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(NBC News)   Ex-gov Mark Sanford says that while getting elected isn't cheap, hiking the Appalacian trail can get even more expensive   (nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com) divider line 45
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2013-04-30 08:04:23 AM  
Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

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2013-04-30 08:27:29 AM  

RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

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I listened to that debate and damn, apparently razor wit and a sharp tongue run in the Colbert family cause she mopped the floor with him
 
2013-04-30 08:55:08 AM  
So Sanford now trails in the polls?  It wasn't that long ago that Sanford poled in the trail.
 
2013-04-30 08:56:06 AM  
"Do you think that President Clinton should be condemned for the rest of his life based on a mistake he made in his life?"

Do you, Governor?

Did Clinton run for another office?

Is adultery against federal law in the same way it against the law in South Carolina?
 
2013-04-30 09:47:59 AM  

RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.


Especially when he's debating a paper cutout of someone he isn't running against.

I don't give a shiat about his affair.  What pisses me off is that he used state money for personal use.  I'm a state employee in SC.  If I did that, my ass would be jobless and facing charges.  He gets to pay it back and now wants us to vote for him?  Screw that shiat.

Oh.. and going into his wife's residence against a court order.  Why isn't he facing jail time for that?  He's a narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him.  The sad part is he's right, they don't seem apply to him.  Please don't vote for this asshole if you live in this district.
 
2013-04-30 09:56:19 AM  
"The Second Amendment isn't there to shoot a duck or a deer," said Sanford. "It's the teeth behind every other right Americans enjoy.

LOL
 
2013-04-30 10:02:56 AM  

labman: RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

Especially when he's debating a paper cutout of someone he isn't running against.

I don't give a shiat about his affair.  What pisses me off is that he used state money for personal use.  I'm a state employee in SC.  If I did that, my ass would be jobless and facing charges.  He gets to pay it back and now wants us to vote for him?  Screw that shiat.

Oh.. and going into his wife's residence against a court order.  Why isn't he facing jail time for that?  He's a narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him.  The sad part is he's right, they don't seem apply to him.  Please don't vote for this asshole if you live in this district.


I like the cut of your jib. I hope more South Carolinians think the same way.
 
2013-04-30 10:03:30 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: "The Second Amendment isn't there to shoot a duck or a deer," said Sanford. "It's the teeth behind every other right Americans enjoy.

LOL


My Facebook feed is choked with right wingers constantly pointing out that if they ever lose any political issues they are going to start killing everyone, because that's what the second amendment wants them to do.  Real Tough Guys, the lot of them.
 
2013-04-30 10:06:46 AM  
"So, in summation, my opponent is a divorced adulterer who misappropriated state funds to visit his mistress in another country, abandoning his post and his responsibilities to the people of this state at the same time. He has repeatedly ignored the terms of a restraining order his wife took out against him. You may disagree with my politics, but you must also agree that my opponent is morally unfit to represent the people of South Carolina."
 
2013-04-30 10:06:49 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: "The Second Amendment isn't there to shoot a duck or a deer," said Sanford. "It's the teeth behind every other right Americans enjoy.

LOL


If that were true, it would have been the FIRST amendment, amirite?
 
2013-04-30 10:09:01 AM  

Hollie Maea: My Facebook feed is choked with right wingers constantly pointing out that if they ever lose any political issues they are going to start killing everyone, because that's what the second amendment wants them to do.  Real Tough Guys, the lot of them.


hilarious.

while this may have been true in 1791, when the army and the populace had the same weapons (the army WAS the populace back then), but i don't think your average guntard with a bushmaster can do a whole lot to defend himself against a hellfire missile fired from a predator drone or the main gun on an abrams tank.
 
2013-04-30 10:11:41 AM  
If Sanford actually loses, I will have a lot more faith in South Carolina than I currently do, which is in the negatives.
 
2013-04-30 10:15:41 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: HotWingConspiracy: "The Second Amendment isn't there to shoot a duck or a deer," said Sanford. "It's the teeth behind every other right Americans enjoy.

LOL

If that were true, it would have been the FIRST amendment, amirite?


At this moment the King, who had been for some time busily writing in his note-book, cackled out `Silence!' and read out from his book, `Rule Forty-two. ALL PERSONS MORE THAN A MILE HIGH TO LEAVE THE COURT.'

Everybody looked at Alice.

`I'M not a mile high,' said Alice.

`You are,' said the King.

`Nearly two miles high,' added the Queen.

`Well, I shan't go, at any rate,' said Alice: `besides, that's not a regular rule: you invented it just now.'

`It's the oldest rule in the book,' said the King.

`Then it ought to be Number One,' said Alice.
 
2013-04-30 10:24:37 AM  

labman: RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

Especially when he's debating a paper cutout of someone he isn't running against.

I don't give a shiat about his affair.  What pisses me off is that he used state money for personal use.  I'm a state employee in SC.  If I did that, my ass would be jobless and facing charges.  He gets to pay it back and now wants us to vote for him?  Screw that shiat.

Oh.. and going into his wife's residence against a court order.  Why isn't he facing jail time for that?  He's a narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him.  The sad part is he's right, they don't seem apply to him.  Please don't vote for this asshole if you live in this district.


While using state funds for his tryst was a terrible thing to do, I think even worse is the fact that he was completely MIA while he was supposed to be governing the state.  You never know when some state emergency is going to occur, whether a natural disaster like a hurricane or a man-made one like a bombing.  At the very least, your staff needs to know where the fark you are.

My parents are in this district.  I've got one planning on voting for Colbert-Busch, but the other is too Fox News-minded to vote against (R).

Even though it should be a piece of cake for Colbert-Busch to win against someone with Sanford's history, it's far from a sure thing.  There's a lot of derp in the area.  If you go into a restaurant, gym, or anywhere else that has TV's on, the default channel is Fox News.
 
2013-04-30 10:30:46 AM  

labman: He's a narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him.


He is chosen by God to lead.  Who are you to disagree with God?

/and that wasn't snark
 
2013-04-30 10:45:43 AM  

NeoCortex42: At the very least, your staff needs to know where the fark you are.


Ah, but you see, his then wife was his chief adviser, and she was still on duty. So, see? Everything was okay.

/seriously, the guy must be one hell of a narcissist
 
2013-04-30 10:46:33 AM  

labman: I don't give a shiat about his affair. What pisses me off is that he used state money for personal use. I'm a state employee in SC. If I did that, my ass would be jobless and facing charges. He gets to pay it back and now wants us to vote for him? Screw that shiat.


The other part that's worthy of mention is he left the state (and the country) with no way to contact him and no one else in charge.  That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

So I mean, have your affair, you're kinda a dick to your wife but politically whatever.  But pay for it on your own dime and you can sneak away from your wife but you gotta at least tell your lieutenant governor if you're gonna leave the country.
 
2013-04-30 10:47:50 AM  
At one point in the debate, ideological stars seemed to be crossed, as
 Colbert Busch compared herself to former Vice President Dick Cheney,
 while Sanford equated his quest for redemption to that of former President Bill Clinton


that troubles me for some reason
 
2013-04-30 10:51:55 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: So Sanford now trails in the polls?  It wasn't that long ago that Sanford poled in the trail.


Should I try the veal.
 
2013-04-30 10:54:42 AM  

labman: RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

Especially when he's debating a paper cutout of someone he isn't running against.

I don't give a shiat about his affair.  What pisses me off is that he used state money for personal use.  I'm a state employee in SC.  If I did that, my ass would be jobless and facing charges.  He gets to pay it back and now wants us to vote for him?  Screw that shiat.

Oh.. and going into his wife's residence against a court order.  Why isn't he facing jail time for that?  He's a narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him.  The sad part is he's right, they don't seem apply to him.  Please don't vote for this asshole if you live in this district.


I know someone that is friends with Sanford, this wa ms basically what told him. The affair is between him and his wife, my problem with him is being out of contact with the state to carry out the affair. Dereliction of duty in my opinion, and people say to give him a second chance? Brings the whole fool me once, fool me twice bit to mind.
 
2013-04-30 10:55:29 AM  

lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.


I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.
 
2013-04-30 11:00:35 AM  
During a question on the sequester and how to slash federal spending Monday, Colbert Busch saw her chance to pounce on Sanford's affair, and leapt at it.
"When we're looking at fiscal responsibility," said Colbert Busch, "it doesn't mean you take the money we saved and leave the country for a personal purpose."
Sanford said he didn't hear Colbert Busch's rebuttal and turned the question back to the sequester.


Sanford has to have known for years that the next time he ran for office, he would get hammered with this question.  And after all that time, his entire response is best summed up as "EARMUFFS!  I didn't hear you.  NANANANANANA! I didn't hear you!"

Do we really need a congressman that, even with so much advance notice, can't even think up a good lie?
 
2013-04-30 11:01:09 AM  

Diogenes: lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.


The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.
 
2013-04-30 11:01:41 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: So Sanford now trails in the polls?  It wasn't that long ago that Sanford poled in the trail.


I lol'd
 
2013-04-30 11:06:02 AM  

lennavan: Diogenes: lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.

The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.


This seems to me evidence of insanity. Even beyond the moral, financial, and safety issues - what sane person does that?
 
2013-04-30 11:07:16 AM  

quickdraw: lennavan: Diogenes: lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.

The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.

This seems to me evidence of insanity. Even beyond the moral, financial, and safety issues - what sane person does that?


One deserving of a seat in Congress, duh.
 
2013-04-30 11:08:52 AM  

lennavan: The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.


True.  But, it didn't stop Cheney ;-)
 
2013-04-30 11:10:18 AM  

quickdraw: lennavan: Diogenes: lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.

The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.

This seems to me evidence of insanity. Even beyond the moral, financial, and safety issues - what sane person does that?



I don't think it's insanity, I think he's just amazingly selfish.  As in - he doesn't think about anyone except himself.  Watch his press conference confession, it's all about him.  It's amazingly hilarious.  His wife standing behind him and he goes on and on about how this other lady is the love of his life but he's going to suck it up, work through it and suffer through life with his current wife.  I mean, she's standing right behind you dude.  He's farking oblivious.  He never once considered other people such as his wife, his kids, the people of his state and so on.
 
2013-04-30 11:15:41 AM  

Diogenes: lennavan: The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.

True.   But, it didn't stop Cheney ;-)


There were a few people who didn't go straight to Cheney.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-26-2007/you-don-t-know-di ck ---safe
 
2013-04-30 11:20:57 AM  

Karac: During a question on the sequester and how to slash federal spending Monday, Colbert Busch saw her chance to pounce on Sanford's affair, and leapt at it.
"When we're looking at fiscal responsibility," said Colbert Busch, "it doesn't mean you take the money we saved and leave the country for a personal purpose."
Sanford said he didn't hear Colbert Busch's rebuttal and turned the question back to the sequester.

Sanford has to have known for years that the next time he ran for office, he would get hammered with this question.  And after all that time, his entire response is best summed up as "EARMUFFS!  I didn't hear you.  NANANANANANA! I didn't hear you!"

Do we really need a congressman that, even with so much advance notice, can't even think up a good lie?


Compare and contrast that with Obama's response to the Bill Ayers issue in the first debate with McCain.  He knew it could raised, was prepared for it and killed it dead with one response.  Also, left no room for his opponent to even follow-up.
 
2013-04-30 11:21:03 AM  

quickdraw: lennavan: Diogenes: lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.

The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.

This seems to me evidence of insanity. Even beyond the moral, financial, and safety issues - what sane person does that?


A man who does his thinking with his dick.  A man who wants to be a congressman.  A man who cheats on his wife, then goes back and asks her to run his next political campaign.  No one has ever made the claim that someone who does any of those things is sane.

OK, so maybe, given how obviously inept Sanford is at running for office without her help the last one doesn't count.
 
2013-04-30 11:26:53 AM  
FTFA: "It's not believable to me that someone gives you a million dollars and not expect something in return," said Sanford

Perhaps someone feels that a million dollars is a fair price to pay for simply preventing you from holding office, Governor.
 
2013-04-30 11:27:23 AM  

RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

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This will never get old, to me.

By the way, Sanford?  I know your polling of Old White Republicans Who Turn Out For Off Year and Special Elections says that hitting Pelosi "is a message that resonates", but seriously.  That poor chicken...

Sanford's fallback, time and again, during Monday's debate was to tie Colbert Busch to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.
 
2013-04-30 11:35:39 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: RexTalionis: Mark Sanford discovers that debates are harder to win when it's not against a paper cutout.

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This will never get old, to me.

By the way, Sanford?  I know your polling of Old White Republicans Who Turn Out For Off Year and Special Elections says that hitting Pelosi "is a message that resonates", but seriously.  That poor chicken...

Sanford's fallback, time and again, during Monday's debate was to tie Colbert Busch to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.


For someone who I assume is against witchcraft, he sure waves Pelosi around like a magic charm.
 
2013-04-30 11:45:17 AM  
Given that he used state funds that says to me that the wife took care of the family money.

I'm shocked!
 
2013-04-30 12:01:43 PM  

2wolves: Given that he used state funds that says to me that the wife took care of the family money.

I'm shocked!


He only married her because of her money.
 
2013-04-30 12:31:12 PM  
I wonder if the Appalacian trail is anywhere near the Appalachian Trail? If they were, that would be strange.
 
2013-04-30 12:40:46 PM  
The sad thing is, Sanford will get AT LEAST 40% of those inbred sister-farkers in South Carolina to vote for him. That's some Family Values for ya. Those cracker rednecks don't give a damn as long as he has an R by his name.
 
2013-04-30 12:54:27 PM  

pkellmey: I wonder if the Appalacian trail is anywhere near the Appalachian Trail? If they were, that would be strange.


Think of it more as a landing strip in Argentina
 
2013-04-30 01:09:04 PM  

Johnny Swank: The sad thing is, Sanford will get AT LEAST 40% of those inbred sister-farkers in South Carolina to vote for him. That's some Family Values for ya. Those cracker rednecks don't give a damn as long as he has an R by his name.


There is a voter turn-out factor here.  Granted he would otherwise get at least 40% but some people might just decide to stay home and fark their sisters on that day.
 
2013-04-30 01:58:21 PM  
A Republican reaches out to a Hispanic and this is the thanks he gets.
 
2013-04-30 02:17:41 PM  

lennavan: quickdraw: lennavan: Diogenes: lennavan: That means if a disaster hit while he was away, people would have been scrambling to find him because he needs to issue the order for various state sources of emergency help and whatnot.

I'm really not disagreeing.  His conduct was unacceptable and there should have been consequences.

But I would hope to hell they have a succession of authority established in cases like that.

The problem arises when you don't know where the person who has authority is.  Succession would work if they knew he was out of the country.  But for all they knew, he was sleeping at home or in the bathroom in the capital building.  You can't just go straight to the lieutenant governor just because Sanford isn't answering the phone right now.

This seems to me evidence of insanity. Even beyond the moral, financial, and safety issues - what sane person does that?

I don't think it's insanity, I think he's just amazingly selfish.  As in - he doesn't think about anyone except himself.  Watch his press conference confession, it's all about him.  It's amazingly hilarious.  His wife standing behind him and he goes on and on about how this other lady is the love of his life but he's going to suck it up, work through it and suffer through life with his current wife.  I mean, she's standing right behind you dude.  He's farking oblivious.  He never once considered other people such as his wife, his kids, the people of his state and so on.


A narcissistic politician?  That's unpossible!
 
2013-04-30 03:00:06 PM  

Johnny Swank: The sad thing is, Sanford will get AT LEAST 40% of those inbred sister-farkers in South Carolina to vote for him. That's some Family Values for ya. Those cracker rednecks don't give a damn as long as he has an R by his name.


The sad thing is, Marion Berry will get AT LEAST 40% of those drug-slinging thugs in Washington DC to vote for him. That's some diversity values for ya. Those attractive and successful African-Americans don't give a damn as long as he has an D by his name.

That's okay to say, right?
 
2013-04-30 06:48:45 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: So Sanford now trails in the polls?  It wasn't that long ago that Sanford poled in the trail.


Marry me!
 
2013-04-30 11:28:14 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: "The Second Amendment isn't there to shoot a duck or a deer," said Sanford. "It's the teeth behind every other right Americans enjoy.

LOL


I love how these are the same people that are all about depriving suspected terrorists of due process, right to legal council, suspension of habeus corpus, view invoking the 5th Amendment as an implicit admission of guilt, support torture, support warrentless wiretaps, think that "the driver didn't want me to search the vehicle" is all any cop should ever need to put you in handcuffs and search your car, etc.  If the sole reason for the 2nd Amendment is protection of the rest, then why are these people so happy to throw away the rest?
 
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