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(Sun Sentinel)   George Zimmerman is back in court today to determine whether or not he is going to try and claim his murder of an unarmed teenager was justified   (sun-sentinel.com ) divider line
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2013-04-30 08:18:41 AM  
he's fat now.  so i believe him INNOCENT.  i mean guilty

what kind of innocent man could let himself get so fat in just 2 weeks
 
2013-04-30 08:23:37 AM  
DRINK!
 
2013-04-30 08:38:41 AM  
DRINK!
 
2013-04-30 09:27:55 AM  
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
 
2013-04-30 09:38:34 AM  
Are you saying Martin had no arms?  It sure looks like Martin used his arms and fists in the pictures I've seen.
 
2013-04-30 09:48:22 AM  
I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.

What's going on here again?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-30 09:53:27 AM  

Rev.K: I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.



I think it's a meme from last year.
 
2013-04-30 09:54:20 AM  

HoustonNick: Are you saying Martin had no arms?  It sure looks like Martin used his arms and fists in the pictures I've seen.


Skittles are hard.
 
2013-04-30 10:24:40 AM  
the only T. Martin i know of

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-30 10:59:06 AM  
holy hell. "when did you stop beating your wife?" kind of headline.
 
2013-04-30 11:02:32 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. "when did you stop beating your wife?" kind of headline.


You were expecting Walter Cronkite?
 
2013-04-30 11:03:05 AM  

Rev.K: I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.

What's going on here again?


Unarmed black youth followed by neighborhood watch guy.  (period where nobody knows exactly what happened except the dead kid and his killer).  A fight occurs and Zimmerman shoots the unarmed youth.  Claims self defense.  Charges of 2nd degree murder brought.  Court case pending.

I tried to include only what I know to be objective fact, everyone who has been following it of course has their opinion of the matter.
 
2013-04-30 11:04:20 AM  

Rev.K: I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.

What's going on here again?


Depends on who you ask.

Either:

A)  Failed wannabe cop decided to be a tough guy and shot an unarmed kid who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Also, Skittles are threatening.

B)  Punk kid harassing a upstanding member of neighborhood watch who had no choice but to shoot to defend himself
 
2013-04-30 11:06:43 AM  
Well that's an objective and non-inflammatory headline if I've ever seen one.
 
2013-04-30 11:08:19 AM  
Ah, thanks for bringing me up to speed.

I was drinking last night. Approximately 3/4 of a 12 pack.
 
2013-04-30 11:11:30 AM  

HoustonNick: Are you saying Martin had no arms?  It sure looks like Martin used his arms and fists in the pictures I've seen.


And he had weapons!  I've been told that a determined killer is equally dangerous with any weapon, so havingtea and skittles is like having two guns!  Zimmerman clearly had no alternative.
 
2013-04-30 11:15:07 AM  

Rev.K: I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.

What's going on here again?


This dude named Arthur Zimmermann, who was like the foreign secretary of Imperial Germany during WWI, sent a telegram to Mexico basically saying that if the US enters the war on the side of the Triple Entente, that Germany would support them in an invasion of the southern US with the understanding that Mexico would regain lost territory in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California.

Unbeknownst to Germany, however, the British were intercepting their telegrams and decrypting them.  The British took a while to completely decrypt the message, and then they waited to see if the US would enter the war without it.  When they didn't, the Brits passed the contents of the telegram to the US, and it was made public with some subterfuge about it being stolen (to hide the true source).

There was some debate in the US as to the authenticity of the telegram at first, as isolationism was still strong in the US and some thought it a trick by the British to suck the US into a European war to break the brutal stalemate in the trenches, but that was settled when Arthur Zimmermann, for some extremely stupid reason, publicly admitted to the contents of the telegram.

That set off a shiat-storm of patriotic fervor in the US.  How *DARE* Germany be willing to give up US territory to the Mexicans!  Congress declared war on the Central Powers soon after.

At least, that's my understanding of the Zimmermann affair.
 
2013-04-30 11:23:26 AM  

HoustonNick: Are you saying Martin had no arms?  It sure looks like Martin used his arms and fists in the pictures I've seen.


Well I would too if some over zealous community watch freak tracked me down when I was minding my own farking business and just walking home. How was it that Martin got close enough to Zimmerman to throw a punch? Oh yeah, Zimmerman tracked him down after 911 told him to stay in his farking car.
 
2013-04-30 11:28:00 AM  
I think we're still missing the most important point about this:


How in the fark is that guy 'White'?
 
2013-04-30 11:28:55 AM  

Tatsuma: I think we're still missing the most important point about this:


How in the fark is that guy 'White'?


Lack of being black?
 
2013-04-30 11:31:49 AM  

Tatsuma: I think we're still missing the most important point about this:


How in the fark is that guy 'White'?


White and black are rather vague terms.  If one must be one of the two, I'd say he's white.  If it's a sliding scale, I'd say he's more white than black.

In reality, of course, that's somewhat meaningless.  Black in the USA often implies one of African descent, however there are many other peoples whose skin tone is just as black.
 
2013-04-30 11:32:48 AM  

Tatsuma: I think we're still missing the most important point about this:


How in the fark is that guy 'White'?


He hates black people?
 
2013-04-30 11:34:13 AM  

NightOwl2255: Lack of being black?


So Asians are white too?

nekom: In reality, of course, that's somewhat meaningless. Black in the USA often implies one of African descent, however there are many other peoples whose skin tone is just as black.


Even that is bullshiat, because I don't see South Africans being called 'African-Americans'.

Diogenes: He hates black people?


Does he?
 
2013-04-30 11:36:12 AM  

Tatsuma: I think we're still missing the most important point about this:


How in the fark is that guy 'White'?


That's the most important thing?

I think you're missing something.
 
2013-04-30 11:38:17 AM  

Tatsuma: I don't see South Africans being called 'African-Americans'.


Maybe it's because they're South African.  You know, as in not American.
 
2013-04-30 11:39:17 AM  

Tatsuma: NightOwl2255: Lack of being black?

So Asians are white too?

nekom: In reality, of course, that's somewhat meaningless. Black in the USA often implies one of African descent, however there are many other peoples whose skin tone is just as black.

Even that is bullshiat, because I don't see South Africans being called 'African-Americans'.

Diogenes: He hates black people?

Does he?


Are Asians black? Seriously, if the ethnicities of the world are to be condensed into black or white, wouldn't Asians and a big majority of Hispanics fall into the "white" category, at least moreso than "black"? Again, if we're only talking skin tones here, and we ONLY have black and white to describe that, Asians certainly look different than Europeans, epicanthic eye folds and all that, but their skin tone looks just like mine, as does Zimmerman's.

So if you're asking how is he white, my question is how is he black?
 
2013-04-30 11:40:03 AM  

Tatsuma: Diogenes: He hates black people?

Does he?


That was intended as snark.  But since you ask, there is some evidence to support that, beyond Trayvon.
 
2013-04-30 11:42:26 AM  
Dark, black, concealed male, high on weed and sugar dies from potential burglary gone wrong after assaulting man who defended himself near his home,
/About as accurate
 
2013-04-30 11:49:58 AM  

nekom: Are Asians black? Seriously, if the ethnicities of the world are to be condensed into black or white, wouldn't Asians and a big majority of Hispanics fall into the "white" category, at least moreso than "black"? Again, if we're only talking skin tones here, and we ONLY have black and white to describe that, Asians certainly look different than Europeans, epicanthic eye folds and all that, but their skin tone looks just like mine, as does Zimmerman's.

So if you're asking how is he white, my question is how is he black?


Then we could use things like ethnicity rather than color schemes to describe people, because when people say 'White' they sure as shiat don't think first of Hispanics, Arabs and Jews.
 
2013-04-30 11:55:11 AM  
 
2013-04-30 11:55:53 AM  
And that was a major formatting fail right there.
 
2013-04-30 11:56:10 AM  

Tatsuma: Then we could use things like ethnicity rather than color schemes to describe people


I can imagine the future confusion now:

A: "Hey, man, I've been meaning to ask - are you an Occitan, Alsatian or a Breton? I seriously can't tell!"
B: "Hey, FU, dude. Do I look like an Occitan or Alsatian or a Breton? I'm pure Picard, dude, representin'.
A: "Whatever you say, Jean-Luc."
 
2013-04-30 12:06:06 PM  

Tatsuma: nekom: Are Asians black? Seriously, if the ethnicities of the world are to be condensed into black or white, wouldn't Asians and a big majority of Hispanics fall into the "white" category, at least moreso than "black"? Again, if we're only talking skin tones here, and we ONLY have black and white to describe that, Asians certainly look different than Europeans, epicanthic eye folds and all that, but their skin tone looks just like mine, as does Zimmerman's.

So if you're asking how is he white, my question is how is he black?

Then we could use things like ethnicity rather than color schemes to describe people, because when people say 'White' they sure as shiat don't think first of Hispanics, Arabs and Jews.


Or Chechnyans even.
 
2013-04-30 12:18:08 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. "when did you stop beating your wife?" kind of headline.


Welcome to Fark?
 
2013-04-30 12:44:55 PM  

Banned on the Run: The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. "when did you stop beating your wife?" kind of headline.

Welcome to Fark?


What a stealthy hippo might look like:

i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-30 12:47:18 PM  

Diogenes: He hates black people?


We all do. It's what makes us human.
 
2013-04-30 12:48:39 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Banned on the Run: The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. "when did you stop beating your wife?" kind of headline.

Welcome to Fark?

What a stealthy hippo might look like:

[i159.photobucket.com image 275x200]


i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-30 12:50:58 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. "when did you stop beating your wife?" kind of headline.


and yet, entirely consistent with the facts, even as presented by zimmerman's defense.
 
2013-04-30 12:51:50 PM  
I still think it was those dapper fellows on the grassy knoll
 
2013-04-30 12:52:02 PM  
Come on, he WAS WEARING A HOODIE WHILE BLACK
 
2013-04-30 12:52:25 PM  

nekom: Rev.K: I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.

What's going on here again?

Unarmed black youth followed by neighborhood watch guy.  (period where nobody knows exactly what happened except the dead kid and his killer).  A fight occurs and Zimmerman shoots the unarmed youth.  Claims self defense.  Charges of 2nd degree murder brought.  Court case pending.

I tried to include only what I know to be objective fact, everyone who has been following it of course has their opinion of the matter.


Wow... you actually managed to give the outline of the story without bias. You should probably find a different site to comment on, I'm not sure you'll fit in here.

Also, subby, I give you 1/10 for your trolling headline. And a +1 for you trolling headline.
 
2013-04-30 12:53:36 PM  
Wow, that guy looks like he could be Joe Biden's son. Anybody else notice that?
 
2013-04-30 12:54:32 PM  

NightOwl2255: How in the fark is that guy 'White'?

Lack of being black?


Two things, one is that race is a construct and identification is pretty important.  The other thing is that in places with large Latin American populations -- like most of Florida -- there is an identification of "white Latin" or "white Hispanic".  I . . . won't go more into it than that, right here, but Zimmerman identifies and is identified, in most of Florida, as white.
 
2013-04-30 12:55:39 PM  
Zimmerman has waived his right to a pre-trial immunity hearing (stand your ground).

I guess there isn't any evidence that Trayvon attacked first.
 
2013-04-30 12:56:15 PM  

dittybopper: Rev.K: I'm sorry, I've forgotten the details of this case.

What's going on here again?

This dude named Arthur Zimmermann, who was like the foreign secretary of Imperial Germany during WWI, sent a telegram to Mexico basically saying that if the US enters the war on the side of the Triple Entente, that Germany would support them in an invasion of the southern US with the understanding that Mexico would regain lost territory in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California.

Unbeknownst to Germany, however, the British were intercepting their telegrams and decrypting them.  The British took a while to completely decrypt the message, and then they waited to see if the US would enter the war without it.  When they didn't, the Brits passed the contents of the telegram to the US, and it was made public with some subterfuge about it being stolen (to hide the true source).

There was some debate in the US as to the authenticity of the telegram at first, as isolationism was still strong in the US and some thought it a trick by the British to suck the US into a European war to break the brutal stalemate in the trenches, but that was settled when Arthur Zimmermann, for some extremely stupid reason, publicly admitted to the contents of the telegram.

That set off a shiat-storm of patriotic fervor in the US.  How *DARE* Germany be willing to give up US territory to the Mexicans!  Congress declared war on the Central Powers soon after.

At least, that's my understanding of the Zimmermann affair.


As someone who gradauated with a PoliSci and History degree, I can say this:

iseewhatudidthere

And I lol'd.
 
2013-04-30 12:57:13 PM  
I don't believe in Zimmerman.
 
2013-04-30 12:57:29 PM  

SpectroBoy: Zimmerman has waived his right to a pre-trial immunity hearing (stand your ground).

I guess there isn't any evidence that Trayvon attacked first.


While I generally believe Zimmerman initiated the conversation (based on the dispatch transcripts and Martin's GF's claims), why would Zimmerman have to prove that Martin attacked him first?  He doesn't need to prove anything, he just needs to claim self defense, and the prosecutor has to prove otherwise...
 
2013-04-30 12:57:58 PM  

Rev.K: Ah, thanks for bringing me up to speed.

I was drinking last night. Approximately 3/4 of a 12 pack.


A 75% is a C in most every school, son.
 
2013-04-30 12:58:05 PM  

CrazyCracka420: SpectroBoy: Zimmerman has waived his right to a pre-trial immunity hearing (stand your ground).

I guess there isn't any evidence that Trayvon attacked first.

While I generally believe Zimmerman initiated the conversation confrontation (based on the dispatch transcripts and Martin's GF's claims), why would Zimmerman have to prove that Martin attacked him first?  He doesn't need to prove anything, he just needs to claim self defense, and the prosecutor has to prove otherwise...


FTFM
 
2013-04-30 12:58:05 PM  
My favorite example of stand your ground is when two gangs got into a fight with each other and BOTH SIDES successfully argued stand your ground.

Fark has a Florida tag for a reason.
 
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