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2013-04-30 01:34:35 PM  

Space Station Wagon: ausfahrk: True story:  When I was 12, I was called into the principal's office at school and told that my older cousin had committed suicide.  He was the product of a normal family who attended the Lutheran church in our small town, but he took his life at the end of a two-year slide that started with him renouncing his faith in God, in which he participated in sins and excesses of increasingly disturbing character.  Some of these included smoking marihuana, taking the innocence of his girlfriend, and stealing money from his parents to spend at the gambling parlour.  When he finally killed himself, I actually felt relieved because I knew it was the end of the suffering he'd put us through, even though he was likely headed to damnation.  Upon dissection of the corpse, they found that he had a developmental defect in his brain that caused him to be missing a large portion of his forebrain, and I can only imagine that it was related to the "area of faith" mentioned in the article.

So god made him and then gave him a tumor, which caused him to leave the faith, sin and they kill himself condemning him to eternal damnation.
God is kind of a dick.


God is ALWAYS a dick. But he loves you, and he *needs* your money.
 
2013-04-30 01:40:15 PM  

hej: ModernPrimitive01: so vaccinations cause atheism then?

Yes.
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 333x500]


The organism in that picture is a bacterium, not a virus.
 
2013-04-30 02:00:40 PM  
Oh my f*cking god this moran is  actually in charge of autistic children. Why the hell is he not fired yet?
 
2013-04-30 02:04:56 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: i guess god gave autistic kids a disease so they wouldn't believe in him then?



I just extruded an entire cheese sandwich through my nose, thank you.
 
2013-04-30 02:16:22 PM  

megarian: I liked the link at the bottom of the article with the picture of bridesmaid-butt cheeks.


I did not see that. My apologies. Had I seen I would have labeled "possibly NSFW content on site"
 
2013-04-30 02:26:23 PM  

Carn: AverageAmericanGuy: He has a point. When you remove emotion from the equation and let logic take charge, belief in deities seems weird and incongruent with a universe predicated on examinable physical laws.

But humans are not purely logical creatures. Along with our logical minds, we are burdened with our emotional mind as well. Except in the case of autistic children, of course. They are emotionally crippled, for better or worse. As far as atheism goes, for the better, obviously.

Autistic kids aren't emotionally crippled man.  My nephew is autistic, but he loves his sister and mother and grandparents and uncles, tells jokes (that are amazingly clever and funny for a 6 year old), loves robots, mario and superheroes, and in many ways is pretty much a normal kid.  He's got issues, but he's gotten way better with treatment and a huge part of that has been diet and supplements.  Autism for some may be an almost completely treatable condition.


Yes, but does he BEEEEELIEEEEVE?
 
2013-04-30 02:26:58 PM  

shortymac: I came to the conclusion that we are God's SIMs game that has been ignored for years.


I think he's a programmer trying to do kludges while the program is running.  It's ugly, the documentation is poor and there are hiccups during runtime, but it just barely works.
 
2013-04-30 02:38:56 PM  
Yeah well. I'd rather be autistic than retarded.
 
2013-04-30 02:42:09 PM  

Farking Canuck: ciberido: 8/10 for hitting just the right tone of concern and maintaining it until the end.

Almost everyone is giving this guy high marks but he got almost no bites.

Taking the word troll back to its roots in fishing ... if a guy is trolling and comes home with no fish then he was a failure. No matter how good he looked doing it.

I give him a 2/10.


It depends on how you define a "bite."  If a bite requires that the person responding not know that he's being trolled, then you're right, it was terrible.  But if a "bite" is getting ANY response at all, including replies about the fact that he's trolling, then he got a ton of bites.

I call this approach "meta-trolling": when you get people discussing (or better yet, arguing about) whether or not you were trolling, and that was your original intention, then you're meta-trolling.

/Also, I was really grading him more on style than on effectiveness.
 
2013-04-30 02:43:28 PM  
Can he see the wind? Can he see infrared light? Are television signals visible as they travel over wires?


Yes, yes and yes. Why do you ask? Oh right. Nice trolling.

I live with my mom
 
2013-04-30 02:43:31 PM  
Undead_Elvis 2013-04-30 12:48:39 PM
Aren't all children born atheists? Don't all children require "methods of therapy" in order to be indoctrinated into believing in god?

A baby is born as a god. Experience leads him to conclude that he is not the entire universe.
 
2013-04-30 02:44:13 PM  

stampylives: Ennuipoet: [www.imglols.com image 570x423]

Don't tell the Fundies this, they will be trying to cure atheists like the "cure" teh gheys.

ummmm.... they been trying that for thousands of years.


I guess trying to force people into taking "religion vaccinations" is better than forcing them into iron maidens, so hey, chalk this up as progress.
 
2013-04-30 02:45:44 PM  

ciberido: van1ty: Technically if you haven't considered the question of God then you are by definition an atheist....

i.imgur.com
I wonder if it's possible to be an agnostic and an atheist at the same time?



it's all about recognizing what you believe versus what you know


 i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
hej
2013-04-30 02:48:35 PM  

HortusMatris: hej: ModernPrimitive01: so vaccinations cause atheism then?

Yes.
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 333x500]

The organism in that picture is a bacterium, not a virus.


I shall notify the author immediately.
 
2013-04-30 02:48:56 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Space Station Wagon: ausfahrk: True story:  When I was 12, I was called into the principal's office at school and told that my older cousin had committed suicide.  He was the product of a normal family who attended the Lutheran church in our small town, but he took his life at the end of a two-year slide that started with him renouncing his faith in God, in which he participated in sins and excesses of increasingly disturbing character.  Some of these included smoking marihuana, taking the innocence of his girlfriend, and stealing money from his parents to spend at the gambling parlour.  When he finally killed himself, I actually felt relieved because I knew it was the end of the suffering he'd put us through, even though he was likely headed to damnation.  Upon dissection of the corpse, they found that he had a developmental defect in his brain that caused him to be missing a large portion of his forebrain, and I can only imagine that it was related to the "area of faith" mentioned in the article.

So god made him and then gave him a tumor, which caused him to leave the faith, sin and they kill himself condemning him to eternal damnation.
God is kind of a dick.

God is ALWAYS a dick. But he loves you, and he *needs* your money.



Hey, hey, know, Jesus he knows me!
 
2013-04-30 02:54:20 PM  

gul_jay: ciberido: van1ty: Technically if you haven't considered the question of God then you are by definition an atheist....

[i.imgur.com image 250x250]
I wonder if it's possible to be an agnostic and an atheist at the same time?


it's all about recognizing what you believe versus what you know


 [i.imgur.com image 530x464]

[i.imgur.com image 349x250]


4.bp.blogspot.com
I don't always troll, but when I do, I prefer atheism.
 
2013-04-30 03:11:18 PM  
And you seriously don't want to be around someone with lupus when there's a full moon.
 
2013-04-30 03:30:53 PM  

hej: HortusMatris: hej: ModernPrimitive01: so vaccinations cause atheism then?

Yes.
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 333x500]

The organism in that picture is a bacterium, not a virus.

I shall notify the author immediately.


Very good.  Carry on.
 
2013-04-30 03:42:25 PM  
Surly U. Jest:

ausfahrk: True story:  When I was 12, I was called into the principal's office at school and told that my older cousin had committed suicide.  He was the product of a normal family who attended the Lutheran church in our small town, but he took his life at the end of a two-year slide that started with him renouncing his faith in God, in which he participated in sins and excesses of increasingly disturbing character.  Some of these included smoking marihuana, taking the innocence of his girlfriend, and stealing money from his parents to spend at the gambling parlour.  When he finally killed himself, I actually felt relieved because I knew it was the end of the suffering he'd put us through, even though he was likely headed to damnation.  Upon dissection of the corpse, they found that he had a developmental defect in his brain that caused him to be missing a large portion of his forebrain, and I can only imagine that it was related to the "area of faith" mentioned in the article.

7/10
Nice use of old timey language.


I would have used, "took his girlfriend's maidenhead"
 
2013-04-30 03:58:10 PM  
Alternatively:
Faith is a throwback to early humanity when superstitions were necessary for survival of the group. Therefore, atheists are more highly evolved.
 
2013-04-30 04:00:53 PM  
I think they're confusing being a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog with atheism somehow.
 
2013-04-30 04:14:27 PM  

dustygrimp: neversubmit: Ok I found a study.

Religious Belief Systems of Persons with High Functioning Autism (PDF)


Abstract


The cognitive science of religion is a new field which explains religious belief as emerging from normal cognitive processes such as inferring others' mental states, agency detection and imposing patterns on noise. This paper investigates the proposal that individual differences in belief will reflect cognitive processing styles, with high functioning autism being an extreme style that will predispose towards nonbelief (atheism and agnosticism). This view was supported by content analysis of discussion forums about religion on an autism website (covering 192 unique posters), and by a survey that included 61 persons with HFA. Persons with autistic spectrum disorder were much more likely than those in our neurotypical comparison group to identify as atheist or agnostic, and, if religious, were more likely to construct their own religious belief system. Nonbelief was also higher in those who were attracted to systemizing activities, as measured by the Systemizing Quotient.

Correlation hrmphhrmphhrmph causation, etc.  I could interpret the same data as autism, having been found to affect socialization, causes autistics not to require the social support system that modern religions provide, hence the predisposition for atheism and or agnosticism and the construction of their own religious belief system.


Came here to say this.
 
2013-04-30 04:35:56 PM  

ciberido: stampylives: Ennuipoet: [www.imglols.com image 570x423]

Don't tell the Fundies this, they will be trying to cure atheists like the "cure" teh gheys.

ummmm.... they been trying that for thousands of years.

I guess trying to force people into taking "religion vaccinations" is better than forcing them into iron maidens, so hey, chalk this up as progress.


Iron Maiden?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-30 05:16:27 PM  
AverageAmericanGuy:
Stories like yours gives me a lot of hope. We know that people are lining up at the government's behest to get their kids vaccinated for access to school and summer camps. If autism is indeed treatable, that's one fewer reason to avoid getting the shots.

Obviously not all cases of autism are caused by such things. Most cases are difficult to pin on any single event. But treatments like your nephew is in could be the difference between a life of solitude and one of joy.


Please tell me that I misinterpreted you here... You seem to be able to form coherent written sentences, which should have automatically disqualified you from the three-legged 'AUTISM IS COZ OF SHAWTS" race...

You do know that British pediatrician who suggested the link in the 70s was repeatedly tarred and feathered for opening his yap without doing any kind of actual research, right?

/ First shots at 8 weeks. Neurological development shows autism traits starting ~8-16 weeks
// Correlation != Causation
/// Andrew Wakefield is a farking hack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
 
2013-04-30 05:17:13 PM  

NewWorldDan: Generally, I find that religious people are missing the section of their brain for logic and reason.


This.
 
2013-04-30 05:19:23 PM  
Herp-a-derp... 90s...

D'oh.
 
2013-04-30 05:23:50 PM  

ciberido: van1ty: Technically if you haven't considered the question of God then you are by definition an atheist....

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 250x250]
I wonder if it's possible to be an agnostic and an atheist at the same time?


Oh don't YOU start.
 
2013-04-30 05:27:36 PM  

patchvonbraun: And, for the divide-by-zero moment of the day:

http://autisticsymphony.com/jca.html


That had serious potential as both a satire and a troll, but then they explained the joke at length before telling it.

Undead_Elvis: Aren't all children born atheists?


Apparently, most children are born essentially animist.
 
2013-04-30 05:31:21 PM  

Mach10: Please tell me that I misinterpreted you here... You seem to be able to form coherent written sentences, which should have automatically disqualified you from the three-legged 'AUTISM IS COZ OF SHAWTS" race...


Check the username. AverageAmericanGuy is a long-form troll who specializes in being that guy who should know better and therefore makes you want to slap him.  (It seems like some of his wrong opinions are genuine, but he does such a consistent job it's hard to tell.)
 
2013-04-30 05:42:29 PM  

chrylis: Mach10: Please tell me that I misinterpreted you here... You seem to be able to form coherent written sentences, which should have automatically disqualified you from the three-legged 'AUTISM IS COZ OF SHAWTS" race...

Check the username. AverageAmericanGuy is a long-form troll who specializes in being that guy who should know better and therefore makes you want to slap him.  (It seems like some of his wrong opinions are genuine, but he does such a consistent job it's hard to tell.)


Oh, snap!
I'll give it 8/10 for the face-palm.

Kudos!

/I've got to start paying attention to names >:\
 
2013-04-30 06:13:34 PM  
Mach10:

/I've got to start paying attention to names >:\

Just favorite everyone with a description and a color. I use dark grey for trolls so their text blends in making it easy to skip but it is still legible if you actually want to reed the derp.
 
2013-04-30 06:35:52 PM  

Mach10: chrylis: Mach10: Please tell me that I misinterpreted you here... You seem to be able to form coherent written sentences, which should have automatically disqualified you from the three-legged 'AUTISM IS COZ OF SHAWTS" race...

Check the username. AverageAmericanGuy is a long-form troll who specializes in being that guy who should know better and therefore makes you want to slap him.  (It seems like some of his wrong opinions are genuine, but he does such a consistent job it's hard to tell.)

Oh, snap!
I'll give it 8/10 for the face-palm.

Kudos!

/I've got to start paying attention to names >:\


You mean some of the people who post here aren't trolls.

/unpossible
 
2013-04-30 06:41:01 PM  

neversubmit: Kaya also said that they will turn autistic children into believers through therapy sessions that will be offered freely in therapy centers in the future.

Not just a monster but an honest monster fuuuuuuu


not surprising that the religious have a self serving agenda, to recruit you to someones personal army
/they typically call it charity
 
2013-04-30 06:55:14 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Carn: AverageAmericanGuy: Carn: AverageAmericanGuy: He has a point. When you remove emotion from the equation and let logic take charge, belief in deities seems weird and incongruent with a universe predicated on examinable physical laws.

But humans are not purely logical creatures. Along with our logical minds, we are burdened with our emotional mind as well. Except in the case of autistic children, of course. They are emotionally crippled, for better or worse. As far as atheism goes, for the better, obviously.

Autistic kids aren't emotionally crippled man.  My nephew is autistic, but he loves his sister and mother and grandparents and uncles, tells jokes (that are amazingly clever and funny for a 6 year old), loves robots, mario and superheroes, and in many ways is pretty much a normal kid.  He's got issues, but he's gotten way better with treatment and a huge part of that has been diet and supplements.  Autism for some may be an almost completely treatable condition.

Well, it's a spectrum disease. There are many with mild autism who are likely as not to find salvation in Jesus. And there are those who would not accept the existence of God if their souls depended on it.

I'm glad to hear your nephew is on the mild end of the spectrum.

True and true.  After seeing his transformation I can firmly say that early detection and treatment are very important.  My nephew went from basically non-verbal to "Hi Uncle Carn!  How are you today?!" in a period of months.

Stories like yours gives me a lot of hope. We know that people are lining up at the government's behest to get their kids vaccinated for access to school and summer camps. If autism is indeed treatable, that's one fewer reason to avoid getting the shots.

Obviously not all cases of autism are caused by such things. Most cases are difficult to pin on any single event. But treatments like your nephew is in could be the difference between a life of solitude and one of joy.


0 cases of autism are caused by vaccinations
 
2013-04-30 07:25:26 PM  

ausfahrk: True story:  When I was 12, I was called into the principal's office at school and told that my older cousin had committed suicide.  He was the product of a normal family who attended the Lutheran church in our small town, but he took his life at the end of a two-year slide that started with him renouncing his faith in God, in which he participated in sins and excesses of increasingly disturbing character.  Some of these included smoking marihuana, taking the innocence of his girlfriend, and stealing money from his parents to spend at the gambling parlour.  When he finally killed himself, I actually felt relieved because I knew it was the end of the suffering he'd put us through, even though he was likely headed to damnation.  Upon dissection of the corpse, they found that he had a developmental defect in his brain that caused him to be missing a large portion of his forebrain, and I can only imagine that it was related to the "area of faith" mentioned in the article.


"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
 
2013-04-30 07:33:22 PM  
It may be the case that atheism is related to autism. It certainly is the case that Christianity is related to Down Syndrome.
 
2013-04-30 07:48:36 PM  

gul_jay: ciberido: van1ty: Technically if you haven't considered the question of God then you are by definition an atheist....

[i.imgur.com image 250x250]
I wonder if it's possible to be an agnostic and an atheist at the same time?


it's all about recognizing what you believe versus what you know


 [i.imgur.com image 530x464]

[i.imgur.com image 349x250]


My mother was an atheist and my father was an agnostic. They couldn't agree on what religion not to bring us up in.
 
2013-04-30 07:54:42 PM  

ausfahrk: True story:  When I was 12, I was called into the principal's office at school and told that my older cousin had committed suicide.  He was the product of a normal family who attended the Lutheran church in our small town, but he took his life at the end of a two-year slide that started with him renouncing his faith in God, in which he participated in sins and excesses of increasingly disturbing character.  Some of these included smoking marihuana, taking the innocence of his girlfriend, and stealing money from his parents to spend at the gambling

parlour.  When he finally killed himself, I actually felt relieved because I knew it was the end of the suffering he'd put us through, even though he was likely headed to damnation.  Upon dissection of the corpse, they found that he had a developmental defect in his brain that caused him to be missing a large portion of his forebrain, and I can only imagine that it was related to the "area of faith" mentioned in the article.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-30 07:57:47 PM  
Mother of god, that's retarded.
 
2013-04-30 08:22:14 PM  

alizeran: tetsoushima: [www.epicgifs.net image 720x480]
Achievement Unlocked.

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Ugh, those shoes are facing the opposite direction of the animals.
 
2013-04-30 09:57:26 PM  

traylor: alizeran: tetsoushima: [www.epicgifs.net image 720x480]
Achievement Unlocked.

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If I had some PS skills I would shop toy figures of gods from different religions in place of the toys.


Just label them all "Mohammed".
 
2013-04-30 10:40:58 PM  

Ghastly: ciberido: van1ty: Technically if you haven't considered the question of God then you are by definition an atheist....

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 250x250]
I wonder if it's possible to be an agnostic and an atheist at the same time?

Oh don't YOU start.


Too late.  Ha ha!
 
2013-04-30 10:42:56 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: traylor: alizeran: tetsoushima: [www.epicgifs.net image 720x480]
Achievement Unlocked.

[img198.imageshack.us image 600x419]

If I had some PS skills I would shop toy figures of gods from different religions in place of the toys.

Just label them all "Mohammed".


Then move to Sudan.
 
2013-05-01 01:34:37 AM  

duffblue: Atheism is a logical fallacy.


You don't know what three of five of those words means do you?
 
2013-05-01 08:33:52 AM  
From The Who's "Tommy:"  (Remember Deaf, Dumb and Blind Boy?)
"And Tommy doesn't know what day it is
He doesn't know who Jesus was
Or what praying is...
HOW CAN HE BE SAVED?
FROM THE ETERNAL GRAVE...?"


Well at least he can sure play a mean pinball

/Listen to it, learn it, know it, Youngsters
 
2013-05-01 10:15:09 AM  
Why would God care if someone believed whether he existed or not
 
2013-05-01 06:19:40 PM  

AgentBang: Temple Grandin, a well known and renowned person with autism would like a word...

From her book "Thinking in Pictures"

I develop my views from the existing pool of knowledge and I will adapt my views when I learn more. The only permanent view that I have is that there is a God. My views are based on the basic fundamental laws of nature and physics that I am now aware of. As man learns more about his environment I will change my theory to accommodate the new knowledge. Religion should be dynamic and always advancing, not in a state of stagnation.


I may not agree with her on that particular matter but I am in awe of her life, accomplishments and energy.

She's a force of nature.
 
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