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(USA Today)   You know all those GOP efforts to supress the black vote in 2012? They failed-spectacularly. New data shows that for the first time ever, black voter turn-out rates exceeded those of whites-and provided Obama his entire margin of victory   (usatoday.com) divider line 39
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2013-04-29 12:08:37 PM  
6 votes:

LargeCanine: There was no voter suppression.


i.crackedcdn.com
2013-04-29 11:38:41 AM  
5 votes:
www.usefulidiots.net
2013-04-29 11:50:36 AM  
4 votes:
pre-November GOP: What can we do to suppress the black vote?

post-November GOP: Why do so few black people vote for us?
2013-04-29 11:23:29 AM  
3 votes:
*Nelson laugh*
2013-04-29 12:27:58 PM  
2 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: They only voted for Obama because he was black and because they hate white people

...

Well... who doesn't hate white people?
2013-04-29 12:24:39 PM  
2 votes:
i39.tinypic.com
2013-04-29 12:21:54 PM  
2 votes:
www.yourblackworld.net


Republicans take'n a lick'n? DY-NO-MITE!!!

2013-04-29 12:18:02 PM  
2 votes:
"black voter turn-out rates exceeded those of whites-and provided Obama his entire margin of victory "

So how many times did white voters push the white candidate over the margin of victory in the first 55 presidential elections?
2013-04-29 12:11:10 PM  
2 votes:

Magorn: Nattering Nabob: While giving black people the right to vote *may* have been unwise, I think we can all agree the bigger problem was giving women the right to vote.

You joke but I have seen variants of this argument, being advanced in dead earnest, by the section of the punditariat favored by folks who frequent Free Republic, all the way back to July of last year when Romney was revealed to have a ten point Gender Gap with Obama.

Without the slightest race of a blush, these commentators and columnists explained that women, bless their big hearts and tiny little brains, were hormally incapable of seeing the big picture and voting for the best candidate and the correct fiscal policy, instead, they would always be drawn to the "sugar daddy" candidate who promises to care for them and provide for them the best.  they don't WANT to be moochers, you see, they are just biologically hard-wired that way, so clearly shouldn't be allowed to do something that requires rational, dispassionate thought, like exercising the franchise.


Plus, how can you trust something that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die?

Amirite fellas?
2013-04-29 12:01:10 PM  
2 votes:
While giving black people the right to vote *may* have been unwise, I think we can all agree the bigger problem was giving women the right to vote.
2013-04-29 11:59:16 AM  
2 votes:
This wouldn't happen if the GOP would just reinstate the 3/5 adjustment. Turtle-boy McConnell probably has a draft of the bill on his desk.
2013-04-29 11:59:00 AM  
2 votes:
Saul Alinsky.
2013-04-29 11:57:34 AM  
2 votes:
At times Like this, I know many of my GOP friends like to turn to Scripture for comfort and solace.  May i suggest the following text for their edification

"As Ye sow, So shall ye reap. If you sow the wind, ye shall reap the whirlwind"

or in the modern vernacular of kids these days "your FACE!"
2013-04-29 05:17:23 PM  
1 votes:

someonelse: Yes, I saw that you repeatedly asked whether people SHOULD NEED a high school diploma to vote, and then made the bold statement that you thought it would be neat if everyone had one.


Good. You are all caught up. Anything you wanted to add to the conversation?
2013-04-29 04:49:04 PM  
1 votes:

Dinki: js34603: Well I'm sure those trends will continue when the Dems run a white person in 2016.

Black voter turnout was bigger because the GOP made a concerted effort to suppress the black vote, and the black community knew it. If the GOP makes the same mistake again, the color of the Democratic nominee will be irrelevant.


THIS. The Freepers (and other republicans) are too stupid to have made this mental connection - black people didn't vote for the black guy in 2008 and 2012, the voted for the democrat. A simple examination of voting patterns going back to FDR will prove this.
It will make no difference if the democrat candidate is orange with green spots, if the republicans keep farking up the way they have been, the black vote (and the LGBT vote and the hispanic vote and the female vote and the poor peoples vote and the young peoples vote and the student vote and etc etc etc) will continue to favor the democrats.

Republicans keep trying to change the sack, but it still contains the same old sh*t. The smell gives it away.
2013-04-29 03:32:34 PM  
1 votes:
  What happened is the republicans figured they had the Southern Stratagy on stereoids as the opposition but completely failed to take into account the internet. The started tweeting the dog wistle and their base turned the freq up where everyone could hear it and amplified it so loud that it worried, not just black people, but all the opposition and even some of the party faithful who were not comfortable with that route. It will be interesting to see if the Republican party recovers or  splits over this.

Hypnozombie
/a split would be a bit scary unless the crazy racist got less than 1/3
2013-04-29 02:54:30 PM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: It's not OK to deny someone a right to vote because they don't meet some arbitrary set of standards (knowing when The Brest-Litovsk Treaty was was necessary to graduate; to vote, probably not). I'd like some VERY basic skills tests to be administered - make sure they can read in whatever language, they know who the candidates are, know what a vote is and what it means - but the two hurdles are enforcement and selection (what is "essential information" and what isn't).


I find it cute that you state it is wrong to deny someone a right to vote because they don't meet some arbitrary set of standards, then give some arbitrary set of standards that you would like people to meet before they can vote.
2013-04-29 02:52:29 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: DeArmondVI: Are you seriously suggesting that someone who works for a living and pays taxes, but doesn't have a HS diploma, has no right to a voice in elections?

Wait. Are YOU seriously suggesting that only people who are employed and who pay federal taxes has a right to a voice in the elections?

/see?


BojanglesPaladin: DeArmondVI: Are you seriously suggesting that someone who works for a living and pays taxes, but doesn't have a HS diploma, has no right to a voice in elections?

No. Where did I say any such thing?


BojanglesPaladin: I'm not asking about implementation. Simple question: Is it wrong to want a voter to have at least a high-school education?


So you are just asking questions?

Very stupid questions.
2013-04-29 02:30:32 PM  
1 votes:

Halli: BojanglesPaladin: Magorn: define " a high school education", and who gets to determine what qualfies?

Having recieved a high school diploma certifying completion of a high school education. And the same people who determine it today.

So, is it wrong to want a voter to have at least a high school education?

Because tests or qualifcations for voting have been abused in the past.


Wonder how this would go over if we made this a requirement for firearm ownership. For the lulz.
2013-04-29 02:12:52 PM  
1 votes:

MFAWG: Lionel Mandrake: pre-November GOP: What can we do to suppress the black vote?

post-November GOP: Why do so few black people vote for us?

This. Anybody darker than a caramel qualifies as 'black'.


i.accesshw.com
2013-04-29 12:41:43 PM  
1 votes:

daveUSMC: Does this mean we can stop whining about voter ID now?
I mean everyone. STFU. It's neither the worst thing in the world since 3/5 and hosing off the Undesireables, nor absolutely necessary to protect the sacred rights of both Fartbongolian and Real American PatriotTM Voters. It is a stupid wedge issue with little relevance and negligable pratical impact.


Are you really this ignorant or is this an example of Poe's law?
2013-04-29 12:33:52 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah, it turns out that when you try to openly take away rights from people, they get upset and use those rights more. The more effective tactic is to make them not want to exercise those rights in the first place. See: guns, birth control, etc, etc. 


Half the angry protesters around the country could be cured by letting them onto a stage with a microphone. Ensure the crowd remains silent and simply lets them speak. One at a time. 


/a few comedians have done this to hecklers
//mitch hedburg springs to mind, but there was another who did it even better. Can't think of the name.
2013-04-29 12:32:50 PM  
1 votes:

daveUSMC: Does this mean we can stop whining about voter ID now?
I mean everyone. STFU. It's neither the worst thing in the world since 3/5 and hosing off the Undesireables, nor absolutely necessary to protect the sacred rights of both Fartbongolian and Real American PatriotTM Voters. It is a stupid wedge issue with little relevance and negligable pratical impact.


Yeah those 4 hour lines to vote in Florida are pretty irrelevant.

www.esquire.com
2013-04-29 12:31:36 PM  
1 votes:
They voted for Obama because the Democrat party has committed the most heinous ever act of racism by enabling their dependence on government simply to sustain a voting block. Instead of voting for more economic opportunity (by giving rich people more money to create jobs) they voted for more freebees...more handouts...thus further perpetuating dependence on government which locks them into voting against rich white guys who only want to see them succeed and live prosperous, happy lives free of the public dole, which will instill racial pride in their accomplishment.

THIS is what Republicans really believe...
2013-04-29 12:30:58 PM  
1 votes:

Branch Dravidian: Satanic_Hamster: They only voted for Obama because he was black and because they hate white people...

Well... who doesn't hate white people?


I only hate crackers.
2013-04-29 12:28:29 PM  
1 votes:
Please continue GOP...
2013-04-29 12:26:34 PM  
1 votes:

LargeCanine: There was no voter suppression.


Also: I'm the queen of England.
2013-04-29 12:24:50 PM  
1 votes:
The increased black voter turnout only proves that efforts by conservatives to eliminate voter fraud are not actually attempts at voter suppression, as claimed, and thus that these efforts should be continued and expanded because clearly they will not prevent legitimate voters from casting votes.

/Has that argument yet been put forward by actual "true the vote" advocates?
2013-04-29 12:17:32 PM  
1 votes:
It's because black people are the real racists, and they're oppressing white people now.

Gotta be.
2013-04-29 12:09:45 PM  
1 votes:

Nattering Nabob: While giving black people the right to vote *may* have been unwise, I think we can all agree the bigger problem was giving women the right to vote.


You joke but I have seen variants of this argument, being advanced in dead earnest, by the section of the punditariat favored by folks who frequent Free Republic, all the way back to July of last year when Romney was revealed to have a ten point Gender Gap with Obama.

Without the slightest race of a blush, these commentators and columnists explained that women, bless their big hearts and tiny little brains, were hormally incapable of seeing the big picture and voting for the best candidate and the correct fiscal policy, instead, they would always be drawn to the "sugar daddy" candidate who promises to care for them and provide for them the best.  they don't WANT to be moochers, you see, they are just biologically hard-wired that way, so clearly shouldn't be allowed to do something that requires rational, dispassionate thought, like exercising the franchise.
2013-04-29 12:03:37 PM  
1 votes:
Which means they'll just try harder next time.
2013-04-29 12:02:26 PM  
1 votes:
Good. Fark you GOP, you vote-surpressing fascists. Excellent to see your cunning plan backfired spectacularly.

Oh, and by thethe way, how's that minority outreach going?
2013-04-29 11:57:24 AM  
1 votes:
Can you imagine how many would have voted if we hadn't suppressed them?
2013-04-29 11:57:01 AM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: pre-November GOP: What can we do to suppress the black vote?

post-November GOP: Why do so few black people vote for us?


Romney's reception in North Philly was the best indicator of how many African American votes the GOP could anticipate. None!
2013-04-29 11:54:43 AM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: Diogenes: Amazing what voter fraud can accomplish.

/runs away

actually, despite their best efforts, the GOP voter fraud campaign fell short in 2012.


Thank god they aren't very good at it.  Or rather that we have a system in place that prevents the worst cases of voter abuse.


in before but but that black panther guy!
2013-04-29 11:54:22 AM  
1 votes:
So you are saying that Paul Ryan was right??
2013-04-29 11:35:41 AM  
1 votes:
DAMN YOU ACORN!
2013-04-29 11:33:38 AM  
1 votes:
Looks like we need to purge the voter rolls again.

/and again
//and again
2013-04-29 11:26:18 AM  
1 votes:
Amazing what voter fraud can accomplish.

/runs away
 
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