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(NBC Miami)   Carnival seeks dismissal of Triumph lawsuits on the grounds that the passengers bought their tickets, knew what they were getting into   (nbcmiami.com) divider line 92
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2013-04-29 09:19:30 PM

just_intonation: Carnival should settle those claims as quickly as possible with a smile and an apology.

vudutek: If nothing else, I hope the visible hand of the free market gives Carnival a much needed smackdown.

If not, then this.

Either way, I've decided that my SO and I will *never* cruise on Carnival, no matter what the outcome.  Too many bad experiences by family and friends related to me to want to take a chance on it, at least with *my* money.


Strictly Carnival, or all of their subsidiaries as well? Because there are a few...
 
2013-04-29 09:29:46 PM

namatad: maddogdelta: meanmutton: What more do people want?

Ships with crews that know how to operate and maintain a seaworthy vessel?

this is why you only sail on newer ships. first couple years.
TADA
Less of a chance of engine fires. Less of a chance of old drunk captain on list last voyage.
Newer tech than 10 or 20 years ago.


Ha-rumph... yes.
i2.mirror.co.uk
 
2013-04-29 10:01:30 PM

SordidEuphemism: Bslim: It'll be just like that time over Macho Grande.

I'll never get over Macho Grande.


Those wounds run... pretty deep.
 
2013-04-29 10:02:51 PM

Barfmaker: scottydoesntknow: vudutek: If nothing else, I hope the visible hand of the free market gives Carnival a much needed smackdown.

That's what I'm thinking. This lawsuit won't float, so the only way to hurt them is by not purchasing tickets and telling everyone else you know to not purchase tickets.

At least settling a lawsuit will let future passengers know that if the company farks up bad and you suffer for it, they'll pay you in the end. If this gets dismissed, all it's saying is that you're taking ALL of the risk when sailing with Carnival.

Yeah and then they'll knock 5 bucks off their ticket price and fill the ship up no problem at all.

Oh, and this:

[img811.imageshack.us image 500x293]


My parents are trying to talk the wife, daughter, and me into a Carnival cruise at the end of this year.  "The tickets are only $250 a person now for a 7 day cruise!".
 
2013-04-29 10:04:51 PM

T-Servo: [www.culturedviews.com image 250x174]
The only reason to go on a cruise is to pick up fatties.

/not literally, of course


Normally I don't sympathize with PETA...but that poor, sad donkey...
 
2013-04-29 10:05:58 PM

buckler: freewill: oukewldave: What are they complaining about?  They got like 3 extra days of cruising for free!

Plus camping, which is nice.

Hard to dig a cathole in those hard, hard decks, though.


That's what the poop deck is for, duh.
 
2013-04-29 10:08:11 PM

grimlock1972: Would not set foot on a cruise if the paid me too.


Had a great cruise across the Atlantic on Norwegian back in the day...not sure if they're still around, or independent, though.
 
2013-04-29 10:08:49 PM

The Muthaship: The way Admiralty law runs, they'll probably win.


Flogging for some, keelhauling for others?

/twirling, always twirling
 
2013-04-29 10:10:01 PM
The Carnival Triumph is still at the dock in Mobile,Al.

For minor problems, this cruise ship is really hanging out in Mobile for a long time...
 
2013-04-29 10:11:42 PM

PunGent: The Muthaship: The way Admiralty law runs, they'll probably win.

Flogging for some, keelhauling for others?

/twirling, always twirling


Rum, sodomy, and the lash.
 
2013-04-29 10:18:27 PM
At least the Triumph made it back to port.  Carnival's subsidiaries have a tougher time with that.

nyoobserver.files.wordpress.comdarkroom.baltimoresun.com
 
2013-04-29 10:40:35 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: What kind of a lawyer would represent a plastic, cigar-smoking dog with some guy's fist up his ass?

/the dog's ass...not the lawyer's ass


A very good one. Or a hack. Not much difference between the two extremes, really.
 
2013-04-29 10:49:01 PM

meanmutton: just_intonation: Carnival should settle those claims as quickly as possible with a smile and an apology.

vudutek: If nothing else, I hope the visible hand of the free market gives Carnival a much needed smackdown.

If not, then this.

Either way, I've decided that my SO and I will *never* cruise on Carnival, no matter what the outcome.  Too many bad experiences by family and friends related to me to want to take a chance on it, at least with *my* money.

They were given all their money back, had all their expenses paid, and were given a free trip at a later date.  Oh, and they got their "smile and an apology".  What more do people want?


I'm sure they are all hoping for millions each. Because people are stupid. And greedy.
 
2013-04-29 10:50:12 PM

The Muthaship: The way Admiralty law runs, they'll probably win.


Sure, but if the lawyers for the class are smart, they just wait for the Judge to leave room, declare the ship abandoned, press the jury into service, lock opposing counsel in the brig and then put a new hat and call each other "Commodore".

If they are smart...
 
2013-04-29 10:53:38 PM
Isn't class action a benefit for the company being sued so they don't have to respond to every lawsuit individually? Course Carnival is probably hoping they can get individuals to settle cheaply as they won't talk to one another.
 
2013-04-29 10:54:46 PM
This was the Triumph!

I'm filing a motion of distress.

Just to note my huge dissatisfaction.
 
2013-04-29 10:59:35 PM

lelio: Isn't class action a benefit for the company being sued so they don't have to respond to every lawsuit individually? Course Carnival is probably hoping they can get individuals to settle cheaply as they won't talk to one another.


Depends on the lawyers those individuals can get.
 
2013-04-29 11:06:52 PM

wingnut396: The Muthaship: The way Admiralty law runs, they'll probably win.

Sure, but if the lawyers for the class are smart, they just wait for the Judge to leave room, declare the ship abandoned, press the jury into service, lock opposing counsel in the brig and then put a new hat and call each other "Commodore".

If they are smart...


That only woeks if the flag has fringe on it.
 
2013-04-29 11:15:11 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: wingnut396: The Muthaship: The way Admiralty law runs, they'll probably win.

Sure, but if the lawyers for the class are smart, they just wait for the Judge to leave room, declare the ship abandoned, press the jury into service, lock opposing counsel in the brig and then put a new hat and call each other "Commodore".

If they are smart...

That only woeks if the flag has fringe on it.


Well duh.  It will most certainly have a fringe if it is an Admiralty court.  Did you not pay attention to the True Patriot Civics and Tax Seminar DVDs?
 
2013-04-29 11:19:42 PM

katerbug72: I say they lay it on the line and fight the good fight. Never surrender and hold on.

/that's all I got


Good enough for a +1 from me.
 
2013-04-29 11:23:46 PM

Nabb1: I say let 'em crash.


+1
 
2013-04-30 12:02:29 AM

meanmutton: just_intonation: Carnival should settle those claims as quickly as possible with a smile and an apology.

vudutek: If nothing else, I hope the visible hand of the free market gives Carnival a much needed smackdown.

If not, then this.

Either way, I've decided that my SO and I will *never* cruise on Carnival, no matter what the outcome.  Too many bad experiences by family and friends related to me to want to take a chance on it, at least with *my* money.

They were given all their money back, had all their expenses paid, and were given a free trip at a later date.  Oh, and they got their "smile and an apology".  What more do people want?


If Carnival knowingly put a ship to sea that had the kinds of issues Triumph seemed to have, and it could be proven in a court of law, I would say they have a right to seek some sort of redress beyond what they've received.

But,

maddogdelta: meanmutton: What more do people want?

Ships with crews that know how to operate and maintain a seaworthy vessel?


also, this.  Not just this specific crew.  It may be a symptom of a larger issue with Carnival.  Given some of the other incidents in the recent past, this might be a systemic problem.
 
2013-04-30 12:04:45 AM
As long as there are a bunch of fat pale idiots from the Midwest who DESERVE a vacation and will shop based on price alone Carnival will be fine.
 
2013-04-30 12:13:34 AM

badhatharry: They should have known what they were getting into. Going on a cruise is risky. You are hundreds of mile out at sea. The big safety drill at the beginning is a clue. This thing might sink.


imageshack.us
Yeah that looks risky as hell!
 
2013-04-30 12:21:46 AM

PunGent: T-Servo: [www.culturedviews.com image 250x174]
The only reason to go on a cruise is to pick up fatties.

/not literally, of course

Normally I don't sympathize with PETA...but that poor, sad donkey...


I agree. I hate seeing fat people sitting on donkeys, burros, horses, the economy seat next to me...
 
2013-04-30 12:24:07 AM

sharphead: badhatharry: They should have known what they were getting into. Going on a cruise is risky. You are hundreds of mile out at sea. The big safety drill at the beginning is a clue. This thing might sink.

[imageshack.us image 480x640]
Yeah that looks risky as hell!


graphics8.nytimes.com
Seen any good movies lately?
 
2013-04-30 12:26:13 AM

meanmutton: just_intonation: Carnival should settle those claims as quickly as possible with a smile and an apology.

vudutek: If nothing else, I hope the visible hand of the free market gives Carnival a much needed smackdown.

If not, then this.

Either way, I've decided that my SO and I will *never* cruise on Carnival, no matter what the outcome.  Too many bad experiences by family and friends related to me to want to take a chance on it, at least with *my* money.

They were given all their money back, had all their expenses paid, and were given a free trip at a later date.  Oh, and they got their "smile and an apology".  What more do people want?


THIS.  I don't see where Carnival owes them shiat.  I've been on that ship and had no complaints.  Now they owe ME a $300 bar tab for white kniting them on fark.
 
2013-04-30 12:30:49 AM

Tsar_Bomba1: namatad: maddogdelta: meanmutton: What more do people want?

Ships with crews that know how to operate and maintain a seaworthy vessel?

this is why you only sail on newer ships. first couple years.
TADA
Less of a chance of engine fires. Less of a chance of old drunk captain on list last voyage.
Newer tech than 10 or 20 years ago.

Ha-rumph... yes.


I see what you did there
 
2013-04-30 12:33:52 AM

DarthBart: Barfmaker: scottydoesntknow: vudutek: If nothing else, I hope the visible hand of the free market gives Carnival a much needed smackdown.

That's what I'm thinking. This lawsuit won't float, so the only way to hurt them is by not purchasing tickets and telling everyone else you know to not purchase tickets.

At least settling a lawsuit will let future passengers know that if the company farks up bad and you suffer for it, they'll pay you in the end. If this gets dismissed, all it's saying is that you're taking ALL of the risk when sailing with Carnival.

Yeah and then they'll knock 5 bucks off their ticket price and fill the ship up no problem at all.

Oh, and this:

[img811.imageshack.us image 500x293]

My parents are trying to talk the wife, daughter, and me into a Carnival cruise at the end of this year.  "The tickets are only $250 a person now for a 7 day cruise!".


The trick is to have each person in the party carry enough booze for EVERYBODY, one will get through and you will still save a shiatload over paying the bar tab.  Buy a unlimited "soda and Juice card" for mixers, then on the last day of the cruise you have to go to the customer service office and have them remove the automatic gratuity from your check.  Its automatic, not mandatory.

The Aristocrats!
 
2013-04-30 12:44:47 AM

thisisarepeat: The trick is to have each person in the party carry enough booze for EVERYBODY


Out of curiosity, how do they check for BYOBs?
 
2013-04-30 12:57:40 AM
You check all of your bags at the dock and they deliver them to the door of your cabin, they open and search some of them on the way, they dont have time to check ALL of them.

They price their drinks and cigarettes as if they have you on a boat in the middle of the ocean and you cant get them from anyone else.  You can literally buy five 1.75L bottles of Yeager, lose four to searches, and still save money.
 
2013-04-30 01:43:27 AM
Personally,  I'd love to see that clause of "no class action lawsuits" invalidated.
 
2013-04-30 01:59:53 AM

just_intonation: Either way, I've decided that my SO and I will *never* cruise on Carnival, no matter what the outcome. Too many bad experiences by family and friends related to me to want to take a chance on it, at least with *my* money.


But they gots Guy Fieri Burger Joints on board!  Name me another cruise line that gots Guy Fieri Burger Joints!
 
2013-04-30 03:31:04 AM
For a minute I really thought they had hired Triumph the Comedy Dog as a stage act and that were the grounds.... oh the name of the ship ...right.
 
2013-04-30 03:48:21 AM
Having just got back from a Carnival cruise to The Bahamas, St. Thomas and St. Martin, I'm getting a kick etc...

/Got two more cruises booked.
//All this bad PR is doing wonders for my wallet.
///Price protection is FTW!
 
2013-04-30 04:29:02 AM

cwolf20: Well, gotta give them credit for truth.. if the passengers buying tickets haven't figured out by now that they're taking their health in their hands with Carnival, then what exactly is the internet good for.


Slandering others anonymously and sharing pornography with one another?
 
2013-04-30 04:58:50 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: cwolf20: Well, gotta give them credit for truth.. if the passengers buying tickets haven't figured out by now that they're taking their health in their hands with Carnival, then what exactly is the internet good for.

Slandering others anonymously and sharing pornography with one another?


Mostly porn, but there is enough left over for pictures of house cats, and walruses holding buckets.  And securities fraud.
 
2013-04-30 07:43:11 AM

thisisarepeat: You check all of your bags at the dock and they deliver them to the door of your cabin, they open and search some of them on the way, they dont have time to check ALL of them.

They price their drinks and cigarettes as if they have you on a boat in the middle of the ocean and you cant get them from anyone else.  You can literally buy five 1.75L bottles of Yeager, lose four to searches, and still save money.


Or you could cruise Disney which lets you carry on as much alcohol as you can fit in your carry on luggage.
 
2013-04-30 08:20:54 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: cwolf20: Well, gotta give them credit for truth.. if the passengers buying tickets haven't figured out by now that they're taking their health in their hands with Carnival, then what exactly is the internet good for.

Slandering others anonymously and sharing pornography with one another?


you forgot download tv shows you're not supposed to download, post silly images with political quotes that weren't even said half the time.

And post on facebook about the baby going poopy then smearing it on the furniture
 
2013-04-30 10:23:14 AM

cwolf20: Uchiha_Cycliste: cwolf20: Well, gotta give them credit for truth.. if the passengers buying tickets haven't figured out by now that they're taking their health in their hands with Carnival, then what exactly is the internet good for.

Slandering others anonymously and sharing pornography with one another?

you forgot download tv shows you're not supposed to download, post silly images with political quotes that weren't even said half the time.

And post on facebook about the baby going poopy then smearing it on the furniture


I wouldn't say I forgot anything, I would say I divined a surprisingly good use for a jay and  silent bob quote.
 
2013-04-30 11:37:38 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: cwolf20: Uchiha_Cycliste: cwolf20: Well, gotta give them credit for truth.. if the passengers buying tickets haven't figured out by now that they're taking their health in their hands with Carnival, then what exactly is the internet good for.

Slandering others anonymously and sharing pornography with one another?

you forgot download tv shows you're not supposed to download, post silly images with political quotes that weren't even said half the time.

And post on facebook about the baby going poopy then smearing it on the furniture

I wouldn't say I forgot anything, I would say I divined a surprisingly good use for a jay and  silent bob quote.


lol good point
 
2013-04-30 03:21:37 PM

RexTalionis: Does anyone know the case number for the class action suit? I tried looking it up on Pacer and I couldn't figure out which one is the one I want.


PACER is federal only.  Since the article is light on ... anything, we don't know if it's even a federal case yet.

Honestly, you'll need AT LEAST a lawyers name or a district that it was filed in to find it.
 
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