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2013-04-30 05:59:57 AM

Fano: milsorgen: Lionel Mandrake: Italy and Tunisia signed a peace treaty in the 1980s...officially ending the Punic Wars

But when will Carthage receive reparations!?

I have plenty of salt for their wounds.


Too soon, man.
 
2013-04-30 07:10:46 AM
Where almost the entire world was at war during WWII including countries that was pretty much in it only on paper, It wouldnt surprise me if there was some countries still at war on paper.
 
2013-04-30 08:15:10 AM

sendtodave: TheMysteriousStranger: The hostilities were formally ended on the Missouri -- Japan surrendered to the Allies which includes the Russians.  This is just settling some of the mess leftover.

Pff, nice try, troll.  As if commies were ever the America's  allies.


Okay, not sure if serious.
Anyway this ordeal stems from an issue that also played into the hostilities between the USSR and the US.  Russia felt they should've gotten much more of Japan.  The US kept them from getting the main islands.  The whole Russia fought Japan on mainland Asia while we fought the island front, they wanted an equal share of the islands.  It really pissed them off when we gave the main islands back to the Japanese.  Which a lot of Americans felt the same way, except giving it over to the commies part.
 
2013-04-30 09:41:33 AM
This is the kind of thing that happens surprisingly often, yet nobody really pays attention to it in the U.S. Usually, it's because somebody declared war, then when the war ended, their government was no longer in existence to sign a peace treaty (or didn't show up at the peace conference). I think that happened to a couple of the Soviet states, where they were an independent country before WW2, but never signed a peace treaty because they became part of the USSR or some other larger country. And speaking of WW2, there wasn't a unified Germany to sign a treaty with after the war ended, so technically WW2 didn't end until the 90s.

Also, IIRC, the Dutch were still at war with the Isles of Scilly as recently as the 1980s, going all the way back to the English Civil War (Cromwell). That's over 300 years, more or less.
 
2013-04-30 11:42:05 AM

Red Shirt Blues: talan123: Omahawg: not terribly surprising. Japan's defeat of russia in '05 signaled there was a new player on the block and the czar's days were numbered.

bitter feelings die hard, with a vengeance.

The new player burned themselves out rather quickly then.

No...I think that was Curtis Lemay.


And J. Robert Oppenheimer.
 
2013-04-30 12:12:15 PM
I smell a porn movie in the works!
 
2013-04-30 12:42:57 PM

Starry Heavens: bionicjoe: I'm a WWII buff, but I don't get this crap.

The basic idea is that the Kuril Islands are useful not because of their land mass (they're tiny), but because the nation that owns them owns the shipping lanes around them. Both Russia and Japan would like to own that stretch of ocean.


They have some mineral wealth, too - metal ores and probably oil. There's a similar issue with the Spratly Islands, which a mountain goat would have trouble balancing on but which are claimed by at least six countries. Lots of seemingly insignificant bits of rock and mud turn out to be incredibly valuable when people take a closer look at them, and that's when these arguments start flaring up.
 
2013-04-30 04:48:49 PM

Sum Guye: Skyrmion: Lionel Mandrake: Italy and Tunisia signed a peace treaty in the 1980s...officially ending the Punic Wars

Do you have a citation for that? You've got me curious, but my Google-fu isn't finding anything.

http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1985/Rome-and-Carthage-Sign-Peace-Treat y- Ending-Punic-Wars-After-2-131-Years/id-9b6f6f5ba5be2408ff0502c7fb8abd5 b


Interesting, thanks.
 
2013-04-30 11:25:08 PM

sheep snorter: shiat. They were best buds near the end of WW2 and were in the process of making a peace treaty to end the war, but then some country dropped two nukes on Japan to get their arm held high as the victor and its spoils.

/And thus the cold war began.


Nope.
 
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