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(Think Progress)   According to my sources, Chris Broussard is about to get fired for his comments on Jason Collins   (thinkprogress.org ) divider line 186
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2013-04-29 04:04:08 PM  
Me to Chris Broussard: Dude, the cool thing about Christianity is that we can have forgiving grace even if we live in sin--after all, nobody's perfect. I sure as hell have some ghastly sin I could tell you all about...
 
2013-04-29 04:10:38 PM  
Wait, ESPN was showing two talking heads arguing about something? How am I supposed to keep up with Kobe Bryant's tweets?
 
2013-04-29 04:12:50 PM  
What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?
 
2013-04-29 04:15:45 PM  

hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?


It doesn't. It affects something far more important: HIS IMMORTAL SOUL!!!!!

/Shut up Broussard
 
2013-04-29 04:16:33 PM  

hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?


You don't seem to have a firm grasp of the facts in this situation.
 
2013-04-29 04:16:34 PM  

Skywolf the Scribbler: Me to Chris Broussard: Dude, the cool thing about Christianity is that we can have forgiving grace even if we live in sin--after all, nobody's perfect. I sure as hell have some ghastly sin I could tell you all about...


You remember that bit about loving your neighbor? Broussard's practicing the age-old christian tradition of reducing the number of neighbors he has by roping people he thinks are icky into some  other category.
 
2013-04-29 04:16:51 PM  
Is it that difficult to be a sports opinion writer and not say stupid shiat?!
 
2013-04-29 04:16:57 PM  

hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?


Unless you're arguing that the NBA is a government entity, first amendment is irrelevant. But you knew that.
 
2013-04-29 04:19:32 PM  

hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?


I don't think other players would be comfortable playing with a judgmental asshole, you know if this dude played basketball.  Which he doesn't.
 
2013-04-29 04:22:47 PM  

James!: hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?

I don't think other players would be comfortable playing with a judgmental asshole, you know if this dude played basketball.  Which he doesn't.


I don't think most NBA players could stop laughing after he compared having premarital heterosexual sex to homosexuality.  Then again, who was the player who "saved himself" for marriage years ago? He wasn't sanctimonious about it or anything, but it was well-known.
 
2013-04-29 04:24:43 PM  

Nabb1: James!: hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?

I don't think other players would be comfortable playing with a judgmental asshole, you know if this dude played basketball.  Which he doesn't.

I don't think most NBA players could stop laughing after he compared having premarital heterosexual sex to homosexuality.  Then again, who was the player who "saved himself" for marriage years ago? He wasn't sanctimonious about it or anything, but it was well-known.


Didn't Tebow do that?

They'll laugh until the dude starts publicly casting aspersions at their religious status because they choose to bang some fans.
 
2013-04-29 04:25:07 PM  

Nabb1: Then again, who was the player who "saved himself" for marriage years ago? He wasn't sanctimonious about it or anything, but it was well-known.


A.C. Green. I thought that was bullshiat, and he just didn't want to admit being the last man in California not named "Cube" or "Eazy" with a Jheri Curl couldn't get you laid even if Magic Johnson was attracting mad wannabe actress strange from every corner of the Forum.
 
2013-04-29 04:26:09 PM  

Nabb1: I don't think most NBA players could stop laughing after he compared having premarital heterosexual sex to homosexuality.  Then again, who was the player who "saved himself" for marriage years ago? He wasn't sanctimonious about it or anything, but it was well-known.


A.C. Green.
 
2013-04-29 04:28:28 PM  
Ah, yes, A.C. Green. Well, Broussard just committed career seppuku. I hope it was worth it to bash an aging bench warmer.
 
2013-04-29 04:29:15 PM  
Let's ask Chris about working on the Sabbath (they do still play games on The Lord's Day, correct?), turning the other cheek (which happens ALL the time when the benches clear, right?), casting the first stone (which admittedly, this wasn't - just Broussard being an idiot) or any of a hundred other things mentioned many multiples of times and in less-uncertain language than teh ghey.

Actually, Chris - how do you feel about the ~half of the NBA that has illegitimate kids? Are they also not Christian? You wanna take some time and call them ALLLLLL out by name, like you did with JColl? How about the ones with rap sheets longer than their stat sheets?

Oh, just teh ghey is a problem? Well, go sit on a railroad spike, buddy.
 
2013-04-29 04:45:17 PM  
The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.
 
2013-04-29 04:46:19 PM  

Lorelle: The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.


Not sure if read article.
 
2013-04-29 04:49:07 PM  

Lorelle: The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.


You might want to actually hear what he said on that issue.
 
2013-04-29 04:54:51 PM  
If you're concerned about your religion's version of morality, professional sports is the last thing that should be putting money in your pocket.
 
2013-04-29 05:03:33 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Let's ask Chris about working on the Sabbath (they do still play games on The Lord's Day, correct?), turning the other cheek (which happens ALL the time when the benches clear, right?), casting the first stone (which admittedly, this wasn't - just Broussard being an idiot) or any of a hundred other things mentioned many multiples of times and in less-uncertain language than teh ghey.

Actually, Chris - how do you feel about the ~half of the NBA that has illegitimate kids? Are they also not Christian? You wanna take some time and call them ALLLLLL out by name, like you did with JColl? How about the ones with rap sheets longer than their stat sheets?

Oh, just teh ghey is a problem? Well, go sit on a railroad spike, buddy.


And I bet he did it all while wearing blended fabrics!

/i'm not very good at this
 
2013-04-29 05:05:20 PM  

Aarontology: If you're concerned about your religion's version of morality, professional sports is the last thing that should be putting money in your pocket.


If you're concerned about you religion's version of morality, you should keep it YOUR religion. Especially if you're supposed to be a journalist. Not one person gives a flying f*ck what Chris Broussard's opinion on sin and one's everlasting soul is.
 
2013-04-29 05:16:58 PM  
Broussard is merely pointing out that any team with Collins on it will lose all the time because God will be with the other team without teh gheys. After a win, when a player gives the glory to God, this is the kind of thing Broussard is talking about.
 
2013-04-29 06:32:50 PM  

JerseyTim: Lorelle: The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.

Not sure if read article.


He singled out Collins. He didn't mention anyone else by name.
 
2013-04-29 06:39:39 PM  

EyeballKid: Is it that difficult to be a sports opinion writer and not say stupid shiat?!


Sportswriters are focused on sports. Nobody usually asks their opinion on larger society so it's more of a shock when they give one and it turns out to be clownpotatoes. We know Ted Cruz is full of shiat; we know Peter King is full of shiat; we know Ted Poe is full of shiat; we don't know that about Chris Broussard.
 
2013-04-29 06:40:37 PM  
Didn't John Amaechi come out before he retired or was it after?
 
2013-04-29 06:40:46 PM  
I hope ESPN promised him a nice fat payoff to go on the air and lay that steaming shiat-pile, for no other reason than to get a couple more ratings points in the middle of a Monday afternoon. What, did they think he was someone not going to say something that would cause a controversy?

ESPN is just the worst.
 
2013-04-29 06:46:15 PM  
I think calling someone a Christian is an insult. It means you're calling the person someone who would believe a fantastical fairy tale with tons of contradictions and complete logical impossibilities and fashioning his or her life completely around that made-up story. If he said to me "You're not a Christian," I would take that as a compliment.
 
2013-04-29 06:49:58 PM  
Broussard said he's have a hard time showering with an openly gay teammate. I would, too. It would be difficult to not be checking out his junk.
 
2013-04-29 06:51:24 PM  
Something something first stone...
 
2013-04-29 06:52:26 PM  
Broussard is black, so ESPN won't have to punish him.  Stephen A Smith says the N-word on the air once every few months or so, and I don't even think ESPN even mentions it to him in passing that maybe he shouldn't do that.   Broussard will be fine. Remember, in America, it's ok to be a hateful, intolerant, ignoramus, so long as you're black.
 
rka
2013-04-29 06:52:56 PM  

Gosling: EyeballKid: Is it that difficult to be a sports opinion writer and not say stupid shiat?!

Sportswriters are focused on sports. Nobody usually asks their opinion on larger society so it's more of a shock when they give one and it turns out to be clownpotatoes. We know Ted Cruz is full of shiat; we know Peter King is full of shiat; we know Ted Poe is full of shiat; we don't know that about Chris Broussard.


Now we do.
 
2013-04-29 06:53:22 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Way to kill your career for some sky cake, buddy.
 
2013-04-29 06:57:57 PM  
Things Jesus said: don't judge, love your neighbor, love your enemy, support the oppressed.

Thing Jesus did not say, ever: homosexuality is bad.
 
2013-04-29 07:01:26 PM  

vudutek: hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?

Unless you're arguing that the NBA is a government entity, first amendment is irrelevant. But you knew that.


Sometimes I wish this was Reddit so I could upvote this comment to the top. ESPN can fire and hire whoever they want. Moreover, I haven't read anywhere that Broussard is actually in danger of getting fired...though I wouldn't be surprised if he is.
 
2013-04-29 07:05:08 PM  

Super Chronic: Thing Jesus did not say, ever: homosexuality is bad.


The bible says it in about 359 different places, though. Right after the part where it says women should be stoned to death if they get raped or think about butterflies or something. Or maybe that's the Muslim bible, it's hard to tell, all these religions are the same.
 
cot
2013-04-29 07:08:32 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Remember, in America, it's ok to be a hateful, intolerant, ignoramus, so long as you're black


If you know this, why are you posting?  It's not OK for you.
 
2013-04-29 07:09:48 PM  
They're not going to fire him for stating his own opinion, because opinions are what drive all the shows on that network. Regardless, a sports news program isn't exactly the right medium to dive into your personal belief pulpit.
 
2013-04-29 07:14:12 PM  

Ponzholio: Didn't John Amaechi come out before he retired or was it after?


After
 
2013-04-29 07:15:56 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: Thing Jesus did not say, ever: homosexuality is bad.

The bible says it in about 359 different places, though. Right after the part where it says women should be stoned to death if they get raped or think about butterflies or something. Or maybe that's the Muslim bible, it's hard to tell, all these religions are the same.


Well, Leviticus says it (as you say, right between the parts about sewing garments from two threads and clipping one's hair at the temple) and then St. Paul of Tarsus says it, obliquely, when referring to "sexual morality" (although I would think he was more worried about adultery).  But Jesus, nope, that wasn't his bag.
 
2013-04-29 07:21:43 PM  
its bad when even ESPN's First Take is appalled by what you said.
 
2013-04-29 07:21:58 PM  

cot: Why Would I Read the Article: Remember, in America, it's ok to be a hateful, intolerant, ignoramus, so long as you're black

If you know this, why are you posting?  It's not OK for you.


*ohsnap.jpg*
 
2013-04-29 07:25:37 PM  
It really doesn't cost you anything to be polite and respectful towards other people, but it can cost you everything to be petty and mean (especially if you are in the public eye).
 
2013-04-29 07:30:18 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Green suffered from, or chronic, during his NBA career, the hiccups only stopping when Green was running or working out. Reportedly, Green never slept more than two hours at a time due to the condition. He has since recovered.


I think the cartoonist from Dilbert suffered from the same condition for a while, and then it just cleared up all of a sudden.
 
2013-04-29 07:31:29 PM  
I've shaken AC Green's hand.
/csb
 
2013-04-29 07:31:53 PM  
collins was right in thinking a lot of guys wouldn't think he was gay.  not many of his shots were particularly swishy.
 
2013-04-29 07:32:35 PM  
I will say that it's pretty funny that someone who has LeBron's cack in his mouth for 23.7 hrs a day...(save the .3 for brushing, flossing etc.) is opposed to someone else having a dick in their mouth.

/double-standards, how do they work?
 
2013-04-29 07:42:43 PM  
Subby should have used the Ironic tag since Chris himself is in the closet.
 
2013-04-29 07:42:53 PM  
To me though, the Mike Wallace one was worse. This was just a setup for ratings/manufactured controversy. Wallace's tweets were a gut instinct reaction. A fellow pro athlete, not even in his own sport, announces that he's gay,and Wallace's first instinct is to publicly announce how straight he is. "Boy, I sure do love women, yo. Look at how non-gay I am!" Dozens of other guys were good with generic tweets of support, but Wallace has to re-affirm his manliness...because he's threatened in some way? I'm sure there were/would be plenty others as well.

It's that kind of attitude/awkwardness that is going to be toughest for these guys to deal with and overcome.
 
2013-04-29 07:45:14 PM  

Trocadero: I've shaken AC Green's hand.
/csb


He was probably happy to get some action.
 
2013-04-29 08:01:10 PM  
It takes a lot to outdouche Skip Bayless on ESPN but I think this Chris guy just managed to do the impossible.

This is what really bothered me the most:

He also cast his doubt that being gay is biological, writing, "there are many scientists on both sides of the genetic debate, and I believe a truly objective person would admit the biological evidence for homosexuality is far from definitive."

It's only far from definitive in the eyes of people who don't want to admit that it's true.

Scientifically it's  been well-proven that it is biological, the skeptics only rebuttal seems to be "nuh uh" with nothing backing it up outside of some crazy conspiracy theories that the gay people bullied the psychological community into telling us that it is biological when it really isn't.
 
2013-04-29 08:01:21 PM  
"What is your opinion about this sensitive subject?"

"Here's my personal opinion about it"

"OMFG no one wants your ignorant opinion you bigot, hope you get fired!"

/the solution is to stop turning argument into entertainment and passing off opinion as journalism
 
2013-04-29 08:02:19 PM  
Heck, I'm just thankful he understands "both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death", as "not being a true christian".

This type of jackass would have been burning unbelievers at the stake a few hundred years ago.
 
2013-04-29 08:02:55 PM  
Cue lawsuit in 5. . . 4. . .3 . . . 2. . .
 
2013-04-29 08:07:50 PM  

king of vegas: I think calling someone a Christian is an insult. It means you're calling the person someone who would believe a fantastical fairy tale with tons of contradictions and complete logical impossibilities and fashioning his or her life completely around that made-up story. If he said to me "You're not a Christian," I would take that as a compliment.


I can't decide if you're trying a bit too hard or actually think that, so right off the bat I'm going to have to award you a 5/10 right off the bat.  It's brief and to too the point - but there's one of these "comments" in every thread even tangentially related to religion by people who feel the need to come leaping in and announce proudly about what they don't believe in - and they really mean it.
 
2013-04-29 08:11:41 PM  

Lorelle: JerseyTim: Lorelle: The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.

Not sure if read article.

He singled out Collins. He didn't mention anyone else by name.


Perhaps because the topic of discussion was Collins.
 
2013-04-29 08:13:08 PM  

Nabb1: James!: hasty ambush: What, no free speech in the NBA?  How does what he said affect his abiity to play basketball?

I don't think other players would be comfortable playing with a judgmental asshole, you know if this dude played basketball.  Which he doesn't.

I don't think most NBA players could stop laughing after he compared having premarital heterosexual sex to homosexuality.  Then again, who was the player who "saved himself" for marriage years ago? He wasn't sanctimonious about it or anything, but it was well-known.


Yeah, AC Green IIRC.  He "saved himself" for marriage, but didn't get on his high horse about it.
 
2013-04-29 08:14:54 PM  

Super Chronic: Things Jesus said: don't judge, love your neighbor, love your enemy, support the oppressed.

Thing Jesus did not say, ever: homosexuality is bad.


Then again, the bible-thumpers only go by the Old Testament.  Y'know, the one they don't have the balls to contest.
 
2013-04-29 08:16:46 PM  

js34603: "What is your opinion about this sensitive subject?"

"Here's my personal opinion about it"

"OMFG no one wants your ignorant opinion you bigot, hope you get fired!"

/the solution is to stop turning argument into entertainment and passing off opinion as journalism


Yet...the likes of ESPN will never do so because "ratings". :/
 
2013-04-29 08:28:14 PM  

Trocadero: I've shaken AC Green's hand.
/csb


I hope you washed yours afterward.
 
2013-04-29 08:30:31 PM  
Wow, I didn't think it was possible for anybody on ESPN to be douchier than they already are.
 
2013-04-29 08:39:01 PM  
What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.
 
2013-04-29 08:44:51 PM  
Hey if I wanted religion, I would have tuned into a different broadcast, right?

/Getcher bible outta my sportscast!
 
2013-04-29 08:46:25 PM  

EyeballKid: Is it that difficult to be a sports opinion writer and not say stupid shiat?!


Sort of. You need to outrage people (or at least take up unpopular positions) regularly in order to get noticed, but some (or many) talking heads aren't smart enough to pick their battles.
 
2013-04-29 08:51:24 PM  

Ponzholio: Didn't John Amaechi come out before he retired or was it after?


After. Not long after, but after

/Amaechi fan
 
2013-04-29 08:55:07 PM  

Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.


I don't know why we have to listen to this crap on ESPN at all. Half-assed NBA color analysts are the last people I want to hear debating civic and religious issues. Probably even less than pageant finalists, because that at least carries the possibility of being hilarious.
 
2013-04-29 08:57:37 PM  

Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.


Well, he heard that the Christ guy was hung like this. *spreads arms wide*
 
2013-04-29 09:01:15 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: EyeballKid: Is it that difficult to be a sports opinion writer and not say stupid shiat?!

Sort of. You need to outrage people (or at least take up unpopular positions) regularly in order to get noticed, but some (or many) talking heads aren't smart enough to pick their battles.


The thing is Broussard isn't even that guy, he isn't a talking head troll like Bayless or Screaming A Smith. He covers the NBA.

He was asked specifically about this and gave his personal opinion. He didnt do it for outrage or attention. He did it because it was his opinion and now he's going to almost certainly be disciplined, if not fired, for it.

It would be like your emoloyer asking you your opinion on homosexuals because they found out a gay guy worked in your office and then firing you for your opinion.

I find the whole thing irritating and disgusting. Broussard's opinion (and let's not pretend he's the only Christian to think like that) the reaction to it (politically incorrect opinions! get the pitchforks!...people care less about the issue than they do about being outraged) and the inevitable gesture ESPN will make to appease the mob; the whole thing is stupid.
 
2013-04-29 09:04:04 PM  

The Flexecutioner: collins was right in thinking a lot of guys wouldn't think he was gay.  not many of his shots were particularly swishy.


Wanna single this one out for some love. Made me snert.
 
2013-04-29 09:06:05 PM  

LucklessWonder: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.

Well, he heard that the Christ guy was hung like this. *spreads arms wide*


If you weren't already going to hell for being a Redskins fan, this would really seal it.
 
2013-04-29 09:15:54 PM  

LucklessWonder: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.

Well, he heard that the Christ guy was hung like this. *spreads arms wide*


YESSSSS!!!!!
 
2013-04-29 09:19:44 PM  

Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.


See my above post.
 
2013-04-29 09:23:10 PM  

fatalvenom: See my above post.


*snort*

Well-played.
 
2013-04-29 09:23:23 PM  
js34603:He was asked specifically about this on air while representing his employer and gave his personal opinion on air as a representative of his employer. He didnt do it for outrage or attention. He did it because it was his opinion and now he's going to almost certainly be disciplined, if not fired, for it.

It would be like your emoloyer coworkerasking you your opinion on homosexuals because they found out a gay guy worked in your office and then firing you for your publicly voicing your opinion while representing your employer.


You omitted some important information. I bolded it for you.
 
2013-04-29 09:31:33 PM  
Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.
 
2013-04-29 09:36:37 PM  
I guess if Jesus was ok with a hooker, I can be ok with gays. Seriously, Matthew 7:5
 
2013-04-29 09:48:23 PM  

This Looks Fun: js34603:He was asked specifically about this on air while representing his employer and gave his personal opinion on air as a representative of his employer. He didnt do it for outrage or attention. He did it because it was his opinion and now he's going to almost certainly be disciplined, if not fired, for it.

It would be like your emoloyer coworkerasking you your opinion on homosexuals because they found out a gay guy worked in your office and then firing you for your publicly voicing your opinion while representing your employer.

You omitted some important information. I bolded it for you.


Yeah, people get fired by their companies for saying dumb shiat every day, just look at that tool Creative Director from Microsoft.
 
2013-04-29 09:50:47 PM  
FTFA: But in that same essay, he also said it would make him "a little uncomfortable" to shower with a gay teammate.

Translation:  "I don't like the gays, but I'm still narcissistic enough to believe the gay guys would find me to be hot".
 
2013-04-29 10:04:46 PM  

LucklessWonder: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.

Well, he heard that the Christ guy was hung like this. *spreads arms wide*


+1 internets for you, actual LOLz were has.
 
2013-04-29 10:11:46 PM  

DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.


Nowhere near as reliable as bible experts on a sports network
 
2013-04-29 10:17:35 PM  

DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.


You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?
 
2013-04-29 10:20:41 PM  
If you read the quote: "Personally, I don't believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly, like premarital sex between heterosexuals. If you're openly living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says you know them by their fruits. It says that, you know, that's a sin. If you're openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, whatever it maybe, I believe that's walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. So I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don't think the bible would characterize them as a Christian."

He's giving his opinion based on a book that he believes.  I didn't watch the video, but to characterize this as gay-bashing is a stretch.  He is saying my religion states x, the other guy does the opposite of x, so therefore other guy is not a member in good standing of said religion.  As crappy as it is, in the eyes of the church he's right.  The bible, much like cable TV, is not ala carte.  You can't pick and choose what you want to follow (according to the church).

To be fair he is saying the same thing about people who have pre-marital sex, and you don't see an outrage over that.

Skywolf the Scribbler: Dude, the cool thing about Christianity is that we can have forgiving grace even if we live in sin--after all, nobody's perfect. I sure as hell have some ghastly sin I could tell you all about...


The thing about Christianity is you can't be forgiven for a "sin" if you don't repent and fully intend to do it again.

//Hate all organized religion

//Many reasons other than race, sexual preference, gender, etc. to hate people for, pick one of those.
 
2013-04-29 10:26:57 PM  
Anyone else suspect that this was ESPN  yet  again manufacturing controversy? They had to have known what he was going to say  but they put him on anyway to make themselves part of the story.
 
2013-04-29 10:30:47 PM  

mjbok: As crappy as it is, in the eyes of the church he's right.


Riddle me this, good sir: What the hell does that have to do with this Jason Collins's ability to play basketball? Did Jason Collins profess to be a good Christian? I didn't see any of that. The only things I saw him profess to be are black & gay. Who said you have to be a good Christian in order to play basketball? Is that in the bylaws? Sounds discriminatory.
 
2013-04-29 10:35:57 PM  

Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?


Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

It doesn't bother me when unbelievers don't believe the bible. It's irritating when unbelievers smugly pretend the bible says something it doesn't. Homosexuality is an extremely serious sin according to the bible. I understand that you reject that teaching of the bible, but to pretend that the bible is unclear on that point demonstrates ignorance. If you think the bible is just a book of mythology, so be it. But at least be academically honest about what it says.
 
2013-04-29 10:36:09 PM  

Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.


I was thinking the same thing. It makes no sense.
 
2013-04-29 10:37:16 PM  

Di Atribe: Riddle me this, good sir: What the hell does that have to do with this Jason Collins's ability to play basketball? Did Jason Collins profess to be a good Christian? I didn't see any of that. The only things I saw him profess to be are black & gay. Who said you have to be a good Christian in order to play basketball? Is that in the bylaws? Sounds discriminatory.


I'll counter this with what the hell does being chaste (if not married) have to do with one's ability to play basketball?  In the quote I read he came out against both equally, basically (in his opinion) flying in the face of God's rules.

His statement (once again the quote I read) might make him an idiot, but it doesn't make him a bigot as he has equal scorn for people "living in sin" as well as leading a homosexual lifestyle.  It doesn't make him anti-gay as much as anti-sin (per his warped ideals).

People are taking his statements purely as anti-gay, which they aren't.  I think he's an idiot for his statements, but people are deriding him for the wrong thing IMHO.  Attack the ideals from where he gets them.

//Would take a gay devil on my basketball team if he had a good jumper.
 
2013-04-29 10:47:47 PM  

DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

It doesn't bother me when unbelievers don't believe the bible. It's irritating when unbelievers smugly pretend the bible says something it doesn't. Homosexuality is an extremely serious sin according to the bible. I understand that you reject that teaching of the bible, but to pretend that the bible is unclear on that point demonstrates ignorance. If you think the bible is just a book of mythology, so be it. But at least be academically honest about what it says.


I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.
 
2013-04-29 10:50:13 PM  

DmGdDawg: But at least be academically honest about what it says.


Oh I'm honest about what it says. You didn't answer my question because Jesus said neither jot nor tittle about homosexuality. I spent 18 years having the Bible hammered into my skull, watching the adults around me pick & choose which rules they followed while shaming me for daring to ask why they got to pick & choose. But I don't look back on my days in the church with bitterness. I learned a lot of good things, like how Jesus loved everyone, but threw the money changers out of the temple. How he was all, "Hey, you don't have to slaughter goats for my dad any more." And stuff like,"Maybe we shouldn't stone our children to death for misbehaving any more." I mean, he had some really good ideas. Being dickwads to homos isn't in the contract, though. It's none of your business & it's none of Chris Broussard's business. Just let people be & we can all live in harmony. Your faith ends where other people's begins.
 
2013-04-29 10:53:56 PM  

DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

It doesn't bother me when unbelievers don't believe the bible. It's irritating when unbelievers smugly pretend the bible says something it doesn't. Homosexuality is an extremely serious sin according to the bible. I understand that you reject that teaching of the bible, but to pretend that the bible is unclear on that point demonstrates ignorance. If you think the bible is just a book of mythology, so be it. But at least be academically honest about what it says.


Bullshiat. Your bad theology is just that, bad theology. You're reading passages about temple prostitution in the worship of pagan gods as being rules about everyone. Just because you and the religious right can't do basic hermeneutics  properly doesn't make you right about what the Bible says, it just shows that your hermeneutic skills and theology suck.
 
2013-04-29 10:57:08 PM  

mjbok: I didn't watch the video, but to characterize this as gay-bashing is a stretch.


First thing I thought of.  Wildly inappropriate and probably should earn him a firing, but can we just this once not equate such comments with physical violence?
 
2013-04-29 10:59:04 PM  

jrodr018: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

It doesn't bother me when unbelievers don't believe the bible. It's irritating when unbelievers smugly pretend the bible says something it doesn't. Homosexuality is an extremely serious sin according to the bible. I understand that you reject that teaching of the bible, but to pretend that the bible is unclear on that point demonstrates ignorance. If you think the bible is just a book of mythology, so be it. But at least be academically honest about what it says.

I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.


I can tell from what you wrote here that you're not a Christian. Stop kidding yourself.
 
2013-04-29 11:01:30 PM  

rynthetyn: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

It doesn't bother me when unbelievers don't believe the bible. It's irritating when unbelievers smugly pretend the bible says something it doesn't. Homosexuality is an extremely serious sin according to the bible. I understand that you reject that teaching of the bible, but to pretend that the bible is unclear on that point demonstrates ignorance. If you think the bible is just a book of mythology, so be it. But at least be academically honest about what it says.

Bullshiat. Your bad theology is just that, bad theology. You're reading passages about temple prostitution in the worship of pagan gods as being rules about everyone. Just because you and the religious right can't do basic hermeneutics  properly doesn't make you right about what the Bible says, it just shows that your hermeneutic skills and theology suck.


Haha, there you go again. Go ahead and tell me how God killed all the homos in Sodom because they were inhospitable because I know that nonsense is coming, too.
 
2013-04-29 11:03:28 PM  

Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: But at least be academically honest about what it says.

Oh I'm honest about what it says. You didn't answer my question because Jesus said neither jot nor tittle about homosexuality. I spent 18 years having the Bible hammered into my skull, watching the adults around me pick & choose which rules they followed while shaming me for daring to ask why they got to pick & choose. But I don't look back on my days in the church with bitterness. I learned a lot of good things, like how Jesus loved everyone, but threw the money changers out of the temple. How he was all, "Hey, you don't have to slaughter goats for my dad any more." And stuff like,"Maybe we shouldn't stone our children to death for misbehaving any more." I mean, he had some really good ideas. Being dickwads to homos isn't in the contract, though. It's none of your business & it's none of Chris Broussard's business. Just let people be & we can all live in harmony. Your faith ends where other people's begins.


None of that is in the bible. That's what I'm talking about. You should have read the bible instead of simply listening to what someone said that it says.
 
2013-04-29 11:04:34 PM  

DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore: 

I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.

I can tell from what you wrote here that you're not a Christian. Stop kidding yourself.


Oh you're just a troll. Make sure next time you use scriptures it is actually related to what we are discussing. More bites, you know? Thanks for clarifying. Hope you are keeping Sabbath. Troll.
 
2013-04-29 11:05:34 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Let's ask Chris about working on the Sabbath (they do still play games on The Lord's Day, correct?), turning the other cheek (which happens ALL the time when the benches clear, right?), casting the first stone (which admittedly, this wasn't - just Broussard being an idiot) or any of a hundred other things mentioned many multiples of times and in less-uncertain language than teh ghey.

Actually, Chris - how do you feel about the ~half of the NBA that has illegitimate kids? Are they also not Christian? You wanna take some time and call them ALLLLLL out by name, like you did with JColl? How about the ones with rap sheets longer than their stat sheets?

Oh, just teh ghey is a problem? Well, go sit on a railroad spike, buddy.


I imagine he would have plenty to say, and if he understands the Bible as well as he is suggesting, he'll tell you about the plank in his eye, and that encouraging someone to sin is not loving or avoiding judgment.  But since it is unlikely he will be responding to what you are posting here, you can just feel smug in thinking that you know better when you really have no evidence to backup your statement.

But then, I'm sure it makes you feel better that you can get the last word in a conversation he isn't a part of.  If that helps you sleep at night, well then, bully for you.
 
2013-04-29 11:07:05 PM  

jrodr018: DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore: 

I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.

I can tell from what you wrote here that you're not a Christian. Stop kidding yourself.

Oh you're just a troll. Make sure next time you use scriptures it is actually related to what we are discussing. More bites, you know? Thanks for clarifying. Hope you are keeping Sabbath. Troll.


I'm a troll because I don't pretend like someone who doesn't believe the bible is a Christian anyway?
 
2013-04-29 11:09:13 PM  

DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore: 

I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.

I can tell from what you wrote here that you're not a Christian. Stop kidding yourself.

Oh you're just a troll. Make sure next time you use scriptures it is actually related to what we are discussing. More bites, you know? Thanks for clarifying. Hope you are keeping Sabbath. Troll.

I'm a troll because I don't pretend like someone who doesn't believe the bible is a Christian anyway?


Yes.
 
2013-04-29 11:13:09 PM  

jrodr018: DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore: 

I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.

I can tell from what you wrote here that you're not a Christian. Stop kidding yourself.

Oh you're just a troll. Make sure next time you use scriptures it is actually related to what we are discussing. More bites, you know? Thanks for clarifying. Hope you are keeping Sabbath. Troll.

I'm a troll because I don't pretend like someone who doesn't believe the bible is a Christian anyway?

Yes.


Haha, fine then. No sense arguing with that.
 
2013-04-29 11:15:00 PM  

DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: jrodr018: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore: 

I hope nobody believes that ALL Christians are like this a-hole. I sure as hell am not. Great for you to cherry-pick some passages, yet I am sure you are probably wearing and have had for lunch and dinner "abominations to the eyes of the Lord." You are the reason good and true Christians are hated. Thanks for setting us back a few centuries, troll.

I can tell from what you wrote here that you're not a Christian. Stop kidding yourself.

Oh you're just a troll. Make sure next time you use scriptures it is actually related to what we are discussing. More bites, you know? Thanks for clarifying. Hope you are keeping Sabbath. Troll.

I'm a troll because I don't pretend like someone who doesn't believe the bible is a Christian anyway?

Yes.

Haha, fine then. No sense arguing with that.


That's what I said. Thanks for playing. Troll.
 
2013-04-29 11:20:45 PM  
Hey now Christians....if you expect all of us heathens to believe your feel-good bedtime story, then why did your savior allow his favorite son to be released by the Jets this morning?

Huh?

/dropped some treble hooks
//gonna catch me some bible-salmon
 
2013-04-29 11:22:25 PM  

gilgigamesh: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.

I don't know why we have to listen to this crap on ESPN at all. Half-assed NBA color analysts are the last people I want to hear debating civic and religious issues. Probably even less than pageant finalists, because that at least carries the possibility of being hilarious.


Plus, pageant finalists are smarter than sportscasters.
 
2013-04-29 11:25:22 PM  

fatalvenom: Hey now Christians....if you expect all of us heathens to believe your feel-good bedtime story, then why did your savior allow his favorite son to be released by the Jets this morning?

Huh?

/dropped some treble hooks
//gonna catch me some bible-salmon


" Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, farkin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!  "

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

//There was a fair amount of Tebow bashing that was about his faith.
 
2013-04-29 11:27:11 PM  
I don't see professing someone's religion as hate-speech.  In that case, all you farkers should be cleansed by the God of Light!
 
2013-04-29 11:31:07 PM  

DmGdDawg: None of that is in the bible. That's what I'm talking about. You should have read the bible instead of simply listening to what someone said that it says.


Oh you bet your ass it's in there. I know you want me to waste all night searching scripture & annotating it all, but that's not going to happen because I don't give a shiat. All that matters is that your religion doesn't mean anything in regards to this story or this issue or Jason Collins's life or anyone's life but your own. Go back into your safe little church bubble & talk to yourself about how righteous you are. The rest of us are probably going to have a parade. I like parades.
 
2013-04-29 11:31:22 PM  

Xanadone: gilgigamesh: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.

I don't know why we have to listen to this crap on ESPN at all. Half-assed NBA color analysts are the last people I want to hear debating civic and religious issues. Probably even less than pageant finalists, because that at least carries the possibility of being hilarious.

Plus, pageant finalists are smarter than sportscasters.


I hope, hope, that this is the end of Broussard's career. This worthless assclown had no business having a job in the industry anyhow,  and made whomever gave Skip Bayliss a job an opportunity to point and say, "hey, at least I didn't hire him".
 
2013-04-29 11:42:28 PM  

Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.


To be fair Collins was the one who brought up religion.
 
2013-04-29 11:46:12 PM  
Hmmm..And who are your 'sources'?
 
2013-04-29 11:55:58 PM  

mjbok: Di Atribe: What does this guy's religion have to do with Jason Collins' sexuality? Why would Chris Broussard think that anyone would care? I just really don't get it.

To be fair Collins was the one who brought up religion.


Oh. Hm. You're right. I guess I was so focused on Broussard's comments that I sort of missed that part. Herpaderp on me, for sure.
 
2013-04-30 12:07:48 AM  

rynthetyn: Anyone else suspect that this was ESPN  yet  again manufacturing controversy? They had to have known what he was going to say  but they put him on anyway to make themselves part of the story.


That's exactly what it was. It's not like this was a secret that Broussard felt this way. Hell, he's even friends with the person he was debating.
 
2013-04-30 12:17:10 AM  

js34603: "What is your opinion about this sensitive subject?"

"Here's my personal opinion about it"

"OMFG no one wants your ignorant opinion you bigot, hope you get fired!"

/the solution is to stop turning argument into entertainment and passing off opinion as journalism


I was almost banned from another message board when someone started a thread about what people thought about same-sex marriage.  I wrote that I approved, and that any religious belief that hurt another person was just a form of bigotry.  So it goes both ways.

/I didn't realize I said something horribly offensive on a THREAD ABOUT IT
 
2013-04-30 12:25:12 AM  
And now Tim Brando is getting butthurt because people are yelling at him because he said this guy isn't a hero for coming out. He then played the persecuted WASP card (which seems to be played more often than the race card these days).

/Jeez, can't even be a good little Christian bigot these days without people yelling at you.
 
2013-04-30 12:33:24 AM  

Super Chronic: Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: Thing Jesus did not say, ever: homosexuality is bad.

The bible says it in about 359 different places, though. Right after the part where it says women should be stoned to death if they get raped or think about butterflies or something. Or maybe that's the Muslim bible, it's hard to tell, all these religions are the same.

Well, Leviticus says it (as you say, right between the parts about sewing garments from two threads and clipping one's hair at the temple) and then St. Paul of Tarsus says it, obliquely, when referring to "sexual morality" (although I would think he was more worried about adultery).  But Jesus, nope, that wasn't his bag.


Well, to be fair, Jesus actually never said anything in the Bible, since the Gospels, the Acts accounts, and all of the epistles are all secondhand accounts written decades after he lived.  And who knows how long after he died Revelation was tacked on.
 
2013-04-30 12:49:52 AM  

RevMercutio: rynthetyn: Anyone else suspect that this was ESPN  yet  again manufacturing controversy? They had to have known what he was going to say  but they put him on anyway to make themselves part of the story.

That's exactly what it was. It's not like this was a secret that Broussard felt this way. Hell, he's even friends with the person he was debating.


Which pretty much makes ESPN the evil empire who inserts themselves into the middle of every story yet again.
 
2013-04-30 01:34:56 AM  
People realize that Chris said this because he was asked about it right? It wasn't like "Jason Collins came out, I'm gonna use this time to talk about religion now." Both Collins and LZ Granderson (the gentleman that was debating with Broussard) identify as gay Christians. Thus, the topic of Christianity came up and Broussard gave his opinion.

I don't understand why half are you are up in arms, shouting, "WHY IS HE TALKING ABOUT TEH BIBLEZ?!?!" It should seem clear how they got to that point.
 
2013-04-30 01:35:16 AM  
If Jason Collins coming out results in Chris Broussard getting fired, I'll kiss him if I ever see him.
 
2013-04-30 01:35:19 AM  
Broussard has been saying stuff like this publicly since at least 2009. I'm sure they put him on that OTL because they new exactly the type of opinion he was going to give and if they didn't the producers are idiots. I'm not sure what is fireable about that. Can you legally fire someone for a religous opinion? His brand of christianity is the exclusionary type anyway. He probably would label me a heathen because I'm catholic (non practicing). I'm not a christian to them because I didn't get saved.
 
2013-04-30 01:38:23 AM  

carnifex2005: If Jason Collins coming out results in Chris Broussard getting fired, I'll kiss him if I ever see him.


Amen, and I went to Cal, so I hate Stanfurd alumni on principle.
 
2013-04-30 01:50:48 AM  

gtfan92: I don't understand why half are you are up in arms, shouting, "WHY IS HE TALKING ABOUT TEH BIBLEZ?!?!" It should seem clear how they got to that point.


We're not up in arms because of him mentioning the bible per se.
 
2013-04-30 01:57:50 AM  
Religion is gay.
 
2013-04-30 02:41:35 AM  

Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: None of that is in the bible. That's what I'm talking about. You should have read the bible instead of simply listening to what someone said that it says.

Oh you bet your ass it's in there. I know you want me to waste all night searching scripture & annotating it all, but that's not going to happen because I don't give a shiat. All that matters is that your religion doesn't mean anything in regards to this story or this issue or Jason Collins's life or anyone's life but your own. Go back into your safe little church bubble & talk to yourself about how righteous you are. The rest of us are probably going to have a parade. I like parades.


you're pretty green now.
 
2013-04-30 04:31:07 AM  
Chris Broussard:

thetampainjurylawyers.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-30 06:56:21 AM  

DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, Some people who self-identify as "Christians," myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.


You sanctimonious SOB, please stop pretending that you speak for an entire group of people when you clearly don't.

Ok, thanks.
 
2013-04-30 07:12:59 AM  

Skywolf the Scribbler: Me to Chris Broussard: Dude, the cool thing about Christianity is that we can have forgiving grace even if we live in sin--after all, nobody's perfect. I sure as hell have some ghastly sin I could tell you all about...


This is the Boobies?  Fark off.   This is not sin.  Farker.
 
2013-04-30 07:39:45 AM  
This is garage, he did not single out gay people, he specifically said people having sex without being married, regardless of orientation......wait a tic, gays cant get married.  Fire him.
 
2013-04-30 07:48:44 AM  
Does he also disapprove of players tattoos?
 
2013-04-30 07:57:14 AM  
Lorelle

The Bible also considers fornication to be a huge sin, most NBA players are guilty of it, yet Broussard isn't condemning THEM. Hypocrite.

Illiterate much?
 
2013-04-30 08:23:24 AM  

tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, Some people who self-identify as "Christians," myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

You sanctimonious SOB, please stop pretending that you speak for an entire group of people when you clearly don't.

Ok, thanks.


If you don't believe the bible, you're not a Christian. Not sure why that's so offensive to you. I don't believe the Quran so it wouldn't offend me if someone pointed out that I'm not a Muslim.
 
2013-04-30 08:39:36 AM  
DmGdDawg:

If you don't believe the bible, you're not a Christian. Not sure why that's so offensive to you. I don't believe the Quran so it wouldn't offend me if someone pointed out that I'm not a Muslim.

It's offensive because you are claiming total authority over Christianity.  There are many, many different interpretations and translations of the Bible, and many many different versions, sects, denominations of Christianity.  Claiming to speak for all Christians is akin to claiming to speak for all Americans.  Sure, you can do it, but you are wrong and douchey.

As a religion major and someone who has known many very religious gay and lesbian people, I feel confident in saying you are absolutely not speaking in the name of all Christians.  In fact, no one is.

Speak for yourself.  That's fine.  Lumping all Christians into your myopic point of view is what makes people think that Christianity is a close-minded and hateful religion.

/douchey-douche is a douche
 
2013-04-30 08:57:51 AM  

tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg:

If you don't believe the bible, you're not a Christian. Not sure why that's so offensive to you. I don't believe the Quran so it wouldn't offend me if someone pointed out that I'm not a Muslim.

It's offensive because you are claiming total authority over Christianity.  There are many, many different interpretations and translations of the Bible, and many many different versions, sects, denominations of Christianity.  Claiming to speak for all Christians is akin to claiming to speak for all Americans.  Sure, you can do it, but you are wrong and douchey.

As a religion major and someone who has known many very religious gay and lesbian people, I feel confident in saying you are absolutely not speaking in the name of all Christians.  In fact, no one is.

Speak for yourself.  That's fine.  Lumping all Christians into your myopic point of view is what makes people think that Christianity is a close-minded and hateful religion.

/douchey-douche is a douche


Sure, there are lots of "religious" gay people.  I'm sorry it offends your sense of "fairness" or whatever, but if you reject the bible you aren't a Christian. Jesus didn't believe in an "inclusive" Christianity:

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13-14.

He also warned that many who claim to be Christians are not:  "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21-23

So you can claim to be whatever you wish, but if you are following a "Christianity" of your making you're not one that Jesus would call a "Christian" even though you'll be quite popular among the other unbelieving "religious" people in the world. As for me, I would much rather be acceptable to God than to man.
 
2013-04-30 08:57:58 AM  
No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.
 
2013-04-30 09:06:27 AM  

DmGdDawg: tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg:

If you don't believe the bible, you're not a Christian. Not sure why that's so offensive to you. I don't believe the Quran so it wouldn't offend me if someone pointed out that I'm not a Muslim.

It's offensive because you are claiming total authority over Christianity.  There are many, many different interpretations and translations of the Bible, and many many different versions, sects, denominations of Christianity.  Claiming to speak for all Christians is akin to claiming to speak for all Americans.  Sure, you can do it, but you are wrong and douchey.

As a religion major and someone who has known many very religious gay and lesbian people, I feel confident in saying you are absolutely not speaking in the name of all Christians.  In fact, no one is.

Speak for yourself.  That's fine.  Lumping all Christians into your myopic point of view is what makes people think that Christianity is a close-minded and hateful religion.

/douchey-douche is a douche

Sure, there are lots of "religious" gay people.  I'm sorry it offends your sense of "fairness" or whatever, but if you reject the bible you aren't a Christian. Jesus didn't believe in an "inclusive" Christianity:

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13-14.

He also warned that many who claim to be Christians are not:  "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21-23

So you can claim to be whatever you wish, but ...


You don't get to decide who is a Christian and who isn't, regardless of what criteria you have chosen.

I myself am not religious, but I am a religious scholar and have spent time in houses of worship all over the world.  Religious sects of any type that claim complete dominion on the truth are dangerous.

Enjoy your tiny hate-filled world, douche.
 
2013-04-30 09:08:22 AM  

Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.


Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.
 
2013-04-30 09:13:34 AM  

mjbok: Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch.


www.thefilmpilgrim.com
 
2013-04-30 09:24:11 AM  

tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg: tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg:

If you don't believe the bible, you're not a Christian. Not sure why that's so offensive to you. I don't believe the Quran so it wouldn't offend me if someone pointed out that I'm not a Muslim.

It's offensive because you are claiming total authority over Christianity.  There are many, many different interpretations and translations of the Bible, and many many different versions, sects, denominations of Christianity.  Claiming to speak for all Christians is akin to claiming to speak for all Americans.  Sure, you can do it, but you are wrong and douchey.

As a religion major and someone who has known many very religious gay and lesbian people, I feel confident in saying you are absolutely not speaking in the name of all Christians.  In fact, no one is.

Speak for yourself.  That's fine.  Lumping all Christians into your myopic point of view is what makes people think that Christianity is a close-minded and hateful religion.

/douchey-douche is a douche

Sure, there are lots of "religious" gay people.  I'm sorry it offends your sense of "fairness" or whatever, but if you reject the bible you aren't a Christian. Jesus didn't believe in an "inclusive" Christianity:

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13-14.

He also warned that many who claim to be Christians are not:  "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21-23

So you can claim to be whatever you ...


God will decide, no doubt. But He has made the criteria by which He will decide plain to anyone who cares to know.
 
2013-04-30 09:27:32 AM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.


Riiiight...  "Morally wrong."

You're enjoying putting words in my mouth (or, at my fingertips, as the case may be), aren't you?

The second you use the Bible (or any other holy book) to condemn the actions of someone, you've completely abandoned the concept of freedom that America claims to hold so very dear.

Aside from that, I don't think I ever said that Broussard wasn't entitled to his opinion.  Did I say that anywhere?  It was so long ago, and my memory just isn't what it used to be.

Oh.  I didn't say that, did I?

Weird that you would go to such lengths to accuse me of that while also criticizing me of "beating a straw man," don't you think?
 
2013-04-30 09:31:02 AM  
"Well, now that the Christ has arrived, we can drop all those wacky Old Testament rules. Except for the ones we want to keep. Ignore the ones we don't want anymore, but if you break any of the ones we want to hold on to, you're going to Hell."
 
2013-04-30 09:36:18 AM  

Robert1966: "Well, now that the Christ has arrived, we can drop all those wacky Old Testament rules. Except for the ones we want to keep. Ignore the ones we don't want anymore, but if you break any of the ones we want to hold on to, you're going to Hell."


If there wasn't so much money in poly-blended fabrics, raw bars and time-and-a-half Sunday wages, I'm certain Christians would be humping the evils of those as well.  We just need to make being gay profitable, and Jesus will love it for reals!!!
 
2013-04-30 09:56:00 AM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.


You know, self-identified Christians back in the medieval era used to think that engaging in any kind of sexual activity, even exclusively procreative sexual activity with a spouse, was a sin that infinitely distanced you from the pure and uncorrupted God. They believed that the only way to be a devout follower of Christ was to be completely chaste and celibate because that's what God and Jesus are. Were these people not Real Christians™?
 
2013-04-30 10:06:10 AM  

DmGdDawg: tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg: Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: Few things in life are more predictable than the bible "experts" on Fark.

You're right. We're ignorant. Please tell us what Jesus had to say about homosexuals?

Christians, Some people who self-identify as "Christians," myself included, believe that the bible is the very word of God, written by men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have to repeat every commandment found elsewhere in the bible and He didn't offer some contradictory teaching to the rest of the bible.  Jesus never taught a new morality or that some things just simply weren't sins anymore:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-19.

You sanctimonious SOB, please stop pretending that you speak for an entire group of people when you clearly don't.

Ok, thanks.

If you don't believe the bible, you're not a Christian. Not sure why that's so offensive to you. I don't believe the Quran so it wouldn't offend me if someone pointed out that I'm not a Muslim.


Spirituality trumps Christianity.  I don't need to believe in the bible to believe that there is a Supreme Being in the universe.
 
2013-04-30 10:23:04 AM  

Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.

Riiiight...  "Morally wrong."

You're enjoying putting words in my mouth (or, at my fingertips, as the case may be), aren't you?

The second you use the Bible (or any other holy book) to condemn the actions of someone, you've completely abandoned the concept of freedom that America claims to hold so very dear.

Aside from that, I don't think I ever said that Broussard wasn't entitled to his opinion.  Did I say that anywhere?  It was so long ago, and my memory just isn't what it used to be.

Oh.  I didn't say that, did I?

Weird that you would go to such lengths to accuse me of that while also criticizing me of "beating a straw man," don't you think?


Wait...so freedom means that not only can you do whatever you want, but you are also entitled to the approval of others? Or is it okay to be opposed to something someone else is doing as long as your opposition isn't based on the bible? Pretty creative approach, lol.

Aside from that, I don't think I ever said that Broussard wasn't entitled to his opinion.  Did I say that anywhere?

You said: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible. Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

This was in a comment about the Broussard story. Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America. That's why I accused you (rightly) of beating up a strawman. You yourself acknowledge that Broussard is entitled to his opinion, so what's your beef with him?
 
2013-04-30 10:23:47 AM  

Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.


Why would you berate Collins like that?

For everyone that is saying you can be a Christian and not follow their rules: religions are like country clubs. They don't have to let you in and they can kick you out if you don't follow their rules, no matter how stupid a rule might be.
 
2013-04-30 10:25:53 AM  

Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.

You know, self-identified Christians back in the medieval era used to think that engaging in any kind of sexual activity, even exclusively procreative sexual activity with a spouse, was a sin that infinitely distanced you from the pure and uncorrupted God. They believed that the only way to be a devout follower of Christ was to be completely chaste and celibate because that's what God and Jesus are. Were these people not Real Christians™?


Thanks for the made up history lesson. People in medieval days who didn't believe the bible weren't Christians anymore than people today who don't believe the bible.
 
2013-04-30 10:31:39 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Let's ask Chris about working on the Sabbath (they do still play games on The Lord's Day, correct?), turning the other cheek (which happens ALL the time when the benches clear, right?), casting the first stone (which admittedly, this wasn't - just Broussard being an idiot) or any of a hundred other things mentioned many multiples of times and in less-uncertain language than teh ghey.

Actually, Chris - how do you feel about the ~half of the NBA that has illegitimate kids? Are they also not Christian? You wanna take some time and call them ALLLLLL out by name, like you did with JColl? How about the ones with rap sheets longer than their stat sheets?

Oh, just teh ghey is a problem? Well, go sit on a railroad spike, buddy.


To be fair to Chris, his rant did mention premarital heterosexual sex as also wrong and unchristian.

I think your general view is valid overall and I am not sure why other evangelicals take a hard line against homosexuality but not other sexual sins (by hard line I mean not only opposing it on moral grounds but attacking and demeaning those who practice it).
 
2013-04-30 10:39:20 AM  

DmGdDawg: Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.

You know, self-identified Christians back in the medieval era used to think that engaging in any kind of sexual activity, even exclusively procreative sexual activity with a spouse, was a sin that infinitely distanced you from the pure and uncorrupted God. They believed that the only way to be a devout follower of Christ was to be completely chaste and celibate because that's what God and Jesus are. Were these people not Real Christians™?

Thanks for the made up history lesson. People in medieval days who didn't believe the bible weren't Christians anymore than people today who don't believe the bible.


How do you know they didn't believe the Bible (whatever the Hell that means)? How do you know that any specific person living today who claims to be a Christian doesn't really believe the Bible?

Let's go with an extreme example: Westboro Baptist Church. The church and its members self-identify as Christian. They consistently cite passages from the Bible during their protests. Their amicus curiae brief in support of DOMA for the case US v. Windsor lists several passages from the Bible in their table of authorities. Yet I'm not sure I know any other self-identified Christians who think they're even remotely sane, let alone Christian. My uncle (a Catholic priest for 40+ years) commented that he has absolutely no idea what part of the Bible can be used as a defense of their gross behavior.

So, who judges whether somebody is actually a Christian?
 
2013-04-30 10:54:44 AM  
Serious Black:
So, who judges whether somebody is actually a Christian?

Clearly, it's DmGdDawg.  Duh.  I'm pretty sure that's in the Bible.
 
2013-04-30 10:58:04 AM  

Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.

You know, self-identified Christians back in the medieval era used to think that engaging in any kind of sexual activity, even exclusively procreative sexual activity with a spouse, was a sin that infinitely distanced you from the pure and uncorrupted God. They believed that the only way to be a devout follower of Christ was to be completely chaste and celibate because that's what God and Jesus are. Were these people not Real Christians™?

Thanks for the made up history lesson. People in medieval days who didn't believe the bible weren't Christians anymore than people today who don't believe the bible.

How do you know they didn't believe the Bible (whatever the Hell that means)? How do you know that any specific person living today who claims to be a Christian doesn't really believe the Bible?

Let's go with an extreme example: Westboro Baptist Church. The church and its members self-identify as Christian. They consistently cite passages from the Bible during their protests. ...


God will ultimately judge. Sure, there are people who claim to believe the bible who really don't. There are people like that in every church and even in may pulpits. The bible warns against such people and there are certainly warning signs, but only God knows someone's heart.

However, if someone plainly states that they don't believe the bible it isn't difficult to know that they aren't really saved. That includes the people from Westboro, not because of their abhorrent "protests", but because they preach false doctrine about salvation. They don't teach salvation by faith in Christ alone, they teach that you must also live a certain way. That's called works salvation and is the opposite of the genuine gospel.

That's not to say that every Christian has a perfect understanding of the bible. Most Christians (even genuine born-again believers) don't study the bible and often they go to really weak churches. It's common for believers to be mixed up on some doctrine because of ignorance. However, a genuine believer will believe when shown what the bible says. I don't mean that Christians will always live morally upright lives; the bible is filled with examples of saved people who did a lot of bad things. David committed murder and adultery, for example. But an authentic Christian, when shown a biblical truth, won't simply refuse to believe it to be true. David, for example, never claimed murder and adultery were A-OK, he just failed to live up to God's standard. In that situation, he was a hypocrite and God's prophet called him out as such. But David didn't bow up and claim that what he did was a good thing, he confessed and sought mercy from God for his sin. That is vastly different from people who simply reject the bible's clear teaching about certain sins because it doesn't align with their world view.
 
2013-04-30 10:59:41 AM  
DmGdDawg:
God will ultimately judge.

Yeah, of course, but I mean, you've got a pretty good idea though, right?  Eh?  AMIRITE? /nudge nudge, wink wink

/douche
 
2013-04-30 11:06:00 AM  

tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg:
God will ultimately judge.

Yeah, of course, but I mean, you've got a pretty good idea though, right?  Eh?  AMIRITE? /nudge nudge, wink wink

/douche


I know for a certainty the standard which God will use to judge. God didn't hide the ball:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18
 
2013-04-30 11:10:02 AM  
But wait....  so you know which people believe in God and which ones don't?  I thought that you were just saying that not everyone who says they were Christians were "real Christians" by your definition?  Sounds to me like the only requirement is believing in God, not "abstain thyself from the ass of other men."

Look, anyone who claims to have the monopoly on the truth is either selling something or looking for excuses to hate.  I respect your right to believe what you like, but claiming to have the entire pie of Christianity is horse-patootie.  Christianity runs a wide river from conservatives like yourself to liberals like the Unitarians.  There's a lot of middle ground.  And if your only criteria is believing in Jesus, you gotta open that tent a little wider, son.
 
2013-04-30 11:21:22 AM  

DmGdDawg: Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Serious Black: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

It goes beyond stupidity.  Even the most intellectually damaged human being can grasp the concept of free will.  Christians just can't, and yet they think they are worth listening to.

Way to beat up that straw man!

I haven't heard anyone say Jason Collins shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. He came out as gay and was received, for the most part, positively by the public. Broussard didn't say Collins should be put in prison or castrated. He said that engaging in homosexual (or premarital heterosexual) sex is a sin. Broussard having an opinion you don't agree with isn't the same as you being "obligated to live in accordance with the bible." Free will doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and everyone has to approve of it. Lots of things are morally wrong but not illegal.

You know, self-identified Christians back in the medieval era used to think that engaging in any kind of sexual activity, even exclusively procreative sexual activity with a spouse, was a sin that infinitely distanced you from the pure and uncorrupted God. They believed that the only way to be a devout follower of Christ was to be completely chaste and celibate because that's what God and Jesus are. Were these people not Real Christians™?

Thanks for the made up history lesson. People in medieval days who didn't believe the bible weren't Christians anymore than people today who don't believe the bible.

How do you know they didn't believe the Bible (whatever the Hell that means)? How do you know that any specific person living today who claims to be a Christian doesn't really believe the Bible?

Let's go with an extreme example: Westboro Baptist Church. The church and its members self-identify as Christian. They consistently cite passages from the Bible during ...

God will ultimately judge. Sure, there are people who claim to believe the bible who really don't. There are people like that in every church and even in may pulpits. The bible warns against such people and there are certainly warning signs, but only God knows someone's heart.


That's exactly my point (and the point I think several others are trying to make as well). Presuming that an omnipotent God really does exist and that God judges all people upon their death as worthy of spending eternity in Heaven, God is going to be the one who decides. Not you. Not me. Not anyone else who has ever lived or ever will live. Not any holy book that has inevitably been tainted by human hands. Assuming that your religion is correct and every other religion is incorrect is one of the most bombastic, pompous, and arrogant beliefs you can ever hold.
 
2013-04-30 11:27:12 AM  

DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.


Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?
 
2013-04-30 11:36:30 AM  

Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?


Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?
 
2013-04-30 11:40:18 AM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?


Wow.

Okay, that's it.  We're all done here.
 
2013-04-30 11:41:54 AM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?


WTF?!?

Is that supposed to be...  I don't know...  witty or something?
 Anyway, when you lash out like this, it does mean that you have nothing better to say, and you simply won't admit that you're wrong.  Which, you know, is childish, but oh, so VERY Christian.
 
2013-04-30 11:48:04 AM  

Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?

WTF?!?

Is that supposed to be...  I don't know...  witty or something?
 Anyway, when you lash out like this, it does mean that you have nothing better to say, and you simply won't admit that you're wrong.  Which, you know, is childish, but oh, so VERY Christian.


LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

If you don't want to see people's opinion that differs from your own then don't read public comment sections on fark.I haven't called anyone a douche. I don't care that you guys disagree with me. It's pretty funny how hypocritical you "open minded" folks are, lol.
 
2013-04-30 11:52:24 AM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?

WTF?!?

Is that supposed to be...  I don't know...  witty or something?
 Anyway, when you lash out like this, it does mean that you have nothing better to say, and you simply won't admit that you're wrong.  Which, you know, is childish, but oh, so VERY Christian.

LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

If you don't want to see people's opinion that differs from your own then don't read public comment sections on fark.I haven't called anyone a douche. I don't care that you guys disagree with me. It's pretty funny how hypocritical you "open minded" folks are, lol.


Yes, I called you a douche.  I never claimed to be open-minded though.  I respect your worship of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or whatever, right up to the point that it gives you the authority to judge other people, which you just stated a few posts ago is the entire point.

I am done with you.  You've stated that the only point in your belief system is judging and condemning, so you have said everything for me.  Enjoy your "religion" and justification for your hate, judgment and condemnation.  I'm going to go back to hanging out with "Christians" who believe that the basis of their religion (that you have stated you don't recognize) is love.

Don't worry, I will ask them to pray for you.
 
2013-04-30 11:56:28 AM  
Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?

boom

Well, that's what the left does. It's what makes them superior to all. Then they tell us all how much.

All this for a scrub that has sat on the bench for six teams, and knows he needs some kind of boost to get another contract. Which, he will, with Stern on the phone to everybody demanding someone step up.

And the guy will be elevated to all-time level now by the media. Yay, media.

Now, every team in every league will be expected to have a gay player who's out and all flag wavey about it. Those that don't will be forced to. Yay, America.

Now, applaud it all or get branded as someone with a mental issue. phobic

I just want my teams to win. I couldn't care less who's gay or whatever. Of course, not caring is an insult to the pc crowd. You're supposed to care.
 
2013-04-30 11:59:15 AM  

DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?


....yet you don't see the irony in making this statement now do you?
 
2013-04-30 12:01:47 PM  

DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?


Oh my!!!  Look at HOW persecuted YOU are!

And yes.  You ARE judgmental.  As a Christian, it's who you are, and when you scrutinize the antics of your fellow human beings in accordance to your holy book, it's pretty much ALL you are.
 
2013-04-30 12:11:34 PM  

Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

Oh my!!!  Look at HOW persecuted YOU are!

And yes.  You ARE judgmental.  As a Christian, it's who you are, and when you scrutinize the antics of your fellow human beings in accordance to your holy book, it's pretty much ALL you are.


Everyone is judgmental. Anyone who claims he isn't is a liar. Won't let the convicted child molester babysit your children? Judgmental! Voted for Obama instead of McCain? Judgmental! Don't like it when people talk on cell phones during movies? Judgmental!

You apparently judge it to be a terrible thing that Broussard believes homosexuality is wrong. I judge it to be fine and actually agree with him. I judge the bible to be true and authoritative. You judge is to be non-authoritative. Nothing in the world wrong with being judgmental. I don't pretend that all beliefs are equally right, and I reject the notion that people who reject that bible are Christians. I respect people's right to disagree with me and haven't been hateful about it, you just don't like what I have said. I'm comfortable with that.
 
2013-04-30 12:12:13 PM  

Rwa2play: DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

....yet you don't see the irony in making this statement now do you?


Um, no.
 
2013-04-30 12:20:47 PM  

Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

Oh my!!!  Look at HOW persecuted YOU are!

And yes.  You ARE judgmental.  As a Christian, it's who you are, and when you scrutinize the antics of your fellow human beings in accordance to your holy book, it's pretty much ALL you are.


But aren't you judging him. And I guess that I'm judging you. And now someone will judge me.

//nooooooooo!
///it is funny that someone disparages someone else for declaring themselves judge, thereby taking the role of judge themselves.
 
2013-04-30 12:26:32 PM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

Oh my!!!  Look at HOW persecuted YOU are!

And yes.  You ARE judgmental.  As a Christian, it's who you are, and when you scrutinize the antics of your fellow human beings in accordance to your holy book, it's pretty much ALL you are.

Everyone is judgmental. Anyone who claims he isn't is a liar. Won't let the convicted child molester babysit your children? Judgmental! Voted for Obama instead of McCain? Judgmental! Don't like it when people talk on cell phones during movies? Judgmental!

You apparently judge it to be a terrible thing that Broussard believes homosexuality is wrong. I judge it to be fine and actually agree with him. I judge the bible to be true and authoritative. You judge is to be non-authoritative. Nothing in the world wrong with being judgmental. I don't pretend that all beliefs are equally right, and I reject the notion that people who reject that bible are Christians. I respect people's right to disagree with me and haven't been hateful about it, you just don't like what I have said. I'm comfortable with that.


Yes, we all make judgments.  No, not all Christians look at judgment as the entire basis of their religion.

I don't give a rip what Broussard believes.  I don't even really care what he says.  However, he's pretty dumb if he thinks there won't be consequences to saying that while at work.

The basis of Christianity is love, not judgment.  People like you give the other billion Christians in the world (the bulk of which you don't accept as Christians) a bad name in much the same way the Muslim fundamentalist terrorists give the religion of Islam a bad name.
 
2013-04-30 12:27:20 PM  

DmGdDawg: Rwa2play: DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

....yet you don't see the irony in making this statement now do you?

Um, no.


Thought so.

It's nice when someone uses God (or the concept of a spiritual being) to project their own insecurities.
 
2013-04-30 12:27:23 PM  

DmGdDawg: Rwa2play: DmGdDawg: LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

....yet you don't see the irony in making this statement now do you?

Um, no.


Oh, and you are still a douche.
 
2013-04-30 12:29:51 PM  

Opiate of the Lasses: The Flexecutioner: collins was right in thinking a lot of guys wouldn't think he was gay.  not many of his shots were particularly swishy.

Wanna single this one out for some love. Made me snert.


thanks. i knew this thread would go one of 2 ways: lots of double entendres and game terminology or religious/troll posts.  i was a little surprised there weren't many of the former though.
 
2013-04-30 12:36:02 PM  

The Flexecutioner: Opiate of the Lasses: The Flexecutioner: collins was right in thinking a lot of guys wouldn't think he was gay.  not many of his shots were particularly swishy.

Wanna single this one out for some love. Made me snert.

thanks. i knew this thread would go one of 2 ways: lots of double entendres and game terminology or religious/troll posts.  i was a little surprised there weren't many of the former though.


Would have been a lot more fun, I can tell you that.

Basketball entendtre:

Man-to-man
Penetrate the hole
Drive and dish (?)
Hand Check (?)
Three Second Violation

etc...  please feel free to add
 
2013-04-30 12:36:09 PM  
Vodka Zombie
2013-04-30 08:57:58 AM


No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?

They don't. In fact one of them simply pointed out someone isn't one of them and you kids got all butt hurt *apt term if there ever was one* over it.

Why do atheists allow themselves to get tied up in such knots over it? If someone tells me I'll never to Atlantis or Middle Earth, I'd laugh and walk away.
 
2013-04-30 12:36:51 PM  
... I'll never get to...

*sigh*
 
2013-04-30 12:39:21 PM  
God is a fiction. Your religion is stupid and irrelevant.
 
2013-04-30 12:43:31 PM  

OnlyM3: Vodka Zombie
2013-04-30 08:57:58 AM


No one in America is required or obligated to live in accordance with the Bible.

Why do Christians have such a hard time understanding this simple, simple thing?
They don't. In fact one of them simply pointed out someone isn't one of them and you kids got all butt hurt *apt term if there ever was one* over it.

Why do atheists allow themselves to get tied up in such knots over it? If someone tells me I'll never to Atlantis or Middle Earth, I'd laugh and walk away.


Actually, my issue was with a certain someone making narrow-minded statements in the name of all of Christianity, which is just asinine.  There are many Christians that are quite welcome to homosexuals, and I know many very devout gays and lesbians who have leadership roles in their church.  My point was that statements like the ones made by DmGdDawg only further the perception that Christianity is nothing but old white bigots.

In fact, I think I'm going to start making statements about what All White People think.  I'm sure I will be right and there won't be any dissension from my view.

Personally, I'm not concerned with getting to heaven or Atlantis.  But as an academic student of religion, it really chaps my hide when one fark-tard speaks the loudest and gets to paint with a broad brush.  As I said up-thread, Islam suffers the same fate when fundamentalist Muslims act in very public ways that are not in accordance with their beliefs.

DmGdDawg makes the world a sadder place.  That is my point.

Oh, and he's a douche.
 
2013-04-30 12:44:43 PM  

tacos4jesus: The Flexecutioner: Opiate of the Lasses: The Flexecutioner: collins was right in thinking a lot of guys wouldn't think he was gay.  not many of his shots were particularly swishy.

Wanna single this one out for some love. Made me snert.

thanks. i knew this thread would go one of 2 ways: lots of double entendres and game terminology or religious/troll posts.  i was a little surprised there weren't many of the former though.

Would have been a lot more fun, I can tell you that.

Basketball entendtre:

Man-to-man
Penetrate the hole
Drive and dish (?)
Hand Check (?)
Three Second Violation

etc...  please feel free to add


flopping, taking it to the rim, ball handling skills, give-and-go, back court, triple-double, etc.

but just once, if he becomes a court-side announcer, i'd love to hear him say "I'm Jason Collins for ESPN.  Back to Dick and Hubie."
 
2013-04-30 12:45:12 PM  

DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?

WTF?!?

Is that supposed to be...  I don't know...  witty or something?
 Anyway, when you lash out like this, it does mean that you have nothing better to say, and you simply won't admit that you're wrong.  Which, you know, is childish, but oh, so VERY Christian.

LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

If you don't want to see people's opinion that differs from your own then don't read public comment sections on fark.I haven't called anyone a douche. I don't care that you guys disagree with me. It's pretty funny how hypocritical you "open minded" folks are, lol.


Look.  Everyone in this thread is waiting for you to comment on wearing mixed fabrics.  Don't just say we're not Christians for asking about it.
 
2013-04-30 12:48:14 PM  

tacos4jesus: DmGdDawg makes the world a sadder place.  That is my point.

Oh, and he's a douche.


Nah, I just see him (and the likes of him) as a sad little individual who uses the concept of a supreme being to project their own mental shortcomings.
 
2013-04-30 12:48:52 PM  

Dafatone: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?

WTF?!?

Is that supposed to be...  I don't know...  witty or something?
 Anyway, when you lash out like this, it does mean that you have nothing better to say, and you simply won't admit that you're wrong.  Which, you know, is childish, but oh, so VERY Christian.

LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

If you don't want to see people's opinion that differs from your own then don't read public comment sections on fark.I haven't called anyone a douche. I don't care that you guys disagree with me. It's pretty funny how hypocritical you "open minded" folks are, lol.

Look.  Everyone in this thread is waiting for you to comment on wearing mixed fabrics.  Don't just say we're not Christians for asking about it.


It's clearly just another basis for his favorite part of Christianity...  the judging!  woot.

You are waiting for him to mention mixed fabrics.  I am waiting for him to respond to my comparison to Muslim terrorists who distort their teachings so they can be judge jury and executioner.
 
2013-04-30 12:50:37 PM  

tacos4jesus: Dafatone: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Vodka Zombie: DmGdDawg: Who is this mythical Christian you speak of that is saying that people in America are "required or obligate to live in accordance with the Bible."? I don't know any Christian, myself included, who thinks that or even suggested that. Saying "homosexuality is a sin" isn't the same as saying people shouldn't be allowed to be homosexuals in America.

Then why say it if not to judge and condemn?

Is it just to make you feel "morally superior" and remind everyone how right you think you are as you cower and hide your petty ignorance and hatred behind your precious holy book?

Why worry about what I believe if not to judge and condemn?

WTF?!?

Is that supposed to be...  I don't know...  witty or something?
 Anyway, when you lash out like this, it does mean that you have nothing better to say, and you simply won't admit that you're wrong.  Which, you know, is childish, but oh, so VERY Christian.

LOL, seriously? I express an opinion on a public comment forum about the topic of the comment forum and I'm being "judgmental." Then, you bash my God and my faith and it's not judgmental?

If you don't want to see people's opinion that differs from your own then don't read public comment sections on fark.I haven't called anyone a douche. I don't care that you guys disagree with me. It's pretty funny how hypocritical you "open minded" folks are, lol.

Look.  Everyone in this thread is waiting for you to comment on wearing mixed fabrics.  Don't just say we're not Christians for asking about it.

It's clearly just another basis for his favorite part of Christianity...  the judging!  woot.

You are waiting for him to mention mixed fabrics.  I am waiting for him to respond to my comparison to Muslim terrorists who distort their teachings so they can be judge jury and executioner.


But that can be sidestepped with a simple "Well, the bible is right and other religions are wrong because I said so."  There's no way around mixed fabrics.  He's been asked about them.
 
2013-04-30 01:22:19 PM  
Goddamit Christians.. why can't you just follow the most basic part of your religion?  Be good people.  Love your neighbors.  Don't judge.

Jesus said a whole bunch of cool shiat that you guys refuse to listen to.  I don't know Jesus's view on the gays (oh, wait you don't either because it isn't ever mentioned in the gospels) so I'll just go with the "golden rule" and treat everyone with respect
 
2013-04-30 01:29:50 PM  
velvet_fog:
Sometimes I wish this was Reddit

watch your mouth.
 
2013-04-30 01:58:16 PM  

rynthetyn: Anyone else suspect that this was ESPN  yet  again manufacturing controversy? They had to have known what he was going to say  but they put him on anyway to make themselves part of the story.


Boom. Whitlock is a tard most of the time, but he's right about First Take. They know who they're pandering to, the barbershop crowd. It's by design.
 
2013-04-30 02:52:59 PM  

Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: But at least be academically honest about what it says.

Oh I'm honest about what it says. You didn't answer my question because Jesus said neither jot nor tittle about homosexuality. I spent 18 years having the Bible hammered into my skull, watching the adults around me pick & choose which rules they followed while shaming me for daring to ask why they got to pick & choose. But I don't look back on my days in the church with bitterness. I learned a lot of good things, like how Jesus loved everyone, but threw the money changers out of the temple. How he was all, "Hey, you don't have to slaughter goats for my dad any more." And stuff like,"Maybe we shouldn't stone our children to death for misbehaving any more." I mean, he had some really good ideas. Being dickwads to homos isn't in the contract, though. It's none of your business & it's none of Chris Broussard's business. Just let people be & we can all live in harmony. Your faith ends where other people's begins.


I knew I had you favorited for a reason...
 
2013-04-30 03:38:19 PM  

mjbok: Skywolf the Scribbler: Dude, the cool thing about Christianity is that we can have forgiving grace even if we live in sin--after all, nobody's perfect. I sure as hell have some ghastly sin I could tell you all about...

The thing about Christianity is you can't be forgiven for a "sin" if you don't repent and fully intend to do it again.



Ephesians 2:1-10

All people can have assurance of salvation, even I, a perverted cur according to Christians and atheists alike...
 
2013-04-30 03:44:09 PM  

Di Atribe: The rest of us are probably going to have a parade. I like parades.


**farky changed to "super-awesome"**
 
2013-04-30 04:09:52 PM  
Chris Broussard has every right to say what he said as long as ESPN wants to employ him, just as if ESPN wanted to employ somebody who said that Chris Broussard shouldn't be able to marry a white woman or drink from the white mans fountain.
 
2013-04-30 05:16:39 PM  

Di Atribe: DmGdDawg: But at least be academically honest about what it says.

Oh I'm honest about what it says. You didn't answer my question because Jesus said neither jot nor tittle about homosexuality. I spent 18 years having the Bible hammered into my skull, watching the adults around me pick & choose which rules they followed while shaming me for daring to ask why they got to pick & choose. But I don't look back on my days in the church with bitterness. I learned a lot of good things, like how Jesus loved everyone, but threw the money changers out of the temple. How he was all, "Hey, you don't have to slaughter goats for my dad any more." And stuff like,"Maybe we shouldn't stone our children to death for misbehaving any more." I mean, he had some really good ideas. Being dickwads to homos isn't in the contract, though. It's none of your business & it's none of Chris Broussard's business. Just let people be & we can all live in harmony. Your faith ends where other people's begins.


Labelled as "Smart" and THAT's why you're a yellow on my favs list

/Yellow = The very best Farkers.
 
2013-04-30 06:55:26 PM  

rubertidom: you're pretty green now.


stir22: **farky changed to "super-awesome"**


Rwa2play: Labelled as "Smart" and THAT's why you're a yellow on my favs list

/Yellow = The very best Farkers


OH YOU GUYS you stop that I'm blushing.

i.imgur.com

I'm kidding, of course. Keep going. ;)


/thanks
//gotta live up to the name somehow
 
2013-04-30 07:07:06 PM  

OnlyM3: Why do atheists allow themselves to get tied up in such knots over it? If someone tells me I'll never to Atlantis or Middle Earth, I'd laugh and walk away.


...and if they say "Oh, and I have a highly effective lobby that's working towards the ultimate goal of having everyone who will never go to Atlantis or Middle Earth executed", what would you say then?

/Because the same evangelical Christians who condemn this guy do have that goal.  And they've supported plans to implement such punishments in places like Ghana.
 
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