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2013-04-29 03:05:44 PM
*Obvious tag*
 
2013-04-29 03:15:05 PM
To be fair, big news day: The #7 seed in the NBA playoffs got swept, and a backup quarterback got released.
 
2013-04-29 03:15:20 PM
If ESPN doesn't break the story, it's not news. Duh.
 
2013-04-29 03:15:29 PM
Two weeks ago they got praise for their Marathon bombing coverage, focusing on the real story (the injured) while the main networks did nothing but speculate who did what.

Yeah...good way of throwing out all that good will, ESPN.
 
2013-04-29 03:18:17 PM
On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.
 
2013-04-29 03:18:58 PM
ZOMG TIM TIBBOW
 
2013-04-29 03:22:43 PM

NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.


I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.
 
2013-04-29 03:25:54 PM

seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.


That's a-bingo.

Of course, if Tebow came out, even if it was in SI, ESPN would not step away from breaking news coverage until it got on-camera reactions from every NFL player and Gator alum in the nation.
 
2013-04-29 03:26:15 PM

seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.


Exactly. But yes, I wish Tim Tebow would come out, just to watch so many sports blogs' servers go nuclear.
 
2013-04-29 03:28:04 PM

downstairs: To be fair, big news day: The #7 seed in the NBA playoffs got swept, and a backup quarterback got released.


And there's still hundreds of hours of NFL draft analysis to broadcast.
 
2013-04-29 03:29:13 PM

seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.


Agreed. I'm just saying we could look at it like that. I think the fact that it was a 35-year-old vet who's essentially a free-agent second center made it easier for ESPN to say, "Meh." Not trying to negate the import of this, but I think we can agree that had it been a guy still under contract that was a starter or a 6th or 7th man, ESPN runs that story first, Tebow be damned. At least, I'd like to think ESPN still has a modicum of journalistic integrity. Could be wrong on that. There's an equally good chance this story doesn't make Pg 1 of the NYT, either, FWIW.
 
2013-04-29 03:34:50 PM

seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story (Tebow coming out), we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.


If ESPN had that story, the primetime special would have been called "The Orientation" and it would have consisted of two hours and 55 minutes of time-wasting, highlight reels, and advertising before Tebow finally revealed to Jim Gray that "this is very tough... this fall I'm taking my penis to the south entrance... I feel like I can compete down there."
 
2013-04-29 03:39:25 PM
If Tebow came out, Skip Bayless wouldn't even be in the studio.
 
2013-04-29 03:41:05 PM

NakedReporta: seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Agreed. I'm just saying we could look at it like that. I think the fact that it was a 35-year-old vet who's essentially a free-agent second center made it easier for ESPN to say, "Meh." Not trying to negate the import of this, but I think we can agree that had it been a guy still under contract that was a starter or a 6th or 7th man, ESPN runs that story first, Tebow be damned. At least, I'd like to think ESPN still has a modicum of journalistic integrity. Could be wrong on that. There's an equally good chance this story doesn't make Pg 1 of the NYT, either, FWIW.


35 y/o journeyman > Tebow
 
2013-04-29 03:43:25 PM
We could conflate the 2 stories.  Something along the lines of:

Poor Jason Collins.  I'm sure he could have been a perfectly good heterosexual if only some girl had given him an actual chance.
 
2013-04-29 03:43:37 PM
I don't see the big deal. When I turned on ESPN today the Collins story happened to be the first thing I saw, followed by a Tebow takedown. ESPN during the day is like HLN. It whips through all the stories you need to know and repeats them ad nauseum. They're not going to have some circlejerk panel discussion like the news networks.
 
2013-04-29 03:51:27 PM
Butt fumble? Whaaaaaa?
 
2013-04-29 03:52:28 PM

seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.


How is it a non-event? They're covering it to the point of nausea right now. On all of their channels.

I'm supposed to believe it was a deliberate effort to hide the story because they didn't completely rework all their programming immediately...they waited all of about 15 minutes before over covering it to death?

They're doing a pretty shiatty job of covering it as a non-event now, seeing as how it is scrolling in the bottom line every 30 seconds and being discussed by all of their talking heads.

Personally, I think in a day or so I will be longing for ESPN or Fox or whoever the Fark to be spending a bit less time on this story and more time on actual sports. I guess I just don't have the poutrage available to be sad ESPN took 15 minutes too long before it made this story the focus of the sports world.
 
2013-04-29 03:53:35 PM

NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?


A 3rd-string QB being released is even less of a big deal.
 
2013-04-29 03:54:03 PM
Interestingly, Rush Limbaugh had more coverage of this story than either of the sports talk stations in town.

Can't decide if that's good or bad...
 
2013-04-29 03:54:36 PM
I'm not big on ESPN hate like so,e, but goddamn do I agree that Skip Bayless is an ass. Stephen A is at least entertaining. Bayless has no redeeming qualities.

Aikman should have punched him out when he had the chance.
 
2013-04-29 03:58:58 PM
So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?
 
2013-04-29 03:59:41 PM

fastbow: Interestingly, Rush Limbaugh had more coverage of this story than either of the sports talk stations in town.

Can't decide if that's good or bad...


Here the focus on local radio is on why the Nuggets suck.  Which is how it should be.

/of course it isn't how it is - the first guy to come out of the closet is a big frickin' deal
 
2013-04-29 04:03:26 PM

js34603: seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

How is it a non-event? They're covering it to the point of nausea right now. On all of their channels.

I'm supposed to believe it was a deliberate effort to hide the story because they didn't completely rework all their programming immediately...they waited all of about 15 minutes before over covering it to death?

They're doing a pretty shiatty job of covering it as a non-event now, seeing as how it is scrolling in the bottom line every 30 seconds and being discussed by all of their talking heads.

Personally, I think in a day or so I will be longing for ESPN or Fox or whoever the Fark to be spending a bit less time on this story and more time on actual sports. I guess I just don't have the poutrage available to be sad ESPN took 15 minutes too long before it made this story the focus of the sports world.


Network takes heat for not jumping on the story ---> suddenly it's everywhere on said network. Weird.
 
2013-04-29 04:03:50 PM

robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?


He should've been canned for being a failure at his job a long time ago. This just adds fuel to that.
 
2013-04-29 04:04:09 PM

seventypercent: seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story (Tebow coming out), we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

If ESPN had that story, the primetime special would have been called "The Orientation" and it would have consisted of two hours and 55 minutes of time-wasting, highlight reels, and advertising before Tebow finally revealed to Jim Gray that "this is very tough... this fall I'm taking my penis to the south entrance... I feel like I can compete down there."


I actually meant if they had broken the Collins story.
 
2013-04-29 04:05:13 PM

desertgeek: robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?

He should've been canned for being a failure at his job a long time ago. This just adds fuel to that.


I think it's absolutely ridiculous for Broussard to bring up his own religion in any story.
 
2013-04-29 04:05:59 PM

seumasokelly: desertgeek: robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?

He should've been canned for being a failure at his job a long time ago. This just adds fuel to that.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for Broussard to bring up his own religion in any story.


It's just like, what was the thought there?  "Boy howdy, I don't need this job anyway!"
 
2013-04-29 04:10:30 PM
Suck it, hockey
 
2013-04-29 04:13:22 PM

seumasokelly: I think it's absolutely ridiculous for Broussard to bring up his own religion in any story.


I think we saw one of the reasons why ESPN is more comfortable sticking to their Tebow babble. One of their most "prized" NBA analysts isn't exactly equipped to speak about a societal issue that is now the real lead story in the sporting world.
 
2013-04-29 04:13:28 PM

Tiberius Gracchus: NakedReporta: seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Agreed. I'm just saying we could look at it like that. I think the fact that it was a 35-year-old vet who's essentially a free-agent second center made it easier for ESPN to say, "Meh." Not trying to negate the import of this, but I think we can agree that had it been a guy still under contract that was a starter or a 6th or 7th man, ESPN runs that story first, Tebow be damned. At least, I'd like to think ESPN still has a modicum of journalistic integrity. Could be wrong on that. There's an equally good chance this story doesn't make Pg 1 of the NYT, either, FWIW.

35 y/o journeyman > Tebow


QFT!
 
2013-04-29 04:13:43 PM

Trocadero: seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Exactly. But yes, I wish Tim Tebow would come out, just to watch so many sports blogs' servers go nuclear.


No! No! The RW blogs that fellate Tebow like he's the second coming of Unitas because of "TEH JEZUS" would meltdown.  Melt.  Down.
 
2013-04-29 04:14:40 PM

Qellaqan: Tiberius Gracchus: NakedReporta: seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Agreed. I'm just saying we could look at it like that. I think the fact that it was a 35-year-old vet who's essentially a free-agent second center made it easier for ESPN to say, "Meh." Not trying to negate the import of this, but I think we can agree that had it been a guy still under contract that was a starter or a 6th or 7th man, ESPN runs that story first, Tebow be damned. At least, I'd like to think ESPN still has a modicum of journalistic integrity. Could be wrong on that. There's an equally good chance this story doesn't make Pg 1 of the NYT, either, FWIW.

35 y/o journeyman > Tebow

QFT!


Hell, I'll say it:  JaWalrus > Tebow.  At least he gets it in range of the wideout.
 
2013-04-29 04:17:01 PM

robsul82: seumasokelly: desertgeek: robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?

He should've been canned for being a failure at his job a long time ago. This just adds fuel to that.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for Broussard to bring up his own religion in any story.

It's just like, what was the thought there?  "Boy howdy, I don't need this job anyway!"


There's that aspect of it, but I'm not sure that the bigotry issue is the problem I have with him. Sure, we won't be friends and it'd be great if he didn't have a problem with it, but my problem from a professional standpoint is that he's a reporter. It's his job to report the news. He should never be injecting his owbn religious beliefs into a story. I understand if ESPN wants to fire him for besmirching the name and opening them up to criticism based on this, but I think the real reason he should be fired is for being a really shiatty reporter and deciding that his religious beliefs belonged in a story about Jason Collins.
 
2013-04-29 04:18:56 PM
So, why is it a big deal that the dude is gay?  does his sexuality have anything to do with how well he plays the sport?  Is he going to get kicked off the team for liking dudes?

/Teblow being released should be a big deal either.
 
2013-04-29 04:22:42 PM

Rwa2play: Trocadero: seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Exactly. But yes, I wish Tim Tebow would come out, just to watch so many sports blogs' servers go nuclear.

No! No! The RW blogs that fellate Tebow like he's the second coming of Unitas because of "TEH JEZUS" would meltdown.  Melt.  Down.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-04-29 04:23:23 PM

Rwa2play: Qellaqan: Tiberius Gracchus: NakedReporta: seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Agreed. I'm just saying we could look at it like that. I think the fact that it was a 35-year-old vet who's essentially a free-agent second center made it easier for ESPN to say, "Meh." Not trying to negate the import of this, but I think we can agree that had it been a guy still under contract that was a starter or a 6th or 7th man, ESPN runs that story first, Tebow be damned. At least, I'd like to think ESPN still has a modicum of journalistic integrity. Could be wrong on that. There's an equally good chance this story doesn't make Pg 1 of the NYT, either, FWIW.

35 y/o journeyman > Tebow

QFT!

Hell, I'll say it:  JaWalrus > Tebow.  At least he gets it in range of the wideout.


I think it's nice that his insane fan and ESPN contingency makes him nearly unhireable. Who would take a chance on his middling talent when he definitely brings a three ring circus? Maybe the marlins should go after him.
 
2013-04-29 04:25:28 PM

Qellaqan: Rwa2play: Qellaqan: Tiberius Gracchus: NakedReporta: seumasokelly: I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Agreed. I'm just saying we could look at it like that. I think the fact that it was a 35-year-old vet who's essentially a free-agent second center made it easier for ESPN to say, "Meh." Not trying to negate the import of this, but I think we can agree that had it been a guy still under contract that was a starter or a 6th or 7th man, ESPN runs that story first, Tebow be damned. At least, I'd like to think ESPN still has a modicum of journalistic integrity. Could be wrong on that. There's an equally good chance this story doesn't make Pg 1 of the NYT, either, FWIW.

35 y/o journeyman > Tebow

QFT!

Hell, I'll say it:  JaWalrus > Tebow.  At least he gets it in range of the wideout.

I think it's nice that his insane fan and ESPN contingency makes him nearly unhireable. Who would take a chance on his middling talent when he definitely brings a three ring circus? Maybe the marlins should go after him.


And I forgot to note, his antics outcrazied the Jets. The Jets who totally went with "I like feet" Ryan and all the other stuff.
 
2013-04-29 04:25:55 PM

downstairs: To be fair, big news day: The #7 seed in the NBA playoffs got swept, and a backup quarterback got released.


Yanks_RSJ: A 3rd-string QB being released is even less of a big deal.


You're saying it's not as big of a deal as a walk on running back getting released?
 
2013-04-29 04:27:20 PM

ariseatex: Rwa2play: Trocadero: seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

Exactly. But yes, I wish Tim Tebow would come out, just to watch so many sports blogs' servers go nuclear.

No! No! The RW blogs that fellate Tebow like he's the second coming of Unitas because of "TEH JEZUS" would meltdown.  Melt.  Down.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Did I say it was a bad thing? XD
 
2013-04-29 04:27:41 PM

Yanks_RSJ: A 3rd-string QB being released is even less of a big deal.


Agreed. Except for this: Ask 100 people on the street who Tim Tebow is. Now ask the same 100 people if they'd heard of Jason Collins before today.

Caveat: ESPN is a major reason more people know who Tebow is.

All that aside, yes, I agree, ESPN sandbagged the story initially. I was just trying to look at it from a more enlightened perspective, one where being a male pro team athlete who happens to enjoy the company of other men isn't such a big f-ing deal. But you're right, we're not there yet, so it is a big deal.
 
2013-04-29 04:28:21 PM

seumasokelly: robsul82: seumasokelly: desertgeek: robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?

He should've been canned for being a failure at his job a long time ago. This just adds fuel to that.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for Broussard to bring up his own religion in any story.

It's just like, what was the thought there?  "Boy howdy, I don't need this job anyway!"

There's that aspect of it, but I'm not sure that the bigotry issue is the problem I have with him. Sure, we won't be friends and it'd be great if he didn't have a problem with it, but my problem from a professional standpoint is that he's a reporter. It's his job to report the news. He should never be injecting his owbn religious beliefs into a story. I understand if ESPN wants to fire him for besmirching the name and opening them up to criticism based on this, but I think the real reason he should be fired is for being a really shiatty reporter and deciding that his religious beliefs belonged in a story about Jason Collins.


Oh, it's definitely the bigotry with me, it's just that the only way choosing to air his nonsense makes even a modicum of sense is if he ended his preaching with "WILDCARD, BIATCHES!" and dove backwards out of the camera frame.
 
2013-04-29 04:28:32 PM

NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?


Except that it is, because we still have a long way to go.
 
2013-04-29 04:29:09 PM

Yanks_RSJ: A 3rd-string QB being released is even less of a big deal.


3rd-string?  The Jets did have six total quarterbacks, lol.
 
2013-04-29 04:30:51 PM

seumasokelly: js34603: seumasokelly: NakedReporta: On the flip side, we could look at it like this - a 12-year NBA journeyman coming out of the closet isn't that big of a deal. And really, doesn't that say something about how far we've progressed as a society?

Now, if Tebow came out, I think the collective head of ESPN would asplode.

I think that if ESPN had broken the story, we'd have had a 3-hour special in primetime. Since it was SI, it's a non-event.

How is it a non-event? They're covering it to the point of nausea right now. On all of their channels.

I'm supposed to believe it was a deliberate effort to hide the story because they didn't completely rework all their programming immediately...they waited all of about 15 minutes before over covering it to death?

They're doing a pretty shiatty job of covering it as a non-event now, seeing as how it is scrolling in the bottom line every 30 seconds and being discussed by all of their talking heads.

Personally, I think in a day or so I will be longing for ESPN or Fox or whoever the Fark to be spending a bit less time on this story and more time on actual sports. I guess I just don't have the poutrage available to be sad ESPN took 15 minutes too long before it made this story the focus of the sports world.

Network takes heat for not jumping on the story ---> suddenly it's everywhere on said network. Weird.


Seriously? You think they only covered it because of "heat"? "Heat" from who exactly...Deadspin? Stop, I'm laughing so hard my sides hurt.

And how exactly did they feel this heat in the 15 minutes it took for them to start covering the story? I mean really...the story came out at 11 am, by 11:15am Cowherd was talking about it and it was scrolling in the bottom line. So that 15 minutes of "heat" made then start covering a story they were going to ignore?

Isn't it just possible it took 15 whole minutes to get a story that wasn't theirs disseminated to their channels to begin the over coverage?
 
2013-04-29 04:31:14 PM

robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?


What did he do?
 
2013-04-29 04:35:06 PM

robsul82: seumasokelly: robsul82: seumasokelly: desertgeek: robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?

He should've been canned for being a failure at his job a long time ago. This just adds fuel to that.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous for Broussard to bring up his own religion in any story.

It's just like, what was the thought there?  "Boy howdy, I don't need this job anyway!"

There's that aspect of it, but I'm not sure that the bigotry issue is the problem I have with him. Sure, we won't be friends and it'd be great if he didn't have a problem with it, but my problem from a professional standpoint is that he's a reporter. It's his job to report the news. He should never be injecting his owbn religious beliefs into a story. I understand if ESPN wants to fire him for besmirching the name and opening them up to criticism based on this, but I think the real reason he should be fired is for being a really shiatty reporter and deciding that his religious beliefs belonged in a story about Jason Collins.

Oh, it's definitely the bigotry with me, it's just that the only way choosing to air his nonsense makes even a modicum of sense is if he ended his preaching with "WILDCARD, BIATCHES!" and dove backwards out of the camera frame.


I hate the fact that people think the way he does on this issue. HATE IT. But he's entitled to his bullshiat bigoted beliefs. What should get him fored from his job as a reporter is being bad at that and deciding to make himself part of the story he's reporting. I can understand throwing yourself into the story if, for instance, you are a reporter who was injured in the Boston Marathon bombing. Deciding that your religion has any place in a story about someone else's sexual orientation is just being a bad journalist. It just makes it doubly worse that his comments ridiculed Collins. I'd think it was bad reporting were Broussard to have said that his religion accepts all sexual orientations and Collins is right with the Lord in his book. Both are enough to earn him reprimand from the network for being unprofessional and not understanding how his job works.
 
2013-04-29 04:38:49 PM

Qellaqan: robsul82: So Chris Broussard's probably getting fired, eh?

What did he do?


Went on air with his claims that homosexuality is an "open rebellion to God"
 
2013-04-29 04:44:59 PM
For those wondering about Broussard: Link
 
2013-04-29 04:45:15 PM
Skip Bayless - "The world is so fascinated by Tim Tebow"

No.  No we're not.
 
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