DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible. Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.It doesn't bother me when unbelievers don't believe the bible. It's irritating when unbelievers smugly pretend the bible says something it doesn't. Homosexuality is an extremely serious sin according to the bible. I understand that you reject that teaching of the bible, but to pretend that the bible is unclear on that point demonstrates ignorance. If you think the bible is just a book of mythology, so be it. But at least be academically honest about what it says.
Aarontology: If you're concerned about your religion's version of morality, professional sports is the last thing that should be putting money in your pocket.
hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA? How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?
DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?
DmGdDawg: Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?It goes beyond stupidity. Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will. Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.Way to beat up that straw man!I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.You know, self-identified Christians back in the medieval era used to think that engaging in any kind of sexual activity, even exclusively procreative sexual activity with a spouse, was a sin that infinitely distanced you from the pure and uncorrupted God. They believed that the only way to be a devout follower of Christ was to be completely chaste and celibate because that's what God and Jesus are. Were these people not Real Christians™?Thanks for the made up history lesson. People in medieval days who didn't believe the bible weren't Christians anymore than people today who don't believe the bible.How do you know they didn't believe the Bible (whatever the Hell that means)? How do you know that any specific person living today who claims to be a Christian doesn't really believe the Bible?Let's go with an extreme example: Westboro Baptist Church. The church and its members self-identify as Christian. They consistently cite passages from the Bible during ...God will ultimately judge. Sure, there are people who claim to believe the bible who really don't. There are people like that in every church and even in may pulpits. The bible warns against such people and there are certainly warning signs, but only God knows someone's heart.
Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?It goes beyond stupidity. Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will. Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.
Xanadone: gilgigamesh: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.I don't know why we have to listen to this crap on ESPN at all. Half-assed NBA color analysts are the last people I want to hear debating civic and religious issues. Probably even less than pageant finalists, because that at least carries the possibility of being hilarious.Plus, pageant finalists are smarter than sportscasters.
fatalvenom: Hey now Christians....if you expect all of us heathens to believe your feel-good bedtime story, then why did your savior allow his favorite son to be released by the Jets this morning?Huh?/dropped some treble hooks//gonna catch me some bible-salmon
DmGdDawg: But at least be academically honest about what it says.
mjbok: As crappy as it is, in the eyes of the church he's right.
This Looks Fun: js34603:He was asked specifically about this on air while representing his employer and gave his personal opinion on air as a representative of his employer. He didnt do it for outrage or attention. He did it because it was his opinion and now he's going to almost certainly be disciplined, if not fired, for it.It would be like your emoloyer coworkerasking you your opinion on homosexuals because they found out a gay guy worked in your office and then firing you for your publicly voicing your opinion while representing your employer.You omitted some important information. I bolded it for you.
The Flexecutioner: collins was right in thinking a lot of guys wouldn't think he was gay. not many of his shots were particularly swishy.
Bonanza Jellybean: EyeballKid: Is it that difficult to be a sports opinion writer and not say stupid shiat?!Sort of. You need to outrage people (or at least take up unpopular positions) regularly in order to get noticed, but some (or many) talking heads aren't smart enough to pick their battles.
Trocadero: I've shaken AC Green's hand./csb
Lorelle: The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.
James!: hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA? How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?I don't think other players would be comfortable playing with a judgmental asshole, you know if this dude played basketball. Which he doesn't.
Skywolf the Scribbler: Me to Chris Broussard: Dude, the cool thing about Christianity is that we can have forgiving grace even if we live in sin--after all, nobody's perfect. I sure as hell have some ghastly sin I could tell you all about...
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