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(The Atlantic)   The newest Lifetime program you'll accidentally tune in to mistaking it for porn: Preachers' Daughters   (theatlantic.com) divider line 36
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2013-04-29 10:27:13 PM  
Nothing magnifies daddy issues like The Holy Father.
 
2013-04-29 10:55:09 PM  
Some of those sisters are half sisters and their names don't pass the stripper name test.
 
2013-04-29 11:21:07 PM  
She runs this by her dad, Nikita, a former professional wrestler turned preacher over a "daddy-and-daughter lunch." Nikita with his shaved head and bulging muscles explains he doesn't think there is any need for Kolby to "experience" dating.

Whenever I meet a girl with an overbearing father/brother who disapproves of them dating, I can't help but think that the father/brother is secretly jealous and has incestuous sexual lust toward the girl. Creeps me out.
 
2013-04-29 11:24:18 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Whenever I meet a girl with an overbearing father/brother who disapproves of them dating, I can't help but think that the father/brother is secretly jealous and has incestuous sexual lust toward the girl. Creeps me out.


Think that says more about you and your fantasies than the overbearing dads though, doesn't it?
 
2013-04-29 11:24:45 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: She runs this by her dad, Nikita, a former professional wrestler turned preacher over a "daddy-and-daughter lunch." Nikita with his shaved head and bulging muscles explains he doesn't think there is any need for Kolby to "experience" dating.

Whenever I meet a girl with an overbearing father/brother who disapproves of them dating, I can't help but think that the father/brother is secretly jealous and has incestuous sexual lust toward the girl. Creeps me out.


Maybe he needs to take her to a Father/Daughter purity dance.  He could buy her a nice, new, low-cut prom dress for the event.

/always felt those things were incestuous.
 
2013-04-29 11:45:46 PM  

gadian: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Whenever I meet a girl with an overbearing father/brother who disapproves of them dating, I can't help but think that the father/brother is secretly jealous and has incestuous sexual lust toward the girl. Creeps me out.

Think that says more about you and your fantasies than the overbearing dads though, doesn't it?


No? What would it "say about me", other than I think that seemingly jealous dads/brothers are creepy?
 
2013-04-29 11:57:10 PM  
Um no. I wouldn't tune into anything on Lifetime. I'm unaware of anything even remotely watchable on that channel.
 
2013-04-29 11:59:46 PM  
Nikolai Volkoff was so much better than Nikita Koloff.
 
2013-04-29 11:59:52 PM  
Married a preacher's daughter.

When you find a girl who'll both watch porn with you and then say stuff like "huh never seen that before, looks painful, do that to me", marry her.
 
2013-04-30 12:02:46 AM  

frostus: Um no. I wouldn't tune into anything on Lifetime. I'm unaware of anything even remotely watchable on that channel.


Yeah, I'd wait until they pull out all the stops for Preachers' Daughters 3: Technical Virgins.
 
2013-04-30 12:22:42 AM  
It's only NOT porn if you don't masturbate to it.
 
2013-04-30 12:26:15 AM  

frostus: Um no. I wouldn't tune into anything on Lifetime. I'm unaware of anything even remotely watchable on that channel.


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2013-04-30 12:31:43 AM  

frostus: Um no. I wouldn't tune into anything on Lifetime. I'm unaware of anything even remotely watchable on that channel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUmxZGI6isk

Thankfully youtube has the best parts available
 
2013-04-30 12:46:16 AM  
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I'm untouchable, biatch.
 
2013-04-30 01:02:38 AM  

Outshined_One: frostus: Um no. I wouldn't tune into anything on Lifetime. I'm unaware of anything even remotely watchable on that channel.

Hallo designers!!!!!  Halp me shop for my vardrobe!


Yeah, no. My wife does DVR and watch the runway show but after I leave for work.

AiryAnne: Thankfully youtube has the best parts available


This one my wife doesn't even watch and she usually likes Jennifer Love Hewitt. She even watched that Ghost Whisperer show.
 
2013-04-30 01:02:40 AM  
Well, I dunno if this is going to work or not, but what we tell our daughter over and over when the subject comes up, is that you should not mistake trading orgasms for true intimacy, for true love.  That the spiritual side of bonding with someone for a lifetime is the more important part of it. That you should be really, REALLY sure,and not just hopeful or wishful, that this guy is "the one", and he's doing the right things to prove himself, not just talking shiat to get into your pants... That you shouldn't be in a hurry, and you should be picky,  when it comes to finding the person to share forever with. That having a baby doesn't make a man fall in love with you, and that having a child is not the only way to have someone to love you.  It starts with respecting and loving yourself, planning your own future, having self-respect because you are so very special.

We talk about girls in third world countries, and how few choices they have in life unless they extend their education, and how, the smarter they get, the more they decide on their own, to control their body and their own destinies.

Look, we could do it like my grandparents used to: we could just scare the crap out of the kids with accidental pregnancies, STD's, and ruined reputations, along with the wrath of an unforgiving God who sees all the dirty things you do and think and condemns you to hellfire.

But external threats and coercion do as much harm as they do "good", making people neurotic about their bodies and their natural inclinations, warping their ability to love and be loved.  I don't believe God is unforgiving; everything I know about my religion tells me God loves every one of us and wants to forgive us when we stray from the path. That he doesn't judge us for what we daydream, but what we act on.  To relinquish command of yourself to "pleasures of the flesh", as they called it, is to give up your personal, responsible control of your destiny to base desires and the passing wants of others who don't have your best interests at heart, who merely want to use you.  I believe we are meant to perfect ourselves and make ourselves worthy of each other, for the time when we find that missing half of ourselves: the one we settle down with and live with until we die, the one we can't live without.


I think that only by having strict but consistent and fair rules, backed by education, and forging an understanding of the stakes, do you teach a young girl how to take charge of becoming a woman on her own terms, and why she's worth the effort. Frankly, it's the same for raising young men, except that the stakes for women are higher,  because they bear the kids and the added burdens.

If we can get them to keep a clear head in the face of their temptations and experimentations, I have faith that they can make the right choices on their own, but you have to give a strong foundation, not of pure authority alone, but one based on reasoning and self-respect.

This is why I think many of these preacher dads and their creepy virginity cults are focusing too narrowly on the rules, without explaining what's important about them and why we have them. They teach abstinence without any birth control or real sex education, which is crazy IMO. They are all concerned about hymens and bastard children, instead of teaching a girl to have knowledge, self-respect and a sense of personal destiny and responsibility first.

Like a variation of the madonna-whore complex, these puritan dads want to keep their daughters as sexless, guileless toddlers until they get handed over to a spouse on the wedding day with a "well, happy unboxing day, hope it all works out for you, BTW, now you can get your freak on, though you're not supposed to know how ".


And they wonder why the kids have teen pregnancies.
 
2013-04-30 01:12:02 AM  

the opposite of charity is justice: Married a preacher's daughter.

When you find a girl who'll both watch porn with you and then say stuff like "huh never seen that before, looks painful, do that to me", marry her.


Dated a preacher's daughter in high school. Never got any farther than 2nd base :(

Though I looked her up on Facebook recently and she got fat. I mean REALLY fat. Guess I dodged a bullet there.
 
2013-04-30 01:15:58 AM  
The part of it I find so disgusting is how they teach these girls that their entire value as a human being is defined by them remaining virgins until marriage. That their pussy, and making babies, is the only thing they're good for. Any woman who would subject herself to that must have a seriously low self-esteem. Which can be fun for a few months, but ultimately there's only so many ways you can debase someone before it just gets old. Plus, there's the whole religious thing to put up with. And that's simply far too much ignorance and arrogance to put up with, no matter how eager she is to get peed on.
 
2013-04-30 01:18:21 AM  
I know one preacher's daughter who had a secret crush on me.. but she was 12 at the time, I was twice her age.  Now she's grown up, working as a schoolteacher, and married to a guy with the same first name as me.. and I'm still single.
 
2013-04-30 01:25:30 AM  
Lecter, I think you have it about right.   Where does this come from? I think it's a distorted cultural echo of our desert-wandering ancestors.  Their patriarchal culture was focused on defining strict paternity, from which you inherited and passed on your lands and wealth. Women were part of that property and the channel for extending the father's line, so, women were highly restricted and sequestered, so the father's line would not be contaminated by another.  In that kind of culture, women can be loved and cared for, but more as pets, as things, than as people in their own right.  Flash forward two thousand years to people that  fixate on the Old testament without reference to the culture and time in which it was lived. And they pick and choose how they now interpret and follow these rules. You get a modern harem culture, where daddy owns all the women until he decides who gets married off to whom. To let a girl get pregnant out of wedlock under that culture is a deadly source of shame, indeed, you still see "honor killings' in other countries over this kind of thing. It means daddy is not the king and he can't control his kingdom.

I'd rather my daughter already know she's a Queen and in charge of herself, than to be some kind of harem slave.
 
2013-04-30 01:27:12 AM  

Alphax: I know one preacher's daughter who had a secret crush on me.. but she was 12 at the time, I was twice her age.  Now she's grown up, working as a schoolteacher, and married to a guy with the same first name as me.. and I'm still single.


You're 36 and single?

Know that feel bro... foreveralone.jpg
 
2013-04-30 01:43:58 AM  
When our daughter got to "that age" we always told her that her choices were her own but here's the consequences of certain things - like an unexpected pregnancy, stuck with an asshole boyfriend, etc, We did have to suffer through a couple boyfriends that we didn't care for but the good thing is after a little while she would also realize they were dipshiats and dump them. We were careful to give our opinion of them but not forbid her from seeing them like I've seen some parents do. Ultimatums never seem to work from what I've seen (including when I was growing up). Now my daughter is married to a great guy and they have three kids. No huge dramas in her upbringing and no big disasters that we regret. My wife and I stumbled through parenting and somehow got something right.
 
2013-04-30 02:54:34 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Alphax: I know one preacher's daughter who had a secret crush on me.. but she was 12 at the time, I was twice her age.  Now she's grown up, working as a schoolteacher, and married to a guy with the same first name as me.. and I'm still single.

You're 36 and single?

Know that feel bro... foreveralone.jpg


I'm 42.  She's about 28 now.
 
2013-04-30 03:16:28 AM  
The thing with holy books is that their pronouncements have to reflect society, or at least, a large chunk of society.  Religion shouldn't really be adapting. It's the Word of God, allegedly, but it does.

I'm convinced a lot of religious stuff was basically good advice that got mixed in. And in 1850, no sex before marriage for girls was a good idea. No contraception, no welfare system. At the same time, people married much younger. They might have been virgin brides, but they were more often brides at 18-20.

You can't say to a 16 year old that she isn't going to date. You can either say that she can date, or that she needs to bring a suitor round, chaperone her, in preparation for marriage soon. What you can't do is to deny her sexual desires, or suppress them for long.
 
2013-04-30 03:41:20 AM  

farkeruk: You can't say to a 16 year old that she isn't going to date.


Depending on the person, you can if you make her afraid that everyone in the world and God will shun her for even thinking about it. I mean, you'd be an ass if you did that, but it's possible. Children -- particularly children in families like these -- don't have enough information about the outside world to know no one else cares, and even if they did, they don't have the legal authority to seek out a more supportive social group.
 
2013-04-30 04:12:31 AM  
Too bad it's not a reality show. We're being denied the eventual reveal of one "daughter's" meth bust, one "daughter's" multi-year relationship with a Croatian basketball player and the other two being cast based on their performances in "Anal Dumpsters XII: Paying the Landscaping Crew"
 
2013-04-30 04:18:03 AM  
(opens the link)  That sounds train-wrecky.
 
2013-04-30 04:51:53 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Too bad it's not a reality show. We're being denied the eventual reveal of one "daughter's" meth bust, one "daughter's" multi-year relationship with a Croatian basketball player and the other two being cast based on their performances in "Anal Dumpsters XII: Paying the Landscaping Crew"


I'm sure Axel Braun has already completed a script for a parody.
 
2013-04-30 07:21:04 AM  
I knew a preachers daughter when I was a young adult. Quite the starfish. You'd think the PD would be a bit kinky, but I'm told lots of "party girls" that are so sexy at the party are nothing in bed, it's like "if you're screwing me it's gotta be good".
 
2013-04-30 07:49:04 AM  
Whores? In my reality TV?
 
2013-04-30 08:03:23 AM  
I was a born again for 12 years, and I can tell you that this is child abuse, both to girls and boys. There was less (but still substantial) emphasis placed on boys retaining our virginity, but what was drilled into our skull was that any girl we'd ever meet would be eternally, inextricably, psychologically bound to whoever took her virginity. She'd always love him more than us. Unless we could find a virgin, we would never be special to anyone. It was so damning and absolutist that it took me years to get over it, even after I became an atheist. Even to this day I retain a fetish for taking women out of their comfort zones and getting them to do something they've never done before, which undoubtedly goes back to the church thing.
 
2013-04-30 08:06:52 AM  
The other thing we do is, my wife and I work at giving my daughter an example of what to look for in a man by how we live each day.  The kids DO watch you, more than listen to you.  So my daughter sees that I'm a husband that is attentive to my partner, respectful. I model the behaviors she should seek in her own partner.

  We argue, often, but it's civil and logical, even in an argument, we respect each other, we don't fight. I'm NEVER violent to her, would never strike her, ever.  I look for things to do for her, and she surprises me with little gestures. We're visibly intimate all the time in little ways: back rubs, foot rubs, kisses to welcome each other, kisses when we leave, how we eat together, take walks, go to local events. We say "I love you" daily.  These are simple things, but you would be surprised how powerful this simple example can be.
 
2013-04-30 11:32:33 AM  

Tommy Moo: I was a born again for 12 years, and I can tell you that this is child abuse, both to girls and boys. There was less (but still substantial) emphasis placed on boys retaining our virginity, but what was drilled into our skull was that any girl we'd ever meet would be eternally, inextricably, psychologically bound to whoever took her virginity. She'd always love him more than us. Unless we could find a virgin, we would never be special to anyone. It was so damning and absolutist that it took me years to get over it, even after I became an atheist. Even to this day I retain a fetish for taking women out of their comfort zones and getting them to do something they've never done before, which undoubtedly goes back to the church thing.


^ Everything right there. ^

I was so fundamentally screwed (see what I did there?) by the Southern Baptist religion and upbringing that I'm *still* working on having wholesome relationships and self confidence at 34.   That said, I've been with some pretty damn kinky PKs since leaving for college at 18.

And it's no wonder they are so homophobic, with all that inner repressed homosexual attraction going on.
 
2013-04-30 11:46:46 AM  

dj_spanmaster: Tommy Moo: I was a born again for 12 years, and I can tell you that this is child abuse, both to girls and boys. There was less (but still substantial) emphasis placed on boys retaining our virginity, but what was drilled into our skull was that any girl we'd ever meet would be eternally, inextricably, psychologically bound to whoever took her virginity. She'd always love him more than us. Unless we could find a virgin, we would never be special to anyone. It was so damning and absolutist that it took me years to get over it, even after I became an atheist. Even to this day I retain a fetish for taking women out of their comfort zones and getting them to do something they've never done before, which undoubtedly goes back to the church thing.

^ Everything right there. ^

I was so fundamentally screwed (see what I did there?) by the Southern Baptist religion and upbringing that I'm *still* working on having wholesome relationships and self confidence at 34.   That said, I've been with some pretty damn kinky PKs since leaving for college at 18.

And it's no wonder they are so homophobic, with all that inner repressed homosexual attraction going on.


Cheers to you on getting on the right path. I personally found this site to be a great resource, including the forums, when I was trying to start dating in my 20s:

http://new.exchristian.net/
 
2013-04-30 02:41:29 PM  
Freakiest, nastiest, kinkiest sex I've ever had was at a Bible Camp. Those boys were just plain freaks, anal, oral, DP, trains, you name those boys did it for Jesus.
 
2013-04-30 03:22:51 PM  
Oooo another "men suck" movie (or what ever) color me surprised.
 
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