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(Lancaster Online)   Man ordered by his township to install a septic tank believed to be about $20,000 but he is happy with his outhouse. "The outhouse ain't bothering anybody and I'm not going to spend that much money to put something in I don't really need"   (lancasteronline.com) divider line 105
    More: Stupid, septic systems, Wilson Huyett, state Department of Environmental Protection, Aaron Kauffroth  
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2013-04-29 10:02:39 PM  

stevejovi: The One True TheDavid:

When he dies take the outhose down and fill in the hole. Till then leave him alone.

So you let one guy foul the groundwater, you have to let EVERYBODY do it. It's only fair, right?


No. You don't.

This presumably is news because very few people in that area use outhouses anymore: the article is written like his is the only one and he's the only one using it. If so leaving him to squeeze out an occasional acorn in peace for the the few years he's got left, and then taking down the outhouse and filling in the hole, will handle the problem.

Sewer and septic systems have definite public health advantages, and most people who have the option prefer indoor plumbing anyway. But in this case, one outhouse for one old coot in the middle of a hog & crop farm won't hurt anything.

If the issue really is an overwhelmingly important major public health threat then for pete's sake they should donate the damn septic tank.
 
2013-04-29 10:26:43 PM  

HiFiGuy: Show of hands: Who here has a septic tank + well water?

/The circle of life is complete.


*raises hand*

On a 45 acre farm no less.  The trick is that you put the drainfield somewhere that isn't right on top of your well.

Probably wouldn't matter, though, the well is 362 feet deep.  By the time the shiatwater would make it down there I'd say it's been pretty well filtered.
 
2013-04-29 10:47:14 PM  

Lsherm: Probably wouldn't matter, though, the well is 362 feet deep.  By the time the shiatwater would make it down there I'd say it's been pretty well filtered.


Let's see if some TFer will find the recent story about water running downhill. Scientists measured viruses in drinking well water which had come from leaking sewage pipes. They were able to track the pulses of different viruses in the two systems.
 
2013-04-30 04:38:37 AM  

stevejovi: thisisarepeat: stevejovi: Anyone who believes that gubbermints and health departments only have septic and sewer requirements as a "cash grab" need only visit India to understand WHY those things are required here. The smell hits you INSTANTLY when they open the plane's door.

Cholera ain't no joke.

Yup 140 acre farms are just like Indian slums.

I never said it was. But if you let this guy get away with it, then why not his neighbors on the 30 acre farm? Everybody in the county? The whole state? Pretty soon, you've got Mumbai. Where do you draw the line? Who gets to decide?

Easier just to make the same rules for everybody, and enforce them for everyone.

/cuz that's what always happens


Easier to do.  Not easier to justify.  People expect justice in this country.  At least in places where the population is so dense as to have 1 person on 140 acres.

He's 77 and shiats in an outhouse, how farking awesome is you're outlet mall that we should fark this old man so you can get richer?
 
2013-04-30 08:34:00 PM  

WelldeadLink: Lsherm: Probably wouldn't matter, though, the well is 362 feet deep.  By the time the shiatwater would make it down there I'd say it's been pretty well filtered.

Let's see if some TFer will find the recent story about water running downhill. Scientists measured viruses in drinking well water which had come from leaking sewage pipes. They were able to track the pulses of different viruses in the two systems.


Yeah, but how far down was the well?  How close were the sewage pipes?  How much sewage flowed out the leak on a continuous basis?  Was the well below a sheet of rock?

Either way, our well is on the high end of the property, the drain field is on the other side of the house on the low end, and everything runs downhill into the river eventually.  Don't put your sewage near your well, and you'll be fine.
 
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