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(Mother Jones)   Republicans will buy greener light bulbs as long as you don't tell them they are good for the environment   (motherjones.com) divider line 23
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2013-04-30 08:31:59 AM
7 votes:
Alright, I'm starting a company called As God Intended and telling them all my green energy products were biblically inspired, they'll eat it right up.

Remember when God said "let there be light?"  He was telling us to harness the Sun's energy with solar panels.  These Return to Eden light bulbs, that will save you money by using less energy? Just inspired by a simpler time.

/who needs Energy Star certification when we have Jesus Christ Super Star certification?
2013-04-30 10:07:11 AM
3 votes:

Tomahawk513: It's a really slippery slope.  One day you're in the hardware store picking out an energy efficient bulb, and a week later you're composting, growing organic vegetables and herbs, recycling meticulously, and driving a hybrid.


I am transitioning to LEDs in the house, because it'll make my light bill cheaper. And we compost... grow organic vegetables and herbs... recycle everything we can... own a Prius... give to NPR and PBS... My God, I'm That Guy.
2013-04-30 08:54:30 AM
3 votes:

cman: Das ist Wahrheit

They wont buy them out of spite.


It's not actually spite if there's no one there to see you do it.  Next time, find someone in the store that you are pretty certain is a lib and let them know that you're NOT buying the recycled paper towels.  Then say "Bounty is the quicker-picker-upper... suck it, lib."
2013-04-30 01:36:53 PM
2 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: I have not tried LEDs yet, maybe they don't lie about how long they last, but based on experience I doubt it.

2013-04-30 10:21:48 AM
2 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: THX 1138: Slaves2Darkness: While an "energy efficient" bulb costs four or five dollars, dims after two years and burns out in three even though it is "guaranteed" for five.

Is there a reason you wouldn't take the manufacturer up on their guarantee then?  Because if what you say is accurate, you could get free bulbs in perpetuity.

But hey, why do that when you could keep buying and replacing incandescents, right?

Yeah, there is I didn't keep the receipt. No receipt no replacement.
Yes I will keep buying and replacing incandescents, because the cost over the life of the bulb is an order of magnitude cheaper, despite what the propaganda says.


Really? You've studied it out and everything?
2013-04-30 09:02:14 AM
2 votes:

THX 1138: This sounds eerily similar to that psych experiment where people were offered the choice of receiving $200 right now or $50 per week for 10 weeks.  And the incandescent crowd is reminiscent of the group that opts for the $200.


Smart choice. With Obama printing all that money, the hyper-inflation will make the money you get 2 weeks from now worthless.
2013-04-30 08:39:15 AM
2 votes:
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2013-04-30 07:56:43 AM
2 votes:

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: DRTFA. But it must be true.

When I drive through rich republican suburbs and see trash in the streets,dead grass from urine and playgrounds in ruins.

Then when I go a through poor urban area the people are picking up litter  and sweeping the sidewalks and the playgrounds are immaculate also flower boxes on each window sill.


Is there some alternate reality where your post relates to the article?
2013-04-30 01:35:50 PM
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: THX 1138: Slaves2Darkness: Have you? or are you just repeating information that you read or heard about, assuming that it is the gospel truth.

You're the one who claimed "the cost over the life of the bulb is an order of magnitude cheaper" for incandescents without any citation whatsoever.

Based on my observation, which I have cited repeatedly I have to replace CFL bulbs every 2-3 years, that significantly increases the costs of CFLs. I have not tried LEDs yet, maybe they don't lie about how long they last, but based on experience I doubt it.


anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence.
2013-04-30 12:11:37 PM
1 votes:
Conservatives would punch themselves in the nuts if they thought it would somehow win a political sports match.
2013-04-30 11:04:58 AM
1 votes:
Are these the same morons who bought Hummers just to "piss off the greens" only to whine like petulant children when gas prices spiked?
2013-04-30 10:49:02 AM
1 votes:

StrikitRich: Typically, Mother Jones leaves out the fact that the light bulbs shoved onto the consumer were produced in China and put US workers, i.e, the Wincester, VA GE plant, out of work during a hard recession.


You're right. Capitalism is bad. The marketplace must be controlled for the good of the people.
2013-04-30 10:28:55 AM
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: I'd give LED a try if I could find one for less then $15 dollars a bulb. As for the CFL's the new rules on disposal are another strike against them as we are no longer supposed to throw them away, because of the mercury inside them. Also if you break one you are supposed bring in a clean up expert that will charge you anywhere from $5-25 thousand dollars. Yeah tell me again how this benefits me.

Green technology will only be adopted when it provides a greater cost/benefit ratio then other technology with the same convenience. I don't switch to green tech for the same reason I don't recycle, it inconveniences and cost me money. Recycling in my town means your waste disposal bill increase by $10 a month and you have to use a special container. Screw that build a single stream recycling plant and just increase my the bill.

Yeah I know a lot of you will consider my attitude appalling, but the reality is you are still in the minority. Although with the crap science and recycling religious non-sense they teach in public schools that probably won't be the case for much longer.


HERE YOU GO
2013-04-30 09:35:21 AM
1 votes:

Chummer45: I think the moral here is that the right has just become a party of trolls.  Liberal folks may sometimes fit the stereotype that they are susceptible to "green" marketing and "organic" bullshiat, even when it ultimately does little to nothing to help the environment (and in some cases is worse).  But at least the intentions are to actually do something good - reduce their environmental impact and reduce the use of pesticides.

Conservatives, on the other hand, are in this reactionary psychology where they'd just as soon throw a newspaper in the garbage rather than recycle it (all things being equal), if for no other reason than recycling is "liberal bullshiat."   What is their underlying goal?  It's just childish spite.

So I'm kind of tired of the false equivalence of "liberals and conservatives are equally stupid."   That doesn't really work when one side is literally taking positions and doing things for no admirable or principled reason, and is simply doing it to troll the other side.  If you look at Washington, this is the big problem with the GOP - it is simply obstructionist and has no real goals other than to make the democrats look bad and oppose things (like background checks, efficiency standards) for no reason other than because it's something democrats like.


The GOP is a party of Captain Planet villains.
2013-04-30 09:31:53 AM
1 votes:
Is it kind of like how they like to troll for men in public bathrooms, so long as you don't tell them that's gay?
2013-04-30 08:58:09 AM
1 votes:
This sounds eerily similar to that psych experiment where people were offered the choice of receiving $200 right now or $50 per week for 10 weeks.  And the incandescent crowd is reminiscent of the group that opts for the $200.
2013-04-30 08:56:43 AM
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: Honestly I understand why you would not recycle, use inefficient light bulbs, and pollute. The "energy efficient" light bulbs are expensive, an incandescent bulb are cheap. While an "energy efficient" bulb costs four or five dollars, dims after two years and burns out in three even though it is "guaranteed" for five.

Those "energy efficient" bulbs are a rip off and no where need as effective as advertised.


I have a few energy efficient bulbs in my apartment that are over four years old now, so I'm getting a kick . . .
2013-04-30 08:49:49 AM
1 votes:

PreMortem: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: DRTFA. But it must be true.

When I drive through rich republican suburbs and see trash in the streets,dead grass from urine and playgrounds in ruins.

Then when I go a through poor urban area the people are picking up litter  and sweeping the sidewalks and the playgrounds are immaculate also flower boxes on each window sill.

You should try reading. Perhaps then you wouldn't come off sounding like a special needs who downed a fifth of Beam.


I have him favorited as "stinks of stupid." Glad to see I nailed it.
2013-04-30 08:43:11 AM
1 votes:

cman: They wont buy them out of spite. I felt the same way for quite some time.


I'd be suspicious that this was just a "look how stupid I am!" troll, but it's you.
2013-04-30 08:41:31 AM
1 votes:
Because they're a-holes?
2013-04-30 08:37:37 AM
1 votes:

WI241TH: Alright, I'm starting a company called As God Intended and telling them all my green energy products were biblically inspired, they'll eat it right up.

Remember when God said "let there be light?"  He was telling us to harness the Sun's energy with solar panels.  These Return to Eden light bulbs, that will save you money by using less energy? Just inspired by a simpler time.

/who needs Energy Star certification when we have Jesus Christ Super Star certification?


Sun worshiping heretic! God was explicitly saying we should build a Dyson Sphere around the earth and pump out all the air.
2013-04-30 07:58:25 AM
1 votes:
So good it posted twice?
2013-04-30 07:39:26 AM
1 votes:

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: DRTFA. But it must be true.

When I drive through rich republican suburbs and see trash in the streets,dead grass from urine and playgrounds in ruins.

Then when I go a through poor urban area the people are picking up litter  and sweeping the sidewalks and the playgrounds are immaculate also flower boxes on each window sill.


You should try reading. Perhaps then you wouldn't come off sounding like a special needs who downed a fifth of Beam.
 
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