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5648 clicks; posted to Business » on 29 Apr 2013 at 12:21 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-04-29 01:05:43 PM
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MugzyBrown: Anti-Trust lawsuits.. help us government another business is kicking our ass!


Yeah, this one is rich. Car dealers complaining about monopolies, collusion, exclusivity, etc.... you know, the same car dealers who sue to keep Tesla from selling directly to consumers and who support blue laws preventing dealerships from selling cars on Sunday

But what really sends this one over the top is...

Adding a little bit of spice to the plaintiff's case is the fact that Carfax reports aren't always accurate. Carfax and its competitors rely largely on the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System, a database of insurance claims and other data pulled from 41 states. Vehicle info from other regions can be left out of those reports, resulting in inaccuracies, not unlike the kind recently uncovered on 20/20.

Thank god those paragons of trust, used car dealerships, are concerned about the accuracy of the information being provided to a potential customer.
2013-04-29 12:49:55 PM
2 votes:
Any work not paid for by insurance doesn't show up on Carfax at all.  That's just how it is.  I had an inspection done on a car that turned out to be a former press track car.  Carfax on it was clean.  Inspection showed a replacement engine and that someone had gotten friendly with a rail.  It had been repaired, but not well enough that a trained eye couldn't tell it had been repaired.
2013-04-29 03:38:54 PM
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StrangeQ: Dingleberry Dickwad: whizbangthedirtfarmer:   ...But if I ever go to sell one of them, it will look on paper they haven't had so much as an oil change for the entire time I've owned them.  It's just another case of an artificial requirement created to funnel money away from consumers.


Or you could keep a spreadsheet (or a paper log) with two columns date and maintenance done, who the hell would go to the trouble to forge info like that?  Keep receipts for the big stuff (You need the receipts for tires and batteries for their long warranties anyways).
2013-04-29 03:15:44 PM
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Dingleberry Dickwad: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 1) Carfax doesn't tell me diddly, really.  It will tell me where the car's origin is, and track its sales history.  It will tell me if a claim has been put in for flooding.  That's about it.

2) Every time I've gone to the dealer, they've practically shoved the Carfax report in my hand before I've driven it.  They love it because it seems to enhance their credibility.

\hoping wife's 02 Elantra holds out for a few more years
\\can't stand car shopping

If you bring your car to a reputable shop for repairs, those will often be reported as well. So do oil changes at some places if you bring them in. If it's not a car that's been brought to some shade tree mechanic, or had done all the repairs themselves there'll be a moderately decent record of what the car has been through.


Which is what makes it bullshiat in a way.

I do all the maintenance on my cars.  One, because I trust myself more than some minimum wage wrench monkey, two, because it is less expensive in the long run, and three, because I enjoy it.  But if I ever go to sell one of them, it will look on paper they haven't had so much as an oil change for the entire time I've owned them.  It's just another case of an artificial requirement created to funnel money away from consumers.
2013-04-29 02:54:20 PM
1 votes:
For me the carfax report is worth it. I just bought a 2010 Honda Accord with low miles on it. The carfax showed that the recommended routine maint was performed on the car which tells me the previous owner at least attempted to take care of the car and not just drove it into the ground. You know the type... Oil changes? What is that? I just keep pouring more in as needed.
2013-04-29 02:07:20 PM
1 votes:
The thing is, what does and doesn't show up on a Carfax report is pretty random, making the whole process useless.  If it were mandated for all repair shops and had an over 99% reporting rate, it would be of some use.  As it is, it's just one more tool for the car industry to screw suckers.
2013-04-29 01:50:18 PM
1 votes:

FullMetalPanda: Do they offer CarFax for women?  I want to know what I'm getting into...



Not for $16.95. You'll have to spend a little more to know whats really going on in there. For women, I suggest alcohol. You may also want to get a second opinion from her second or third best friend (not first). A little up-front investment can really let you know whats going on under the hood. 

For cars, I suggest a good mechanic, local, not franchised. Talk to your neighbors about where they go. Have the mechanic check everything out.  A little up-front investment can really let you know whats going on under the hood.
2013-04-29 12:38:33 PM
1 votes:
Anti-Trust lawsuits.. help us government another business is kicking our ass!
 
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