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2013-04-29 12:36:53 PM  
When you die.. you die. That's it. Lights out. Maybe whatever your last few moments of conscious thought were will remain somehow with you for what feels like eternity.. maybe. So, try to make them nice. Other than that... there's no guy with a book judging you. There's no Bespin looking cloud city, nor any Mustaffar looking volcano planet. Just blackness, unconsciousness, nothingness and decay.

It sucks. I wish there were more. I wish there were reward for the just and punishment for the wicked, but it certainly seems unlikely.
 
2013-04-29 12:38:37 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: WhoopAssWayne: Ah yes, another enlightening thread with the fark teenaged atheists.

[imageshack.us image 287x312]

Don't worry - it's just a stage. Once you grow up a little more, you'll get over it.

I'll grow up to be like you?


The horror!
 
2013-04-29 12:40:34 PM  
Which of these is the better person?

1. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and tries to help me?
2. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and does nothing for fear of being labeled a "dick"?
 
2013-04-29 12:41:07 PM  

Bondith: I'm just going to say that I will never understand this line of thinking and leave it at that, because from here on out it'll just be a thread full of arguing without any sort of resolution.


I understand it, I just got to the point where I got tired of talking to a dead line. Interestingly enough, the psychology says that even if you know there's no one listening, you feel emotionally better after prayer.

// prayer - in the form of words - takes the place of the sacrifices of antiquity
 
2013-04-29 12:43:11 PM  

nmemkha: MayoSlather: There are lots of Christian types in this thread that are attempting to pull the "I'm a rational christian, not like this crazy guy." thing. And to that I say no, no you're not. You are just as batshiat.

We could care less what you think. You have more right to condemn our beliefs than we yours.

Go fark yourself you intolerant assbag.


Intolerance? Look everyone, a Christian is going to give us a lesson in intolerance.

Fark your fairy tales and the ignorant destruction they bring. Truth condemning lies is not intolerance.
 
2013-04-29 12:50:00 PM  
Coincidentally, I had two ladies I suspect were JW's ring my doorbell while I was reading TFA.

I didn't answer.
 
2013-04-29 12:50:17 PM  

alowishus: Which of these is the better person?

1. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and tries to help me?
2. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and does nothing for fear of being labeled a "dick"?


You know what #1 really is?  A Christian who believes they won't get to heaven unless they try to help you.
 
2013-04-29 12:51:02 PM  
non-girlfriend.com

Y'all are slipping
 
2013-04-29 12:52:13 PM  

mcgreggers99: Scorn should be expected if one claims to be his follower.



This is absolutely true, if you believe in ridiculous, patently false, absurd nonsense, you should expect to be ridiculed by rational human beings.
 
2013-04-29 12:55:34 PM  
As I read that blog article I just got the sense of putting on more and more coats until what I was wearing was so heavy and binding that I couldn't do anything anymore.

Why does believing in a god require so much effort?
 
2013-04-29 12:55:46 PM  

Tommy Moo: Ned Stark: This is why I don't like moderate religious people. You think I'm going to hell for all eternity to face unimaginable torture because I haven't done something as simple as accepting Jesus and you aren't gonna be at least a little pushy about it? Well screw you Jack. Ill talk to someone who hives a damn.

This.

There's really no good way to practice any religion with a message of exclusive salvation.


Unitarian Theology wishes to have a word with you, thought obviously they won't be pushy about.
spirit.uchicago.edu

Obviously these are the kinds of "mushy" faiths that Fundamentalists like to denounce as Satan's Handpuppets, but non-exclusionary religions are hardly uncommon.

I'm also reminded of the This American Life episode about the evangelical preacher who came to reject the concept of Hell, and how his church reacted. It's fascinating stuff.
 
2013-04-29 12:57:17 PM  

nmemkha: MayoSlather: There are lots of Christian types in this thread that are attempting to pull the "I'm a rational christian, not like this crazy guy." thing. And to that I say no, no you're not. You are just as batshiat.

We could care less what you think. You have more right to condemn our beliefs than we yours.

Go fark yourself you intolerant assbag.


It seems like Jesus would be totally cool with this statement.
 
2013-04-29 12:57:32 PM  

alowishus: Which of these is the better person?

1. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and tries to help me?
2. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and does nothing for fear of being labeled a "dick"?



The second.  His irrational fears are his own problem, and I am not interested in having him share that problem with me.  Thanks for asking!
 
2013-04-29 12:58:42 PM  

Hickory-smoked: Tommy Moo:


You know, I just realized you said "with" instead of "without."

Ignore me.
 
2013-04-29 01:01:42 PM  
A year ago I was sent a bible thumper to work with. Ive worked with several people from many relgions and have gotten along with em well enough. The only ones I havent got on with are the ones that shove their religion in your face.  From about day one she was asking me what church I and the others we worked with belonged to she would ask me to give my definintion of words like judgement or ask me what it would take for me to be happy (that was fun because she was pretty much shocked by the answer) but after a while messing with her got old so I nipped it in the bud. I asked her if she had ever heard that talking about religion/politics in the workplace was pretty much an unwritten no no, the convo went kinda like this after I said that:

Biblethumper: Jesus is everywhere at all times and its my job to help soread the word blahblah blah (my eyes glazed over at this point and I was thinking about asian porn I think)
Groppet: Well last time I check Jesus wasent on payroll here and if he was here we would be making a lot more money.
Biblethumper: (blank look mouth open thought she was in a coma then he rbrain rebooted) I have no answer for that.
Groppet: Welcome to hell.
Biblethumper: (shocked) Thats not funny!
Groppet: Dont care get back to work or call HR. (walks away)

Once I almost had to send her home because her brother left their church because he got tired of funding their missions to Belieze. And she was on full meltdown, it was jsut scary she was on her phone talking with her brother about how he needed the church because he was the the body of it and needed the guidence from the pastor. After a while I told her to either get back to work or go home. she hung up and then started giving me an exorcism I think about the love of God and church. I shoulda told her why I left the church that woulda curled her toes.
She has calmed down a lot over the year and in August she goes back to good ole Liberty U.
 
2013-04-29 01:02:08 PM  
This guy really doesn't think like your average fundie. From a blog entry about a bombing in Afghanistan: Link

"Christians are supposed to be the ones who "live in this world" but are not "of this world."

One of the ways this plays out is we don't allow ourselves to become trapped by an American-centric worldview.
- We recognize that God is not an American.
- We recognize that God isn't "on our side" in military conflicts any more than any other country.
- We recognize that America's role isn't any more special in the world than Belize or Ghana.
- We recognize that as Christians we have much more in common with Iraqi, North Korean, and Iranian Christians
than the non-Christian working in the cubicle next to us."
 
2013-04-29 01:02:22 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Ah yes, another enlightening thread with the fark teenaged atheists.

[imageshack.us image 287x312]

Don't worry - it's just a stage. Once you grow up a little more, you'll get over it.


Condescending prick.
 
2013-04-29 01:02:43 PM  
Egoy3k:

Any 'history' text the mentions Jesus existing is not 'non-religion'.   I'm not saying he didn't exist only that there is zero historical information to back it up and most historians tend to try and avoid making shiat up.

Ah.  All of the public schools I went to which consisted of every school I ever went to, never bother to say that.  Though one principal had colorful opinions about the student body president who informed the press that there "Would be prayer at graduation" forcing the city school board and school staff to accept it.  By the time they found out the whole city was in the know and 4 different tv stations were calling to ask where to set up.
 
2013-04-29 01:04:04 PM  

havocmike: When you die.. you die. That's it. Lights out. Maybe whatever your last few moments of conscious thought were will remain somehow with you for what feels like eternity.. maybe. So, try to make them nice. Other than that... there's no guy with a book judging you. There's no Bespin looking cloud city, nor any Mustaffar looking volcano planet. Just blackness, unconsciousness, nothingness and decay.

It sucks. I wish there were more. I wish there were reward for the just and punishment for the wicked, but it certainly seems unlikely.


Well I'm sure a lot of the farkheads I'd like to yell at and punch should I see them in the afterlife will be happy about that.
 
2013-04-29 01:05:15 PM  

ReverendJasen: alowishus: Which of these is the better person?

1. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and tries to help me?
2. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and does nothing for fear of being labeled a "dick"?

You know what #1 really is?  A Christian who believes they won't get to heaven unless they try to help you.


No that's number 3.  a lot of #1 don't think they'll go to hell if they don't meet a quota.
 
2013-04-29 01:06:21 PM  

FloydA: alowishus: Which of these is the better person?

1. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and tries to help me?
2. A Christian that believes I'm going to suffer for eternity, and does nothing for fear of being labeled a "dick"?


The second.  His irrational fears are his own problem, and I am not interested in having him share that problem with me.  Thanks for asking!


And since it is #2, he never would share it with you. Since only #2 has that problem which he will never walk up and share about.
 
2013-04-29 01:11:15 PM  
Atheism is a Religion.
 
2013-04-29 01:11:21 PM  
www.maniacworld.com

11. Eat a praying mantis for Jesus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-IN_lsMgmM
 
2013-04-29 01:16:16 PM  
Honestly I don't mind when somebody tries to 'save' me. It doesn't happen often and I don't go out of my way to be rude in my assessment of their views. I don't go out of my way to be polite either. I simply tell them that I simply don't believe their story and I haven't seen any evidence that has convinced me. If they have a problem with this and want to argue then I might be upset but most people are generally polite.
 
2013-04-29 01:18:31 PM  

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


I see you're going with the "everyone places their faith in something" or "everyone worships something" line of thought.

I'm with ya. Better grab a flame shield real quick though just in case....

i498.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-29 01:19:54 PM  

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


Again with the conspiracy creation that's become a standard mantra
 
2013-04-29 01:20:20 PM  

mcgreggers99: I see you're going with the "everyone places their faith in something" or "everyone worships something" line of thought.


He is just a simpleton that has been posting those exact 4 words over and over for literally years. And yes, I am using the correct definition of "literally".
 
2013-04-29 01:26:58 PM  
Let's see...  Either I spend an eternity suffering in hell, or I spend an eternity in Heaven with Jesus and THOSE assholes?

Tough choice, I guess.
 
2013-04-29 01:29:40 PM  

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


True. I'm irreligious: I believe nothing.
 
2013-04-29 01:29:59 PM  

MayoSlather: nmemkha: MayoSlather: There are lots of Christian types in this thread that are attempting to pull the "I'm a rational christian, not like this crazy guy." thing. And to that I say no, no you're not. You are just as batshiat.

We could care less what you think. You have more right to condemn our beliefs than we yours.

Go fark yourself you intolerant assbag.

Intolerance? Look everyone, a Christian is going to give us a lesson in intolerance.

Fark your fairy tales and the ignorant destruction they bring. Truth condemning lies is not intolerance.


If you act in the very manner you claim to hate in believers how are you any better? Because you think you right? Gee where have we heard that before? That and $5 will be you a cup of coffee these days.
 
2013-04-29 01:34:03 PM  

megarian: I May Be Crazy But...: Queensowntalia: WhoopAssWayne: Ah yes, another enlightening thread with the fark teenaged atheists.

[imageshack.us image 287x312]

Don't worry - it's just a stage. Once you grow up a little more, you'll get over it.

Don't be silly. We don't have time to sit around debating Christianity. We're much too busy eating babies.

/Sriracha goes well

Oh, you're one of THOSE sorts of atheist, you worthless piece of trash.

Everyone knows the right choice is Tabasco.

/I want a schism all my own.

Frank's Red Hot.

I put that shiat on everything.


www.hotsaucefever.com
 
2013-04-29 01:39:03 PM  

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.


I see I am not needed ITT. 7.89/10 one point deducted for brevity.
 
2013-04-29 01:41:08 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Ah yes, another enlightening thread with the fark teenaged atheists.

[imageshack.us image 287x312]

Don't worry - it's just a stage. Once you grow up a little more, you'll get over it.


I'm 42. When can I expect to grow out of my non-belief?

Oh wait, I'm guessing it's right around the time I'm diagnosed with a terminal illness, or laid out on my death bed.
 
2013-04-29 01:46:48 PM  

imfallen_angel: Follow these four things and you should be ok, religious or not.

1) don't be a dick
2) don't be a dick
3) don't be a dick
and finally the big #4) don't be a dick

This includes not judging others for the beliefs (or lack of), and in general, you could probably simplify it to a single item: don't be a dick.

Problem is, most fail # 1 and 2 almost right away, some manage those, but then fail at 3 and/or 4.


+lots

in all its iterations ... 'don't be a wanker' ... 'don't be a c*nt' ... 'don't be just an observer' *imp*
 
2013-04-29 01:50:44 PM  

abfalter: Repo Man: It really is astonishing to me that anyone can believe in the concept of a place of never ending torment. A place that a "loving god" condemns you to for the most trivial reasons.


I am not a believer but if I did there is no way that I would worship a god that would punish you for an infinite amount of torment for a finite number of sins.

I would not worship a god that is supposed to be all powerful yet allows such torment to exist.

I would fear such a being.  I might even obey it, out of fear.  But I would not love it.


This is a huge part of what drove me away from Christianity and into Paganism. I believe in a Deity, but I believe in an ultimate  parent, not an abusive shiatstain like that god. I definitely don't believe that a religion that causes that much personal and social harm is one that's created by any god. There's a lot of guilt-tripping that goes on in Catholicism, but while I was converting to Paganism, I realized that, if the Christian doctrines were right, well, I'd go to Hell proud that I'd chosen to believe that the ultimate power was good and loving. Maybe not the smartest choice, but it was the only one I could live with.

/Which is one way to get rid of pseudo-brainwashing, I guess...
 
2013-04-29 01:52:07 PM  

MayoSlather: And this is why atheists should go full douche on religion. These people need to be openly mocked and ridiculed of for their wild imaginations just like alien abduction and Sasquatch believers.


Yeah, they openly mocked and ridiculed Noah too.
 
2013-04-29 01:56:53 PM  
If Heaven is filled with douchbags like this guy and Hell is filled with awesome guys like Freddie Mercury, NPH, and Carl Sagen, then I'm pretty sure I know where I'd rather end up.

/can't go to Hell since I don't believe in it....
 
2013-04-29 01:58:25 PM  

nmemkha: MayoSlather: nmemkha: MayoSlather: There are lots of Christian types in this thread that are attempting to pull the "I'm a rational christian, not like this crazy guy." thing. And to that I say no, no you're not. You are just as batshiat.

We could care less what you think. You have more right to condemn our beliefs than we yours.

Go fark yourself you intolerant assbag.

Intolerance? Look everyone, a Christian is going to give us a lesson in intolerance.

Fark your fairy tales and the ignorant destruction they bring. Truth condemning lies is not intolerance.

If you act in the very manner you claim to hate in believers how are you any better? Because you think you right? Gee where have we heard that before? That and $5 will be you a cup of coffee these days.


You guys keep shiatting on each other, you're both just going to stink.
 
2013-04-29 01:58:47 PM  

Parthenogenetic: [www.maniacworld.com image 371x275]

11. Eat a praying mantis for Jesus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-IN_lsMgmM


Did you see the comment under that video?

O_o
 
2013-04-29 02:01:49 PM  

chewielouie: MayoSlather: And this is why atheists should go full douche on religion. These people need to be openly mocked and ridiculed of for their wild imaginations just like alien abduction and Sasquatch believers.

Yeah, they openly mocked and ridiculed Noah too.


Oh, so genocide is okay when GOD does it, I get it.
 
2013-04-29 02:01:52 PM  
TESTIFY!

media.cmgdigital.com
 
2013-04-29 02:02:56 PM  
The amusing thing here is the way that Atheists are still acknowledging God and giving Him glory -- albeit in bloody-minded defiance.
 
2013-04-29 02:05:19 PM  
Christianity should be more about relationships than requirements. Less judgement more compassion.

If you beat someone over the head with the bible or point your finger in their chest and tell them what's wrong with them why would they ever want to spend more time in your presence or set foot anywhere near a church?

If you make it a list of do's and dont's no one will ever be able to measure up. Nobody can earn it.
I think I've broken pretty much every one of the 10 commandments (except 6. I haven't killed anyone yet.)

But if you demonstrate humility, kindness, compassion, and love to people who have wronged you then you are exhibiting the love of Christ. I don't care what anyone says, this is not the default tendency of people. It may in fact cause them to ask a questions and spark a relationship and honest conversation.
 
2013-04-29 02:05:49 PM  
Be a Calvinist?
 
2013-04-29 02:14:36 PM  

chewielouie: MayoSlather: And this is why atheists should go full douche on religion. These people need to be openly mocked and ridiculed of for their wild imaginations just like alien abduction and Sasquatch believers.

Yeah, they openly mocked and ridiculed Noah too.


In fairness, his bigass boat was blocking their driveway.

/what's a cubit?
 
2013-04-29 02:20:20 PM  

Cythraul: What the fark did I just read?

i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-29 02:22:58 PM  
Resident Muslim:
If man is an animal, what makes people hate cheaters in both sexes?

I have never hated them - just felt heart broken when I was the cheated on - generally I have luved the cheaters, to them we are the cherry on top :P
 
2013-04-29 02:28:06 PM  

letrole: The amusing thing here is the way that Atheists are still acknowledging God and giving Him glory -- albeit in bloody-minded defiance.


What kind of mental hoops do you have to jump through to come to that conclusion?  If I say Bigfoot doesn't exist, that proves Bigfoot exists?
 
2013-04-29 02:36:19 PM  

Carn: letrole: The amusing thing here is the way that Atheists are still acknowledging God and giving Him glory -- albeit in bloody-minded defiance.

What kind of mental hoops do you have to jump through to come to that conclusion?  If I say Bigfoot doesn't exist, that proves Bigfoot exists?


His name is bastardized french for "The Troll". You really don't want to engage him.
 
2013-04-29 02:38:51 PM  

MayoSlather: There are lots of Christian types in this thread that are attempting to pull the "I'm a rational christian, not like this crazy guy." thing. And to that I say no, no you're not. You are just as batshiat.


Well MY invisible sky friend assures me that what WE have is special. Not like THOSE morans and their FAKE invisible sky friend(s).

So there!
 
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