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(Huffington Post)   Ben Shapiro complains about Jason Collins lowering the standards of heroism since Normandy. Difficulty: Ben Shapiro calls conservative political pundits and candidates heroes   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 134
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2013-04-29 06:48:02 PM
Perhaps I'm being a little bit judgemental, but Ben Shapiro seems to be a douche.

He's going that "I'm a douche" face too.

douche.
 
2013-04-29 06:56:38 PM
You know I wouldn't mind all this projection if they at least showed something worth watching, but it's the same tired sucky movie over and over.
 
2013-04-29 07:19:26 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Perhaps I'm being a little bit judgemental, but Ben Shapiro seems to be a douche.

He's going that "I'm a douche" face too.

douche.


This is the guy who accused Chuck Hagel of taking money from "Friends of Hamas"

So, yeah....douche
 
2013-04-29 07:29:23 PM
FTFA: This, of course, sent Twitter scurrying to Shapiro's Twitter feed to find out just what met his definition of heroism...

And that is what I don't understand. You would think people like Shapiro and the National Review would realize it takes mere microseconds to destroy their credibility. A Google search with a partial screenshot and its Q.E.D.
 
2013-04-29 07:58:56 PM
Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large for Breitbart.com,

Breitbart.com has an editor?
 
2013-04-29 08:02:18 PM
Holy crap, there are people still checking to see what the Friends of Hamas guy thinks?!?
 
2013-04-29 08:15:52 PM
If Mark Levin, Adam Carolla, and Ted Cruz are heros ... then this world needs a damn sight many more cowards.
 
2013-04-29 08:16:40 PM

JerseyTim: Holy crap, there are people still checking to see what the Friends of Hamas guy thinks?!?


How many wingnuts actually know that was a farce?  shiat, many of them blamed ACORN for fraudulently securing the election for 0bammy...years after they had ceased to exist.

Not the sharpest pencils in the box, that crowd.
 
2013-04-29 08:20:36 PM
I do enjoy the fact that Ben Shapiro keeps making news for just how wrong and stupid he is. Helps keep the teabagger profile high in the political conscious
 
2013-04-29 08:21:16 PM

Somacandra: You would think people like Shapiro and the National Review would realize it takes mere microseconds to destroy their credibility.


They have no credibility among normal people.

And yet they have an audience.
 
2013-04-29 08:23:00 PM
To be fair, it's pretty brave to be that openly stupid on video in the age of YouTube.
 
2013-04-29 08:25:41 PM
You know who else was a hero?

That's right, Frank Stallone.
 
2013-04-29 08:27:00 PM
Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.
 
2013-04-29 08:27:44 PM
The swing in public acceptance of homosexuality has happened faster than I ever dared to dream. I went to a large public high school - 448 in my graduating class - and there was "a" gay student. Today high school GLBT clubs march in Pride Parades. It's fantastic, and the icing on the cake is that it's happening too fast for the people who opposed it to gradually shift their view and hope nobody notices.
 
2013-04-29 08:29:11 PM
These idiots are like Reverse Ingsoc. They're unwittingly changing the meanings of existing words, like "hero" being changed to mean "liar and asshole", "patriot" to mean "liar and asshole", "conservative" to mean "liar and asshole". Admittedly, they're not creating a huge variety in new definitions...
 
2013-04-29 08:31:34 PM

The Why Not Guy: The swing in public acceptance of homosexuality has happened faster than I ever dared to dream. I went to a large public high school - 448 in my graduating class - and there was "a" gay student. Today high school GLBT clubs march in Pride Parades. It's fantastic, and the icing on the cake is that it's happening too fast for the people who opposed it to gradually shift their view and hope nobody notices.


Yup. I'm digging that the bi, queer, and trans communities aren't being completely left out hanging to dry either, which is what a lot of us worried would happen when gay marriage started taking the stage. It would have been really easy for gay people to have further marginalized the other letters in the alphabet soup, but it's been pretty equitable all around, at least as far as media coverage goes.

/us polyamours/polygamists, though, we're still too fringe
//s'okay, I don't think the average American is ready for that anyway
 
2013-04-29 08:32:54 PM

ultraholland: You know who else was a hero?



www.mydisguises.com
 
2013-04-29 08:34:25 PM
 
2013-04-29 08:34:39 PM

Gyrfalcon: Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.


He's twenty-nine years old so he probably served in Iraq or Afghanistan.
 
2013-04-29 08:43:36 PM
Look, Mass Effect was a good game but I wouldn't call making it an act of Heroism.
 
2013-04-29 08:44:47 PM

jaytkay: Gyrfalcon: Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.

He's twenty-nine years old so he probably served in Iraq or Afghanistan.


lol

I'm going with Chickenhawk
 
2013-04-29 08:46:28 PM

jaytkay: Gyrfalcon: Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.

He's twenty-nine years old so he probably served in Iraq or Afghanistan.


IF he served, it was as a heroic supply clerk at Ft. Dix.
 
2013-04-29 08:53:04 PM

The Why Not Guy: The swing in public acceptance of homosexuality has happened faster than I ever dared to dream. I went to a large public high school - 448 in my graduating class - and there was "a" gay student. Today high school GLBT clubs march in Pride Parades. It's fantastic, and the icing on the cake is that it's happening too fast for the people who opposed it to gradually shift their view and hope nobody notices.


We "just don't care" now.   We don't want to hear anything about anybody being gay.  It's very important that no one publicly announce their sexual orientation because we don't care about that anymore.

God!  Why won't you libs stop talking about the existence of gay people and all that gay sex that they do?  It's pretty obvious that you libs are the REAL homophobes.
 
2013-04-29 08:58:23 PM
wonkette.com
 
2013-04-29 09:00:41 PM
Isn't Shapiro the asshole that calls everyone who disagrees with him an anti-semite?
 
2013-04-29 09:03:04 PM

The Why Not Guy: The swing in public acceptance of homosexuality has happened faster than I ever dared to dream. I went to a large public high school - 448 in my graduating class - and there was "a" gay student. Today high school GLBT clubs march in Pride Parades. It's fantastic, and the icing on the cake is that it's happening too fast for the people who opposed it to gradually shift their view and hope nobody notices.


Agreed. I think the biggest sign for me of that shift came from how little I was flamed on Facebook for coming out, even though a decent number of people on my friend's list are people from my hardcore religious right childhood. I mean, when even people who are friends with a number of who's who in the religious right leadership can't be bothered to even say that I'm sinning, that shows how fast things have swung.
 
2013-04-29 09:07:27 PM

Sensual Tyrannosaurus: Isn't Shapiro the asshole that calls everyone who disagrees with him an anti-semite?


Oh my god, Ben Shapiro is on Fark?!
 
2013-04-29 09:11:35 PM

Gyrfalcon: jaytkay: Gyrfalcon: Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.

He's twenty-nine years old so he probably served in Iraq or Afghanistan.

IF he served, it was as a heroic supply clerk at Ft. Dix.


According to Wiki, he was law student who wrote editorials for the student newspaper calling for increased surveillance of Muslim students.

/Also Zapp Rosdower's catamite.
 
2013-04-29 09:12:35 PM
my only complaint about the Collins coverage is hearing his coming out compared to Jackie Robinson. Taking nothing away from Collins but Robinson had it much worse
 
2013-04-29 09:14:12 PM
Doing something risky that no one has ever dared to do before, because you think it is right and will help others isn't heroic or courageous.

Doing what MANY people have done for ages, with a lot of money and a safe backing involved is the very definition of "heroic."  Anything less than "extremely mainstream" is more like "hey I'm a flake!" than "hey I'm taking a risk here!"

Right?
 
2013-04-29 09:14:37 PM

Sgt Otter: /Also Zapp Rosdower's catamite.


"I wonder if there's beer on the sun."
 
2013-04-29 09:16:09 PM

Waldo Pepper: my only complaint about the Collins coverage is hearing his coming out compared to Jackie Robinson. Taking nothing away from Collins but Robinson had it much worse


True, but there really is nothing else you could compare it to.
 
2013-04-29 09:16:44 PM
Oh FFS. What Collins did took balls and I don't know a farking thing about the dude but I'm glad that he's finally able to be open about his natural wiring. Is he a hero? No. He came out for his own peace of mind. Can he be a role model for kids struggling with their identity as proof that there's life after coming out? Absolutely. Let's stop throwing the word "hero" around and also let's stop using the fact that the word "hero" is being very loosely used here as a convenient excuse to bash a gay guy.

fark you all. That's it.

/the royal you
 
2013-04-29 09:18:24 PM

skullkrusher: Let's stop throwing the word "hero"


If we can't use the word "hero" for someone who did something that nobody else had the courage to do, what CAN we use it for?
 
2013-04-29 09:20:05 PM
i41.tinypic.com

Hes not a hero because he's gay, he's a hero because he has the courage to stand up and publicly admit it, knowing douchebags like Ben Shapiro will do everything they can to ruin his career, reputation and life. DIAF Ben Shapiro, and take all the other homophobic douches in this country with you.
 
2013-04-29 09:23:59 PM

Sgt Otter: Gyrfalcon: jaytkay: Gyrfalcon: Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.

He's twenty-nine years old so he probably served in Iraq or Afghanistan.

IF he served, it was as a heroic supply clerk at Ft. Dix.

According to Wiki, he was law student who wrote editorials for the student newspaper calling for increased surveillance of Muslim students.

/Also Zapp Rosdower's catamite.




He's just angry that Larry Csonka never wrote back.
 
2013-04-29 09:25:58 PM

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Let's stop throwing the word "hero"

If we can't use the word "hero" for someone who did something that nobody else had the courage to do, what CAN we use it for?


a person who sacrifices himself for others. Runs into a burning building. Cool kid pretending to be gay to take the heat of the bullied gay kid. Not a guy who comes to terms with himself and comes out for his own sanity. It takes courage and it is nice to see someone relieve himself of that burden but I don't find it heroic.
 
2013-04-29 09:31:22 PM

skullkrusher: Oh FFS. What Collins did took balls and I don't know a farking thing about the dude but I'm glad that he's finally able to be open about his natural wiring. Is he a hero? No. He came out for his own peace of mind. Can he be a role model for kids struggling with their identity as proof that there's life after coming out? Absolutely. Let's stop throwing the word "hero" around and also let's stop using the fact that the word "hero" is being very loosely used here as a convenient excuse to bash a gay guy.

fark you all. That's it.

/the royal you


Fark you too!

25.media.tumblr.com

/Want some pancakes?
 
2013-04-29 09:41:09 PM

skullkrusher: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Let's stop throwing the word "hero"

If we can't use the word "hero" for someone who did something that nobody else had the courage to do, what CAN we use it for?

a person who sacrifices himself for others. Runs into a burning building. Cool kid pretending to be gay to take the heat of the bullied gay kid. Not a guy who comes to terms with himself and comes out for his own sanity. It takes courage and it is nice to see someone relieve himself of that burden but I don't find it heroic.


Unfortunately for you the English language once again disagrees with your opinion.
 
2013-04-29 09:41:43 PM

skullkrusher: a person who sacrifices himself for others. Runs into a burning building. Cool kid pretending to be gay to take the heat of the bullied gay kid. Not a guy who comes to terms with himself and comes out for his own sanity. It takes courage and it is nice to see someone relieve himself of that burden but I don't find it heroic.


If it saves one gay teenage basketball player from killing him or herself - he is a hero.  Period.
 
2013-04-29 09:42:01 PM

Sgt Otter: Gyrfalcon: jaytkay: Gyrfalcon: Put this guy in a time machine and send him back to Omaha Beach.

He's twenty-nine years old so he probably served in Iraq or Afghanistan.

IF he served, it was as a heroic supply clerk at Ft. Dix.

According to Wiki, he was law student who wrote editorials for the student newspaper calling for increased surveillance of Muslim students.

/Also Zapp Rosdower's catamite.


Your color is orange, and your note is "Zapp Rosdower's Catamite." Thank you for giving me such a wonderful phrase
 
2013-04-29 09:43:56 PM
The real heroes are pocket-sized, straight conservative pundits who dare to remain resolute in their courage to speak the truth that you poop from there, thus icky.
 
2013-04-29 09:44:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Let's stop throwing the word "hero"

If we can't use the word "hero" for someone who did something that nobody else had the courage to do, what CAN we use it for?

a person who sacrifices himself for others. Runs into a burning building. Cool kid pretending to be gay to take the heat of the bullied gay kid. Not a guy who comes to terms with himself and comes out for his own sanity. It takes courage and it is nice to see someone relieve himself of that burden but I don't find it heroic.

Unfortunately for you the English language once again disagrees with your opinion.


actually this time you're right for a change. However, I think the word "hero" should be reserved for those who put themselves out to help others.
So, yes, I disagree with the willy-nilly use of the word in that I find the connotation important.
 
2013-04-29 09:45:37 PM

gingerjet: skullkrusher: a person who sacrifices himself for others. Runs into a burning building. Cool kid pretending to be gay to take the heat of the bullied gay kid. Not a guy who comes to terms with himself and comes out for his own sanity. It takes courage and it is nice to see someone relieve himself of that burden but I don't find it heroic.

If it saves one gay teenage basketball player from killing him or herself - he is a hero.  Period.


not gonna get hung up on it - as I said, he can absolutely be a role model for kids who are struggling. I think the word should be reserved for a certain set of circumstances. That's all.
 
2013-04-29 09:48:46 PM

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Let's stop throwing the word "hero"

If we can't use the word "hero" for someone who did something that nobody else had the courage to do, what CAN we use it for?

 
2013-04-29 09:59:05 PM

skullkrusher: However, I think the word "hero" should be reserved for those who put themselves out to help others.


And this is not that...how?
 
2013-04-29 10:01:45 PM

skullkrusher: So, yes, I disagree with the willy-nilly use of the word in that I find the connotation important.


I think your bigger problem is with Shapiro; a hypocritical douche, who should have his nuts stomped into paste, by hobos.
 
2013-04-29 10:01:57 PM

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: However, I think the word "hero" should be reserved for those who put themselves out to help others.

And this is not that...how?


It is that...don't waste your time.
 
2013-04-29 10:04:53 PM

Sgt Otter: /Also Zapp Rosdower's catamite.


I laughed at that far more than I should have.
 
2013-04-29 10:05:54 PM

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: However, I think the word "hero" should be reserved for those who put themselves out to help others.

And this is not that...how?


Did you read the SI article? Where did you get from that that he was coming out to make it easier for kids struggling with their identity?
The whole thing was about him coming out for himself. Understandable and happy for him but that's the point.
 
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