013-04-30 05:09:45 PM
"Vintage", in this context, means something different than "obsolete."  It means that, given the circumstances, they may provide service for it.  "Obsolete" just means, "Yeah, don't even ask."
 
2013-04-30 05:34:01 PM

Jim_Callahan: Dear everyone:

"Vintage" is not an adjective, it's a noun.  And it refers, essentially, to a manufacturing batch, originally of wine.

If you want an adjective that means "old", I would like to suggest for your consideration... "old".

Yours sincerely,
J. Callahan

adj.

1. Of or relating to a vintage.2. Characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic.3. Old or outmoded.

Sincerely
J B Bootay
 
2013-04-30 06:15:28 PM

MightyPez: Gecko Gingrich: If it was running anything newer than ios6, then it deliberatly *doesn't* integrate with anything Google (Maps, YouTube, etc). Apple and Google had a falling out.

Kind of sort of not really.

Google's mapping data is not owned exclusively by Google. They license quite a bit of information from third parties. As a result, their licensing agreement forbids them to license the aggregated data to companies that want to use certain features such as turn-by-turn navigation. Apple was way behind Android on having an integrated turn-by-turn navigation solution in iOS, so to compete they had to create their own.

With Google no longer supplying mapping data, they released Google Maps with that functionality built in and it has good integration with other apps. For example, if I want driving directions home from Google Now, it will open Google maps if it is installed or launch the Google Maps webapp.


Actually Apple wanted the turn by turn directions and also wanted google to remove their branding and and location services data mining from the app.  Google said no, that they would provide those features at their priceing and keep their branding, Apple wanted to use all of Googles hard work without paying the devil it's due, and pretend it was an Apple creation.

You contradict yourself by saying googles licensing from third party prevented them from provided other third parties turn by turn, yet google maps on ios does provide turn by turn with the new google app.

Poor spin, they should take your free ipod touch a way.
 
2013-04-30 06:25:32 PM

MightyPez: timujin: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.

But painting every iphone user with a "rabid devotion" brush is clearly the rational stance.


I'm not painting everyone with anything, I didn't say "all iPhone users".  I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion.  Your cross, step down from it.
 
2013-04-30 07:04:08 PM

timujin: MightyPez: timujin: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.

But painting every iphone user with a "rabid devotion" brush is clearly the rational stance.

I'm not painting everyone with anything, I didn't say "all iPhone users".  I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion.  Your cross, step down from it.


You said "ipHone users." You didn't specify a set of them. iphone users would mean people that use iphones. Next time be more clear when you speak.
 
2013-04-30 07:06:59 PM

theflatline: Actually Apple wanted the turn by turn directions and also wanted google to remove their branding and and location services data mining from the app.  Google said no, that they would provide those features at their priceing and keep their branding, Apple wanted to use all of Googles hard work without paying the devil it's due, and pretend it was an Apple creation.

You contradict yourself by saying googles licensing from third party prevented them from provided other third parties turn by turn, yet google maps on ios does provide turn by turn with the new google app.

Poor spin, they should take your free ipod touch a way.


This isn't a state secret. It's spelled out in many searchable articles.

Why doesn't the Google-backed Maps app on iOS 5 do realtime nav? Well, as Ars Technica pointed out in June, it's simply not allowed in the Google API license agreement for Maps. Easy enough for Google to provide the feature to its own operating system (once the underlying map data licensing hurdles were cleared when it turned over from NAVTEQ data to its own geobase in the late 2000s), but third parties? Nope. This was confirmed as a constraint when developers asked the question at WWDC several years ago. No realtime nav, no vector map tiles, no way.
 
2013-04-30 07:09:07 PM

MightyPez: timujin: MightyPez: timujin: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.

But painting every iphone user with a "rabid devotion" brush is clearly the rational stance.

I'm not painting everyone with anything, I didn't say "all iPhone users".  I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion.  Your cross, step down from it.

You said "ipHone users." You didn't specify a set of them. iphone users would mean people that use iphones. Next time be more clear when you speak.


Fark you're a pedantic whiner.
 
2013-04-30 07:16:45 PM

timujin: MightyPez: timujin: MightyPez: timujin: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.

But painting every iphone user with a "rabid devotion" brush is clearly the rational stance.

I'm not painting everyone with anything, I didn't say "all iPhone users".  I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion.  Your cross, step down from it.

You said "ipHone users." You didn't specify a set of them. iphone users would mean people that use iphones. Next time be more clear when you speak.

Fark you're a pedantic whiner.


Is this an example of rationality in discourse?
 
2013-04-30 07:29:15 PM

MightyPez: timujin: MightyPez: timujin: MightyPez: timujin: Some Bass Playing Guy: timujin: I really think iPhone users keep using their phones simply because they don't know any better

If you "really think" that, then you really don't know anything about iPhone users.

I think their rabid devotion to iWhatever isn't rationality based.

But painting every iphone user with a "rabid devotion" brush is clearly the rational stance.

I'm not painting everyone with anything, I didn't say "all iPhone users".  I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion.  Your cross, step down from it.

You said "ipHone users." You didn't specify a set of them. iphone users would mean people that use iphones. Next time be more clear when you speak.

Fark you're a pedantic whiner.

Is this an example of rationality in discourse?


Yes, rationally speaking, you are a whiny pedant.
 
2013-04-30 07:47:20 PM

timujin: Yes, rationally speaking, you are a whiny pedant.


You're so angry. Maybe it's time to step away from the internet?
 
2013-04-30 07:53:39 PM

MightyPez: timujin: Yes, rationally speaking, you are a whiny pedant.

You're so angry. Maybe it's time to step away from the internet?


Who's angry?  Mildly amused and a little disdainful at your childlike tantrum over a perceived slight to iPhone users, but not angry.  And you're not making yourself seem any less of a whiner.
 
2013-04-30 07:57:31 PM

timujin: Who's angry?


The guy breaking out the ad hominems?

Do you often fall back on just launching names at people when you're amused?

Listen, if you had just said, "Sorry, I meant to say the iZealots" or something similar there wouldn't have been a communication breakdown. But doubling down and calling me names feels a tad more "childlike" to me. But who knows? Maybe that's how you communicate with everyone?
 
2013-04-30 08:04:35 PM

MightyPez: timujin: Who's angry?

The guy breaking out the ad hominems?

Do you often fall back on just launching names at people when you're amused?

Listen, if you had just said, "Sorry, I meant to say the iZealots" or something similar there wouldn't have been a communication breakdown. But doubling down and calling me names feels a tad more "childlike" to me. But who knows? Maybe that's how you communicate with everyone?


Nope, just calling it as it is.  You whine, that makes you a whiner.  Calling you out on it doesn't make it an ad hominem.  And you're still whining.

/and I did clarify and write "I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion ", but you chose to continue your pedantry.
 
2013-04-30 08:48:21 PM

timujin: MightyPez: timujin: Who's angry?

The guy breaking out the ad hominems?

Do you often fall back on just launching names at people when you're amused?

Listen, if you had just said, "Sorry, I meant to say the iZealots" or something similar there wouldn't have been a communication breakdown. But doubling down and calling me names feels a tad more "childlike" to me. But who knows? Maybe that's how you communicate with everyone?

Nope, just calling it as it is.  You whine, that makes you a whiner.  Calling you out on it doesn't make it an ad hominem.  And you're still whining.

/and I did clarify and write "I'm speaking of those who have a rabid devotion ", but you chose to continue your pedantry.


Uhhh, your reply here sounds more like whining to me. Whine away.
 
2013-04-30 09:08:20 PM

images.wikia.com

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary:
Apple has done this sort of thing for years, this is neither new nor news.  Old products that they would like to not support that the occasional person demands support for get put in the 'vintage' category.

And WTF is up with the stupid, misleading and outright wrong headlines on FARK today?  Do they even bother to read the articles to see if they have the vaguest connection to the headline anymore?

 
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