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(Politico)   Tom Brokaw: The idea behind journalism, you water-carrying hacks, is to afflict the comfortable - not schmooze them while taking advantage of the open bar. WHORES, ALL OF YOU. WHORES   (politico.com) divider line 53
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2013-04-29 08:20:48 AM
So is it now a deliberate part of Fark's growth strategy to actively seek out stories from 2 or 3 days ago and greenlight them after redlighting all the submissions for that same story that posted on the day it was actually published? Because that's, like, brilliant. Or something. Brilliant or something, I'm not sure.
 
2013-04-29 08:26:09 AM
Somebody remind Tom of the idea behind journalism next Sunday, when he makes his usual appearance on NBC's Hot Tea and Conversation with Grampa John McCain, featuring Chuck Todd.
 
2013-04-29 08:37:27 AM
wow - tom brokaw and sarah palin agree on something.  was there temporal incursion?  i crave chocolate milk.
 
2013-04-29 08:37:30 AM
Didn't he regularly attend this?
 
2013-04-29 08:39:59 AM

Pocket Ninja: So is it now a deliberate part of Fark's growth strategy to actively seek out stories from 2 or 3 days ago and greenlight them after redlighting all the submissions for that same story that posted on the day it was actually published? Because that's, like, brilliant. Or something. Brilliant or something, I'm not sure.


I'm positive it's either brilliant, or something.
 
2013-04-29 08:41:31 AM
I'm betting on "something."
 
2013-04-29 08:54:43 AM
Well, at least most of the celebrities who attend are aware of the issues.  Lohan's not aware of what year it is.
 
2013-04-29 09:00:13 AM
What kind of image do we present to the rest of the country? Are we doing their business, or are we just a group of narcissists who are mostly interested in elevating our own profiles?' And what comes through the screen on C-SPAN that night is the latter, and not the former."

It is a valid point.  It might be time to rethink the definition of journalism when the likes of Glen Beck and Kos Moulitsas can practice political activism while posing as jounalist.
 
2013-04-29 09:01:39 AM

minoridiot: It might be time to rethink the definition of journalism when the likes of Glen Beck and Kos Moulitsas can practice political activism while posing as jounalist.


I hope you didn't pull anything stretching that far out just to make a "both sides" point.
 
2013-04-29 09:17:15 AM
Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".
 
2013-04-29 09:20:01 AM
What's important here is Politico is reporting on the controversy, not the merits of Brokaw's point.
 
2013-04-29 09:23:00 AM

Pocket Ninja: So is it now a deliberate part of Fark's growth strategy to actively seek out stories from 2 or 3 days ago and greenlight them after redlighting all the submissions for that same story that posted on the day it was actually published? Because that's, like, brilliant. Or something. Brilliant or something, I'm not sure.


This probably wouldn't have been greenlighted at all if Brokaw hadn't joined the Sarah Palin "assclown" brigade.
 
2013-04-29 09:23:18 AM
Craven social climbing ass clowns.
 
2013-04-29 09:23:59 AM
More importantly, is he ready for the after-party?
 
2013-04-29 09:24:38 AM

Politico has 5 pages of articles on the Correspondents' Dinner. I counted 90 separate pieces. Not kidding. NINETY. #journalism

- Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman1) April 29, 2013
 
2013-04-29 09:26:49 AM

lilbjorn: Pocket Ninja: So is it now a deliberate part of Fark's growth strategy to actively seek out stories from 2 or 3 days ago and greenlight them after redlighting all the submissions for that same story that posted on the day it was actually published? Because that's, like, brilliant. Or something. Brilliant or something, I'm not sure.

This probably wouldn't have been greenlighted at all if Brokaw hadn't joined the Sarah Palin "assclown" brigade.


Sometimes stories get missed.  I too submitted on this subject a few days ago.  I doubt there is a conspiracy at play.  More likely it was alcohol.
 
2013-04-29 09:29:39 AM
Mr. Brockaw doesn't like the press schmoozing with the political elite?  Below, the 'Most Trusted Man in America' yucks it up with the West Wing.  Plus ça change.

www.cah.utexas.edu

(President Ronald Reagan, CBS news anchor Walter Cronkite, presidential aides Jim Brady and David Gergen, Attorney General Ed Meese, Vice President George Bush, White House Chief of Staff James Baker and CBS Producer Bud Benjamin.)
 
2013-04-29 09:33:26 AM

lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".


They did a lot of amazing things...parenting just wasn't one of them.

/and it in no way absolves the Boomers from their blame
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-29 09:33:29 AM
www.blogher.com
 
2013-04-29 09:35:43 AM
That's funny. From his Morning Joe appearances, I thought the idea behind journalism was to afflict the elderly by crusading for Social Security cuts.
 
2013-04-29 09:36:00 AM
FTA: "I get that," Brokaw said. "Claire Danes is not someone I'm talking about. She's a big deal. And you can bring in George Clooney, he loves to come there. He's a serious guy in Hollywood. But it's gone down-market, in my judgment, in too many ways."

You know...going on a rant about celebrities and how the little people view you as a snob, then saying "but we should only have the big deal celebs" does not make you seem very credible. Just because you don't want your fellow journalists to rub elbows with Lindsay Lohan doesn't give you the right to pick and choose celebrities.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-29 09:36:40 AM

UNC_Samurai: lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".


He didn't call the baby boomers the greatest generation, he called the PARENTS of the baby boomers were the greatest generation... the people that won WWII.

The baby boomers shat over the entire country. They're no where near the greatest.
 
2013-04-29 09:41:27 AM

d23: UNC_Samurai: lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".

He didn't call the baby boomers the greatest generation, he called the PARENTS of the baby boomers were the greatest generation... the people that won WWII.

The baby boomers shat over the entire country. They're no where near the greatest.



Hmmm...
 
2013-04-29 09:42:16 AM

d23: UNC_Samurai: lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".

He didn't call the baby boomers the greatest generation, he called the PARENTS of the baby boomers were the greatest generation... the people that won WWII.

The baby boomers shat over the entire country. They're no where near the greatest.


Hence my comment.
 
2013-04-29 09:43:26 AM
So if I work my butt off to become comfortable it's journalism's job to put me back in a miserable state? Excuse me when I take a pool cue to journalism's head, then. You've declared yourself my enemy, so have at you, sir.
 
2013-04-29 09:47:06 AM
The Fourth Estate is looking more and more like a bunch of groupies.
 
2013-04-29 09:50:13 AM

lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers fought WWII "The Greatest Generation".

 
2013-04-29 09:53:23 AM

I_C_Weener: The Fourth Estate is looking more and more like a bunch of groupies.


It was ever always thus.

They were just a lot better at hiding it before because they could protect themselves before journalism became something any idiot with a computer could perform.
 
2013-04-29 09:53:27 AM

lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".


Well, they may have been a great generation.....they just turned out to be, apparently, really crappy parents.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-29 09:54:56 AM
got excited. sooory.
 
2013-04-29 10:01:25 AM
pffft...politico...brokaw....complaining to politico about politicos....instead of his usual MSNBC.

Not that I disagree with Tom, but he has a bit of ground to make up before playing the medial outrage card.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-29 10:02:06 AM
"You see, back when our country was racist, exclusionary, treated every other nation like dirt, wasn't well educated, segregated, and raised a generation of entitled, middle class brats who spent their lives shiatting in the nation's mouth, those were the best Americans ever made," he said. "So we might as well pack the country up, we're done here."
 
2013-04-29 10:07:41 AM

minoridiot: What kind of image do we present to the rest of the country? Are we doing their business, or are we just a group of narcissists who are mostly interested in elevating our own profiles?' And what comes through the screen on C-SPAN that night is the latter, and not the former."

It is a valid point.  It might be time to rethink the definition of journalism when the likes of Glen Beck and Kos Moulitsas can practice political activism while posing as jounalist.


You are so right. Tom Brokaw's comments about the narcissism of the Correspondents Dinner were spot on because of two people who did not attend and were not invited. What amazing insight you have.
 
2013-04-29 10:53:02 AM

minoridiot: It is a valid point. It might be time to rethink the definition of journalism when the likes of Glen Beck and Kos Moulitsas can practice political activism while posing as jounalist.


Do either of them pose as journalists?  I was under the impression both of them fairly loathed 'traditional' journalists and media.  At any rate, were either of them even invited to the dinner?
 
2013-04-29 11:02:23 AM

I_C_Weener: lilbjorn: Pocket Ninja: So is it now a deliberate part of Fark's growth strategy to actively seek out stories from 2 or 3 days ago and greenlight them after redlighting all the submissions for that same story that posted on the day it was actually published? Because that's, like, brilliant. Or something. Brilliant or something, I'm not sure.

This probably wouldn't have been greenlighted at all if Brokaw hadn't joined the Sarah Palin "assclown" brigade.

Sometimes stories get missed.  I too submitted on this subject a few days ago.  I doubt there is a conspiracy at play.  More likely it was alcohol.


Well the alcohol is a given.  I'm just saying the story probably didn't make it through the haze until Palin's "assclown" remark.  Basically I think we agree.  No conspiracy.
 
2013-04-29 11:25:26 AM

I_C_Weener: The Fourth Estate is looking more and more like a bunch of groupies.


Call me when something like this happens.

media.salon.com
 
2013-04-29 11:47:38 AM

UNC_Samurai: lilbjorn: Tom Brokaw - The guy who called the people who raised the Baby Boomers "The Greatest Generation".

They did a lot of amazing things...parenting just wasn't one of them.

/and it in no way absolves the Boomers from their blame


I hope I will live long enough to see history's verdict on the Baby Boomers and GWB.  This is my favorite topic on which to expend my mental energy.
 
2013-04-29 12:04:23 PM

I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?


He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.
 
2013-04-29 12:15:20 PM

Nabb1: I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?

He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.


Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.
 
2013-04-29 12:18:35 PM
Back in the day, journalists were often skeptical war vets who got their stories by burning shoe leather. It occurs to me that the decline in journalism started requiring journalism degrees to get entry jobs. Perhaps the profession would benefit by accepting people with an interest and passion - people retiring from other professions or successful folk who want a change, for example.
 
2013-04-29 12:22:23 PM
Geez Tom, it's just a farking dinner
 
2013-04-29 12:52:27 PM

mrshowrules: Nabb1: I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?

He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.

Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.


No way. It was Colbert back in 2006. All Obama did was be president and have a sense of humor at the same time.
 
2013-04-29 01:08:35 PM

thurstonxhowell: mrshowrules: Nabb1: I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?

He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.

Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.

No way. It was Colbert back in 2006. All Obama did was be president and have a sense of humor at the same time.


Colbert eviscerating Bush was entertaining no doubt (delicious even) but the pomp and ceremony that evolved around a President who was enjoying/working the event is 100% Obama.
 
2013-04-29 01:40:45 PM

mrshowrules: Nabb1: I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?

He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.

Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.


No, I'm pretty sure Colbert did in 2006. or maybe Bob Frickin Hope in 1944

Performers
1944    Bob Hope, Fritz Kreisler, Gracie Fields, tenor Pedro Bargas, Fred Waring, Elsie Janis, Ed Gardiner, Nan Merriman, Robert Merrill, and NBC musical director Frank Black with a 40-piece orchestra.
1945    Frank Sinatra, Danny Thomas, Jimmy Durante, Fanny Brice, Danny Kaye, and Garry Moore shared hosting duties.
1953    Bob Hope
1954    Milton Berle; The Four Step Brothers; Jaye P. Morgan; The McGuire Sisters; Irving Berlin performed an original song, "I Still Like Ike," to honor President Eisenhower.
1956    James Cagney emceed; Nat King Cole, Patti Page, and Dizzy Gillespie performed.
1961    The Peiro Brothers (jugglers), Julie London, Dorothy Provine, violinist Mischa Elman, opera singer Jerome Hines
1962    Peter Sellers, Gwen Verdon, Richard Goodman, and Benny Goodman shared hosting duties.
1963    Merv Griffin emceed; Barbra Streisand performed.
1964    Duke Ellington, the Smothers Brothers
1968    Richard Pryor
1969    The Disneyland Golden Horseshoe Revue
1975    Danny Thomas
1976    Bob Hope emceed and Chevy Chase performed. When President Ford rose to speak, he pretended to fumble, and began his speech with "Good evening. I'm Gerald Ford and you're not" a reference to Chase's catchphrase from Weekend Update.
1983    Mark Russell
1984    Rich Little
1987    Jay Leno
1988    Yakov Smirnoff
1989    Jim Morris (Bush impersonator),with a surprise appearance by Garry Shandling
1990    Jim Morris
1991    Sinbad
1992    Paula Poundstone became the first solo female host.
1993    Elayne Boosler. This was the first year that the dinner was televised on C-SPAN.
1994    Al Franken
1995    Conan O'Brien
1996    Al Franken
1997    Jon Stewart hosted; Norm MacDonald delivered a "Weekend Update" parody.
1998    Ray Romano
1999    Aretha Franklin performed; NBC's Brian Williams performed a skit
2000    Jay Leno hosted. Outgoing President Bill Clinton also mocked himself in the short film President Clinton: The Final Days, which depicted him as a lonely man closing down a nearly deserted White House, riding a bicycle, and learning about the Internet with the help of actor Mike Maronna.
2001    Darrell Hammond
2002    Drew Carey
2003    Ray Charles performed. President George W. Bush decided to eschew a comedian that year, given the recent declaration of war in Iraq.
2004    Jay Leno
2005    Cedric the Entertainer, plus some jokes by First Lady Laura Bush.
2006    Stephen Colbert performed his television satire of a right-wing cable television pundit. Several of Bush's aides and supporters walked out during Colbert's speech, and one former aide said that the President had "that look that he's ready to blow.". Steve Bridges also performed a Bush impersonation.
2007    Rich Little hosted; David Letterman appeared by video with a Top 10 list of "favorite George W. Bush moments."
2008    Craig Ferguson
2009    Wanda Sykes
2010    Jay Leno hosted for the fourth time, more than any other individual in the dinner's history. Leno had been chosen several weeks before his controversial Tonight Show conflict, and his use of recycled jokes was noted by critics.
2011    Seth Meyers
2012    Jimmy Kimmel
2013    Conan O'Brien
 
2013-04-29 01:46:35 PM

GardenWeasel: Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.

No, I'm pretty sure Colbert did in 2006. or maybe Bob Frickin Hope in 1944


The celebrities in the audience are like a who's who of popular culture.  Perhaps the resurgence is bringing it back to earlier times but I still maintain that Obama's cool factor and that he enjoys it so much, is why it is a big deal today.
 
2013-04-29 01:51:28 PM
I'm glad that Tom wiped the icicle from his nose at about the 7 and 1/2 minute mark. I was expecting him to the lick it away.
 
2013-04-29 01:52:53 PM

mrshowrules: thurstonxhowell: mrshowrules: Nabb1: I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?

He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.

Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.

No way. It was Colbert back in 2006. All Obama did was be president and have a sense of humor at the same time.

Colbert eviscerating Bush was entertaining no doubt (delicious even) but the pomp and ceremony that evolved around a President who was enjoying/working the event is 100% Obama.


Agreed. He was getting too good at it. That's why Fox News brought Lindsey Lohan and Kim Kardashian last year. Like bringing a prostitute to the wedding when one of your parents gets remarried, it's their way of saying, "You're not my real President! I hate you!"
 
2013-04-29 01:58:02 PM

Wendy's Chili: mrshowrules: thurstonxhowell: mrshowrules: Nabb1: I_C_Weener: Didn't he regularly attend this?

He's complaining about how over the top it has become.  It wasn't always the media event is now.  I remember when it would get passing mention in the newspaper.  Now the morning news shows run clips of it.  I expect Joan Rivers and a red carpet to show up in the near future.

Obama nailing Trump is what made this a big event.  Obama made it the event what it is.

No way. It was Colbert back in 2006. All Obama did was be president and have a sense of humor at the same time.

Colbert eviscerating Bush was entertaining no doubt (delicious even) but the pomp and ceremony that evolved around a President who was enjoying/working the event is 100% Obama.

Agreed. He was getting too good at it. That's why Fox News brought Lindsey Lohan and Kim Kardashian last year. Like bringing a prostitute to the wedding when one of your parents gets remarried, it's their way of saying, "You're not my real President! I hate you!"


LOL.
 
2013-04-29 02:57:44 PM

GardenWeasel: 2010 Jay Leno hosted for the fourth time, more than any other individual in the dinner's history. Leno had been chosen several weeks before his controversial Tonight Show conflict, and his use of recycled jokes was noted by critics.


Leno recycled jokes?! So, all those jokes about Monica Lewinsky and the deal with airline food wasn't specifically written for the dinner?
 
2013-04-29 04:02:50 PM

dittybopper: Pocket Ninja: ...
I'm positive it's either brilliant, or something.


Nah, that's just a run-of-the-mill false dichotomy
 
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